Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

[Asaf Bartov]

Hello, Rupert.

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:17 AM rupert THURNER 
wrote:

>
> asaf, you mind loose a word about the spec or brand of these laptops?
>

The specs vary, but all laptops are about 3-4 years old.  The current stock
includes mostly Dell and Lenovo laptops of various models.  We are not
prepared to track the specs in detail, because we are also not prepared to
spend the time answering specific questions and letting people pick and
choose specific models.  (see Principle #1 in the program page on Meta).

The goal of the program is to provide laptops to contributors who really
need a reasonably-recent functioning laptop because they do not have one
(i.e. have a dysfunctional laptop, only have mobile devices, etc.), not to
ones who already have a reasonably-recent functioning laptop and may be
interested in a slight upgrade.  So enabling spec comparison seems like it
would offer a very low return on the time spent.

  A.
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[Wikimedia-l] March 20: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#11)

[Katherine Maher]

Hi all!

After months of planning, we are underway: we officially launched some big
discussions last week! If you missed the many messages sent out with this
news, read on for more details.

(Apologies for sending this out a few days late - we were very busy with
annual planning meetings last week.)

*Featured requests*
With the start of Phase 1 discussions for Tracks A & B, there are two
things we want to bring additional attention to:

   - Join the Phase 1 discussion! What do we want to build or achieve
   together over the next 15 years?
   - https://meta.wikimedia.org/?curid=10212156
   - We want to reach as many people in as many places as possible - and to
   do that we need your help. Sign up via this Google Form to coordinate a
   Phase 1 discussion with your group or community.
   - https://goo.gl/c394KI

*All Tracks*

   - A new San Francisco-based williamsworks team member, Sara Johnson,[1]
   has joined the firm to help support their work on the movement strategy
   process.


*Track A (Organized groups) and Track B (Individual contributors)*

   - Tracks A and B officially launched on March 14 with the opening of
   Phase 1 discussions.[2]
   - Launch emails for Tracks A and B have been sent out to individuals and
   Wikimedia mailing lists. We will be sending out via MassMessage as well
   once translated.[3]
   - Nicole held first call with the Track A Advisory Group on Monday.
   Recruiting efforts for this group are continuing.
   - So far, 41 people have signed up to help facilitate discussions and
   two training calls have been conducted this week. We encourage more people
   to please sign up as well.[4]
   - The Core Team and Track Leads are continuing to work with Wikimedia
   Deutschland in preparation for movement strategy track at Wikimedia
   Conference coming up later this month in Berlin.[5]
   - Strategy Language Coordinators (Track B) have been translating the
   content and copying the discussion pages for the Phase 1 discussions, in
   order to adapt them for their local language projects.
   - The Track Leads are investigating ways to make the user journeys
   through the process clearer in order to help guide participants through all
   the content as the information grows over the course of conversations.
   - CentralNotice banner will begin by end of this week for logged in
   users. The language reads“Wikimedia 2030: Participate in the conversation
   about the future of the Wikimedia movement and its projects.” This is being
   translated in the 19 supported languages, and we hope for volunteers to
   assist with as many other languages as possible.
   - The survey form method of collecting individual input during Phase 1
   is now posted online.[7]
   - Based on the Track A Advisory Group’s recommendations, Suzie, Jaime,
   and Nicole are working to simplify the materials and user experience.
   - Guillaume, Nick Wilson, Jan Eissfeldt, and Karen Brown are posting
   additional support materials to the portal on Meta-Wiki and are working
   with the strategy language coordinators to translate the following:
   - Discussion page on Meta-Wiki:
  https://meta.wikimedia.org/?curid=10212156
  - A list of all the current discussions to help people choose which
  discussion to participate in:
  https://meta.wikimedia.org/?curid=10152617
  - Discussion Coordinator’s guide to help people organize discussions,
  developed with Nicole: https://meta.wikimedia.org/?curid=10219273
  - Discussion guides to help people facilitate different types of
  discussions: https://meta.wikimedia.org/?curid=10211355
  - Method for posting and displaying summary pages of discussions,
  including templates to support implementation:
  https://meta.wikimedia.org/?curid=10210053
  - A revised process map, designed by the Foundation's Communications
  department: https://meta.wikimedia.org/?curid=10152619
  - On-wiki index of people who have signed up to facilitate
  discussions: https://meta.wikimedia.org/?curid=10211586
   - The Core Team continued working on the strategy briefing,[8] and for
   example included a graphic of the greater Wikimedia ecosystem.[9] Ed and
   Shannon focused on producing the presentation deck to be presented at
   Berlin Conference and in the upcoming Wikimedia Foundation Board meeting.
   They are working with the Foundation's Communications department to help
   craft a clear narrative and presentation materials.
   - The Core team is preparing for organized group discussions with
   Wikimedia Foundation staff and Board.


*Track C (Partners and readers in higher awareness regions) and Track D
(Partners and readers in lower awareness regions)*

   - Track C participant outreach continues, and Track D outreach began
   this week!
   - A contact relationship management (CRM) system has been set up to help
   facilitate coordination of outreach to Track C & D contacts.
   - Desk research/interview proposal 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

[Pine W]

Gergo, perhaps my point got lost since it was a tangent from the TCoC
discussion. I was intending to address the topic of communication and
information management in general. This topic came up during the course of
the TCoC thread, and I was responding to that. Lodewijk was right to branch
the discussion.

