Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board skill grid 2014

[Pine W]

I find the terminology and scoring here to be pretty obscure. Can someone
explain in detail what the definitions of each criterion are and what the
different scores mean applied to each criterion? For example, what does
"Geographic diversity for the board as a whole" mean as a skill?

Thanks,
Pine


On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Alice Wiegand 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> the WMF Board took another round of the exercise to create a Board skills
> grid to get more clarity about what the current needs on the Board are and
> how well they are covered. The Board will discuss the result and the
> implications for the board composition at the Board meeting before
> Wikimania in London.
>
> We are interested in your thoughts and input for this discussion. Please
> take a look at
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Board_Governance_Committee/Board_skills_grid_2014
> and share your ideas on the talk page.
>
> Regards,
> Alice.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board skill grid 2014

[Fæ]

On 09/07/2014, Pine W  wrote:
> I find the terminology and scoring here to be pretty obscure. Can someone
> explain in detail what the definitions of each criterion are and what the
> different scores mean applied to each criterion? For example, what does
> "Geographic diversity for the board as a whole" mean as a skill?

+1

Can it be in plain English please, rather than weird jargon?

Examples include:

* "Gender diversity for the board as a whole" - this might mean
counting how many women are on the board (so why not say that?), or
maybe it includes other dimensions, like a count of LGBT identifying
people. The "board as a whole" might mean that the count is of people
who are not actually board members, it is very unclear.

* "Geographic diversity for the board as a whole" - this might mean
counting the number of countries where board members reside, or how
many different countries they have resided in, or how much they
travel, or several other things. It may or may not be a part of
"Ethnic / multi-lingual diversity for the board as a whole" which is
counted as a second thingy.

* "Visionary creative drive" - this appears to be classic management
speak rather than English. I hope that the board has very few
"visionaries", it sounds like having several might become disruptive.
Boards benefit from having several people who are not "creative" (that
can be a good thing when you want basic stuff actually done, like
giving some oversight for the annual accounts).

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board skill grid 2014

[Pine W]

I largely agree, and I also think this chart shows that the Board badly
needs people with management expertise.

Pine


On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Fæ  wrote:

> On 09/07/2014, Pine W  wrote:
> > I find the terminology and scoring here to be pretty obscure. Can someone
> > explain in detail what the definitions of each criterion are and what the
> > different scores mean applied to each criterion? For example, what does
> > "Geographic diversity for the board as a whole" mean as a skill?
>
> +1
>
> Can it be in plain English please, rather than weird jargon?
>
> Examples include:
>
> * "Gender diversity for the board as a whole" - this might mean
> counting how many women are on the board (so why not say that?), or
> maybe it includes other dimensions, like a count of LGBT identifying
> people. The "board as a whole" might mean that the count is of people
> who are not actually board members, it is very unclear.
>
> * "Geographic diversity for the board as a whole" - this might mean
> counting the number of countries where board members reside, or how
> many different countries they have resided in, or how much they
> travel, or several other things. It may or may not be a part of
> "Ethnic / multi-lingual diversity for the board as a whole" which is
> counted as a second thingy.
>
> * "Visionary creative drive" - this appears to be classic management
> speak rather than English. I hope that the board has very few
> "visionaries", it sounds like having several might become disruptive.
> Boards benefit from having several people who are not "creative" (that
> can be a good thing when you want basic stuff actually done, like
> giving some oversight for the annual accounts).
>
> Fae
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board skill grid 2014

[Pierre-Selim]

Thank you Alice for sharing this with the community.


2014-07-09 9:56 GMT+02:00 Pine W :

> I largely agree, and I also think this chart shows that the Board badly
> needs people with management expertise.
>
> Pine
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Fæ  wrote:
>
> > On 09/07/2014, Pine W  wrote:
> > > I find the terminology and scoring here to be pretty obscure. Can
> someone
> > > explain in detail what the definitions of each criterion are and what
> the
> > > different scores mean applied to each criterion? For example, what does
> > > "Geographic diversity for the board as a whole" mean as a skill?
> >
> > +1
> >
> > Can it be in plain English please, rather than weird jargon?
> >
> > Examples include:
> >
> > * "Gender diversity for the board as a whole" - this might mean
> > counting how many women are on the board (so why not say that?), or
> > maybe it includes other dimensions, like a count of LGBT identifying
> > people. The "board as a whole" might mean that the count is of people
> > who are not actually board members, it is very unclear.
> >
> > * "Geographic diversity for the board as a whole" - this might mean
> > counting the number of countries where board members reside, or how
> > many different countries they have resided in, or how much they
> > travel, or several other things. It may or may not be a part of
> > "Ethnic / multi-lingual diversity for the board as a whole" which is
> > counted as a second thingy.
> >
> > * "Visionary creative drive" - this appears to be classic management
> > speak rather than English. I hope that the board has very few
> > "visionaries", it sounds like having several might become disruptive.
> > Boards benefit from having several people who are not "creative" (that
> > can be a good thing when you want basic stuff actually done, like
> > giving some oversight for the annual accounts).
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board skill grid 2014

