Re: [Wikimedia-l] Venture Beyond

2014-06-02 Thread Nurunnaby Chowdhury
+1 Lila.. -- Nurunnaby Chowdhury | @nhasive Sysop, Bengali Wikipedia | User: Nhasive Member, IEG, WMF Sent from my iPhone device On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Jasper Deng wrote: > If only you made this an actual verbal speech! That's how inspiring I find > this statement :). > > > On Mon, J

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ASBS results

2014-06-02 Thread Carlos M. Colina
Congratulations to Frieda and Patricio!  All the best!! M. Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: Chris Keating Date: 03/06/2014 09:31 (GMT+02:00) To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] ASBS results Dear all, On behalf of the election facilitator

[Wikimedia-l] ASBS results

2014-06-02 Thread Chris Keating
Dear all, On behalf of the election facilitators I would like to let you know the results of the Affiliate Selected Board Seats election. The candidates who won the election are Patricio Lorente and Frieda Brioschi, and therefore the movement affiliates recommend the Board appoints them. There w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Venture Beyond

2014-06-02 Thread Jasper Deng
If only you made this an actual verbal speech! That's how inspiring I find this statement :). On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Vishnu wrote: > +1 Lila. Best wishes. > > Vishnu > > > On Tuesday 03 June 2014 10:52 AM, Lila Tretikov wrote: > >> A month ago, I met some of you for the first time at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Venture Beyond

2014-06-02 Thread Vishnu
+1 Lila. Best wishes. Vishnu On Tuesday 03 June 2014 10:52 AM, Lila Tretikov wrote: A month ago, I met some of you for the first time at the WMF’s monthly metrics meeting. Officially, today is my first day as Executive Director of the Foundation. In practice, it’s a day like many others: Today

[Wikimedia-l] Venture Beyond

2014-06-02 Thread Lila Tretikov
A month ago, I met some of you for the first time at the WMF’s monthly metrics meeting. Officially, today is my first day as Executive Director of the Foundation. In practice, it’s a day like many others: Today and in the future, we’ll keep working together towards our mission. When I first starte

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-06-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi. The core mission of our projects is to share in the sum of all knowledge. Gender gap and number of long time editors are, while important, a side show. This was a conference with a specific public in mind and all about chapters and their best practices. It is equally a side show. For diversit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-06-02 Thread Russavia
Gerard, On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 1:46 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Russavia, > Do you remember like me reading why these people came to this conference? > In that light, do your remarks provide us with any connection to these > objectives? .Do you know the topics of the presentations given? Do you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy

2014-06-02 Thread Michael Jahn
> > > I see. Presenting your statement in that context, as though it was your > comment on that particular content, was not quite appropriate. It made it > sound as though you were saying the Wikimedia Foundation in the US was > actively curating that content, rather than an international community

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy

2014-06-02 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Michael Jahn wrote: > Being the spokesperson, the statement is by and large correct, although not > given in this context but as a reply to a content-related question from one > day earlier. It was used in the linked news source articel, to which the > teacher's a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [PRESS RELEASE] Airtel Offers Nigerians Free Access to Wikipedia

2014-06-02 Thread Jens Best
@Federico For Telcos making a deal with Wikipedia isn't about money, it's about bringing people to use their data-services. The moment you wanna check one of the ressources linked in WP you have to pay for it. (see also example with Twitter/external Links from South Africa) Therefore coops with W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy

2014-06-02 Thread Michael Jahn
Being the spokesperson, the statement is by and large correct, although not given in this context but as a reply to a content-related question from one day earlier. It was used in the linked news source articel, to which the teacher's association reacted within an hour. As I've written elsewhere, t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [PRESS RELEASE] Airtel Offers Nigerians Free Access to Wikipedia

2014-06-02 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
John Mark Vandenberg, 30/05/2014 03:25: If not, the Telcos are making a loss. Does someone know if costs for Wikipedia zero-rating have been big enough for any ISP to make it to a line or footnote in their financial statements? Nemo ___ Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Child Protection and Harassment Policy

2014-06-02 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Returning briefly to NSFW content on Wikimedia sites, there has been some press coverage in Germany these past couple of days: * http://www.news4teachers.de/2014/06/jugendgefaehrdend-porno-links-in-wikipedia/ * http://www.news4teachers.de/2014/06/die-porno-links-in-wikipedia-ein-politischer-skand

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-02 Thread ???
On 02/06/2014 21:14, Mike Godwin wrote: Google has a clear purpose too, and it was no defense. Plus, there is a public-interest argument in favor of eschewing the erasure of true, accurate public data that happens to be old. There is nothing in the judgement about erasing "true, acaccurate pu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Thank you Sue Gardner

2014-06-02 Thread Milos Rancic
I want to say basically the same what Jan-Bart and Bishakha said, but from different perspective. The first three years of my involvement in the global community passed in constant worries about the future of Wikimedia. Options like "we don't have enough money for the bills" were the constant thre

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-02 Thread Chris Keating
> > > > I don't believe Wikipedia could be a data controller as it has no legal > > personality, and legal personality is quite difficult to acquire when you > > set out to avoid acquiring it. > > On this point I must disagree. > I'd be interested to hear why :-) I think also though that if edito