Pine


On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Gergő Tisza  wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Pine W  wrote:
>
> > As I said, some of this is WMF-specific. For example, WMF could
> coordinate
> > its requests for surveys and consultations so that they happen on a
> > predictable monthly basis instead of sending what feels like 10+
> > notifications every month for separate consultations and surveys
>
>
> You might be looking for https://meta.wikimedia.
> org/wiki/Community_Engagement/Calendar
> In any case, it seems a bit tendentious to raise this in the context of the
> Code of the Coduct, which (as it has been told ad nauseam) was a volunteer
> initiative, organized mostly with resources available to volunteers.
> Feel free though to discuss your preferences on notification frequency with
> the people who complained all along that insufficient effort is being made
> to get the community to participate.
> There is a Hungarian saying about a rabbit and a hat, of which these
> conversations somewhat remind me:
> https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/4bd293/
> til_that_hungary_held_a_contest_to_name_a_danube/d18f4k9/
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

[Pine W]

Attempting to summon Chris Schilling over here from the other thread. (:

I think that some kind of analysis about optimal use of consultations and
surveys would be beneficial, and I'd welcome seeing something like that in
the next Annual Plan. Perhaps there might even be a consultation or survey
about consultations or surveys, which I know sounds ironic but may be
helpful in figuring out how much is too much or too little, timing,
locations, etc.

Information management is a big deal. We have watchlists, email, social
media channels, Echo, and lots of other tools, but even so -- or perhaps
because -- there are so many channels, it's easy to drown. I imagine that
holds true for both staff and community members, and I'd welcome some
initiatives to improve the situation. Perhaps someone will have some ideas
that they can submit to IdeaLab.

Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Board Recruitment Kick-Off: Changes to the Timeline

[Bishakha Datta]

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Christophe Henner 
wrote:
>
>
> 2. Time comitment. So on that, we are actively working on trying to reduce
> the mandatory time board members have to allocate to WMF. Goal is between
> this year and next year to lower it down to what we benchmarked as average
> (and I can't find the number again, I'll dig into that). That work started
> after a discussion with Guy on the fact that the time comitment was so high
> we migh scare away high profiles. So working to get mandatory board time
> down.
> But there's also "non-mandatory" time comitment. I can only speak for me,
> but right now, it takes me from 2h in the day up to 6h, almost everyday. I
> try to have Sundays when I don't work (either for my job or wikimedia). In
> that I do include reading (scanning for some mailing lists) emails.
>
> Right now, I think that the most complicated thing to handle is travel
> times as you need to take almost a week off every time we travel abroad.
> But until we invent teleportation (that would be super cool), I can't see a
> way to change that.
>
> This resonated so strongly I had to write in. I think you've nailed it -
it's not about money. It's about time.

And not just the mandatory time commitment, but also the non-mandatory time
commitment...the expectations we have of ourselves, the extra time we put
in not because it's compulsory - this isn't a job after all (although it
feels like a part-time one). But because it's hard to be an effective board
member without putting in that extra effort.

Much as I loved it, I often felt I was drowning when I was a board member.
I often found it really hard to flip my mind space and my mental energies
between my paid day job and my wikimedia commitments - and sometimes had to
put my day job on the backburner. Or family, friends, life, the universe
and everything. None of which is tenable beyond a point.

The other issue is the travel. Now that I'm an FDC member, I can see how
two in-person meetings a year versus four makes a huge difference. [And as
a related aside, the time commitment as an FDC member is way way more
manageable - and takes place in two big chunks, not as an everyday thing.]

It would be great if you'll could rethink the time and travel expected of
board members, so that the whole thing is less of a super-human endeavour.
:)

Good luck!
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

[Chris "Jethro" Schilling]

Hey Pine,

Had to laugh a little bit about a consultation about consultations, but I
understand the rationale for it.  Your point is well taken that information
management is important to think about when there is much going on.

I think the community notification calendar
 that Gergő
has mentioned above is a good place to start thinking about improvements of
managing information.  Anecdotally, some of the issues I have seen and
heard about are:

* having to follow mailing lists that are too active (like this one),
* having to follow too many disparate mailing lists,
* getting pinged too many times from user talk page messages sent through
Special:MassMessage.
* Too many consultations focused on overlapping audiences

A centralized calendar can help mitigate some of these issues.  In general,
the calendar has been used for planning and scheduling purposes, but I like
the idea of making it more usable to for folks wanting to know what
consultations are happening.  Lodewijk recently suggested to me that some
filters and other descriptors (e.g. country, projects targeted) will be
needed to help users see what is relevant to them.  Building those
components is one technical challenge, and would be making sure the
calendar gets used by the relevant consultation audience is another.  We
would need to think about how to inform people about the calendar without
also falling back to doing more announcements on the usual channels a la
"Hey, this new consultation is on the calendar."

One issue I don't have a good answer for right now is how we can solve the
problem of having too many announcement channels while also being confident
that when a consultation is announced (by anyone) in some set of approved
channels, can they expect to get sufficient and representative
participation?  That might be something we can figure out in a survey about
consultations generally as you've suggested.

- Chris

Chris "Jethro" Schilling
I JethroBT (WMF) 
Community Organizer, Wikimedia Foundation


On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Pine W  wrote:

> Attempting to summon Chris Schilling over here from the other thread. (:
>
> I think that some kind of analysis about optimal use of consultations and
> surveys would be beneficial, and I'd welcome seeing something like that in
> the next Annual Plan. Perhaps there might even be a consultation or survey
> about consultations or surveys, which I know sounds ironic but may be
> helpful in figuring out how much is too much or too little, timing,
> locations, etc.
>
> Information management is a big deal. We have watchlists, email, social
> media channels, Echo, and lots of other tools, but even so -- or perhaps
> because -- there are so many channels, it's easy to drown. I imagine that
> holds true for both staff and community members, and I'd welcome some
> initiatives to improve the situation. Perhaps someone will have some ideas
> that they can submit to IdeaLab.
>
> Pine
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

[Moheen Reeyad]

+1

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:31 AM, Asaf Bartov  wrote:

> Hello, Rupert.
>
> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:17 AM rupert THURNER 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > asaf, you mind loose a word about the spec or brand of these laptops?
> >
>
> The specs vary, but all laptops are about 3-4 years old.  The current stock
> includes mostly Dell and Lenovo laptops of various models.  We are not
> prepared to track the specs in detail, because we are also not prepared to
> spend the time answering specific questions and letting people pick and
> choose specific models.  (see Principle #1 in the program page on Meta).
>
> The goal of the program is to provide laptops to contributors who really
> need a reasonably-recent functioning laptop because they do not have one
> (i.e. have a dysfunctional laptop, only have mobile devices, etc.), not to
> ones who already have a reasonably-recent functioning laptop and may be
> interested in a slight upgrade.  So enabling spec comparison seems like it
> would offer a very low return on the time spent.
>
>   A.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sambad's 100 Women Editathon

[Sailesh Patnaik]

Dear All,

We finished the Sambad's 100 Women Editathon, As the event was of two days,
the first day was for training the journalists on “How to write on
Wikipedia, Create Account, Upload pictures etc”.. More than 30 journalists
and 3 Wikipedians from Bhubaneswar Tungi attended the event on first day.

