Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of the Wikimaps User Group

2017-03-07 Thread Sydney Poore
Congratulations Wikimaps User Group and welcome to the Wikimedia affiliate family. Warm regards, Sydney Sydney Poore User:FloNight Co-founder Kentucky Wikimedians, Co-founder WikiWomen User Group, Co-founder WikiConference North America Board member of Wiki Project Med Foundation, Member of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Erzyan Language User Group

2017-03-07 Thread Sydney Poore
Congratulations Wikimedians of Erzyan Language User Group, and welcome to the Wikimedia affiliate family. Warm regards, Sydney Sydney Poore User:FloNight Co-founder Kentucky Wikimedians, Co-founder WikiWomen User Group, Co-founder WikiConference North America Board member of Wiki Project Med

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of the Karavali Wikimedians User Group

2017-03-07 Thread Sydney Poore
Congratulations Karavali Wikimedians User Group, and welcome to the Wikimedia affiliate family. Warm regards, Sydney Sydney Poore User:FloNight Co-founder Kentucky Wikimedians, Co-founder WikiWomen User Group, Co-founder WikiConference North America Board member of Wiki Project Med Foundation,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the West Bengal Wikimedians User Group

2017-03-07 Thread Sydney Poore
Congratulations West Bengal Wikimedians User Group, and welcome to the Wikimedia affiliate family. Sydney Sydney Poore User:FloNight Co-founder Kentucky Wikimedians, Co-founder WikiWomen User Group, Co-founder WikiConference North America Board member of Wiki Project Med Foundation, Member of

[Wikimedia-l] Approval: Wikimedia UG Fan Club, University of Ibadan, Oyomo state. Nigeria.

2017-03-07 Thread shola ishola
Dear All,  Trust you are fine  As part of our efforts to improve the awareness of Wikimedia related projects and activities in Nigeria. This is to officially inform the global community that Wikimedia UG Nigeria (WUGN) has been official approved  to run Wikimedia Fan Club, University of Ibadan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the Code of Conduct in force?

2017-03-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, As far as I am concerned we have working and workable procedures. The problem that I see is that the primacy is not with the "community" in everything. We have multiple communities and there is no single subset that can claim sovereignty over everything with the possible exception of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] March 2: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#9)

2017-03-07 Thread Joseph Seddon
And define "associated with". George W. Bush, the 43rd U.S. President is 8th cousin to Bill Gates for example (apparently) Seddon On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Could anyone name major donors or consultants to the Wikimedia Foundation > who are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

2017-03-07 Thread Jonatan Svensson Glad
Also, the MediaViewer offers HTML and plain text attribution, if you press the right icons. Jonatan Svensson Glad Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons > On 7 Mar 2017, at 13:01, "wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org" > wrote: > > Re: a second commons,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

2017-03-07 Thread Steinsplitter Wiki
Hello Lilburne, https://lizenzhinweisgenerator.de/?lang=en --Steinsplitter Von: Wikimedia-l im Auftrag von Lilburne Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. März 2017 03:14 An: Wikimedia Mailing List

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

2017-03-07 Thread Lodewijk
I believe we already have that in the upload form - this user chose not to use it. Someone mentioned earlier that if someone is of bad faith, they will always find a way to fool the system. So lets not worry too much - I'm just saying that this is a social issue even more than a technical one.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

2017-03-07 Thread Todd Allen
Could we set it up so that the uploader could set their preferred "Attribute me as..." text, if they want something different from the default? And make the facilities for generating it automatically more prominent? That would both help good faith uploaders to get better compliance without a lot

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

2017-03-07 Thread Lodewijk
Well, that would technically violate the terms as stated in the template. The result of those buttons would be: "By Taxiarchos228 (Own work) [FAL], via Wikimedia Commons" According to the detailed description it has to be (I think): "By Wladyslaw Sojka, www.sojka.photo" (from the description it's

[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimaps User Group

2017-03-07 Thread Kirill Lokshin
Hi everyone! I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized the Wikimaps User Group [1] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group aims to gather Wikimedia users engaged in a variety of activities related to geographic information from across the movement, so that people

[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Karavali Wikimedians User Group

2017-03-07 Thread Kirill Lokshin
Hi everyone! I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized the Karavali Wikimedians User Group [1] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group is dedicated to working on the Wikimedia projects in the Indian languages used in coastal Karnataka and the northern part of Kerala

[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Lëtzebuerg User Group

2017-03-07 Thread Kirill Lokshin
Hi everyone! I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized the Wikimedians of Lëtzebuerg User Group [1] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group aims to encourage Wikimedia movement activities amongst Luxembourgish communities through the implementation of various

[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the West Bengal Wikimedians User Group

2017-03-07 Thread Kirill Lokshin
Hi everyone! I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized the West Bengal Wikimedians User Group [1] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group aims to build a strong and diverse volunteer community base throughout West Bengal by increasing interaction among community

