Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > I mean, look at how Jimbo sold the VisualEditor to the press at the start > of the roll-out: > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/10196578/Wikipedia-introduces-new-features-to-entice-editors.html > > ---o0o--- > > “VisualEdito

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:36 AM, David Gerard wrote: > Certainly. However, it's the obvious question to ask, and a curious > question to spend several paragraphs not answering. > > Erik, James - how did de:wp convinced you when en:wp hasn't? Hi David, I don't really agree with your framing - it'

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talkaboutVisualEditor

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Peter Southwood wrote: > That should help, Any idea of when we can expect the change? Last time I discussed with Trevor he mentioned that it was a trivial fix (we just need to remove the hover effect), so let me bug them tomorrow :). -- Erik Möller VP of Engine

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk aboutVisualEditor

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Peter Southwood wrote: > You could start by making the edit links permanently visible and clearly > labeled. Yeah, I've already requested this, since it seems like an easy win. The mouseover behavior is really not a good solution - it was an attempt to find a com

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:13 AM, David Gerard wrote: > de:wp convinced you. What would it take to convince you on en:wp? (I'm > asking for a clear objective criterion here. If you can only offer a > subjective one, please explain how de:wp convinced you when en:wp > hasn't.) Hey David, to me,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On the gentrification of Wikipedia, by Superbass

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:23 PM, James Forrester wrote: > That'd be great, yes (and really easy to do using Parsoid's DOM) - we > could do annotations, comments, content collapsing, etc. - but I can't see > how it would work with wikitext in a way that would leave it > sanely-editable for users.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

Hey Tomasz, this is a good way to start a new thread here, so let me respond. We've done the following with regard to the VE beta so far: - We've overall slowed down the beta rollout schedule; - We've excluded nlwiki from the phase 2 beta rollout; - We've switched dewiki back to opt-in; - We've o

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On the gentrification of Wikipedia, by Superbass (was: Visual Editor)

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 4:00 PM, David Gerard wrote: > Are there any wikitext constructions that are actually going to be > deprecated? We don't know yet. We try to support almost everything. In addition to the unbalanced templates that Marc mentions, there are templates that literally insert ind

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Changes at the Wikimedia Foundation Fundraising Team

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Sue Gardner wrote: > We all owe Zack enormous thanks and praise. No kidding - the accomplishments of the fundraising team have been amazing. In addition to supporting WMF's growth and thereby our ability to take on very ambitious and complex projects like VisualE

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On the gentrification of Wikipedia, by Superbass (was: Visual Editor)

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Jan Ainali wrote: > I have not read the vision statement as it is the production of knowledge > that need be availible to every human being, but the consumption. Actually, having co-drafted the Vision Statement (it was drafted at the October 2006 Board retreat in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the concentration of resources in SF (it was: "Communication plans for community engagement"

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Craig Franklin wrote: > For the benefit of chapters that are interested in this space, can you > offer any examples of projects that are of an appropriate size and type for > a chapter to take on? It's a great question, Craig. One idea that I think is worth kickin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Jane Darnell wrote: > I am happy to report that I just discovered what the problem is. I had > turned off the "Show edit toolbar" option in my preferences (probably > over a year ago), so I wasn't seeing the top part of the VE edit > toolbar, which includes the h

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the concentration of resources in SF (it was: "Communication plans for community engagement"

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:39 PM, rupert THURNER wrote: > If WMF is serious about letting development activities grow in other > countries this might be taken into account in FDCs allocation policy. For my part, I'm happy to offer feedback to the FDC on plans related to the development of enginee

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga wrote: >> Speaking of template madness, the current horrible brokenness that are >> templates seem to be on the long term roadmap to be fixed. Fixing them >> requires breaking a whole lot, far more than a visual editor preference. Is >> t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the concentration of resources in SF (it was: "Communication plans for community engagement"

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:44 AM, David Cuenca wrote: > I don't agree with Romaine's view that it is a cultural problem, but it is > true that the WMF management seems to prefer to have all development > concentrated in SF. Hardly. About half of WMF's engineering staff is distributed (both inside