[Pine W]

Yes thank you for sharing, and I apologize if I sound short-tempered, but
this is the kind of report I am used to reading from consultants and I lost
patience with them a long time ago. (:

Pine


On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Pierre-Selim 
wrote:

> Thank you Alice for sharing this with the community.
>
>
> 2014-07-09 9:56 GMT+02:00 Pine W :
>
> > I largely agree, and I also think this chart shows that the Board badly
> > needs people with management expertise.
> >
> > Pine
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Fæ  wrote:
> >
> > > On 09/07/2014, Pine W  wrote:
> > > > I find the terminology and scoring here to be pretty obscure. Can
> > someone
> > > > explain in detail what the definitions of each criterion are and what
> > the
> > > > different scores mean applied to each criterion? For example, what
> does
> > > > "Geographic diversity for the board as a whole" mean as a skill?
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Can it be in plain English please, rather than weird jargon?
> > >
> > > Examples include:
> > >
> > > * "Gender diversity for the board as a whole" - this might mean
> > > counting how many women are on the board (so why not say that?), or
> > > maybe it includes other dimensions, like a count of LGBT identifying
> > > people. The "board as a whole" might mean that the count is of people
> > > who are not actually board members, it is very unclear.
> > >
> > > * "Geographic diversity for the board as a whole" - this might mean
> > > counting the number of countries where board members reside, or how
> > > many different countries they have resided in, or how much they
> > > travel, or several other things. It may or may not be a part of
> > > "Ethnic / multi-lingual diversity for the board as a whole" which is
> > > counted as a second thingy.
> > >
> > > * "Visionary creative drive" - this appears to be classic management
> > > speak rather than English. I hope that the board has very few
> > > "visionaries", it sounds like having several might become disruptive.
> > > Boards benefit from having several people who are not "creative" (that
> > > can be a good thing when you want basic stuff actually done, like
> > > giving some oversight for the annual accounts).
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Wikimedia Hackathon(s) 2014-2015

[Quim Gil]

So far there are no candidates to organize the next Wikimedia Hackathon in
Europe. If any chapter, thorg, or group of volunteers is thinking about
applying, please let us know. We want to announce the new host at Wikimania.

Very important: the budget for the Wikimedia Hackathon 2015 will be
discussed and eventually approved as an independent Project and Event Fund.
This means that organizers will be able to define the budget and manage it
without depending on general chapter funds and FDC rounds. This will avoid
any risk of budget cuts caused by factors alien to the hackathon
organization, a problem we have seen in previous editions. Background:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Framework_for_the_Creation_and_Initial_Operation_of_the_FDC#General_versus_project_funding

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG

On Friday, May 30, 2014, Quim Gil  wrote:

> (CCing wikimedia-l as well, please send any replies to wikitech-l only)
>
> The Wikimedia technical community wants to have another hackathon next
> year in Europe. Who will organize it?
>
> Interested parties, check https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hackathons
>
> We would like to confirm a host by Wikimania, latest.
>
> The same call goes for India and other locations with a good concentration
> of Wikimedia contributors and software developers. Come on, step in. We
> want to increase our geographical diversity of technical contributors.
>
>
>
>
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> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
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[Wikimedia-l] Subject for Wikimedia Hackathon(s) 2014-2015: CoSyne

[Romaine Wiki]

As a subject of one/more hackathons I would like to recommend CoSyne [1].
CoSyne is translation and multilingual synchronisation tool. The project
was set up by Wikimedia Netherlands together with several universities and
other partners, including the EU. The tool makes it possible to translate
much more easier from one Wikipedia (etc) to another with much better
quality translations than existing translating tools. It does not matter if
an article is already written, it is possible with this tool to expand
existing articles and to update articles with a new section when on one
Wikipedia this was added. It makes it possible to exchange information in
more languages and helps users to keep the articles up-to-date.

I have tested the Bèta version of this tool and these tests were very
successful.

