[Wikimedia-l] Board meeting January 30

2016-01-29 Thread Pete Forsyth
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=WMF_Board_meetings=15288840=15052206 Agenda: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Board_meetings/2016-01-30 -Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]] ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board meeting January 30

2016-01-29 Thread Chris Keating
> I am sure the agenda was prepared well in advance and before the events of > the last 48 hours; however, it should be noted that there are now *two* > open board seats (one community-selected, one Board-appointed). > Since the agenda is on Meta, I have been bold and changed "seat" to "seats"

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Advisory board

2016-01-29 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi, restructuring the Advisory Board has been on my mind for a while - I've actually put it to the list of initial priorities I set for myself as a Board member. I hope we'll be able to zero in on this issue once the higher priority stuff stops

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board meeting January 30

2016-01-29 Thread Risker
I am sure the agenda was prepared well in advance and before the events of the last 48 hours; however, it should be noted that there are now *two* open board seats (one community-selected, one Board-appointed). Risker/Anne On 29 January 2016 at 09:01, Pete Forsyth wrote:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Advisory board

2016-01-29 Thread Andreas Kolbe
I've never understood why corporate appointees like Guy Kawasaki or the just-departed Arnnon Geshuri are voting board members, instead of being on the Advisory Board. The board structure needs to be revised, and brought in line with basic democratic principles. Andreas

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Advisory board

2016-01-29 Thread Anthony Cole
Excellent. Bearing in mind Kat's points, you might consider appointing experts for the duration of specific projects or until predetermined goals have been achieved, or for fixed periods with the clear prior understanding that renewall is unlikely. (You can always offer renewal at the end of a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Italia recognized as OpenStreetMap chapter

2016-01-29 Thread Milos Rancic
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:36 PM, Laurentius wrote: > after a long process, today Wikimedia Italia has been officially > recognized as the Italian OpenStreetMap chapter! This is great and shows the uniqueness and general value of the Wikimedia movement! It shows that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Milos Rancic
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Another mistake. A lot has happened over the past few weeks. The community > should have been given a voice, in light of vast changes in circumstances > since last May. > > María, too, might have felt better about joining

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Tanvir Rahman
It's good to have María back, indeed. Congratulations and welcome back, María! T. Tanvir Rahman Wikitanvir ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Ziko, The advantages and disadvantages are articulated here, though I have to say I wasn't aware of it until Patricio posted it just now.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Ad Huikeshoven
Say welcome to María on https://discourse.wmflabs.org/t/appointment-of-maria-sefidari-to-wikimedia-foundation-board/32 or just like the post there. Ad Huikeshoven Op 29 jan. 2016 16:27 schreef "Patricio Lorente" : > Dear all, > > > I am happy to announce the Board

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Another mistake. A lot has happened over the past few weeks. The community should have been given a voice, in light of vast changes in circumstances since last May. María, too, might have felt better about joining the board with a clear endorsement from the community – an endorsement given now,

[Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Patricio Lorente
Dear all, I am happy to announce the Board intends to fill the open community Trustee seat at our meeting this weekend. On Saturday, María Sefidari will accept an appointment to the Board of Trustees, stepping into the third community-nominated seat. The appointment will last the remainder of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Dear Patricio, Thank you for the information. I would be interested in an elaboration of the advantages and disadvantages of a community election, though. Kind regards Ziko 2016-01-29 16:27 GMT+01:00 Patricio Lorente : > Dear all, > > > I am happy to announce the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Richard Symonds
Congratulations María! It's good to see you on the board. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Galileo Vidoni
Congratulations, María! I am sure your experience, sensibility and wisdom will be of great help for the Foundation at this difficult time. Galileo On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > Dear Patricio, > > Thank you for the information. I would be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Josh Lim
I am happy to see María returning to the Board, though I wish it took place under happier circumstances. I have confidence in her wisdom and her ability to help steer us out of this mess, though I certainly hope that she’ll be able to commit to whatever it is that James was fighting for while

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > If I remember well (not willing to check), Maria got the most of the > votes on the elections (more than any of the elected members), which > means that it's fair that she becomes a Board member. > > that is correct.