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Tom Morris wrote: > Should that even be a concern? I mean, if lots of newbies and > technophobes start using the Visual Editor and a bunch of us > dorks who love writing markup don't, would that matter? That's a great question, Tom. :) We're confident that in th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Craig Franklin wrote: > I just want to basically endorse some of the other comments being made > here, which I think are quite insightful. If the goal of this project was > to get the Visual Editor deployed on time and on budget, then the goal has > been achieved

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:06 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > This particular ongoing saga (refusing to provide an opt-out mechanism for > VisualEditor) seems to largely echo past issues with treating Wikimedia > editors as customers instead of colleagues. That's not the intent, and I'm sorry if that's h

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Romaine Wiki wrote: > I still don't see a reflection in your mail that you take the feedback from > local communities seriously. Romaine, we're not ignoring feedback. I'm asking James to weigh in with some details relative to the issues raised that are specific

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote: > The concern is not about the validity of the Visual Editor project, or the > quality of the work being done, but about the deployment process. > Unfortunately, the rollout schedule for the visual editor was determined by > the WMF senior manage

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Chris Keating wrote: > Maybe that's an idea - I am just imagining Brandon in firefighter uniform, > James Forrester in the uniform of a Beefeater guarding the Tower of London, > and the whole of Legal in Special Forces cammo led by Geoff carrying a > pearl-handled

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Dan Rosenthal wrote: > Or the picture of Rory as "mascot"? The real issue here is that the Legal Department has a stuffed animal mascot, while WMF engineering/product has absolutely no animals of any kind. I would put up a photograph of Tux, but I'm worried Rory w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What community initiatives have made an impact on editor engagement?

On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Steven Walling wrote: > On July 11th at the next WMF Metrics & Activities meeting, myself, Erik > Möller, Howie Fung, Maryana Pinchuk, and Dario Taraborelli are going to > deliver a short update on the state of Wikimedia editor communities. (For > those not familia

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Toby Negrin joins Wikimedia Foundation as Director of Analytics

Hello all, it’s my great pleasure to announce that as of today, Toby Negrin is joining the Wikimedia Foundation as the new Director of Analytics. Toby will be responsible for leading the analytics team, which is responsible for enabling data-driven decisions in the Wikimedia Foundation and the bro

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks for all the fish!

Thanks for everything, Milos. It's been a pleasure and I won't be at all surprised to run into you again, if not in Wikimedia then in other free culture circles. There are lots of unfinished projects indeed -- for me, seeing the movement tackle increasingly hard and complex challenges successfully

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Welcome to Ken Snider, Wikimedia Operations

FYI :) -- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller Date: Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:17 AM Subject: Welcome to Ken Snider, Wikimedia Operations To: Wikimedia developers Hello all, I’m delighted to announce that Ken Snider is joining the Wikimedia operations team. He will start as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [WikimediaMobile] Wikipedia Zero in Google search result

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > I don't know if there's a general bug report about canonical URLs & co. > indexing, but there's one about Google messing up with 301/302 redirects > which is spreading quite a bit lately. Erik wrote them to no avail some time > ago. >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:56 AM, David Goodman wrote: > Basically, you (in the plural) thought you could do better than the > consensus, and therefore simply without rejecting it , did not implement it > while you tried other things first. All these trials would have been > good, ''had they be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > I think I'm quite neutral to the decision itself. If it is a WMF wiki, and > if indeed there were some problems with staff being overridden by > volunteers, I think it may perhaps make some sense to leave it to WMF. > However, the way t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Sue Gardner wrote: > My understanding is that administrator rights have been removed from a > small number of volunteers, but that those people still have basic editing > rights. Far more than basic, actually. The WMF wiki is unusual in that it allows insertion o

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Jared Zimmerman joins Wikimedia Foundation as Director of UX

Hi folks, It’s my great pleasure to announce that today, Jared Zimmerman will start as Wikimedia Foundation’s Director of User Experience. As UX Director, Jared will lead the design team and have a hands-on role on the team, contributing his own design work. It’s still a small team (Brandon, Vibha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

As background, relevant links I was able to find regarding the WMHK funding discussions: WMHK FDC proposal: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals/2012-2013_round2/Wikimedia_Hong_Kong/Proposal_form Responses: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:FDC_portal/Proposals/2012-2013_round2

[Wikimedia-l] Wikidata Stubs: Threat or Menace?