[1] https://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/CoSyne

Romaine


2014-07-09 13:55 GMT+02:00 Quim Gil :

> So far there are no candidates to organize the next Wikimedia Hackathon in
> Europe. If any chapter, thorg, or group of volunteers is thinking about
> applying, please let us know. We want to announce the new host at
> Wikimania.
>
> Very important: the budget for the Wikimedia Hackathon 2015 will be
> discussed and eventually approved as an independent Project and Event Fund.
> This means that organizers will be able to define the budget and manage it
> without depending on general chapter funds and FDC rounds. This will avoid
> any risk of budget cuts caused by factors alien to the hackathon
> organization, a problem we have seen in previous editions. Background:
>
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Framework_for_the_Creation_and_Initial_Operation_of_the_FDC#General_versus_project_funding
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG
>
> On Friday, May 30, 2014, Quim Gil  wrote:
>
> > (CCing wikimedia-l as well, please send any replies to wikitech-l only)
> >
> > The Wikimedia technical community wants to have another hackathon next
> > year in Europe. Who will organize it?
> >
> > Interested parties, check https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hackathons
> >
> > We would like to confirm a host by Wikimania, latest.
> >
> > The same call goes for India and other locations with a good
> concentration
> > of Wikimedia contributors and software developers. Come on, step in. We
> > want to increase our geographical diversity of technical contributors.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation
> > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
> >
>
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[Wikimedia-l] [Reminder] Language Engineering IRC Office Hour on July 9, 2014 (Wednesday) at 1700 UTC

[Runa Bhattacharjee]

Hello,

A quick reminder that the Language Engineering office hour is happening in
a few hours (1700 UTC) on #wikimedia-office. Please see below for the
original announcement, including local time and agenda.

Thanks
Runa


Monthly IRC Office Hour:
==
# Date: July 09, 2014 (Wednesday)

# Time: 1700 UTC/1000PDT (Check local time:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140709T1700)

# IRC channel: #wikimedia-office

# Agenda:
1. Content Translation project updates
2. Q & A (Questions can be sent to me ahead of the event)

-- Forwarded message --
From: Runa Bhattacharjee 
Date: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:41 PM
Subject: Language Engineering IRC Office Hour on July 9, 2014 (Wednesday)
at 1700 UTC
To: MediaWiki internationalisation ,
Wikimedia Mailing List , Wikimedia
developers ,
wikitech-ambassad...@lists.wikimedia.org


[x-posted]

Hello,

The Wikimedia Language Engineering team will be hosting the next
monthly IRC office hour on Wednesday, July 09 2014 at 1700 UTC on
#wikimedia-office.

In this office hour we will be discussing about our recent activities
around the Content Translation project[1] and taking questions.

Please see below for event details and local time. See you at the office
hour.

Thanks
Runa

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Content_translation

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# Time: 1700 UTC/1000PDT (Check local time:
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# IRC channel: #wikimedia-office

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Human Resources Office Hour with Gayle

[Patrick Earley]

Thanks for forwarding to wikitech-l, Pine.  I agree that we should get
notices out sooner - two weeks would be a good number.  Hope you can make
it to this one,


On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Pine W  wrote:

> Hi Patrick,
>
> Can I request that there be a policy that from now on all WMF office hours
> will be announced at least two weeks in advance? Many of us have schedules
> that we need to shuffle to attend meetings especially on short notice.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pine
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Pine W  wrote:
>
> > Forwarding to Wikitech-l. This HR office hour will follow the Language
> > Engineering office hour. Because the new ED has a tech background there
> > might be greater than usual interest in this WMF issue from those on the
> > tech list, and those with lots of free time tomorrow can be present for
> > both meetings. (:
> >
> > Pine
> >
> >
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: Patrick Earley 
> > Date: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 8:41 AM
> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Human Resources Office Hour with Gayle
> > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> >
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Tomorrow, the Foundation's Chief Talent and Culture Officer, Gayle Karen
> > Young,  will be
> answering
> > questions in an IRC Office hour.  The topic will be "Experiencing
> > Transition: an org perspective."  Please join us for the discussion!
> >
> > Where: IRC, on the #wikimedia-office channel
> > 
> >
> > When: July 9th, 18:00-19:00 UTC (check local time here
> > <
> >
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Experiencing+Transition%3A+an+org+perspective&iso=20140709T11&p1=224&ah=1
> > >
> > )
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Subject for Wikimedia Hackathon(s) 2014-2015: CoSyne

[Antoine Musso]

Le 09/07/2014 14:33, Romaine Wiki a écrit :
> As a subject of one/more hackathons I would like to recommend CoSyne [1].
> CoSyne is translation and multilingual synchronisation tool. The project
> was set up by Wikimedia Netherlands together with several universities and
> other partners, including the EU. The tool makes it possible to translate
> much more easier from one Wikipedia (etc) to another with much better
> quality translations than existing translating tools. It does not matter if
> an article is already written, it is possible with this tool to expand
> existing articles and to update articles with a new section when on one
> Wikipedia this was added. It makes it possible to exchange information in
> more languages and helps users to keep the articles up-to-date.
> 
> I have tested the Bèta version of this tool and these tests were very
> successful.
> 
> [1] https://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/CoSyne
> 
> Romaine

Hello,

Seems it is very similiar to the content translation Wikimedia i18n team
is working on:

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Content_translation

Demo video:
 
