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Thanks Mario - indeed it seems to be a bit random, maybe there was an
update recently- on Hungarian Wikipedia as an anon I today see an edit
button but then it tells me I am blocked (it doesn't give any real
explanations, but at least the link to contact the stewards goes directly
to the contact fo
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Thank you for sharing the link to the recording, unfortunately I could not
follow it live.
I am reassured by the open approach and speed taken to transparently
address the issue and hope that the commitments promised will be followed
through. With the high turnover at the WMF and many leadership po
Dear all,
At its General Meeting on 21 November, Wikimedia Hungary has elected a new
board as follows:
- Péter Gervai (grin), president (reelected)
- Bence Damokos, executive vice-president (reelected)
- Balázs Viczián (Vince), financial vice-president (reelected)
- Anna Sárközy
The price really depends on the project selected and can vary from less
than a dollar to close to $20 per tonne, and the cheaper projects do not
necessarily have less of an impact (more likely they have fewer levels of
independent verification).
Do note that apart from the company recommended on t
ose articles? If that doesn’t make a difference, then we have
> to answer a rather more fundamental question about our impact on the world.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> > On 11 Oct 2019, at 22:27, Bence Damokos wrote:
> >
> > In case it is interesting, for the tenders at
In case it is interesting, for the tenders at my workplace that require
offsetting, we include this requirement:
"
Carbon offsetting will be achieved by means of projects of the following
type: CDM (Clean Development Mechanism), JI (Joint Implementation) or VER
(Voluntary Emissions Reduction), all
In fact, there are countless offset projects in the $1-$15/tonne range, as
well: https://offset.climateneutralnow.org/allprojects
The total offsetting budget would not need to be too enourmous, yet it
could be impactful.
Best regards,
Bence
On Mon, 23 Sep 2019, 18:28 Henry Wood, wrote:
> Surel
sically, if we would explain to the man of street, why the community
> should continue to contribute on volunteering basis if some activities
> are paid? The reason that there are unprivileged members is weak in my
> opinion.
>
> This is a distortion itself.
>
> On 25/08/2019 12
p.
> >
> > best,
> >
> > dj
> >
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I think it is important that the WMF is taking the question of harassment
seriously.
If the community processes are not adequate, it is not an incorrect
response to take direct action to protect the individuals that are being
harassed. Ideally, community processes should be improved and WMF can giv
Dear Pine,
Just as a thought experiment try to think through how your proposal would
work for an all-volunteer organisation:
A small group of volunteers starts some programme, and at the same time
they hire a contractor (issue an ad, check CVs, hold interviews, draw up a
contract, monitor and pay
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Thanks Lila for posting this.
Just as a courtesy to those who follow the topic here on the mailing list,
can you please send an update to this list whenever there is new content on
the page, or at least when there are significant changes?
Best regards,
Bence
2016-02-17 18:40 GMT+01:00 Lila Tretik
Apologies for the thankspam. :)
Congratulations to all the newly appointed members.
And indeed a huge thank you to Greg for his dedicated work on the committee
in the past years, and Josh for his outreach efforts and work over the
years.
Best regards,
Bence
2016-01-24 20:11 GMT+01:00 Lodewijk :
My first guess would be that the company is mentioned as a way to notify
users that they will be sending data to an outside company if they click on
the link (but the text you quote is not that clear on the privacy aspect
here).
Best regards,
Bence
2015-11-06 12:33 GMT+01:00 Itzik - Wikimedia Isr
Hi Pine,
There is a new committee proposed for these grants (see the second point of
the summary). FDC members are not eligible for the new committee, but I
guess GAC members could join and volunteer some more of their time :)
Best regards,
Bence
2015-09-30 21:48 GMT+02:00 Pine W :
> Hi Winifre
I found the same issue. The best thing to do is to send a letter to the
unsubscribe address from your various adresses (change the from field in
Gmail), and it should do it. (Doesn't work for the "opt out" option for
resubscribing.)
Best regards,
Bence
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Cristian Co
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Jane Darnell wrote:
> Nope. Gendergap is about the gap in female participation, not in
> female-related topics.