[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Erzyan Language User Group

2017-03-07 Thread Kirill Lokshin
Hi everyone! I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized the Wikimedians of Erzyan Language User Group [1] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group aims to promote the development of Wikipedia in the Erzya language, and to document topics related to the Erzya language,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimaps User Group

2017-03-07 Thread Stryn
Congrats! Stryn Sent from  7.3.2017 18.38 "Kirill Lokshin" kirjoitti: Hi everyone! I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized the Wikimaps User Group [1] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group aims to gather Wikimedia users engaged in a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] March 2: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#9)

2017-03-07 Thread Leila Zia
Hi, Rogol and team: Let's try to keep the email threads focused on their immediate topics. Katherine's email is an email to provide update about specifics of the strategy process at this point. There is quite a bit of content in her email that can be discussed in this thread or in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Lëtzebuerg User Group

2017-03-07 Thread Anna Stillwell
Congratulations. It's always good to see new user groups. And thank you Affiliations Committee for this work. Warmly, /a On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 8:38 AM, Kirill Lokshin wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Karavali Wikimedians User Group

2017-03-07 Thread Anna Stillwell
Congratulations. It's always good to see new user groups. I lived in Karnataka for a year. It's difficult to believe that was over 20 years ago. And thank you Affiliations Committee for this work. Warmly, /a On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 8:38 AM, Kirill Lokshin wrote: > Hi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the West Bengal Wikimedians User Group

2017-03-07 Thread Anna Stillwell
Congratulations. I look forward to your/their contributions. And thank you Affiliations Committee for this work. Warmly, /a On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Kirill Lokshin wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Erzyan Language User Group

2017-03-07 Thread Anna Stillwell
Congratulations. I look forward to your contributions. And thank you Affiliations Committee for this work. Warmly, /a On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 8:38 AM, Kirill Lokshin wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Draft Code of Conduct for Technical Spaces

2017-03-07 Thread Risker
I am very curious. Why is it that there seems to be so much resistance to this draft code of conduct? This document closely parallels both the WMF friendly space policy and similar policies in the broader tech/developer community. It is also not that far from policies that exist on many Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Draft Code of Conduct for Technical Spaces

2017-03-07 Thread Pine W
Commenting generally (i.e. not specifically to Risker), this topic has been giving me enough of a headache that I would like to see some kind of path forward, preferably one with the most harmony. I suggest that what should happen based on my admittedly not-detailed look at the draft's history and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

2017-03-07 Thread Lilburne
It probably isn't fair. But then again without actually contacting the copyright holder the CC licenses are nothing more than a indicator that reuse may be OK. Then when you get into chains of derivatives you are in a world of pain. Websites are particularly prone to fouling up the licenses.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

2017-03-07 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Equally James, how is this advocacy "extremely helpful"? How does it help the building and maintainence of Wikimedia projects? How does it help the many volunteers who work on these projects? From: Wikimedia-l on behalf

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

2017-03-07 Thread Heather Walls
Hello, This has become an interesting and important conversation. First, many thanks to everyone as they bring their intellect, experience, and thoughtfulness to this topic. And thanks to Zack for many months of work organizing a complex project, with a theme that became increasingly sensitive

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

2017-03-07 Thread Lilburne
On 07/03/2017 02:24, James Forrester wrote: On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 at 18:14 Lilburne > wrote: For the last 12 years Flickr have a system where people can click on a link and get the HTML or BBCODE that properly attributes

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

2017-03-07 Thread Lilburne
On 06/03/2017 06:37, Gergő Tisza wrote: On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 6:06 AM, Todd Allen wrote: I'm not a German speaker, and I know context and nuance can be lost in machine translation. That being said, the one about someone who was offering attribution and then got slapped

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

2017-03-07 Thread James Salsman
Yair, Would you please explain what you mean by damaging? > To have a huge banner placed over every article on > the whole project linking to 43px-font blatant political > advocacy which can't be reverted, is really damaging. My opinion remains that 43pt blatant advocacy in support of both

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

2017-03-07 Thread Yair Rand
Risker has outlined many of the issues with the report much better than I would have been able to. While I'm happy to hear there will be some reordering and that one of the images will be replaced, the report still has many very serious problems. How can we fix this? I can think of a few options:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

2017-03-07 Thread James Salsman
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter wrote: > > Equally James, how is this advocacy "extremely helpful"? How does it help the > building and maintainence of Wikimedia projects? How does it help the many > volunteers who work on these projects? Taking a stand

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

2017-03-07 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
I can see how it can attract AND repel volunteers overall, just as we see it attractive and off-putting to people discussing on this list. From: Wikimedia-l on behalf of James Salsman Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the West Bengal Wikimedians User Group