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:CX_Section_Alignment_Preview_and_Basic_Editing.webm


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Subject for Wikimedia Hackathon(s) 2014-2015: CoSyne

[Runa Bhattacharjee]

On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Antoine Musso  wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> Seems it is very similiar to the content translation Wikimedia i18n team
> is working on:
>
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Content_translation
>
> Demo video:
>
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:CX_Section_Alignment_Preview_and_Basic_Editing.webm
>
>
Thanks for bringing this up. We are also running testing sessions and
people can sign up through this form[1].

regards
Runa

[1]
https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/forms/d/1yCvPS65eWk9S8uXkksAbDbLsbZQd0ISQKBDFfJnSSo0/viewform

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[Wikimedia-l] Reminder - Human Resources Office Hour with Gayle

[Patrick Earley]

Just a reminder:

Shortly, the Foundation's Chief Talent and Culture Officer, Gayle Karen
Young,  will be answering
questions in an IRC Office hour.  The topic will be "Experiencing
Transition: an org perspective."  Please join us for the discussion!

Where: IRC, on the #wikimedia-office channel


When: July 9th, 18:00-19:00 UTC (check local time here

)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Reminder] Language Engineering IRC Office Hour on July 9, 2014 (Wednesday) at 1700 UTC

[Runa Bhattacharjee]

On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Runa Bhattacharjee <
rbhattachar...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> A quick reminder that the Language Engineering office hour is happening in
> a few hours (1700 UTC) on #wikimedia-office.
>
> For those who missed, the logs are here:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2014-07-09

Thanks
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Subject for Wikimedia Hackathon(s) 2014-2015: CoSyne

[Romaine Wiki]

I doubt if these tools are similar. But I do think they can benefit from
each other.

Romaine


2014-07-09 16:03 GMT+02:00 Antoine Musso :

> Le 09/07/2014 14:33, Romaine Wiki a écrit :
> > As a subject of one/more hackathons I would like to recommend CoSyne [1].
> > CoSyne is translation and multilingual synchronisation tool. The project
> > was set up by Wikimedia Netherlands together with several universities
> and
> > other partners, including the EU. The tool makes it possible to translate
> > much more easier from one Wikipedia (etc) to another with much better
> > quality translations than existing translating tools. It does not matter
> if
> > an article is already written, it is possible with this tool to expand
> > existing articles and to update articles with a new section when on one
> > Wikipedia this was added. It makes it possible to exchange information in
> > more languages and helps users to keep the articles up-to-date.
> >
> > I have tested the Bèta version of this tool and these tests were very
> > successful.
> >
> > [1] https://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/CoSyne
> >
> > Romaine
>
> Hello,
>
> Seems it is very similiar to the content translation Wikimedia i18n team
> is working on:
>
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Content_translation
>
> Demo video:
>
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:CX_Section_Alignment_Preview_and_Basic_Editing.webm
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2014-15 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

[Alex Wang]

Dear Pine,

Thank you for your concern about the Grant Advisory Committee (GAC). You
are correct that there is a consistently low level of participation by GAC
members and we are seeking to address this issue through a revamp of the
process and available resources.

The Project and Event Grants (PEG) program accepts proposals on a rolling
basis and we strive to provide timely responses to all requests. All GAC
members are given notice and at least 2 weeks to comment on proposals.
Often times, we work with requesters on improving their proposal to address
GAC member concerns and accept it before the GAC goes back to change their
initial assessments. Please note that the GAC is an advisory committee, not
a decision-making body, and on rare occasions WMF staff's duty of care may
lead them to disagree with their recommendations.

We also welcome all community members to comment on PEG requests. This is a
good opportunity to remind everyone reading this to not hesitate to comment
on any open proposal.  Open proposals can always be seen here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/Index/Requests#Open_submissions

Best,

Alex


On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Pine W  wrote:

> Hi Tilman,
>
> 1. Would WMF please document in the FAQ that Global Education, excluding
> the US/CAN program, is funded and managed through Grantmaking, and the
> US/CAN Education Program is run through the independent Wiki Education
> Foundation?
>
> 2. Would someone please produce a redline version of the AP that compares
> the final AP to the version that was sent to the FDC?
>
> 3. I suggest that in the future that the Board be given at least one month
> between their meeting for reviewing the AP and the proposed effective date
> of the AP. Otherwise, if the Board's meeting date is within a few days of
> the AP effective date, the Board may feel pressure to move quickly to
> approve the AP, and if the Board doesn't pass the AP then unless I am
> mistaken the Foundation has no spending or fundraising authority as of the
> start of the next fiscal year.
>
> 4. The FAQ says that P&E grants are "reviewed by the 28-member Grant
> Advisory Committee  or GAC)".
> However,
> as far as I can tell, GAC is functioning at a very low level. This grant
> [1] for about US$7000 received only one vote among all 28 GAC members, and
> it was an oppose vote, yet WMF approved the grant. This grant [2] for about
> US$9000 had no support or oppose votes from GAC members, yet WMF approved
> the grant. This grant [3] for about US$30,000 received one oppose, one
> abstention, and one "no comment" among all 28 grant members, yet WMF
> approved the grant. Something seems wrong here. I have heard that GAC is
> being revamped but in the meantime I am concerned about such large grants
> being approved with so little community review. My worst-case scenario is
> that WMF approves something with expensive and damaging consequences like
> IEP or AFT5 that might have been refused or might have been better designed
> if it had been subjected to meaningful community scrutiny. Because the
> Annual Plan seems to assume that GAC is working well, I feel that this is
> an issue that needs urgent attention.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pine
>
>
> [1]
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:PEG/Metro/Institutional_Growth_and_Community_Fellow
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:PEG/WM_ZA/WLM-ZA-2014
> [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/WM_AM/Wiki_Camp
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Tilman Bayer  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > the Wikimedia Foundation's 2014-15 Annual Plan has just been published at
> >
> >
> >
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:2014-15_Wikimedia_Foundation_Plan.pdf
> >
> > accompanied by a Q&A:
> >
> >
> >
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/2014-2015_Annual_Plan_Questions_and_Answers
> >
> > The plan was approved by the Board of Trustees on June 29, 2014.
> >
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France report: Round table in Brussels; Video at Sèvres; 70th anniversary
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Germany report: Exhibition photography
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Mexico report: Edit-a-thon of Museo Soumaya; simulthaneous edit-a-thon in
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Sweden report: Wiki Loves Monuments is being prepared for Sweden
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[Wikimedia-l] Offwiki

[Wil Sinclair]

Hi all, I've started a new wiki called Offwiki: http://offwiki.org.
Our community discusses potential changes to Wikipedia and its
Wikimedia sister projects that aren't easily discussed in forums like
this mailing list. We also try new ideas that we hope will be adopted
on-wiki- both social and technical in nature.

But that's not the primary reason I'm writing all of you. I've noticed
that many prominent Wikipedians have created accounts to avoid
impostors claiming their very public usernames for themselves. My
apologies, but Wikimedia doesn't run an OpenID server, and there's
really no other way for me to confirm identities before a user has
created a username. The problem is technical, and AFAIK there is
nothing I can do about it.

So, if you're concerned about your username being phished out, then
consider creating an account at http://offwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page.
Maybe you'll even stick around for a few minutes to see what we've
been up to. :)

Thanks.
,Wil

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Offwiki

[Katherine Casey]

The standard of verification used in other "offwiki" venues (for instance,
the en.wp UTRS unblock system, IRC cloaks, etc) is generally having the
user make an edit using their wikimedia account, to their own userspace,
verifying that they are the holder of account [whatever] on offwiki site
[whatever]. I see no particular reason you couldn't do the same (either at
registration, or when asked by a wikipedian whose account has been
"hijacked") if you're concerned about usernames being hijacked on
Offwiki.org, and any number of experienced Wikimedians could have told you
this if you'd asked. I find it a bit odd that your preferred solution is
instead to send an email to everyone that gives off a vaguely "join my site
or someone else will do it for you" vibe.


On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Wil Sinclair  wrote:

> Hi all, I've started a new wiki called Offwiki: http://offwiki.org.
> Our community discusses potential changes to Wikipedia and its
> Wikimedia sister projects that aren't easily discussed in forums like
> this mailing list. We also try new ideas that we hope will be adopted
> on-wiki- both social and technical in nature.
>
> But that's not the primary reason I'm writing all of you. I've noticed
> that many prominent Wikipedians have created accounts to avoid
> impostors claiming their very public usernames for themselves. My
> apologies, but Wikimedia doesn't run an OpenID server, and there's
> really no other way for me to confirm identities before a user has
> created a username. The problem is technical, and AFAIK there is
> nothing I can do about it.
>
> So, if you're concerned about your username being phished out, then
> consider creating an account at http://offwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page.
> Maybe you'll even stick around for a few minutes to see what we've
> been up to. :)
>
> Thanks.
> ,Wil
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Offwiki

[Newyorkbrad]

Wil, thank you for the announcement of your site. Although things
there were in a bit of a chaotic state the last time I looked at it
and there are clearly some bugs to be worked out, we will see whether
it can ultimately emerge as a fruitful discussion forum.