>
I would say it is both, but in either case this would be important to
define if that is the criteria on which to solicit proposals. (The vision
of Wik
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Michael Snow
wrote:
> On 11/30/2014 10:19 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
>
>> Michael Snow, 30/11/2014 01:03:
>>
>>> One avenue for fraud that's facilitated by posting account numbers is
>>> small payment fraud, usually involving stolen credit cards.
>>> [...
Hi Pine,
We are actively following the case of Cascadia Wikimedians to see whether
we can facilitate the signing of the user group agreement between the user
group and WMFLegal (the group's recognition has been approved by AffCom in
September -- apologies in any delays you have experienced up to t
I can see that people who are (also/only/additionally) part of different
interpretations of the word Wikimedia might feel excluded by the use of the
name by a subset of people who also make up a valid constellation under the
name Wikimedia. I cannot tell if this feeling involves the small number of
his name for the next
> cycle... This is the perfect opportunity to address what is, you must
> admit, a minor concern easily solved.
>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Bence Damokos wrote:
>
> > I believe names and how we treat them both hold great power and tell a
>
I believe names and how we treat them both hold great power and tell a lot
about the name-giver and power relationships.
"Wikimedia" means different things to different people (possibly all
valid), it is both the name for the concept of the different sister
projects and their combined ethos formin
Thank you for the suggestion, Anne!
As some background, the reason the private e-mail address is used instead
of the AffCom mailing list is that it allows the incoming applications to
be looked at all at the same time - thus not giving anyone an advantage or
disadvantage based on the time they ap
Thanks Niklas for the reply.
Notwithstanding the subject line's snark, and despite the fact that
components of the problem have been solved for a long time, from a user's
perspective there hasn't been progress on the handicap (not being able to
translate from languages other than English on Meta) a
Woohoo! Great news!
Best regards,
Bence
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Tonmoy Khan wrote:
> Dear All,
>
>
> It gives me great pleasure to announce that Wikimedia Bangladesh (WMBD) has
> successfully completed its local registration in Bangladesh. Our
> application for registration was approv
Thanks for sharing, Tilman!
(These are really useful pages, and nice to see them continue to be
maintained).
Best regards,
Bence
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Tilman Bayer wrote:
> Minutes and slides from last week's quarterly review of the
> Foundation's Mobile Contributions team are now a
Hi Nathan,
There is a shortish overview at:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Reports/2012#State_of_affiliates
.
In general, we very rarely reject applications outright publicly -- more
often than not, an application will run until we have worked with the group
to the point t
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 12:17 AM, Leigh Thelmadatter
wrote:
> > Obviously, having more user groups would be great, but we do not
> currently
> > know how many are not being created due to the process.
> > It is entirely possible, that the creation of active user groups (without
> > further investm
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Risker wrote:
> I'm still stuck on "bylaws". Why is AffCom asking for bylaws?
>
Depends on the context.
We do review them, or at least try to, whenever a group (chapter, user
group, thematic organisation) decides to have them, in order to make sure
they comply
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Samuel Klein wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Bence Damokos wrote:
>
> > Also, somewhat unfortunately in my view, there is a requirement for user
> > groups is to have a "history of projects", which was not further define
Hi Leigh,
Actually, we were discussing your group's application even before your
writing here. I do apologize for the lack of communication or clarity,
although there was no news to communicate.
In general, I would advise everyone to be bold in following the
recommendation that is on the Meta pag
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Kevin Gorman wrote:
> other active GAC members given the
> relatively low bar required for UG status - we'll be paying way more
> attention at the details of the grant and the applicant(s) than on whether
> they have AffCom recognition. I'd definitely rather giv
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Bence Damokos wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Sam Klein
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Bence and Greg. I appreciate all of the thought going into this.
>> Can you describe the groups that might have been problematic as UGs?
>
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Sam Klein wrote:
> Thanks, Bence and Greg. I appreciate all of the thought going into this.
> Can you describe the groups that might have been problematic as UGs?
> I think both becoming and stopping to be a UG should be a simple process.