On second day, All total 23 journalists and 6 Wikipedians from the
WikiTungi attended the event. The Wikipedians helped the journalists in
writing articles and almost 23 articles were created or improved during the
editathon. We shared the WikiTungi concept during the event and the
journalists were interested in taking part in Tungi meetups and learn more
about Wikipedia.
Tanaya Patnaik, the Executive Director of Eastern Media ltd. also announced
that the Tungi community in Bhubaneswar can use the "Ama Odisha" office for
the meetups. Sambad is also planning for Wiki Training camps in different
parts of Odisha, hope we will hear some good news about this.

I have some nice stories to share, I will share a broad report of this
event in the Wikimedia blog and will write a learning pattern on how the
two days event idea worked for this, how Sambad's effort helped in getting
some good articles and local community participation made it easy.  :)

Images from the event are here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Sambad_100_Women_Editathon

Media Mentions:
1.
http://sambad.in/news/state/sambad-wikipedia-to-host-first-ever-100-women-edit-a-thon-in-india/40857.html
2. https://youtu.be/Nu7X8aIiObY
3. http://sambad.in/news/state/sambad-100-women-wikepedia/41745.html
4.
http://odishasuntimes.com/2017/03/19/first-time-in-india-100-women-edit-a-thon-held-in-odisha/
5.
http://odishasuntimes.com/2017/03/15/sambad-wikipedia-to-host-100-women-edit-a-thon-in-odisha/
6. http://www.utkalnews.in/first-time-india-100-women-edit-thon-held-odisha/

On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 at 10:52 PM, Sydney Poore 
wrote:

> Thank you to sharing. This is truly awesome. :-)
>
> Looking forward to hearing results.
>
> Sydney
> User FloNight
>
> Sydney Poore
> User:FloNight
> Co-founder Kentucky Wikimedians,
> Co-founder WikiWomen User Group,
> Co-founder WikiConference North America
> Board member of Wiki Project Med Foundation,
> Member of Simple Annual Plan Grant Committee
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:04 AM, Sailesh Patnaik <
> sailesh.patnaik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear All,
> > Inspired by BBC's 100 Women Editathon, The Odia Wikipedia community is
> > organising an "100 Women Editathon" [1]in collaboration with the Sambad
> > newspaper. Sambad is one of the largest circulated newspaper in Odisha
> and
> > its Eastern Media ltd. is also a popular media house. The event is going
> to
> > be organised in Sambad Bhavan on 18th and 19th March 2017. [2]
> >
> > The theme of this event is to write articles on women achievers of
> Odisha.
> > The Sambad is interested in organising regular events in bridging the
> > gender gap in content and will also provide images of Women from its
> > archive.
> >
> > 1. https://or.wikipedia.org/s/13hj
> > 2.
> > http://cis-india.org/a2k/blogs/women2019s-history-
> > month-sambad-collaborates-with-odia-wikipedia-for-a-two-day-edit-a-thon
> >
> >
> > Media mentions:
> > 1.
> > http://sambad.in/news/state/sambad-wikipedia-to-host-
> > first-ever-100-women-edit-a-thon-in-india/40857.html
> > 2.
> > http://odishasuntimes.com/2017/03/15/sambad-wikipedia-
> > to-host-100-women-edit-a-thon-in-odisha/
> >
> > Thanks and Regards
> > Sailesh
> > --
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> > Phone: +91-7537097770
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

[Pine W]

I'm hoping that one advancement which will help both WMF and the community
will be the Newsletter extension. I'm hoping that will help cut down on the
number of broadcast emails and centralnotice banners.

I'd like to see all WMF notifications for consultations and surveys
scheduled for a single day each month, and have once-monthly reminder for
the same. That should cut down on the deluge of notifications.

Agreed that WMF does a lot of broadcasting, and could spend more time
investing in thoughtful conversations instead of mass-produced surveys and
consultations. I'd like to see monthly IRC office hours for C-levels and
WMF Board members.

I like Peter's idea of surveys including requests for feedback about the
design of the surveys.

On the community end, I think what can be done may be wiki-specific. I'm
most familiar with ENWP's wide range of project talk pages, and there are
so many of them that watching all of them is unrealistic. That's just for a
single project; many of us spread ourselves among multiple projects. When I
wrote the *Signpost *Discussion Report back in the days when the *Signpost *was
often a weekly publication, I made it be a summary of active RfCs in
project-wide topics. If we could automate some kind of aggregation tool for
creating summaries of active discussions and VP posts like was done in the
Discussion Report, I think that would help with increasing efficiency. But
that would be difficult to automate. Government organizations pay staff
members and contractors to do that kind of work. I wouldn't want WMF to be
summarizing community discussions for the community, but if funding can be
found for that kind of communications support and if affiliates are willing
to supervise it, I think that might be helpful.

(As a side note, I think that the *Signpost *and other community
newsletters can be highly valuable, but getting people to volunteer to
write them on a weekly basis is a problem. If I had the money to feel
comfortable doing so and if legal liability issues could be worked out, I'd
personally sponsor some funding for a small number of people to work
on the *Signpost
*-- including the Discussion Report -- as a part-time job.)