Millions of Wikidata stubs invade small Wikipedias .. Volapük Wikipedia now best curated source on asteroids .. new editors flood small wikis .. Google spokesperson: "This is out of control. We will shut it down." Denny suggested: >> II ) develop a feature that blends into Wikipedia's search if a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

Denny, very good and compelling reasoning as always. I think the argument that we can potentially do a lot for the MT space (including open source efforts) in part by getting our own house in order on the dictionary side of things makes a lot of sense. I don't think it necessarily excludes investi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 12:06 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > Though the Wikimedia community seems eager to add new projects (Wikidata, > Wikivoyage), I wonder how it can be sensible or reasonable to focus on yet > another project when the current projects are largely neglected (Wikinews, > Wikisource, Wi

[Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

Wikimedia's mission is to make the sum of all knowledge available to every person on the planet. We do this by enabling communities in all languages to organize and collect knowledge in our projects, removing any barriers that we're able to remove. In spite of this, there are and will always be la

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Tech/Product] Engineering/Product org structure

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 7:49 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > Sue or Erik: is there any update on this e-mail from November 2012? (Or > some place interested folks should be watching for news?) In addition to the original note from November, please also see Sue's follow-up restructure announcement from Dec

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > Last year's financial report shows almost exactly $2.5m for "Internet > hosting". I'm not sure quite what that covers Only data-center usage (facilities, bandwidth, power). It does not include capital expenditures (servers, storage, network

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:47 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > It costs about $2.5 million to keep the sites operational for a year. How did you come up with that number? Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundat

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mid-Year Financial Statements

On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:12 PM, ENWP Pine wrote: > Hm, I guess a planning problem could be the root cause, but since Erik > seems to be saying that WMF has found a number of good candidates > outside of SF and yet the statement in the FAQ for the mid-year financials > said that the competition

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mid-Year Financial Statements

On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1:06 PM, ENWP Pine wrote: > I'd like to ask you or Gayle about how aggressive WMF is about recruiting > outside of SF. I'm not Gayle or Garfield, but here's some simple data on the most recent hires: Sr. Software Engineer, Mobile - to be announced shortly - remote, not r

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Aaron Swartz is dead

As has been noted, Aaron (User:AaronSw) was a prolific Wikipedian since 2003 and a candidate in the 2006 Board election. His writings during his election campaign are worth re-reading: http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/wikiroads http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/whowriteswikipedia http://www.aaronsw.com/w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: "Big data" benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Tim Starling wrote: > It should be obvious that what is missing is discipline. An > arbitration committee with expanded scope, with full-time members > funded by the WMF (at arm's length for legal reasons), could go a long > way towards solving the problem. Some us

Re: [Wikimedia-l] compromise?

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Leslie Carr wrote: > How do we even know that salary is a factor in people voluntarily > leaving? Has it been established in exit interviews? In engineering/product, 9 staff members (*) left in the 2012 calendar year, compared with a dept staff today of about 8

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quarterly reviews of high priority WMF initiatives

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Steven Walling wrote: >> - Discussion of proposed changes (e.g. resourcing, targets) and other >> action items > One quick item of clarification here Erik: does "Discussion of proposed > changes" mean proposals by the team, or proposals by those on the review > p

[Wikimedia-l] Quarterly reviews of high priority WMF initiatives

Hi folks, to increase accountability and create more opportunities for course corrections and resourcing adjustments as necessary, Sue's asked me and Howie Fung to set up a quarterly project evaluation process, starting with our highest priority initiatives. These are, according to Sue's narrowing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Alpha version of the VisualEditor now available on the English Wikipedia