[Wikimedia-l] On boards and good governance: The Bottom Line

2016-01-29 Thread Andy Mabbett
Given recent issues, I found last night's episode of 'The Bottom Line': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bottom_Line_%28radio_programme%29 a BBC Radio 4 discussion & BBC World Service programme, most interesting. Although its topic was the role of boards of directors of commercial

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Salvador A
¡Felicidades María! Happy to see you again in the Board. Thanks to the BoT and to the 2015 Elections Committee for all the efforts solving this problem. The diversity inside the Board gets many benefits with this appointment. I trust you María! 2016-01-29 9:44 GMT-06:00 Galileo Vidoni

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Chandres Wikipedia
Thanks Patricio, There was many solution to the situation and I personally felt the board choose one of the less bad ;-) charles > Le 29 janv. 2016 à 16:27, Patricio Lorente a > écrit : > > Dear all, > > > I am happy to announce the Board intends to fill the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Osmar Valdebenito
Congratulations María! I'm sure that her experience and support from the community (given she had the most favourable votes in the election a few months ago) will be important to bring the Board back on track after so many unfortunate decisions in the past weeks. 2016-01-29 13:15 GMT-03:00 Ad

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Vituzzu
Simplest and wisest solution on both short and medium term. Vito Il 29/01/2016 16:27, Patricio Lorente ha scritto: Dear all, I am happy to announce the Board intends to fill the open community Trustee seat at our meeting this weekend. On Saturday, María Sefidari will accept an appointment to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Mardetanha
It is good to see her back on board again, Maria Khosh Umadi (welcome back in Farsi) Mardetanha On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > > > If I remember well (not willing to

[Wikimedia-l] Voting formula was Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Anders Wennersten
Actually the formula used (S/S+O) is from a ranking point identical to (S-O/S+O) (=(S-O)/(Total-Neutral). And the result would have been different if the formula (S-O)/Total had been used (Maria would have been in). So in some ways it was the Neutral votes who decided, or rather that the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 2016-01-29 17:56, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: If I remember well (not willing to check), Maria got the most of the votes on the elections (more than any of the elected members), which means that it's fair that she

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > Whereas this is a correct statement, it is irrelevant. The voters voted > knowing that only support votes count. If the system were different, they > could have voted differently. > > Sure, and with many alternative

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Sydney Poore
Congratulations, María. In a perfect world, this seat would be confirmed with a community election. But, the circumstances as they are now, selecting her is a reasonable decision and one that I support. The larger conversation about WMF annual plan and strategy, the Board elections and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Nathan
Thanks Maria for agreeing to join the Board in this manner and at this time. On the subject of advantages vs. disadvantages... I imagine one of the most important is that a new election may have seen the community elect James Heilman again, requiring the board to publicly pass over him in favor

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Sydney Poore
I agree. And most importantly, I don't think that the results of the last election show that the community has a lack of confidence in her returning to the Board. Sydney Sydney Poore User:FloNight Wikipedian in Residence at Cochrane Collaboration On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Dariusz

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Harassment Survey - Results Report

2016-01-29 Thread Lila Tretikov
Patrick, Thank you for posting this -- excellent work done by our team and deep engagement with the community. I encourage everyone to review as we continue to assess best ways to support healthy and safe Wikimedia environment for all our contributors and readers. Lila On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-01-29 Thread Lila Tretikov
Hi Anthony, I know this request was for the Board, but I took time to explain as much as I could about the context of this grant and the work it funds as well as to answer as many questions as possible that I have seen. I realize many people a curious about what it actually funds, so you will

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Harassment Survey - Results Report

2016-01-29 Thread SarahSV
Patrick, I also want to thank you and the team for having done this work. It's extremely interesting and informative, and I think it will be very helpful moving forward. Sarah On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Lila Tretikov wrote: > Patrick, > > Thank you for posting this

[Wikimedia-l] WMF Advisory board

2016-01-29 Thread Uwe Herzke
I fully subscribe to that notion. The board has to be equipped with members, who are primarily selected for their adherence with the core values of the Wikiverse, the five pillars[1]. The WMF is not, and should never be, anything like a corporation, it's an educational charitable non-profit NGO.

[Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Tomasz W. Kozlowski
Yet another hugely surprising decision from the Board, I’m sorry to say. Considering the results of the 2015 May Board elections, I think it fair to say that María’s appointment to the Board lacks any community legitimacy whatsoever. As a then-active member of the Board of Trustees, Maria stood

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Harassment Survey - Results Report

2016-01-29 Thread Sam Klein
Thanks Patrick, a wonderful first step. For future updates, I hope you can find ways to add data from automated analysis of interactions, like the League of Legends example Toby shared a few months back. Sam On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Patrick Earley wrote: > Hello

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-01-29 Thread SarahSV
Lila, thank you for posting this. I have no technical background, so I only have a limited understanding of how the Discovery project works. But as an editor and reader I've been frustrated by the limitations of Wikipedia search. Even things that I know are there, because I added them myself, are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-01-29 Thread Lila Tretikov
Thank you, Sarah for an excellent question. Sometimes I compare Wikimedia with an iceberg, only a small portion is visible. When we started investigating this problem we found out that nearly 30% of searches on Wikipedia return no results at all. That motivated us to dig deeper. Since then