Pine


On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:46 AM, Lodewijk 
wrote:

> Thanks Fae.
>
> Aside from what the initiator of the communication can do (in this case,
> the WMF/affiliates), what could the community do to make their life easier?
> It sounds to me like you're answering that with 'nothing'. Fair enough,
> thanks for the response. Anyone has some ideas what might be improvements
> on the community side of the communications?
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> 2017-03-20 11:35 GMT+01:00 Fæ :
>
> > I did, it's not my job to teach Communications theory to the WMF or all
> > affiliates by writing 50 words in an email. There are plenty of books for
> > that. Most define what Communication is, and how to measure its success,
> > perfectly well.
> >
> > Fae
> >
> >
> > On 20 Mar 2017 10:24, "Gerard Meijssen" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hoi,
> > Would you be so kind and answer the question Lodewijk asked. We are all
> > aware that things are not perfect but what is it that can be done to
> > improve it?
> > Thanks,
> > GerardM
> >
> > On 20 March 2017 at 10:58, Fæ  wrote:
> >
> > > In practice what we (Wikimedians) see from WMF communications
> programmes
> > is
> > > widely spread announcements and sometimes an anonymous survey, again
> > widely
> > > spread. This is literally not 'communication', it is 'broadcasting'.
> > >
> > > For communication to be meaningful, your message must not only be sent
> to
> > > the right stakeholders, but it is essential for the communication to be
> > > two-way. This is why I find it especially frustrating to see generic
> > posts
> > > from the WMF sent by bots with no named person being the contact point.
> > At
> > > least with most emails sent to email lists, these are from a named
> person
> > > and community members can respond to it, often with later replies from
> a
> > > WMF employee.
> > >
> > > Fae
> > >
> > > On 20 Mar 2017 09:51, "Peter Southwood" 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Might it be useful to analyse the community before trying to get
> > > communication out of them? Then efforts can be directed to be more
> > > representative of the various parts. OK, I understand that to analyse
> > them
> > > it needs some communication. But that is a specific and directed
> > > communication. Work out what might be useful to know and ask everyone.
> > Put
> > > a survey link on talk page for logged in users, and a banner  for IP
> > users.
> > > We get this anyway for fundraising. Before going full scale, test the
> > > survey on a small group, to find out what is wrong with it, fix the
> worst
> > > problems, and be sure to allow comments and feedback.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

[Fæ]

I did, it's not my job to teach Communications theory to the WMF or all
affiliates by writing 50 words in an email. There are plenty of books for
that. Most define what Communication is, and how to measure its success,
perfectly well.

Fae


On 20 Mar 2017 10:24, "Gerard Meijssen"  wrote:

Hoi,
Would you be so kind and answer the question Lodewijk asked. We are all
aware that things are not perfect but what is it that can be done to
improve it?
Thanks,
GerardM

On 20 March 2017 at 10:58, Fæ  wrote:

> In practice what we (Wikimedians) see from WMF communications programmes
is
> widely spread announcements and sometimes an anonymous survey, again
widely
> spread. This is literally not 'communication', it is 'broadcasting'.
>
> For communication to be meaningful, your message must not only be sent to
> the right stakeholders, but it is essential for the communication to be
> two-way. This is why I find it especially frustrating to see generic posts
> from the WMF sent by bots with no named person being the contact point. At
> least with most emails sent to email lists, these are from a named person
> and community members can respond to it, often with later replies from a
> WMF employee.
>
> Fae
>
> On 20 Mar 2017 09:51, "Peter Southwood" 
> wrote:
>
> Might it be useful to analyse the community before trying to get
> communication out of them? Then efforts can be directed to be more
> representative of the various parts. OK, I understand that to analyse them
> it needs some communication. But that is a specific and directed
> communication. Work out what might be useful to know and ask everyone.
Put
> a survey link on talk page for logged in users, and a banner  for IP
users.
> We get this anyway for fundraising. Before going full scale, test the
> survey on a small group, to find out what is wrong with it, fix the worst
> problems, and be sure to allow comments and feedback.
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> Behalf Of Lodewijk
> Sent: Monday, 20 March 2017 11:04 AM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations
>
> Hi Pine,
>
> it's always easier of course to tell other people what they have to
change,
> which is why I'm asking the opposite question too :) What can we change,
on
> our end, to make communications easier for the WMF, for community members
> that want to reach out, for chapters and other affiliates. All these are
> having a hard time to get useful input from the community.
>
> There seem very few generally accepted approaches to that:
> - using some mailing list, or some kind of forum that serves a part of the
> community you think would be most relevant (such as this mailing list, the
> wikitech mailing list etc).
> - Going all out and doing a full scale consultation/RfC with banners and
> everything. Gives you lots of comments.
> - Doing a broad and translated approach through village pumps etc - gives
> you a broad reach over languages, but within those languages still reaches
> a specific part of the community.
>
> Those methods are typically either very expensive, or not very effective.
> And I'm only talking about getting input here, not even about 'informing'
> everyone.
>
> So what can we, as a community, change to facilitate better exchange of
> ideas, experiences and provide input?
>
> Best
> Lodewijk
>
> PS: I apologize to the people who read this kind of email for the n'th
> time, it's not the first time I talk about this, I guess :)
>
> 2017-03-20 7:40 GMT+01:00 Pine W :
>
> > Attempting to summon Chris Schilling over here from the other thread. (:
> >
> > I think that some kind of analysis about optimal use of consultations
> > and surveys would be beneficial, and I'd welcome seeing something like
> > that in the next Annual Plan. Perhaps there might even be a
> > consultation or survey about consultations or surveys, which I know
> > sounds ironic but may be helpful in figuring out how much is too much
> > or too little, timing, locations, etc.
> >
> > Information management is a big deal. We have watchlists, email,
> > social media channels, Echo, and lots of other tools, but even so --
> > or perhaps because -- there are so many channels, it's easy to drown.
> > I imagine that holds true for both staff and community members, and
> > I'd welcome some initiatives to improve the situation. Perhaps someone
> > will have some ideas that they can submit to IdeaLab.
> >
> > Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

[Fæ]

In practice what we (Wikimedians) see from WMF communications programmes is
widely spread announcements and sometimes an anonymous survey, again widely
spread. This is literally not 'communication', it is 'broadcasting'.

