Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up

2017-08-25 Thread Peter Southwood
> > Cheers, > > Peter > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] > > On Behalf Of Sam Wilson > > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 10:26 AM > > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up

2017-08-25 Thread Andreas Kolbe
thing we ask in return for our work > > is a little recognition and respect, and to know that we do a thing > > intrinsically worth doing. Again, I realise I do not necessarily speak > > for everyone, but suspect that I speak for many. > > Cheers, > > Peter > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up

2017-08-25 Thread Ziko van Dijk
] On > Behalf Of Sam Wilson > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 11:38 AM > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up > > Peter, > > Fair enough, I agree that the idea that Wikimedia would have been a > success if it'd be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up

2017-08-25 Thread Peter Southwood
: Thursday, August 24, 2017 11:38 AM To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up Peter, Fair enough, I agree that the idea that Wikimedia would have been a success if it'd be made commercial is crazy. "Has it crossed my mind how much we c

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up

2017-08-25 Thread Samuel Patton
know that we do a thing > > intrinsically worth doing. Again, I realise I do not necessarily speak > > for everyone, but suspect that I speak for many. > > Cheers, > > Peter > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up

2017-08-24 Thread Sam Wilson
k > for everyone, but suspect that I speak for many. > Cheers, > Peter > > -Original Message- > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On > Behalf Of Sam Wilson > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 10:26 AM > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikim

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up

2017-08-24 Thread Peter Southwood
-Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Sam Wilson Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 10:26 AM To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up "Offensive" seems a bit over the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up

2017-08-24 Thread Peter Southwood
Fernandez Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 4:54 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up Is anyone actually confusing the banner with article content, or are they just assuming others will do so? ___ Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up

2017-08-24 Thread Sam Wilson
"Offensive" seems a bit over the top! Who's it offending? Seems pretty okay to me, personally. :-) Anyway, the only thing I notice with it is that it starts with "We will..." and then says "When I made..." etc. Shouldn't these pronouns agree? —Sam. On Thu, 24 Aug 2017, at 04:07 PM, Peter

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up

2017-08-24 Thread Peter Southwood
The old style is excessively large and in your face. The new style is almost, but not quite as bad. The content remains offensive and misleading Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Seddon Sent:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up

2017-08-23 Thread MZMcBride
Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: >Personally, I really dislike banners that try to pretend to be content. >This one makes it look like the page is an article titled "To all our >readers in the U.S." rather than a page with a banner on it. This type of design is similar to, if not precisely, "native

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up

2017-08-23 Thread Risker
I think they continue to display the absolutely most irritating behaviour of the old banners, which is the several second delay between the screen that shows the content, and the overlaid banner that in the "old" baner covers the content someone has already started reading and in the "new" banner

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up

2017-08-23 Thread Robert Fernandez
Is anyone actually confusing the banner with article content, or are they just assuming others will do so? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up

2017-08-23 Thread Pax Ahimsa Gethen
On 8/23/17 2:33 PM, Michael Peel wrote: On 23 Aug 2017, at 13:36, Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi all, On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 11:51:02 -0400 "Brad Jorsch (Anomie)" > wrote: On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Joseph Seddon

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up

2017-08-23 Thread Michael Maggs
When viewed on my iPhone the 'New Native Feel' version has *five* full screens of text headed 'To all our readers in the US'. To be honest, unless I had known about this in advance I would have thought I'd been directed to the wrong page. I'd never bother to scroll down that far to get to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up

2017-08-23 Thread Michael Peel
> On 23 Aug 2017, at 13:36, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > Hi all, > > On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 11:51:02 -0400 > "Brad Jorsch (Anomie)" > > wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Joseph Seddon >>

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up

2017-08-23 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all, On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 11:51:02 -0400 "Brad Jorsch (Anomie)" wrote: > On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Joseph Seddon > wrote: > > > New Native feel: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein?banner=B1718_ > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up

2017-08-23 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Lodewijk wrote: > I can see that confusing people is not what we should be aiming for :) > Would it help sooth your mind when there is a clear distinction between > content and banner, even if the look and feel is the same? (I can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up

2017-08-23 Thread Lodewijk
Hey Brad, I can see that confusing people is not what we should be aiming for :) Would it help sooth your mind when there is a clear distinction between content and banner, even if the look and feel is the same? (I can imagine that you could accomplish this by doing the banner at full site width,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up

2017-08-23 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Joseph Seddon wrote: > New Native feel: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein?banner=B1718_ > 0823_en6C_dsk_p1_lg_dsn_native=1=US=QA > Personally, I really dislike banners that try to pretend to be content. This one makes it