>
Thanks Sam - your thi
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Nathan wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Bence Damokos wrote:
>
> > Hi Sam,
> >
> > If all the steps could happen at the same time, and decisions were made
> by
> > a single person, then the process could indeed be don
Hi Sam,
If all the steps could happen at the same time, and decisions were made by
a single person, then the process could indeed be done in 30 minutes under
ideal circumstances (a person being 24/7 online, and all information being
available at the time of application).
However, currently there
I do agree that with all good faith being assumed, Wil's style of
interaction is a bit new and the novelty is starting to wear off a bit. Wil
is of course his own individual and beyond respecting the soft posting
limits as part of this list's etiquette I do not think anyone is trying to
stifle or s
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Thanks Rupert for thinking about this. The chapter creation process[0]
is indeed under-going review following the Board's November decision,
and all comments, input is welcome.
There are some reasons that make it a bit difficult to enact your
suggestions or to come to the results you suggest in th
While this is a compelling interpretation - for the sake of argument -
I am not sure the words of the ED of the WMF can bind the Board of the
WMF in the decisions they make. I could imagine situations where they
could, and normally the ED advises the Board on what direction to
take, but normally it
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Risker wrote:
> On 27 April 2014 15:01, Bence Damokos wrote:
>
>> What is currently stopping a community assessment from being carried
>> out? (If indeed the community has the actual desire to do it -- I
>> assume the data is as public
What is currently stopping a community assessment from being carried
out? (If indeed the community has the actual desire to do it -- I
assume the data is as public as it gets at the WMF's current level of
transparency.)
Best regards,
Bence
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Risker wrote:
> On 27 A
whatever reason.)
Best regards,
Bence
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Bence Damokos wrote:
> Thanks Chris for the update.
> I was not in the session, but there is an Etherpad I will be looking
> at: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/wmcon14-14
>
> Best r
Thanks Chris for the update.
I was not in the session, but there is an Etherpad I will be looking
at: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/wmcon14-14
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> it's so large page. My browser started to lag badly while opening that page
> which is 46 A4 pages if we print it.
>
> Yours sincerely,
> Base
> 13.04.2014 15:20, Bence Damokos написав(ла):
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As we have been discussing communic
Hi all,
As we have been discussing communication and sharing of experiences at
various sessions here at the Wikimedia Conference in Berlin, I wanted
to remind people of the chaptersplanet.org website i set up a few
years ago that aggregates blog posts, reports and newsletters from the
various affi
the other community
members gathered here in Berlin:
Carlos Colina,
Chair, Wikimedia Affiliations Committee
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I am not sure it would qualify as a public statement rather than a sentence
taken and quoted out of context from a closed meeting - in other words, it
was not made at a public, accessible location, rather at a closed meeting
(with limited places, an entrance fee, etc.). While there are published
n
Please note that this year the invitation to the conference states
"Organizations
who would like to send more than two persons will have to book and pay for
all their travel and accommodation themselves." -
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2014/Registration -
There is no more a
Thanks Erik, for looking into it constructively. Looking forward to the
report and the learnings from the assessment.
Best regards,
Bence
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Erik Moeller wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Fæ wrote:
>
> > Eric, in this thread you are officially speaking f
I seem to remember it was geotargeted to the US, wasn't it?
The change seems to have been made at the end of January, if I am reading
Gerrit right (to which there is no guarantee):
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/98885/
Best regards,
Bence
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Philippe Beaudette
imedia.org/wiki/Talk:WMF_Board_meetings/2013-11-24/FAQ#AffCom_response(translations
can be provided at:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/February_2014_Statement).
The English version is copied below for your convenience.
Best regards,
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Chair, Affiliations Committee
Speaking in my personal capacity, I echo the surprise that the Board has
decided to move a motion before they had full or close to full consensus on
the issue - which is in general a departure from the usual.
I can only assume that there was a better reason behind the urgency than
the need to paus
Hi Laura,
The Brasilian community has a long history with many twists. At one time
there was a proposed chapter that the Board has recognized but was never
founded; and the Affiliations Committee has recommended the user group
route for the community in their current aspiration to form a chapter.
.
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n redesigning the FDC process after Round 2 is
> finished (in May).
>
> best,
>
> dariusz
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Bence Damokos wrote:
>
>> Thanks Pavel for sharing this.