With regard to potential impersonation user registrations, including
users registering in the names of "prominent Wikipedians," or for that
matter of prominent Wikipedia critics, it is essential that you take
steps to verify the identity of registrants using such usernames.
Existing criticism sites such as Wikipediocracy and previously
Wikipedia Review have consistently checked such registrations before
allowing postings, and it is good practice that they do so, to avoid
potential negative impacts not only on the persons potentially
impersonated but on the reputations of their sites as well. (There are
other issues as to which those sites do not epitomize good practice in
my view, but this one they get right.) Similarly, I assume that such
checks are performed on Wikimedia mailing lists such as this one.
There is every reason that offwiki can do so as well and I hope you
intend to.

Regards,
Newyorkbrad

On 7/9/14, Wil Sinclair  wrote:
> Hi all, I've started a new wiki called Offwiki: http://offwiki.org.
> Our community discusses potential changes to Wikipedia and its
> Wikimedia sister projects that aren't easily discussed in forums like
> this mailing list. We also try new ideas that we hope will be adopted
> on-wiki- both social and technical in nature.
>
> But that's not the primary reason I'm writing all of you. I've noticed
> that many prominent Wikipedians have created accounts to avoid
> impostors claiming their very public usernames for themselves. My
> apologies, but Wikimedia doesn't run an OpenID server, and there's
> really no other way for me to confirm identities before a user has
> created a username. The problem is technical, and AFAIK there is
> nothing I can do about it.
>
> So, if you're concerned about your username being phished out, then
> consider creating an account at http://offwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page.
> Maybe you'll even stick around for a few minutes to see what we've
> been up to. :)
>
> Thanks.
> ,Wil
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Offwiki

[Fæ]

What do users of this list feel about it being used to discuss issues,
or attract more members, to non-Wikimedia websites?

Checking the definition at
 it's
ambiguous as really almost anything that mentions Wikimedia could be
in scope. I'm slightly concerned that if the 'offwiki' website is free
to use this list membership to attract greater participation by
Wikimedians, then to be fair and equitable, the same courtesy should
be allowed to any other website or forum which may be expected to have
a number of Wikimedians as participants. Obvious examples are
wikia.org, wikipediocracy.com and facebook.com.

Fae

On 10/07/2014, Newyorkbrad  wrote:
> Wil, thank you for the announcement of your site. Although things
> there were in a bit of a chaotic state the last time I looked at it
> and there are clearly some bugs to be worked out, we will see whether
> it can ultimately emerge as a fruitful discussion forum.
>
> With regard to potential impersonation user registrations, including
> users registering in the names of "prominent Wikipedians," or for that
> matter of prominent Wikipedia critics, it is essential that you take
> steps to verify the identity of registrants using such usernames.
> Existing criticism sites such as Wikipediocracy and previously
> Wikipedia Review have consistently checked such registrations before
> allowing postings, and it is good practice that they do so, to avoid
> potential negative impacts not only on the persons potentially
> impersonated but on the reputations of their sites as well. (There are
> other issues as to which those sites do not epitomize good practice in
> my view, but this one they get right.) Similarly, I assume that such
> checks are performed on Wikimedia mailing lists such as this one.
> There is every reason that offwiki can do so as well and I hope you
> intend to.
>
> Regards,
> Newyorkbrad
>
> On 7/9/14, Wil Sinclair  wrote:
>> Hi all, I've started a new wiki called Offwiki: http://offwiki.org.
>> Our community discusses potential changes to Wikipedia and its
>> Wikimedia sister projects that aren't easily discussed in forums like
>> this mailing list. We also try new ideas that we hope will be adopted
>> on-wiki- both social and technical in nature.
>>
>> But that's not the primary reason I'm writing all of you. I've noticed
>> that many prominent Wikipedians have created accounts to avoid
>> impostors claiming their very public usernames for themselves. My
>> apologies, but Wikimedia doesn't run an OpenID server, and there's
>> really no other way for me to confirm identities before a user has
>> created a username. The problem is technical, and AFAIK there is
>> nothing I can do about it.
>>
>> So, if you're concerned about your username being phished out, then
>> consider creating an account at http://offwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page.
>> Maybe you'll even stick around for a few minutes to see what we've
>> been up to. :)
>>
>> Thanks.
>> ,Wil
>>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Offwiki

[Newyorkbrad]

Given that the purpose of the new site is discussion toward the
improvement of Wikipedia/Wikimedia, I don't see a problem in principle
with a post mentioning the existence of the new site. Repeated
promotional e-mails would be out of line, but I trust that will not be
an issue.