For communication to be meaningful, your message must not only be sent to
the right stakeholders, but it is essential for the communication to be
two-way. This is why I find it especially frustrating to see generic posts
from the WMF sent by bots with no named person being the contact point. At
least with most emails sent to email lists, these are from a named person
and community members can respond to it, often with later replies from a
WMF employee.

Fae

On 20 Mar 2017 09:51, "Peter Southwood" 
wrote:

Might it be useful to analyse the community before trying to get
communication out of them? Then efforts can be directed to be more
representative of the various parts. OK, I understand that to analyse them
it needs some communication. But that is a specific and directed
communication. Work out what might be useful to know and ask everyone.  Put
a survey link on talk page for logged in users, and a banner  for IP users.
We get this anyway for fundraising. Before going full scale, test the
survey on a small group, to find out what is wrong with it, fix the worst
problems, and be sure to allow comments and feedback.
Cheers,
Peter

-Original Message-
From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
Behalf Of Lodewijk
Sent: Monday, 20 March 2017 11:04 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

Hi Pine,

it's always easier of course to tell other people what they have to change,
which is why I'm asking the opposite question too :) What can we change, on
our end, to make communications easier for the WMF, for community members
that want to reach out, for chapters and other affiliates. All these are
having a hard time to get useful input from the community.

There seem very few generally accepted approaches to that:
- using some mailing list, or some kind of forum that serves a part of the
community you think would be most relevant (such as this mailing list, the
wikitech mailing list etc).
- Going all out and doing a full scale consultation/RfC with banners and
everything. Gives you lots of comments.
- Doing a broad and translated approach through village pumps etc - gives
you a broad reach over languages, but within those languages still reaches
a specific part of the community.

Those methods are typically either very expensive, or not very effective.
And I'm only talking about getting input here, not even about 'informing'
everyone.

So what can we, as a community, change to facilitate better exchange of
ideas, experiences and provide input?

Best
Lodewijk

PS: I apologize to the people who read this kind of email for the n'th
time, it's not the first time I talk about this, I guess :)

2017-03-20 7:40 GMT+01:00 Pine W :

> Attempting to summon Chris Schilling over here from the other thread. (:
>
> I think that some kind of analysis about optimal use of consultations
> and surveys would be beneficial, and I'd welcome seeing something like
> that in the next Annual Plan. Perhaps there might even be a
> consultation or survey about consultations or surveys, which I know
> sounds ironic but may be helpful in figuring out how much is too much
> or too little, timing, locations, etc.
>
> Information management is a big deal. We have watchlists, email,
> social media channels, Echo, and lots of other tools, but even so --
> or perhaps because -- there are so many channels, it's easy to drown.
> I imagine that holds true for both staff and community members, and
> I'd welcome some initiatives to improve the situation. Perhaps someone
> will have some ideas that they can submit to IdeaLab.
>
> Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

[Lodewijk]

Thanks Fae.

Aside from what the initiator of the communication can do (in this case,
the WMF/affiliates), what could the community do to make their life easier?
It sounds to me like you're answering that with 'nothing'. Fair enough,
thanks for the response. Anyone has some ideas what might be improvements
on the community side of the communications?

Best,
Lodewijk

2017-03-20 11:35 GMT+01:00 Fæ :

> I did, it's not my job to teach Communications theory to the WMF or all
> affiliates by writing 50 words in an email. There are plenty of books for
> that. Most define what Communication is, and how to measure its success,
> perfectly well.
>
> Fae
>
>
> On 20 Mar 2017 10:24, "Gerard Meijssen"  wrote:
>
> Hoi,
> Would you be so kind and answer the question Lodewijk asked. We are all
> aware that things are not perfect but what is it that can be done to
> improve it?
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> On 20 March 2017 at 10:58, Fæ  wrote:
>
> > In practice what we (Wikimedians) see from WMF communications programmes
> is
> > widely spread announcements and sometimes an anonymous survey, again
> widely
> > spread. This is literally not 'communication', it is 'broadcasting'.
> >
> > For communication to be meaningful, your message must not only be sent to
> > the right stakeholders, but it is essential for the communication to be
> > two-way. This is why I find it especially frustrating to see generic
> posts
> > from the WMF sent by bots with no named person being the contact point.
> At
> > least with most emails sent to email lists, these are from a named person
> > and community members can respond to it, often with later replies from a
> > WMF employee.
> >
> > Fae
> >
> > On 20 Mar 2017 09:51, "Peter Southwood" 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Might it be useful to analyse the community before trying to get
> > communication out of them? Then efforts can be directed to be more
> > representative of the various parts. OK, I understand that to analyse
> them
> > it needs some communication. But that is a specific and directed
> > communication. Work out what might be useful to know and ask everyone.
> Put
> > a survey link on talk page for logged in users, and a banner  for IP
> users.
> > We get this anyway for fundraising. Before going full scale, test the
> > survey on a small group, to find out what is wrong with it, fix the worst
> > problems, and be sure to allow comments and feedback.
> > Cheers,
> > Peter
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> > Behalf Of Lodewijk
> > Sent: Monday, 20 March 2017 11:04 AM
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations
> >
> > Hi Pine,
> >
> > it's always easier of course to tell other people what they have to
> change,
> > which is why I'm asking the opposite question too :) What can we change,
> on
> > our end, to make communications easier for the WMF, for community members
> > that want to reach out, for chapters and other affiliates. All these are
> > having a hard time to get useful input from the community.
> >
> > There seem very few generally accepted approaches to that:
> > - using some mailing list, or some kind of forum that serves a part of
> the
> > community you think would be most relevant (such as this mailing list,
> the
> > wikitech mailing list etc).
> > - Going all out and doing a full scale consultation/RfC with banners and
> > everything. Gives you lots of comments.
> > - Doing a broad and translated approach through village pumps etc - gives
> > you a broad reach over languages, but within those languages still
> reaches
> > a specific part of the community.
> >
> > Those methods are typically either very expensive, or not very effective.
> > And I'm only talking about getting input here, not even about 'informing'
> > everyone.
> >
> > So what can we, as a community, change to facilitate better exchange of
> > ideas, experiences and provide input?
> >
> > Best
> > Lodewijk
> >
> > PS: I apologize to the people who read this kind of email for the n'th
> > time, it's not the first time I talk about this, I guess :)
> >
> > 2017-03-20 7:40 GMT+01:00 Pine W :
> >
> > > Attempting to summon Chris Schilling over here from the other thread.
> (:
> > >
> > > I think that some kind of analysis about optimal use of consultations
> > > and surveys would be beneficial, and I'd welcome seeing something like
> > > that in the next Annual Plan. Perhaps there might even be a
> > > consultation or survey about consultations or surveys, which I know
> > > sounds ironic but may be helpful in figuring out how much is too much
> > > or too little, timing, locations, etc.
> > >
> > > Information management is a big deal. We have watchlists, email,
> > > social media channels, Echo, and lots of other tools, but even so --
> > > or perhaps because 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