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 7:30 PM, James Forrester wrote: > TL;DR: Today we are launching an alpha, opt-in version of the > VisualEditor[0] to the English Wikipedia. This will let editors create > and modify real articles visually, using a new system where the > articles they edit will look the same

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Banners are too bright, too long

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Erik Moeller wrote: > I think the change that's pointed out in this thread is that the > banners that were running as of this weekend(?) expand to take up > about more than 2x the vertical size with an in-banner donation form > even if you jus

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Banners are too bright, too long

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Sue Gardner wrote: > The campaign this year is hugely effective. The banners are smaller and the > campaign will be significantly shorter than in previous years, and yet we > will raise more money: that's excellent. I think the change that's pointed out in this th

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimedia/mapping event in Europe early next year?

-- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller Date: Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 6:49 PM Subject: Wikimedia/mapping event in Europe early next year? To: map...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi folks, it's been a long time coming, but we're finally gearing up for putting some development e

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Tech/Product] Engineering/Product org structure

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Quim Gil wrote: > There is a blog post & video circulating these days, about how GitHub Inc is > organized as a company. They also manage a version control system promoting > decentralized collaboration, plus other tools supporting this core goal and > the big comm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Tech/Product] Engineering/Product org structure

On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Quim Gil wrote: > While it makes total sense to organize Product Management, Design and > Analytics under "Product Development", it feels old school and odd to leave > out the software engineers fully dedicated to product development. It > enforces the old vision

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Tech/Product] Engineering/Product org structure

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:04 AM, rupert THURNER wrote: > there is a lot of good reasoning in your mail. you talk of "engineering > functions" and "product functions" already existing. which ones are these, > what is their responsibility, and how many people work in these functions > currently? (

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton wrote: > Soo... We need to restart de pt.wikivoyage.org? One of the biggest > projects?? This is true?? 2000 articles, importing by hand??? Hi Rodrigo, we were only able to import languages from Wikivoyage where dumps were prepared an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Erik Moeller wrote: > httsp://en.wikivoyage.org/ Er, https://en.wikivoyage.org/ :) -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Don

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

So, if you've not been following along on wikivoyage-l ( https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l ), you should know that Wikivoyage is now hosted on WMF servers. :) We're currently in "beta", as there's still lots of smaller and larger issues to work through, including transferrin

[Wikimedia-l] Are you planning a hackathon in 2013? Please let us know.

jHi all, a reminder to chapters and volunteers around the world -- if you're planning a hackathon, please let us know beforehand by adding it to this page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_developer_meetings Consistent with Sue's recommendations to the Board, Wikimedia Foundation will sp

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Tech/Product] Engineering/Product org structure

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Platonides wrote: > You can see several teams in that page, with members from multiple > "sections". Which leads to the (naive?) question on what's the purpose > of being splitted in those sections if then the work is done in teams > with a completely different org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Tech/Product] Engineering/Product org structure

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Quim Gil wrote: > Whatever the result, I hope we end up with teams where software developers, > sysadmins, product managers, designers etc are well mixed in focused teams > going after clear common goals. Absolutely. Teams are assembled cross-functionally to ensu

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Tech/Product] Engineering/Product org structure

FYI -- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller Date: Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:38 PM Subject: [Tech/Product] Engineering/Product org structure To: Staff All Hi folks, consistent with Sue's narrowing focus mandate, I’ve been thinking & talking the last few weeks a fair b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board vote on narrowing focus

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:05 AM, Lodewijk wrote: > The question I am missing in this analysis (but perhaps it was discussed > orally) is 'which organization/group/individual is best placed to execute > this' and then I definitely agree that many events etc are probably better > executed at a chapt

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming: WMF metrics/activities meeting - November 1

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > The meeting will take place November 1, 2012 at 5:30 PM UTC. The IRC > channel is #wikimedia-metrics-meetings [1] on irc.freenode.net. All documentation [*] can now be found here: https://meta.wikimedia.or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming: WMF metrics/activities meeting - November 1