2017-03-07 Thread Es Be
Thank you. And Congratulations! :) *“**OMNIA VINCIT AMOR**”* শুভেচ্ছান্তে, *সূর্যদেব বসু * *Sūrjodē**b Basu* ই surjodeb.b...@ashoka.edu.in * -"Everybody gets so much information all day long that they lose their common sense"- Gertrude Stein* On 7 March 2017 at 22:09, Kirill Lokshin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Draft Code of Conduct for Technical Spaces

2017-03-07 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/25/2017 02:15 PM, MZMcBride wrote: The "no conduct policy for technical spaces" argument was debunked here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-November/085573.html This is false. None of the three policies you cited are a code of conduct for technical spaces that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Draft Code of Conduct for Technical Spaces

2017-03-07 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 02/26/2017 01:23 PM, Adrian Raddatz wrote: The benefit to individual admins (and whatever the equivalent is on phab) making decisions about blocks is that you know who did it and how to appeal it. There is no equivalent on Phabricator. That just had enforcement by Developer Relations,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of the West Bengal Wikimedians User Group

2017-03-07 Thread Biyanto Rebin
Congratulations for West Bengal User Group! Best, 2017-03-07 23:39 GMT+07:00 Kirill Lokshin : > Hi everyone! > > I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized > the West Bengal Wikimedians User Group [1] as a Wikimedia User Group. > > The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of the Wikimaps User Group

2017-03-07 Thread Biyanto Rebin
Congratulations, Wikimaps user group! 2017-03-07 23:37 GMT+07:00 Kirill Lokshin : > Hi everyone! > > I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized > the Wikimaps User Group [1] as a Wikimedia User Group. > > The group aims to gather Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of the Wikimedians of Erzyan Language User Group

2017-03-07 Thread Biyanto Rebin
Yeay! Another language user group. Congratulations! 2017-03-07 23:38 GMT+07:00 Kirill Lokshin : > Hi everyone! > > I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized > the Wikimedians of Erzyan Language User Group [1] as a Wikimedia User > Group.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Draft Code of Conduct for Technical Spaces

2017-03-07 Thread MZMcBride
Risker wrote: >I am very curious. Why is it that there seems to be so much resistance to >this draft code of conduct? You may find these links helpful: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2017-February/086595.html

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Draft Code of Conduct for Technical Spaces

2017-03-07 Thread rupert THURNER
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 7:09 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > On 8 March 2017 at 06:45, MZMcBride wrote: >> Risker wrote: >> >I am very curious. Why is it that there seems to be so much resistance to >> >this draft code of conduct? >> >> You may find

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

2017-03-07 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
James On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 7:10 AM, you wrote: > > Do you think remaining politically neutral is compatible with > remaining accurate? > I would say yes. Let me put two converse questions to you. Do you believe truth and accuracy are to be found only at one ppint on the spectrum of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

2017-03-07 Thread Peter Southwood
Some political philosophies are more amenable to truth and accuracy than others. Facts about how the world is do not have any necessary connection to beliefs about how the world should be. Beliefs are not constrained by reality, facts are. Any overlap is coincidental. Cheers, Peter

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

2017-03-07 Thread Peter Southwood
Fighting against an inhumane stance is entirely a political move. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Amir Ladsgroup Sent: Wednesday, 08 March 2017 9:33 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

2017-03-07 Thread James Salsman
Pine, Which facts do you think the "facts matter" theme should have emphasized? Do you think remaining politically neutral is compatible with remaining accurate? To what extent does staying focused on mission involve pointing out issues with freedom and accuracy in society, in your view? On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

2017-03-07 Thread James Salsman
Rogol Domedonfors wrote: > > Do you believe truth and accuracy are to be found only > at one ppint on the spectrum of political belief? There is a very strong correlation which has, since November, become much stronger. Compare for example: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Draft Code of Conduct for Technical Spaces

2017-03-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, With all respect, the summary is not a summary. Wading through long, long more of the same is not helpful. We have had more of the same here on this list. Thanks, GerardM On 8 March 2017 at 06:45, MZMcBride wrote: > Risker wrote: > >I am very curious. Why is it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

2017-03-07 Thread Pine W
Hi Heather, Thanks for commenting. The theme of "facts matter" seems good to me, and I generally like Victor's video. However, the way that this report comes across to me is that it advocates for certain points of view on issues which, however important they may be (I happen to think global

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

2017-03-07 Thread Amir Ladsgroup
We are not taking a stand in different positions each party is taking on economical matters. No one here wearing a donkey hat. Problem begins when a party takes inhumane stance, fighting against it should not be considered a political move. Trust me, that's exactly what happened in Iran. Best On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Recognition of the Wikimaps User Group

2017-03-07 Thread Anna Stillwell
Congratulations. May the force be with you. :) /a On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Sydney Poore wrote: > Congratulations Wikimaps User Group and welcome to the Wikimedia > affiliate family. > Warm regards, > Sydney > > Sydney Poore > User:FloNight > Co-founder Kentucky