[Peter Southwood]

Might it be useful to analyse the community before trying to get communication 
out of them? Then efforts can be directed to be more representative of the 
various parts. OK, I understand that to analyse them it needs some 
communication. But that is a specific and directed communication. Work out what 
might be useful to know and ask everyone.  Put a survey link on talk page for 
logged in users, and a banner  for IP users. We get this anyway for 
fundraising. Before going full scale, test the survey on a small group, to find 
out what is wrong with it, fix the worst problems, and be sure to allow 
comments and feedback.
Cheers,
Peter

-Original Message-
From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of 
Lodewijk
Sent: Monday, 20 March 2017 11:04 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

Hi Pine,

it's always easier of course to tell other people what they have to change, 
which is why I'm asking the opposite question too :) What can we change, on our 
end, to make communications easier for the WMF, for community members that want 
to reach out, for chapters and other affiliates. All these are having a hard 
time to get useful input from the community.

There seem very few generally accepted approaches to that:
- using some mailing list, or some kind of forum that serves a part of the 
community you think would be most relevant (such as this mailing list, the 
wikitech mailing list etc).
- Going all out and doing a full scale consultation/RfC with banners and 
everything. Gives you lots of comments.
- Doing a broad and translated approach through village pumps etc - gives you a 
broad reach over languages, but within those languages still reaches a specific 
part of the community.

Those methods are typically either very expensive, or not very effective.
And I'm only talking about getting input here, not even about 'informing'
everyone.

So what can we, as a community, change to facilitate better exchange of ideas, 
experiences and provide input?

Best
Lodewijk

PS: I apologize to the people who read this kind of email for the n'th time, 
it's not the first time I talk about this, I guess :)

2017-03-20 7:40 GMT+01:00 Pine W :

> Attempting to summon Chris Schilling over here from the other thread. (:
>
> I think that some kind of analysis about optimal use of consultations 
> and surveys would be beneficial, and I'd welcome seeing something like 
> that in the next Annual Plan. Perhaps there might even be a 
> consultation or survey about consultations or surveys, which I know 
> sounds ironic but may be helpful in figuring out how much is too much 
> or too little, timing, locations, etc.
>
> Information management is a big deal. We have watchlists, email, 
> social media channels, Echo, and lots of other tools, but even so -- 
> or perhaps because -- there are so many channels, it's easy to drown. 
> I imagine that holds true for both staff and community members, and 
> I'd welcome some initiatives to improve the situation. Perhaps someone 
> will have some ideas that they can submit to IdeaLab.
>
> Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

[Lodewijk]

Hi Pine,

it's always easier of course to tell other people what they have to change,
which is why I'm asking the opposite question too :) What can we change, on
our end, to make communications easier for the WMF, for community members
that want to reach out, for chapters and other affiliates. All these are
having a hard time to get useful input from the community.

There seem very few generally accepted approaches to that:
- using some mailing list, or some kind of forum that serves a part of the
community you think would be most relevant (such as this mailing list, the
wikitech mailing list etc).
- Going all out and doing a full scale consultation/RfC with banners and
everything. Gives you lots of comments.
- Doing a broad and translated approach through village pumps etc - gives
you a broad reach over languages, but within those languages still reaches
a specific part of the community.

Those methods are typically either very expensive, or not very effective.
And I'm only talking about getting input here, not even about 'informing'
everyone.

So what can we, as a community, change to facilitate better exchange of
ideas, experiences and provide input?

Best
Lodewijk

PS: I apologize to the people who read this kind of email for the n'th
time, it's not the first time I talk about this, I guess :)

2017-03-20 7:40 GMT+01:00 Pine W :

> Attempting to summon Chris Schilling over here from the other thread. (:
>
> I think that some kind of analysis about optimal use of consultations and
> surveys would be beneficial, and I'd welcome seeing something like that in
> the next Annual Plan. Perhaps there might even be a consultation or survey
> about consultations or surveys, which I know sounds ironic but may be
> helpful in figuring out how much is too much or too little, timing,
> locations, etc.
>
> Information management is a big deal. We have watchlists, email, social
> media channels, Echo, and lots of other tools, but even so -- or perhaps
> because -- there are so many channels, it's easy to drown. I imagine that
> holds true for both staff and community members, and I'd welcome some
> initiatives to improve the situation. Perhaps someone will have some ideas
> that they can submit to IdeaLab.
>
> Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

[Peter Southwood]

All surveys should have a feedback option at the end, That lets people comment 
on what was right or more often what was wrong with the survey. There is almost 
always something wrong with the questions and options for answers, which is 
annoying and frustrating as you know that the results will be distorted and 
there is no way of letting the surveyors know what the problems are.  A lot of 
feedback will be a load of rubbish too, but there will usually be something to 
learn from it. This also combines survey and consultation to some extent. 
Cheers,
Peter

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Pine W
Sent: Monday, 20 March 2017 8:40 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List; Chris Schilling
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

Attempting to summon Chris Schilling over here from the other thread. (:

I think that some kind of analysis about optimal use of consultations and 
surveys would be beneficial, and I'd welcome seeing something like that in the 
next Annual Plan. Perhaps there might even be a consultation or survey about 
consultations or surveys, which I know sounds ironic but may be helpful in 
figuring out how much is too much or too little, timing, locations, etc.