>>
>> I think a bigger conversation will be on-going on Met
Thanks Pavel for sharing this.
I think a bigger conversation will be on-going on Meta and in general on
where to continue it in the real world. It might be useful to keep in mind
that the movement has already invested and committed to bringing all
chapters (and possibly thorgs) to the Wikimedia Co
regards,
Bence
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Bence Damokos wrote:
> // For translated versions, please consult
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Call_for_Candidates_2014
> //
>
> Dear all,
>
> The Affiliations Committee [1], the committee th
esolutions/Wikisource_Community_User_Group_%E2%80%93_November_2013.
The group has already signed the user group agreement, their first round of
recognition runs until 31 November 2014.
Please join me in welcoming them and wishing them luck.
Best regards,
Bence Damokos
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e to apply.
Please distribute this call among your networks, and do apply if you are
interested.[3]
Best regards,
Bence Damokos
Chair,
Affiliations Committee
[1]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee (please follow
the links and familiarize yourself with our work)
[2]:
bidders and
other interested parties to provide their own feedback.
Best regards,
Asaf Bartov, Bence Damokos, Arnau Duran, Itzik Edri, Mike Peel, Osmar
Valdebenito, Ilario Valdelli
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[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2014/Bids
I believe it was a matter of keeping the travel cost estimate simple -
note that the wmf (staff, board, fdc, affcom) and future chapters,
thorgs and possibly user groups were also not counted.
Amical should definitely be invited again, and indeed there is a
member from Amical participating in the
(And to answer my own second question - with the correct search term, there
is indeed an article in 3 languages.)
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:09 AM, Bence Damokos wrote:
> (correct slip of the tongue...)
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Bence Damokos wrote:
>
>> Thanks for p
(correct slip of the tongue...)
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Bence Damokos wrote:
> Thanks for posting this and for putting in the work on a short notice.
>
> Just to clarify: your preferred/proposed course of action has changed over
> the weekend, from registering a standard tr
Thanks for posting this and for putting in the work on a short notice.
Just to clarify: your preferred/proposed course of action has changed over
the weekend, from registering a standard trademark to a community mark?
And to further our mission: do we have a Wikipedia article about this type
of t
The name "conference" doesn't mean that it has to stick to the traditional
conference format.
Indeed, one of the suggested discussion topics (both in general, and for
the actual programme committee) is to consider different formats and
approaches (e.g. using the event for capacity building workshop
bers
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As I understand the blog is currently a self-hosted instance of Wordpress
and the idea is to move the hosting to somewhere else.
(So this is not MediaWiki vs. Wordpress, but self-hosting vs. not
self-hosting)
Best regards,
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On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Theo10011 wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 5
Can somebody summarize the concerns raised in that RfC?
Best regards,
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On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:
> Hi,
> there is a famous quote on courage by Winston Churchill, a British Prime
> Minister, who once wisely said: "Courage is what it takes to stand up and
>
Day 2013 and organized an edit-a-thon recently
on el.wp as part of the World War I edit-a-thons.
The group is also working towards chapterhood in the future.
The Affiliations Committee's recognition is valid until 31 July 2014.
Best regards,
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:
> Victor Grigas wrote:
>
> > This was because much of the material surrounding the video was
> > written in English, and there was a lot of it, so translation would
> > have been slow, expensive and prone to error.
>
> That's what commun
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:
> However, as you correctly write, that banner only served those millions of
> our viewers a cached image that was uploaded to donate.wm.org (so it was
> cached the usual way) and /only/ if they had clicked the play button were
> they se
Hi Itzik,
As far as I understand, the activity report is a requirement in the
chapters agreement, which the WMF is finally starting to take somewhat
seriously. (§8 [1])
But otherwise I agree that the FDC process requires quite a bit of time
spent on it throughout the year.
Best regards,
Bence
[
s and wish them
success in furthering our mission in Uruguay!
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http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/GLAM-Wiki_U.S._Consortium_%E2%80%93_June_2013
[2] http
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:
> Bence Damokos wrote:
>
> I hope I am not totally unqualified to speak about the Wikipedia topics.