Newyorkbrad

On 7/9/14, Fæ  wrote:
> What do users of this list feel about it being used to discuss issues,
> or attract more members, to non-Wikimedia websites?
>
> Checking the definition at
>  it's
> ambiguous as really almost anything that mentions Wikimedia could be
> in scope. I'm slightly concerned that if the 'offwiki' website is free
> to use this list membership to attract greater participation by
> Wikimedians, then to be fair and equitable, the same courtesy should
> be allowed to any other website or forum which may be expected to have
> a number of Wikimedians as participants. Obvious examples are
> wikia.org, wikipediocracy.com and facebook.com.
>
> Fae
>
> On 10/07/2014, Newyorkbrad  wrote:
>> Wil, thank you for the announcement of your site. Although things
>> there were in a bit of a chaotic state the last time I looked at it
>> and there are clearly some bugs to be worked out, we will see whether
>> it can ultimately emerge as a fruitful discussion forum.
>>
>> With regard to potential impersonation user registrations, including
>> users registering in the names of "prominent Wikipedians," or for that
>> matter of prominent Wikipedia critics, it is essential that you take
>> steps to verify the identity of registrants using such usernames.
>> Existing criticism sites such as Wikipediocracy and previously
>> Wikipedia Review have consistently checked such registrations before
>> allowing postings, and it is good practice that they do so, to avoid
>> potential negative impacts not only on the persons potentially
>> impersonated but on the reputations of their sites as well. (There are
>> other issues as to which those sites do not epitomize good practice in
>> my view, but this one they get right.) Similarly, I assume that such
>> checks are performed on Wikimedia mailing lists such as this one.
>> There is every reason that offwiki can do so as well and I hope you
>> intend to.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Newyorkbrad
>>
>> On 7/9/14, Wil Sinclair  wrote:
>>> Hi all, I've started a new wiki called Offwiki: http://offwiki.org.
>>> Our community discusses potential changes to Wikipedia and its
>>> Wikimedia sister projects that aren't easily discussed in forums like
>>> this mailing list. We also try new ideas that we hope will be adopted
>>> on-wiki- both social and technical in nature.
>>>
>>> But that's not the primary reason I'm writing all of you. I've noticed
>>> that many prominent Wikipedians have created accounts to avoid
>>> impostors claiming their very public usernames for themselves. My
>>> apologies, but Wikimedia doesn't run an OpenID server, and there's
>>> really no other way for me to confirm identities before a user has
>>> created a username. The problem is technical, and AFAIK there is
>>> nothing I can do about it.
>>>
>>> So, if you're concerned about your username being phished out, then
>>> consider creating an account at http://offwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page.
>>> Maybe you'll even stick around for a few minutes to see what we've
>>> been up to. :)
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> ,Wil
>>>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Offwiki

[MZMcBride]

Wil Sinclair wrote:
>Hi all, I've started a new wiki called Offwiki: http://offwiki.org.
>Our community discusses potential changes to Wikipedia and its
>Wikimedia sister projects that aren't easily discussed in forums like
>this mailing list. We also try new ideas that we hope will be adopted
>on-wiki- both social and technical in nature.

Welcome back!

I enjoyed the utensil analogy on the main page. It's very cute. :-)

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not a knife, because we don't make our points here by hurting Wikipedia
or other Wikipedia-related sites. And it's not a fork, because we're
here to build a better encyclopedia by making Wikipedia itself better.
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I also applaud the effort in setting up your own MediaWiki installation.
MediaWiki is a neat platform; it can be a bit brutish at times, but it has
a lot of nice features, including a decent support structure and a vibrant
development community behind it.

MZMcBride



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[Wikimedia-l] Community RfCs about MediaViewer

[Pine W]

This discussion has closed on English Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_Viewer/June_2014_RfC

Will WMF deactivate MediaViewer on English Wikipedia per community
consensus?

Also, as WMF probably knows, Commons is currently having a similar
discussion:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/Media_Viewer_software_feature

Thanks,

Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2014-15 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

[Pine W]

Thank you for the update, Alex.

I find it problematic that WMF would override a community grantmaking
committee that WMF previously had agreed to work with, especially if the
override is to approve a proposal. I understand that WMF might find a
reason to decline a grant after committee approval because WMF finds
something in its due diligence process that is unacceptable such as that
the grantee has overdue reports on prior grants, but if a grantmaking
committee develops consensus against a proposal and WMF approves it anyway,
I think that is a problem, it shows a lack of trust, and it suggests that
the WMF isn't serious about its own grantmaking process.

I appreciate the flexibility of GAC's process but apparently the current
system is not working, as everyone seems to agree. I am curious, what
alternatives are you exploring?