Information management is a big deal. We have watchlists, email, social media 
channels, Echo, and lots of other tools, but even so -- or perhaps because -- 
there are so many channels, it's easy to drown. I imagine that holds true for 
both staff and community members, and I'd welcome some initiatives to improve 
the situation. Perhaps someone will have some ideas that they can submit to 
IdeaLab.

Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
Would you be so kind and answer the question Lodewijk asked. We are all
aware that things are not perfect but what is it that can be done to
improve it?
Thanks,
GerardM

On 20 March 2017 at 10:58, Fæ  wrote:

> In practice what we (Wikimedians) see from WMF communications programmes is
> widely spread announcements and sometimes an anonymous survey, again widely
> spread. This is literally not 'communication', it is 'broadcasting'.
>
> For communication to be meaningful, your message must not only be sent to
> the right stakeholders, but it is essential for the communication to be
> two-way. This is why I find it especially frustrating to see generic posts
> from the WMF sent by bots with no named person being the contact point. At
> least with most emails sent to email lists, these are from a named person
> and community members can respond to it, often with later replies from a
> WMF employee.
>
> Fae
>
> On 20 Mar 2017 09:51, "Peter Southwood" 
> wrote:
>
> Might it be useful to analyse the community before trying to get
> communication out of them? Then efforts can be directed to be more
> representative of the various parts. OK, I understand that to analyse them
> it needs some communication. But that is a specific and directed
> communication. Work out what might be useful to know and ask everyone.  Put
> a survey link on talk page for logged in users, and a banner  for IP users.
> We get this anyway for fundraising. Before going full scale, test the
> survey on a small group, to find out what is wrong with it, fix the worst
> problems, and be sure to allow comments and feedback.
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> Behalf Of Lodewijk
> Sent: Monday, 20 March 2017 11:04 AM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communicating plans and consultations
>
> Hi Pine,
>
> it's always easier of course to tell other people what they have to change,
> which is why I'm asking the opposite question too :) What can we change, on
> our end, to make communications easier for the WMF, for community members
> that want to reach out, for chapters and other affiliates. All these are
> having a hard time to get useful input from the community.
>
> There seem very few generally accepted approaches to that:
> - using some mailing list, or some kind of forum that serves a part of the
> community you think would be most relevant (such as this mailing list, the
> wikitech mailing list etc).
> - Going all out and doing a full scale consultation/RfC with banners and
> everything. Gives you lots of comments.
> - Doing a broad and translated approach through village pumps etc - gives
> you a broad reach over languages, but within those languages still reaches
> a specific part of the community.
>
> Those methods are typically either very expensive, or not very effective.
> And I'm only talking about getting input here, not even about 'informing'
> everyone.
>
> So what can we, as a community, change to facilitate better exchange of
> ideas, experiences and provide input?
>
> Best
> Lodewijk
>
> PS: I apologize to the people who read this kind of email for the n'th
> time, it's not the first time I talk about this, I guess :)
>
> 2017-03-20 7:40 GMT+01:00 Pine W :
>
> > Attempting to summon Chris Schilling over here from the other thread. (:
> >
> > I think that some kind of analysis about optimal use of consultations
> > and surveys would be beneficial, and I'd welcome seeing something like
> > that in the next Annual Plan. Perhaps there might even be a
> > consultation or survey about consultations or surveys, which I know
> > sounds ironic but may be helpful in figuring out how much is too much
> > or too little, timing, locations, etc.
> >
> > Information management is a big deal. We have watchlists, email,
> > social media channels, Echo, and lots of other tools, but even so --
> > or perhaps because -- there are so many channels, it's easy to drown.
> > I imagine that holds true for both staff and community members, and
> > I'd welcome some initiatives to improve the situation. Perhaps someone
> > will have some ideas that they can submit to IdeaLab.
> >
> > Pine
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[Wikimedia-l] New project: stage on FakeNews and new Journalism

[Àlex Hinojo]

Hi all,

I would like to introduce you a new project: In collaboration with FABER
humanities residency, Amical Wikimedia is co-organizing a* onsite* stage.
We do an opencall to journalists, data scientists, sociologists and
humanists to meet during some days in a quite village and make a state of
the question on the fake news and new journalism. We would like to invite
residents to work on new directions that journalism is taking. We want to
outline, to describe and to explain the changes that have happened in this
area, to investigate why it is valid, to call it into question and to see
how we are affected by new forms of transmission and reproduction of
information.

Further info in this onepager
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4Y7QEmAClNcRk0tWjJNZnhJMk0

Apply here
http://faberresidency.com/%e2%80%8b1-may-15-may-projects-related-to-new-journalism/


FYI: The related costs of the project are asumed by FABER and local govs,
Amical collaborates in the project conceptualization and developement, but
we don't support it financially. Actually, this is a spin-off project of a
residency done during January 2017.
https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viquiprojecte:Faber_2017/en


I'm happy to giver further details of the project offlist if needed.

Best,
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New project: stage on FakeNews and new Journalism

[Anna Torres]

Thanks Alex!

For some reason I did not notice this detail. Thanks :) We are going to
share it with our community! As you said it is interesting to be involved.
We have participate in some discussions here in Argentina :)

Great job and great to see innovative proposals within the movement!!!

Hugs and keep in touch!!!