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Changes in the Board

2016-01-29 Thread Lila Tretikov
Hi Josh, I agree there are solid improvements to be made with respect to recruiting of our trustees, and with partnering with our community. Perhaps the election committee can play a role in checking out the finalists, for example. On-boarding trustees and leadership is a critical process,

[Wikimedia-l] Proposed change to Metrics schedule

2016-01-29 Thread Lila Tretikov
Hi all, We’re proposing to change the schedule of the Foundation’s monthly public Metrics meeting. We plan to move the meeting to the final Thursday of each month, in order to better align these important presentations with the Foundation’s regular data production cycles. This will result in a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Eduardo Testart
María, Congratulations for your appointment! Cheers! On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 7:17 PM, Sam Klein wrote: > Thank you, Patricio & María. > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote: > > > Appointing María to the vacant seat is the best

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Sam Klein
Thank you, Patricio & María. On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote: > Appointing María to the vacant seat is the best decision in the > circumstances IMO. Not only does she come with strong "community seat" > legitimacy as the person who came 'next' in the

[Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Day events: Share your photos!

2016-01-29 Thread Joe Sutherland
Hello all, It's now two weeks since Wikipedia Day, marking a global celebration of the birth of the Wikimedia movement fifteen years ago. Almost 150 events, parties and gatherings were listed on the Wikipedia 15 page on Meta to take place over the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Jens Best
Patricio writes: "*we **have important issues to address in the near future.*" Does that mean: "So, we don't want to be disturbed by maybe another 'asking the wrong questions'-guy we again have then to get rid of in the process by "losing trust in him". We'll better stick to people from who we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Italia recognized as OpenStreetMap chapter

2016-01-29 Thread ramzymuliawan
Congratulations for the Italian community! Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: Laurentius Date: 29/01/2016 05:36 (GMT+07:00) To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Italia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Advisory board

2016-01-29 Thread Anthony Cole
Andreas, yes. We have a limited number of voting trustees. The affiliates and the community throw up well-respected voting trustees with a lot of chapter and project experience, but we're not getting the diversity or range of experience we need from them. When it comes to selecting voting members

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Anthony Cole
Welcome back Maria. Recent events have shed a much-needed bright light on the board, and it would have been good to hold a community election in that light. We do have a limited volunteer capacity to manage elections, though, and I can understand the desire not to impose too much on volunteer

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Todd Allen
So, why not make the best of both worlds? If you need another Trustee immediately, well...I don't really think that, you have a quorum without it. And an appointed trustee who lost a community election is not a community elected trustee. It is insulting to say that they are. James Heilman was the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On boards and good governance: The Bottom Line

2016-01-29 Thread Anthony Cole
That was enlightening. Thank you Andy. Anthony Cole On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:49 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > Given recent issues, I found last night's episode of 'The Bottom Line': > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bottom_Line_%28radio_programme%29 > > a BBC

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Adam Wight
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 6:09 PM Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote: > Considering the results of the 2015 May Board elections, I think it fair > to say that María’s appointment to the Board lacks any community legitimacy > whatsoever. I have to disagree with this statement.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Can we see the Knight grant application and grant offer?

2016-01-29 Thread Anthony Cole
Thank you Lila. That's very clear, and I think it's a worthwhile project, exactly in line with our shared vision. Anthony Cole On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Lila Tretikov wrote: > Thank you, Sarah for an excellent question. Sometimes I compare Wikimedia > with an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voting formula was Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Adam Wight
I found that the "support percentage" formula S/(S+O) fails some important criteria for voting systems, for example it gives more weight to a vote for minor candidates, which violates the one person, one vote principle among others. "Net support" (S-O) is equally obscure and problematic. My

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Steinsplitter Wiki
Looks like a voting has been avoided... :/ ... but María Sefidari is a good decision :-). Congrats. > From: mardetanha.w...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 20:33:46 +0330 > To: dar...@alk.edu.pl; wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l]Appointment of María Sefidari to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Appointment of María Sefidari to Wikimedia Foundation Board

2016-01-29 Thread Liam Wyatt
Congratulations María on your return to the Board - or commiserations depending on your perspective! Appointing María to the vacant seat is the best decision in the circumstances IMO. Not only does she come with strong "community seat" legitimacy as the person who came 'next' in the quite-recent

[Wikimedia-l] 2015 Harassment Survey - Results Report

2016-01-29 Thread Patrick Earley
Hello all, The preliminary report of the results of the 2015 Harassment survey is now available on Commons, as linked from Meta.[1] This is the first version of our analysis of the results, and while it is nearly completed, it will be amended and updated within a week as we finish developing it.