This is starting in 3 minutes. All info here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming: WMF metrics/activities meeting -

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 10:24 AM, ENWP Pine wrote: > I suggest that you use #wikimedia-office #wikimedia-office it is. :) Cheers, Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate __

[Wikimedia-l] Upcoming: WMF metrics/activities meeting - November 1

Hi folks, I'm pleased to announced that the next WMF metrics and activities meeting is going to be the first one that'll be live-streamed on YouTube with an open IRC backchannel. The meeting will take place November 1, 2012 at 5:30 PM UTC. The IRC channel is #wikimedia-metrics-meetings [1] on irc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Strainu wrote: > Hi Erik, > > What languages are you launching with and what is the procedure for > launching new languages? We're basing the initial set on the languages which are ready for import from Wikivoyage. At this point, it looks like that would be German

[Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

Hi folks, a quick update on the launch of a travel project under the WMF umbrella, and the import of the existing Wikivoyage site. * The name of the new site will be wikivoyage.org, per community vote. Language domains will live at (foo).wikivoyage.org. * A mailing list has been set up at https:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naming for the Travel Guide project (James Heilman)

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Risker wrote: > I think there are enough options that we don't need to look further than > domains that are already under the control of the WMF or a person/group who > has stated in writing that they are willing to transfer the ownership. +1; also see Tom Morton'

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naming for the Travel Guide project

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Lodewijk wrote: > thanks for the offer :) That was indeed the situation I was referring to. > It would probably be good to mention on the page who people should contact > (first Erik, and he will send people from there?). I don't have any awesome > ideas currently

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Travel Project - Next Steps

FYI -- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller Date: Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 5:38 PM Subject: Travel Project - Next Steps To: Wikimedia Mailing List , Wikimedia developers Hello all, As recently announced [1], WMF will move forward in creating a Wikimedia travel project based

[Wikimedia-l] Travel Project - Next Steps

Hello all, As recently announced [1], WMF will move forward in creating a Wikimedia travel project based on community request and support. We’re currently in discussions with the Wikivoyage community, who’ve expressed interest in joining Wikimedia’s project family as part of this launch. We’re co

Re: [Wikimedia-l] CNET News: "Corruption in Wikiland? Paid PR scandal erupts at Wikipedia"

On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Richard Symonds wrote: > I believe part of the problem is that Roger may not be in the UK - he may > well be in a hotel in Gibraltar with limited and expensive internet access. > It's not yet been 48 hours since this all broke - give him some time to > reply. Rog

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 4:41 AM, wrote: > You must live in a very simplistic world, but I am afraid it does resemble > reality very well. Here are how some various types of things and people are > funded. Tool server=chapter. Developers= Mostly WMF but some chapter. > Marketing professionals=

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Announces 2012-13 Board of Trustees and Elected Officers at Wikimania in Washington DC

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:14 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > It has been an honor to be a member of the Board, and I hope you will > join me in welcoming Alice and Patricio. Thank you, Phoebe (and Arne!), for your service to the movement! And thanks to Ting for his work as Chair, and congrats to Kat Wa

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Update on IPv6

On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Freek Dijkstra wrote: > I want to express my gratitude for all engineers who made this happen. > Kudos and compliments to all of you. Credit goes to Mark Bergsma, Faidon Liambotis, Ryan Lane, Asher Feldman, Aaron Schulz, Chris Steipp, and many others for helping ma

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on IPv6

Hi folks, Mark Bergsma just shared the following recap with me, for those who are interested in the details of what happened at the hackathon and next steps. tl;dr: If all goes well we'll be ready to launch full production deployment on Wednesday, starting around 10AM UTC (MediaWiki engineers will

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on IPv6

Hi Risker et al, a few important points: * IPv6 adoption is still below 1% globally [1]. * It's likely that we'll encounter network-level issues well before we hit application-level issues during limited production testing. * In the event that we manage to resolve all issues, it's likely that we'l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on IPv6