Thanks,

Pine


On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Alex Wang  wrote:

> Dear Pine,
>
> Thank you for your concern about the Grant Advisory Committee (GAC). You
> are correct that there is a consistently low level of participation by GAC
> members and we are seeking to address this issue through a revamp of the
> process and available resources.
>
> The Project and Event Grants (PEG) program accepts proposals on a rolling
> basis and we strive to provide timely responses to all requests. All GAC
> members are given notice and at least 2 weeks to comment on proposals.
> Often times, we work with requesters on improving their proposal to address
> GAC member concerns and accept it before the GAC goes back to change their
> initial assessments. Please note that the GAC is an advisory committee, not
> a decision-making body, and on rare occasions WMF staff's duty of care may
> lead them to disagree with their recommendations.
>
> We also welcome all community members to comment on PEG requests. This is a
> good opportunity to remind everyone reading this to not hesitate to comment
> on any open proposal.  Open proposals can always be seen here:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/Index/Requests#Open_submissions
>
> Best,
>
> Alex
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Pine W  wrote:
>
> > Hi Tilman,
> >
> > 1. Would WMF please document in the FAQ that Global Education, excluding
> > the US/CAN program, is funded and managed through Grantmaking, and the
> > US/CAN Education Program is run through the independent Wiki Education
> > Foundation?
> >
> > 2. Would someone please produce a redline version of the AP that compares
> > the final AP to the version that was sent to the FDC?
> >
> > 3. I suggest that in the future that the Board be given at least one
> month
> > between their meeting for reviewing the AP and the proposed effective
> date
> > of the AP. Otherwise, if the Board's meeting date is within a few days of
> > the AP effective date, the Board may feel pressure to move quickly to
> > approve the AP, and if the Board doesn't pass the AP then unless I am
> > mistaken the Foundation has no spending or fundraising authority as of
> the
> > start of the next fiscal year.
> >
> > 4. The FAQ says that P&E grants are "reviewed by the 28-member Grant
> > Advisory Committee  or GAC)".
> > However,
> > as far as I can tell, GAC is functioning at a very low level. This grant
> > [1] for about US$7000 received only one vote among all 28 GAC members,
> and
> > it was an oppose vote, yet WMF approved the grant. This grant [2] for
> about
> > US$9000 had no support or oppose votes from GAC members, yet WMF approved
> > the grant. This grant [3] for about US$30,000 received one oppose, one
> > abstention, and one "no comment" among all 28 grant members, yet WMF
> > approved the grant. Something seems wrong here. I have heard that GAC is
> > being revamped but in the meantime I am concerned about such large grants
> > being approved with so little community review. My worst-case scenario is
> > that WMF approves something with expensive and damaging consequences like
> > IEP or AFT5 that might have been refused or might have been better
> designed
> > if it had been subjected to meaningful community scrutiny. Because the
> > Annual Plan seems to assume that GAC is working well, I feel that this is
> > an issue that needs urgent attention.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Pine
> >
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:PEG/Metro/Institutional_Growth_and_Community_Fellow
> > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:PEG/WM_ZA/WLM-ZA-2014
> > [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/WM_AM/Wiki_Camp
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Tilman Bayer 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > the Wikimedia Foundation's 2014-15 Annual Plan has just been published
> at
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:2014-15_Wikimedia_Foundation_Plan.pdf
> > >
> > > accompanied by a Q&A:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/2014-2015_Annual_Plan_Questions_and_Answers
> > >
> > > The p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community RfCs about MediaViewer

[K. Peachey]

Has a bug request been filed?


On 10 July 2014 15:03, Pine W  wrote:

> This discussion has closed on English Wikipedia:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_Viewer/June_2014_RfC
>
> Will WMF deactivate MediaViewer on English Wikipedia per community
> consensus?
>
> Also, as WMF probably knows, Commons is currently having a similar
> discussion:
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/Media_Viewer_software_feature
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine's anniversary

[Saroj Dhakal]

Congratulations ! It was great working with you, organizing Wiki Loves
Earth 2014 in Nepal.
 On Jun 5, 2014 6:00 AM, "Oona Castro"  wrote:

> Congrats!
>
>
> On 2 June 2014 15:50, Amy Vossbrinck  wrote:
>
> > Very nice work!!
> >
> > Take good care, Amy
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Cristian Consonni <
> kikkocrist...@gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > Today, our organization celebrates anniversary - 5 years from the
> date
> > > > of creation.
> > > >
> > > > Exactly 5 years ago, on May 31, 2009, in Kyiv was held the
> constituent
> > > > meeting, which approved the bylaws and elected its first Board of the
> > new
> > > > organization, known as Wikimedia Ukraine.
> > > >
> > > > Our community has gone through a long and difficult path. Birthday of
> > > > Wikimedia Ukraine for our community is the third remarkable date this
> > > > year. On January 30 was the 10th anniversary of the establishment of
> > > > Ukrainian Wikipedia and on May 12 Ukrainian Wikipedia has crossed the
> > > > threshold of 500 000 articles.
> > > >
> > > > We want to thank to Wikimedia Foundation Inc. for their help, to our
> > > > neighboring communities for fruitful cooperation with us and of
> course
> > > > to our community for their contributions!
> > > >
> > > > Regards, Levon Azizian
> > > > Deputy chair
> > > > Wikimedia Ukraine
> > >
> > > Congratulations!
> > >
> > > Cristian
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