2017-03-20 14:05 GMT-03:00 Àlex Hinojo :

> Hi Anna, thanks for your kind words.
>
> As said in the one-pager, organisers don't fund flight:
>
> "Faber offers free accommodation and half-board (breakfast and dinner) for
> residents. There is also a fully-equipped kitchen at residents’ disposal in
> case they would like to prepare their own
> lunch. Faber does not cover any travel costs or obligatory health
> insurance. There is no per diem."
>
> Same here, there is an ongoing discussion about these topics, and as Amical
> we want to be an active member, facilitating the debate. We consider this
> collaboraiton project as an experiment, to innovate in ways to generate
> awareness on our strategic mission (sum of all knowledge to all in their
> own language).
>
> Best!
>
>
>
> El dl., 20 de març 2017 a les 17:56, Anna Torres ()
> va
> escriure:
>
> > Love it! It is an ongoing debate that we is also taking place in
> Argentina
> > so we are going to spread the word.
> >
> > Any facilities regarding flights? Just to have the full picture of the
> > activity!
> >
> > Thank you!!!
> >
> > 2017-03-20 13:29 GMT-03:00 Àlex Hinojo :
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I would like to introduce you a new project: In collaboration with
> FABER
> > > humanities residency, Amical Wikimedia is co-organizing a* onsite*
> stage.
> > > We do an opencall to journalists, data scientists, sociologists and
> > > humanists to meet during some days in a quite village and make a state
> of
> > > the question on the fake news and new journalism. We would like to
> invite
> > > residents to work on new directions that journalism is taking. We want
> to
> > > outline, to describe and to explain the changes that have happened in
> > this
> > > area, to investigate why it is valid, to call it into question and to
> see
> > > how we are affected by new forms of transmission and reproduction of
> > > information.
> > >
> > > Further info in this onepager
> > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4Y7QEmAClNcRk0tWjJNZnhJMk0
> > >
> > > Apply here
> > > http://faberresidency.com/%e2%80%8b1-may-15-may-projects-
> > > related-to-new-journalism/
> > >
> > >
> > > FYI: The related costs of the project are asumed by FABER and local
> govs,
> > > Amical collaborates in the project conceptualization and developement,
> > but
> > > we don't support it financially. Actually, this is a spin-off project
> of
> > a
> > > residency done during January 2017.
> > > https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viquiprojecte:Faber_2017/en
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm happy to giver further details of the project offlist if needed.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > --
> > > Àlex Hinojo
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New project: stage on FakeNews and new Journalism

[Anna Torres]

Love it! It is an ongoing debate that we is also taking place in Argentina
so we are going to spread the word.

Any facilities regarding flights? Just to have the full picture of the
activity!

Thank you!!!

2017-03-20 13:29 GMT-03:00 Àlex Hinojo :

> Hi all,
>
> I would like to introduce you a new project: In collaboration with FABER
> humanities residency, Amical Wikimedia is co-organizing a* onsite* stage.
> We do an opencall to journalists, data scientists, sociologists and
> humanists to meet during some days in a quite village and make a state of
> the question on the fake news and new journalism. We would like to invite
> residents to work on new directions that journalism is taking. We want to
> outline, to describe and to explain the changes that have happened in this
> area, to investigate why it is valid, to call it into question and to see
> how we are affected by new forms of transmission and reproduction of
> information.
>
> Further info in this onepager
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4Y7QEmAClNcRk0tWjJNZnhJMk0
>
> Apply here
> http://faberresidency.com/%e2%80%8b1-may-15-may-projects-
> related-to-new-journalism/
>
>
> FYI: The related costs of the project are asumed by FABER and local govs,
> Amical collaborates in the project conceptualization and developement, but
> we don't support it financially. Actually, this is a spin-off project of a
> residency done during January 2017.
> https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viquiprojecte:Faber_2017/en
>
>
> I'm happy to giver further details of the project offlist if needed.
>
> Best,
> --
> Àlex Hinojo
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New project: stage on FakeNews and new Journalism

[Àlex Hinojo]

Hi Anna, thanks for your kind words.

As said in the one-pager, organisers don't fund flight:

"Faber offers free accommodation and half-board (breakfast and dinner) for
residents. There is also a fully-equipped kitchen at residents’ disposal in
case they would like to prepare their own
lunch. Faber does not cover any travel costs or obligatory health
insurance. There is no per diem."

Same here, there is an ongoing discussion about these topics, and as Amical
we want to be an active member, facilitating the debate. We consider this
collaboraiton project as an experiment, to innovate in ways to generate
awareness on our strategic mission (sum of all knowledge to all in their
own language).

Best!



El dl., 20 de març 2017 a les 17:56, Anna Torres () va
escriure:

> Love it! It is an ongoing debate that we is also taking place in Argentina
> so we are going to spread the word.
>
> Any facilities regarding flights? Just to have the full picture of the
> activity!
>
> Thank you!!!
>
> 2017-03-20 13:29 GMT-03:00 Àlex Hinojo :
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I would like to introduce you a new project: In collaboration with FABER
> > humanities residency, Amical Wikimedia is co-organizing a* onsite* stage.
> > We do an opencall to journalists, data scientists, sociologists and
> > humanists to meet during some days in a quite village and make a state of
> > the question on the fake news and new journalism. We would like to invite
> > residents to work on new directions that journalism is taking. We want to
> > outline, to describe and to explain the changes that have happened in
> this
> > area, to investigate why it is valid, to call it into question and to see
> > how we are affected by new forms of transmission and reproduction of
> > information.
> >
> > Further info in this onepager
> > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4Y7QEmAClNcRk0tWjJNZnhJMk0
> >
> > Apply here
> > http://faberresidency.com/%e2%80%8b1-may-15-may-projects-
> > related-to-new-journalism/
> >
> >
> > FYI: The related costs of the project are asumed by FABER and local govs,
> > Amical collaborates in the project conceptualization and developement,
> but
> > we don't support it financially. Actually, this is a spin-off project of
> a
> > residency done during January 2017.
> > https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viquiprojecte:Faber_2017/en
> >
> >
> > I'm happy to giver further details of the project offlist if needed.
> >
> > Best,
> > --
> > Àlex Hinojo
> > ___
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> *A.C. Wikimedia Argentina*
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