Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-26 Thread Michel Vuijlsteke
On 26 July 2012 02:57, Kim Bruning wrote: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 09:48:50PM +0200, Svip wrote: > > Oh and here is a fun fact I have discovered over the years; reading > > large texts of a serif typeface is a lot easier than a sans-serif > > typeface. > > > See, I'm *not* crazy to think that!

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-26 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 07/25/12 12:48 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: So there were how many years of faffing about before they hired *one guy* for this project? This is an organisation with a $20m annual budget, now acquiring umpteen paid chapter officials. The "paid chapter officials" are employees of the chapters them

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-26 Thread Cristian Consonni
2012/7/24 Tomasz Ganicz : > 2012/7/24 Cristian Consonni : >> 2012/7/24 Amir E. Aharoni : >>> Hi, >>> >>> The Olympic games are beginning soon. Apparently, ticket holders >>> cannot use photo equipment longer than 30cm and cannot use the photos >>> and videos for commercial purposes without accredit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-26 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > On 07/25/12 12:48 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > >> >> So there were how many years of faffing about before they hired *one guy* >> for this project? This is an organisation with a $20m annual budget, now >> acquiring umpteen paid chapter offici

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-26 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Jul 26, 2012, at 5:33 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > >> On 07/25/12 12:48 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: >> >>> >>> So there were how many years of faffing about before they hired *one guy* >>> for this project? This is an organisation with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-26 Thread wiki-list
kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> Sources for the restrictions: > >>> * http://www.tickets.london2012.com/purchaseterms.html > >>> * PDF: http://j.mp/london2012prohibited > > I really can't figure out the difference between your example about > personality rights and my previous, so I don't se

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-26 Thread Anthony
It's time to black out coverage of the olympics. This would be a blackout that could actually make a difference. On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Lodewijk wrote: > Would it make sense to start a more thorough long term lobby on this issue? > Considering that this will be a returning issue every

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board appointments July 2012

2012-07-26 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Bence Damokos wrote: > Hi Beria, > > I am sure Bishakha will give a more thorough answer if I am mistaken, but > from what I heard from Board members when I asked the same question: the > new board members fully participated in the meeting on the 11 July, but for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-26 Thread Peter Coombe
Unfortunately people will still be bombarded with coverage of it from everywhere else, so probably a futile gesture. We may not be able to get photos of the glamorous sporting events to illustrate our articles, but there are plenty of associated events that ought to be documented which the IOC can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-26 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi, On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Peter Coombe wrote: > > We may not be able to get photos of the glamorous sporting events to > illustrate our articles, but there are plenty of associated events > that ought to be documented which the IOC can't prevent you from > photographing and freely lice

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-26 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 07/26/12 2:23 AM, wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: Sources for the restrictions: * http://www.tickets.london2012.com/purchaseterms.html * PDF: http://j.mp/london2012prohibited I really can't figure out the difference between your example about personality rig

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-26 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > Copyrights wouldn't apply because you own the copyrights in the pictures you > take. Maybe. You own the copyright fully if you are the sole contributor of the creative input which went into the picture. If someone else also contributed, th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-26 Thread FT2
Naive and over reactive. Do that all the time and it's pointless (loses value). That was the consensus at the time of SOPA and I don't see anything that's changed since. Blackouts are the rarest of rare protests, certainly not for matters that don't threaten us. At worst inability to freely photo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-26 Thread FT2
Two quick notes - Photography from public land is permissible, though security/police may try to object. Cannot be stopped, equipment seized, or photos deleted unless "reasona

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Event coordinators: how to create many accounts from 1 IP address

2012-07-26 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
Thanks to everyone who helped work on this documentation. I really appreciate it. Please distribute https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mass_account_creation and, within it, link to the relevant "becoming an account creator" pages on particular wikis. Thanks. -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Com

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Event coordinators: how to create many accounts from 1 IP address

2012-07-26 Thread Asaf Bartov
Thanks! http://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Best_practices_in_organizing_a_Wikipedia_workshop&action=historysubmit&diff=38805&oldid=24788 A. On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: > Thanks to everyone who helped work on this documentation. I really > apprec

[Wikimedia-l] FW: [Wikimediauk-l] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

2012-07-26 Thread joseph seddon
I believe this recent statement from the board of WMUK is of interest to this list. Seddon > From: michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk > Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:02:36 -0700 > To: wikimediau...@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, > Chai

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-26 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Jul 26, 2012, at 4:23 AM, wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: > kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: > Sources for the restrictions: > * http://www.tickets.london2012.com/purchaseterms.html > * PDF: http://j.mp/london2012prohibited >> >> I really can't figure out the difference betwee

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-26 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Jul 26, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Anthony wrote: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote: >> Copyrights wouldn't apply because you own the copyrights in the pictures you >> take. > > Maybe. You own the copyright fully if you are the sole contributor of > the creative input which

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-26 Thread Birgitte_sb
The first version sent too soon and was almost unreadable, sorry if you struggled through it. Here it is again with copy-editing. On Jul 26, 2012, at 9:06 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: > > > > > On Jul 26, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Anthony wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Ray Sain

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-26 Thread Birgitte_sb
And here is the correct second link: http://williampatry.blogspot.com/2008/03/photographs-are-not-derivative-works.html On Jul 26, 2012, at 9:13 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: > The first version sent too soon and was almost unreadable, sorry if you > struggled through it. Here it is again

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-26 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:06 PM, wrote: > On Jul 26, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Anthony wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote: >>> Copyrights wouldn't apply because you own the copyrights in the pictures you >>> take. >> >> Maybe. You own the copyright fully if you are the s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-26 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 07/26/12 4:41 AM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jul 26, 2012, at 5:33 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: On 07/25/12 12:48 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: So there were how many years of faffing about before they hired *one guy* for this project? Thi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-26 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 07/26/12 9:31 AM, Peter Coombe wrote: Unfortunately people will still be bombarded with coverage of it from everywhere else, so probably a futile gesture. We may not be able to get photos of the glamorous sporting events to illustrate our articles, but there are plenty of associated events th

[Wikimedia-l] Engineering community contacts for the next few weeks

2012-07-26 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
(Sorry for spamming and cross-posting; figured that some people would find this helpful to pass along.) Starting sometime Friday (today), I am vacationing and will be offline till August 16th. In my absence, here's whom to contact about: * Developer Access queue[1] for Git, Gerrit, and Wikimedia

[Wikimedia-l] Fund-raising goal questions

2012-07-26 Thread MZMcBride
Hi. How is the fund-raising goal determined each year? Is there a fund-raising goal set for the upcoming fund-raiser (the one beginning in November 2012)? Is there a guideline or policy regarding what happens once the fund-raising goal is met? MZMcBride __

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-26 Thread Erik Moeller
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 4:41 AM, wrote: > You must live in a very simplistic world, but I am afraid it does resemble > reality very well. Here are how some various types of things and people are > funded. Tool server=chapter. Developers= Mostly WMF but some chapter. > Marketing professionals=