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-06-02 Thread Richard Symonds
In short, because that's what UK charity best practice, outlined in the SORP, says we have to do when preparing accounts. Every charity in the UK does this because our regulator believes it's the most transparent way of doing things. Basically, if people go as trustees, it's a governance cost. Oth

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-02 Thread Todd Allen
Would WMF, being in the US, need to worry about this to any greater degree than it worries about, say, Chinese publishing restrictions, or UK "superinjunctions"? On Jun 2, 2014 2:15 PM, "Mike Godwin" wrote: > Chris writes: > > > If as a private citizen in the EU you construct a card-file index of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-02 Thread Mike Godwin
Chris writes: > If as a private citizen in the EU you construct a card-file index of > newspaper cuttings (or any other kind of database) including personal > details about a group of individuals, you are becoming both a "data > processor" and "data controller". I think that's the plain meaning o

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Signpost is (sort of) published

2014-06-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 2 June 2014 19:39, Ed Erhart wrote: > There is one person in charge of making the final calls of every issue—me. This is troubling, Wikipedia is supposed to be an open, community-driven initiative. We've seen problems in the past with single-person gatekeepers; at TFA, for instance. Not tha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-06-02 Thread Michael Peel
On 2 Jun 2014, at 13:27, Jon Davies wrote: > So for trustee expenses: not all of the board went as trustees, as two (at > least) were invited as speakers - reporting that as a trustee cost wouldn't > be accurate. As to staff – I attended as the Chief Executive, but the other > two staff were als

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Applying the Right to Be Forgotten to Wikipedia (Was Re: Right to be forgotten)

2014-06-02 Thread Chris Keating
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Mike Godwin wrote: > Chris writes: > > > As I understand it, the "right to be forgotten" will only affect the > > discoverability of content, rather than existence of content. > > > > So if we rely on a source which says that person X did Y many years ago, > > and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Thank you...

2014-06-02 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 02/06/2014 20:28, Ting Chen a écrit : Hello dear all, one of the most memorable moment in my work together with Sue was one evening in October 2011. As some of you may remember that the years 2010 to 2012 were especially difficult years in relationship between the Foundation and the chapte

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Thank you Sue Gardner

2014-06-02 Thread Itzik Edri
I want to join and say also, thank you Sue! Jan-Bart already mentioned your huge contribution to the movement, but I want to add one more thing: I know many professional managers. But to find people who are great mangers in a big organizations who are also warm and hearty for other, who don't put t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine's anniversary

2014-06-02 Thread Amy Vossbrinck
Very nice work!! Take good care, Amy On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Cristian Consonni wrote: > > Today, our organization celebrates anniversary - 5 years from the date > > of creation. > > > > Exactly 5 years ago, on May 31, 2009, in Kyiv was held the constituent > > meeting, which approv

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Signpost is (sort of) published

2014-06-02 Thread Ed Erhart
Hi Andy, et.al., There is one person in charge of making the final calls of every issue—me. I'm also responsible for publishing, which is done by a script on Wikimedia Labs and an accompanying bot, and is password-protected so that it isn't vandalized. It was an unfortunate error that I did not gi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Thank you Sue Gardner

2014-06-02 Thread Ting Chen
Hello dear all, one of the most memorable moment in my work together with Sue was one evening in October 2011. As some of you may remember that the years 2010 to 2012 were especially difficult years in relationship between the Foundation and the chapters. The Foundation experimented a few app

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-06-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Russavia, Do you remember like me reading why these people came to this conference? In that light, do your remarks provide us with any connection to these objectives? .Do you know the topics of the presentations given? Do you know the topics of the conversations that happened inside and outside the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-06-02 Thread Russavia
Jon, On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Jon Davies wrote: > £2600, our current estimate, seems good value. Some bloke is charging me > £120 to come and tell me my dishwasher is broken > And I can tell you that the conference hasn't resulted in a single new long-term editor on our projects, did

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] [PRESS RELEASE] Airtel Offers Nigerians Free Access to Wikipedia

2014-06-02 Thread Jens Best
Hi, Thanks to Osmar and Marco for getting some more detailed background information on the developments in Chile. I think that the points Osmar made can lay the groundwork for a path that unite the important principle of net neutrality with the free access to knowledge/education stuff like Wikipe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine's anniversary

2014-06-02 Thread Cristian Consonni
> Today, our organization celebrates anniversary - 5 years from the date > of creation. > > Exactly 5 years ago, on May 31, 2009, in Kyiv was held the constituent > meeting, which approved the bylaws and elected its first Board of the new > organization, known as Wikimedia Ukraine. > > Our communit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine's anniversary

2014-06-02 Thread Rodrigo Padula
Congratulations my friends!! I had the opportunity to work with our fellows from Ukraine for the Wiki Loves Earth Brasil and it was a really great experience!! We received all support and guidance to organize a really successful contest! Keep rocking!! Best regards! Rodrigo Padula Education Pr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia movement affiliates liaisons