>>
>
> Quite the contrary, I think you're very knowledgeable about the
> subject—but what does AffCom
I will be representing myself as a Wikimedia volunteer, who happens to hold
a title related to AffCom and has a somewhat theoretical education of what
diplomacy is supposed to be.
I hope I am not totally unqualified to speak about the Wikipedia topics.
The webinar will be broadcast using Google Ha
, for a fixed, renewable time-period and they are
to enjoy limited trademark use and simplified access to grants.
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(typo fix)
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Bence Damokos wrote:
> Personally I think this line of the conversation (people resigning/fired)
> is taking the situation a bit too far.
> At the least not having volunteers administer the WMF's wiki is just
> punishment already.
Personally I think this line of the conversation (people resigning/fired)
is taking the situation a bit too far.
At the least not having volunteers administer the WMF's wiki is just
punishment already.
It seems that the WMF is unlikely to change its policy, so the best they
can do to heal the hurt
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
> Gregory Varnum, 12/05/2013 19:47:
>
> Nemo,
>>
>> I'm not sure what you mean by a single person's POV. Are you referring
>> to Stephen?
>>
>
> No. It doesn't matter who that is.
Geoff speaking and signing his post as General Counsel
art of the community, I
> think
> > should have the maturity to say "Thanks for the option, but we prefer for
> > the visibility and the fairness to book less expensive accommodation".
> >
> > BTW. 40,000$ it's about 25 scholarships we can give. Not saying A
Hi Tomasz,
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski <
tom...@twkozlowski.net> wrote:
> Gregory Varnum wrote:
>
> I am not sure what you mean by none of the members being willing to
>> comment.
>>
> > Our chair has responded several times on Meta and many others have
> responded
>
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
> phoebe ayers, 01/05/2013 21:54:
>
> Dear Bence and all,
>>
>> This is a very good report! It is very clear, just the right length and
>> gives a good picture of all of the activity of the committee -- both
>> accomplishments and frust
with where the
Committee is at right now, even though this year is facing up to be a busy
one.
Any questions, or feedback are welcome, especially as we are still
experimenting with reporting format, content, and the level of detail.
Best regards,
Bence Damokos
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Sounds like a great idea.
Best regards,
Bence
On Sunday, April 21, 2013, Fae wrote:
> The majority of chapter boards (and the proposed thematic
> organizations) do not routinely have an induction process with
> training in expected reporting requirements, liability as directors,
> the role of ov
It seems that applying to the FDC for funding periods already begun has
been outruled going forward:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Frequently_asked_questions#fundingperiodinthepast.
If I read the FAQ correctly.
I am not sure if the WMF is giving itself and exception?
Best regards,
Ben
zed in a quick and easy process directly by
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to enjoy limited trademark use and simplified access to grants.
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Dear all,
I am happy to announce that the the WMF Board of Trustees have resolved to
recognize Wikimedia Armenia as the newest Wikimedia chapter:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Armenia
This group has already put a lot of effort into promoting Wikipedia an
It would depend on the circumstances (e.g. the relationship between the
groups, their history), but in theory thematic organizations are not meant
to be fully exclusive in relation to their chosen theme. There could be
more thematic organizations focusing on WikiVoyage.
This possibility is one tha
I think both of you have some good points. I would argue that currently,
only a subset of chapters is fully funded from fundraising revenues, and
many of the rest rely on membership fees to finance some or all of their
administrative costs (while individual, more expensive programmes can be
funded
n Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
> Bence Damokos, 10/03/2013 19:18:
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> We will be monitoring the talk page at
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Talk:Wikivoyage_**Association<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikivoyage_Association>to
>
Dear all,
I wanted to update you on behalf of the Affiliations Committee that we are
now considering the application of a proposed thematic organisation to
support WikiVoyage, the WikiVoyage Association, the erstwhile stewards of
the project.
You can see the proposal at:
http://meta.wikimedia.org
Hi Mike,
They have not yet incorporated and haven't signed a chapters agreement.
They are not being encouraged to incorporate without being certain that
they want to and are able to take on the responsibilities of running an
organization (with the requirements to file government reports; have annu
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