[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small joy of the day: Txikipedia

2022-06-24 Thread Neurodivergent Netizen
> How could we say we velcome young editors and require that they conceal that > they are young? We manage to do exactly that, even though we, too, can guess with some imperfect accuracy, that certain people are in fact children. > I just share an idea for anybody to possibly take it or

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small joy of the day: Txikipedia

2022-06-24 Thread Mathias Damour
Yes, Vikidia editors are allowed (not required) to tell their age on their user page. In the long run (or not so long), other users would roughly guess it anyway. We get to know each other online and I guess it helps the communication to know the age group to which belong the people you're talking

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small joy of the day: Txikipedia

2022-06-24 Thread Neurodivergent Netizen
> When I had a look to the most viewed articles (not exactly recently) I had > the impression that it actually reach one of its goal that is to be a > resource for non native english speaker (that moreover don't have a well > developped Wikipedia in their native language, such as indians of a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small joy of the day: Txikipedia

2022-06-24 Thread Mathias Damour
Hi,   I think that SEWP was created like it is, partly by fear of creating a project openly directed to children, and I'm afraid it precisely make it not so compelling for them. How is Simple English Wikipedia not compelling for kids? Define “not compelling.” Well, I didn't closely

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small joy of the day: Txikipedia

2022-06-24 Thread Neurodivergent Netizen
> I think that SEWP was created like it is, partly by fear of creating a > project openly directed to children, and I'm afraid it precisely make it not > so compelling for them. How is Simple English Wikipedia not compelling for kids? Define “not compelling.” > Actually, Vikidia in english

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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small joy of the day: Txikipedia

2022-06-24 Thread Peter Southwood
I took a look at Vikidia, thought I could do something for them, signed up with an account, read what I could find of the guidance, and created an article on Underwater diving, following the rules as I understood them, using properly attributed CC-by-sa content from Simple English Wikipedia as

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small joy of the day: Txikipedia

2022-06-24 Thread Mathias Damour
You're right, there is a "long tail" of short articles on Wikikids especially, which nevertheless has about 7000 articles above 2000 bytes, whereas Grundschulwiki has 150 (and Vikidia in French has about 13,000 articles above 2000 bytes) The Pareto principle apply there again! Articles are far

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small joy of the day: Txikipedia

2022-06-24 Thread Neurodivergent Netizen
Is that one sentence at least backed up by a source that confirms the information? Were the stubs possibly created by a bot instead of human? (Hey, it’s happened before!) If the answers to the questions I asked were “No” and “Yes,” then it reflects even worse on the quality of articles written

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small joy of the day: Txikipedia

2022-06-24 Thread Ziko van Dijk
As in Wikipedia language versions, article numbers don't count. Wikikids has many "articles" that consist only of one or two sentences. That makes it easy to reach tenthousands of "articles". :-) https://wikikids.nl/Seks_museum Kind regards Ziko Am Fr., 24. Juni 2022 um 11:42 Uhr schrieb Mathias

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small joy of the day: Txikipedia

2022-06-24 Thread Mathias Damour
Hi,   You may compare : - Grundschulwiki in german, launched in december 2005 with institutionnal support and enought visibility I guess, restricted to articles produced by the schools : 1,134 articles today : https://grundschulwiki.zum.de/wiki/Hauptseite - Wikikids.nl in Dutch, launched by

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small joy of the day: Txikipedia

2022-06-24 Thread Neurodivergent Netizen
> "What about children feeling patronized" compared to "what about pedophiles > grooming there or promoting their views" > "Santa Claus" as a controversial article rather than masturbation and so on... Truthfully, I’m still concerned about child molesters and other kinds of child abusers

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small joy of the day: Txikipedia

2022-06-24 Thread Neurodivergent Netizen
> There is no major obstacle other than money and contributors to creating a > simple version encyclopaedia in any other language in a non WMF environment. If Vikikids can find a way to find contributors and money to continue, then so can other non-WMF wikis. In fact, Miraheze provides an

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small joy of the day: Txikipedia

2022-06-24 Thread Mathias Damour
Hi,   I'm glad the objections to such a project became somewhat softer with the years !   "What about children feeling patronized" compared to "what about pedophiles grooming there or promoting their views" "Santa Claus" as a controversial article rather than masturbation and so on...  

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small joy of the day: Txikipedia

2022-06-24 Thread Adam Sobieski
Hello. On these topics, a hyperlink: http://tobib.spline.de/xi/posts/2017-06-26-simple-language/ . An excerpt is that Web pages could include metadata () which indicate alternate versions of content for simple variants of languages. With some means of extending BCP-47 language identifiers to

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small joy of the day: Txikipedia

2022-06-24 Thread Peter Southwood
Yes, I find it more difficult to write for Simple English, because it (Simple English) is not my first language and I do not think in it, and the words I would normally use for the topics I prefer are not invented there and have to be worked around, so it is translation a lot of the time. There is

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Small joy of the day: Txikipedia

2022-06-24 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Just a reminder that Simple English Wikipedia exists, but there are no Simple _ Wikipedia versions and there won't be. So that may be a solution for English (it is not, as writing in Simple Wikipedia is way more complex than doing at the regular one, because you must change the