2014-06-02 Thread Bence Damokos
Hi Nathan, There is a shortish overview at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Reports/2012#State_of_affiliates . In general, we very rarely reject applications outright publicly -- more often than not, an application will run until we have worked with the group to the point t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-06-02 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Jon Davies wrote: > £2600 for everything. Got to get on! Don't want to get accused of hogging > the lists! > > Thanks Jon! Sorry for my confusion, appreciate the response. (And its a new month, and a new posting limit!). ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-06-02 Thread Jon Davies
£2600 for everything. Got to get on! Don't want to get accused of hogging the lists! On 2 June 2014 14:48, Nathan wrote: > On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Jon Davies > wrote: > > > £2600, our current estimate, seems good value. Some bloke is charging me > > £120 to come and tell me my dishwas

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-06-02 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Jon Davies wrote: > £2600, our current estimate, seems good value. Some bloke is charging me > £120 to come and tell me my dishwasher is broken > > > Perhaps I misunderstood - £2600 is the total for all WMUK expenditures for all attendees? Or just your own? (An

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia movement affiliates liaisons

2014-06-02 Thread Nathan
Does AffCom report on the status or disposition of applications for affiliation? Is there a grid of pending applications, prior applications and outcomes (with explanations, if negative)? That would be a handy way of increasing transparency for this process for both participants and community obser

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-06-02 Thread Jon Davies
£2600, our current estimate, seems good value. Some bloke is charging me £120 to come and tell me my dishwasher is broken On 2 June 2014 14:35, Nathan wrote: > On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Jon Davies > wrote: > > > There is no intention to hide the costs to the chapter of the Chapter's

[Wikimedia-l] Two special workshops before Wikimania.

2014-06-02 Thread Jon Davies
Hello fellow Wikimedians, *Two special events just before Wikimania aimed at spreading good practice.* *Governance workshop 7th of August.* Based on the successful board training workshop held in March this year, we are organising another such workshop, this time coinciding with Wikimania here

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-06-02 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Jon Davies wrote: > There is no intention to hide the costs to the chapter of the Chapter's > involvement in the Wikiconference Berlin, but it is not a simple > calculation. > > One person was asking for trustee expenses, others are asking how much we > (WMUK) spen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Thank you Sue Gardner

2014-06-02 Thread Bishakha Datta
Just adding my personal thanks, Sue. You've taken the Foundation from infancy to maturity - one of the hardest spins in the life cycle of an organization and one of the most enduring legacies any leader can leave behind. You've literally laid the foundation for the Foundation. :) It's been an ext

Re: [Wikimedia-l] So now the Wikipedia comes in handy to 'vouch' for 419 scams

2014-06-02 Thread Austin Hair
>> I, Liliane Bettencourt Authenticate this email of 3.5M USD grant to >> you, please view my >> link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liliane_Bettencourt{{fv}} and Email me on >> bettencourtlilian...@rogers.com for more info FTFY ___ Wikimedia-l ma

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reset the Internet

2014-06-02 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Moiz Syed, 02/06/2014 04:53: I see EFF, Reddit, FSF in the list of supporting organizations. Why isn't Wikimedia/Wikipedia part of this? «Websites: Pledge to add SSL, HSTS & PFS protection this year; it matters!» None of these is in the works. https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/HTTPS/Future_w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cost of Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-06-02 Thread Jon Davies
There is no intention to hide the costs to the chapter of the Chapter's involvement in the Wikiconference Berlin, but it is not a simple calculation. One person was asking for trustee expenses, others are asking how much we (WMUK) spent on the entire conference (including staff, volunteers, speake

Re: [Wikimedia-l] So now the Wikipedia comes in handy to 'vouch' for 419 scams

2014-06-02 Thread MF-Warburg
Sure sure, very credible. Am 02.06.2014 12:58 schrieb "Rui Correia" : > I expect to see an increase in these once the idea spreads > > Rui > > -- > > *From:* Jourdan Hilaire > > *Sent:* Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:00 AM > > *To:* Jourdan Hilaire > > *Subject:* Grants > > >

[Wikimedia-l] So now the Wikipedia comes in handy to 'vouch' for 419 scams

2014-06-02 Thread Rui Correia
I expect to see an increase in these once the idea spreads Rui -- > *From:* Jourdan Hilaire > *Sent:* Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:00 AM > *To:* Jourdan Hilaire > *Subject:* Grants > > I, Liliane Bettencourt Authenticate this email of 3.5M USD grant to you, > please

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reset the Internet

2014-06-02 Thread Rui Correia
Hi Is this what is supposed to happen when you sign it? {"data":{"success":true}} Some coding error? Rui 2014-06-02 9:42 GMT+02:00 Richard Symonds : > I think that a part of it is putting up another banner, to advertise > privacy tools. That would presumably require community support and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reset the Internet

2014-06-02 Thread Richard Symonds
I think that a part of it is putting up another banner, to advertise privacy tools. That would presumably require community support and discussion before it could be done... On 2 Jun 2014 03:53, "Moiz Syed" wrote: > https://www.resetthenet.org/ > > I see EFF, Reddit, FSF in the list of supporting