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Huib Laurens wrote: > In our case here we give away /48 IPV6 to users by default. So I'm > wondering, when a IP vandalize Wikipedia or any other project and a block > will be placed, how is this done? > > Will the block just "hit" the IP or will it block a complet

[Wikimedia-l] Update on IPv6

Hi all, June 6, 2012 is IPv6 Day ( http://www.worldipv6day.org/ ). The goal of this global event is to move more ISPs, equipment manufacturers and web services to permanent adoption of IPv6. We're planning to do limited production testing of IPv6 during the Berlin Hackathon 2012 (June 2-3). Provi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Announcement] James Forrester joins WMF as Technical Product Analyst

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Kat Walsh wrote: > Also, I am having serious trouble wrapping my mind around James living > outside the UK. We've confirmed through experimental visits to San Francisco that James can in fact exist outside the UK in a stable state. But let's face it -- we'll eith

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki-research-l] MathJax comes to Wikipedia

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Dario Taraborelli wrote: > MathJax [1] is now enabled site-wide as an opt-in preference. You can now see > beautifully rendered, accessible, copy&pasteable and standard-compliant > (MathML) formulas on Wikipedia, replacing the old TeX-rendered PNGs. Thanks Dario.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Only IP editing allowed on Wikipedia

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:33 AM, WereSpielChequers wrote: > Having been logged off about ten times Our memcached cluster (which handles session information) has been experiencing stability issues in the last few weeks. Over the weekend, we rebooted all memcached boxes to deal with a particular k

[Wikimedia-l] www.wikimedia.org (Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process)

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Liam Wyatt wrote: > - Also, could we look at merging the OutreachWiki, the StrategyWiki and > MetaWiki? Maybe they could all live at the (currently extremely > under-utilised) domain of http://www.wikimedia.org/ I've put some initial brainstorming notes about how

Re: [Wikimedia-l] foundation-l is now wikimedia-l

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Thank you. It's worth noting on > , where the > mailman admins are/were setting up some conventions and defining a bunch of > lists to be renamed, which will include Wiki

[Wikimedia-l] New list description - draft

As promised, a separate note about slightly revising the list description to make it more inclusive and up-to-date: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l I've included a sentence at the bottom which is a summary of the moderation principles that were previously posted here: http://lists.wik

Re: [Wikimedia-l] foundation-l is now wikimedia-l

On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > The list URL should now redirect. And, Daniel just implemented an alias as well [1], which I'm testing by responding using the foundation-l address. (I promise this'll be the last meta note for a while if all's working!) Er

Re: [Wikimedia-l] foundation-l is now wikimedia-l

On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > Currently the old list email address will bounce, and the old list URL > will give you a "foundation-l does not exist" message (whereas old > archive URLs will continue working). The list URL should now redirect. [1] E

Re: [Wikimedia-l] foundation-l is now wikimedia-l

On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Does the old adress redirect to the new one? Currently the old list email address will bounce, and the old list URL will give you a "foundation-l does not exist" message (whereas old archive URLs will continue working). Daniel's looki

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: foundation-l is now wikimedia-l

Archives were broken for a few minutes. To avoid additional complex surgery that would require list downtime, I'm just re-sending the first few messages that got sent to the new list. Apologies for the spam, this is only for posterity. ;-) Erik - - - foundation-l is now wikimedia-l Erik Mo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] foundation-l is now wikimedia-l

On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 2:01 PM, David Gerard wrote: > The "from" line still calls it the "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" :-) Just fixed that. -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate

Re: [Wikimedia-l] foundation-l is now wikimedia-l

On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Nathan wrote: > Does the announce list forward correctly? I updated it earlier, so the reply-to should be correct. -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate

[Wikimedia-l] foundation-l is now wikimedia-l

Hi all, as promised, foundation-l is now wikimedia-l. Hopefully all the list settings should have survived without any difference whatsoever except for the list names. Archives should exist in both places, and only at the wikimedia-l location going forward. foundation-l delivery should be disabled

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