Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

2017-11-30 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Scott, The NC license clause is problematic in a number of jurisdictions. For example, at least in Germany, as I remember from my law classes, it also would definitively include not-for-profits, NGOs, and even say bloggers, with or without ads on their sites. One must always be careful in the choi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Tool to help reaching community consensus

2017-12-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Mathieu, you wrote > Despite the fact that reaching community consensus is an easy task, I just wanted to check whether that was a typo, irony, or actually meant that way. In the latter case, I would like to ask for {{cn}}. Reaching and establishing community consensus seems to me one of the ha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Tool to help reaching community consensus

2017-12-08 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Ah, thanks for the clarification. Sorry for having missed the irony. Cheers, Denny On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 2:39 AM mathieu stumpf guntz < psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote: > > > Le 07/12/2017 à 18:12, Denny Vrandečić a écrit : > > Mathieu, > > you wrote > >

[Wikimedia-l] (How) can I see the early revision history?

2021-10-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I wanted to see the beginning of the article about Jupiter. When I go to Jupiter's revision history and click on oldest, I get here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jupiter&dir=prev&action=history which takes me to the revision as of November 5, 2001: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index

[Wikimedia-l] Re: (How) can I see the early revision history?

2021-10-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Or even better, if there is a Web accessible version of these early edits. On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 5:57 PM Denny Vrandečić wrote: > I wanted to see the beginning of the article about Jupiter. > > When I go to Jupiter's revision history and click on oldest, I get h

[Wikimedia-l] Re: (How) can I see the early revision history?

2021-10-08 Thread Denny Vrandečić
web/20110614170356/http://noc.wikimedia.org/~tstarling/wikipedia-logs-2001-08-17.7z > > But it would still be nice to know that the archives are still maintained > by Wikimedia though. > > > > On Oct 7, 2021, at 8:58 PM, Denny Vrandečić > wrote: > > Or even better, if there is a We

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees new resolution on branding

2021-10-16 Thread Denny Vrandečić
On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 2:35 AM Andy Mabbett wrote: > Can they not do that already? > They already may. This resolution by the Board directs the Foundation to offer support for this task to the affiliates. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@l

[Wikimedia-l] License for Wikifunctions and Abstract Wikipedia

2021-11-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hello all, Here is a conversation and decision we need to have before launch of Wikifunctions: *How should the contents of Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions be licensed?* Since the discussion is expected to be potentially complicated, let us keep a single place of record for discussing this q

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: License for Wikifunctions and Abstract Wikipedia

2021-12-03 Thread Denny Vrandečić
e > messy and variable truths it actually depicts is an injustice. It is an > injustice not only for Wikipedians but also for people around the world who > use the resource — either directly on Wikimedia servers or indirectly via > other platforms like search." > > > > ---o0o-

[Wikimedia-l] Request for status update on CC-BY-SA 4.0

2018-05-13 Thread Denny Vrandečić
About one and a half years ago, there was a consultation process about updating the Wikimedia Terms of Use to move from CC 3.0 to 4.0 licenses. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use/Creative_Commons_4.0 I would like to ask what the status of this proposal is, and whom to bother to get this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-17 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Rob Speer wrote: > The result of this, by the way, is that commercial entities sell modified > versions of Wikidata with impunity. It undermines the terms of other > resources such as DBPedia, which also contains facts extracted from > Wikipedia and respects its Share-Alike terms. Why would anyone

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-18 Thread Denny Vrandečić
astian Hellmann < hellm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de> wrote: > Hi Denny, > > On 18.05.2018 02:54, Denny Vrandečić wrote: > > Rob Speer wrote: > > The result of this, by the way, is that commercial entities sell modified > > versions of Wikidata with impunity. It und

[Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in an abstract language

2018-09-29 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Semantic Web languages allow to express ontologies and knowledge bases in a way meant to be particularly amenable to the Web. Ontologies formalize the shared understanding of a domain. But the most expressive and widespread languages that we know of are human natural languages, and the largest know

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in an abstract language

2018-11-13 Thread Denny Vrandečić
published previously. On Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 11:32 Denny Vrandečić Semantic Web languages allow to express ontologies and knowledge bases in > a way meant to be particularly amenable to the Web. Ontologies formalize > the shared understanding of a domain. But the most expressive and > w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in an abstract language

2018-12-10 Thread Denny Vrandečić
ikely need to (continue to) > > include images as we create the abstractions, but also because one can > > potentially think of images as representations that are already abstract. > > > > Best, > > Leila > > > > -- > > Leila Zia > > Senior Research Scien

[Wikimedia-l] Feedback for chapter: "Collaborating on the sum of all knowledge across languages"

2019-07-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi all! I really try not to spam the chat too much with pointers to my work on the Abstract Wikipedia, but this one is probably also interesting for Wikidata contributors. It is the draft for a chapter submitted to Koerner and Reagle's Wikipedia@20 book, and talks about knowledge diversity under t

[Wikimedia-l] Proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia and a new Wikipedia project

2020-04-13 Thread Denny Vrandečić
As some of you know, I have been working on the idea of a multilingual Wikipedia for a few years now. Two other publications on this are here, I have bothered you with mails about it here previously too: https://research.google/pubs/pub48057/ https://wikipedia20.pubpub.org/pub/vyf7ksah I've also

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia and a new Wikipedia project

2020-04-14 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Yay! Thanks for the positive note! This is appreciated! Stay safe, Denny On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:44 AM Peter Southwood < peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > Based on my first read-through of the paper, I think this would be > something worth doing. > Cheers, > Peter. > > -Original Messa

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia and a new Wikipedia project

2020-04-14 Thread Denny Vrandečić
020 at 01:52, Denny Vrandečić wrote: > > > As some of you know, I have been working on the idea of a multilingual > > Wikipedia for a few years now. > > What's the elevator pitch for this? > > > -- > Andy Mabbett >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia and a new Wikipedia project

2020-04-14 Thread Denny Vrandečić
love to claim that the content translation framework is mine, it very much isn't. There is a wonderful team at the Foundation that has created and maintained this over years, and they recently had a rather stormy uptick in translations, having lead to more than 600,000 translated articles. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia and a new Wikipedia project

2020-04-20 Thread Denny Vrandečić
f your proposal, which I haven't come across yet? Thank you > for this great development! > > Cheers, > Scott > > > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 5:49 PM Denny Vrandečić > wrote: > > > Elevator pitch: > > > > Many Wikipedia language editions have large

[Wikimedia-l] Proposal for a multilingual Wikipedia

2020-05-05 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hello all, after talking about it a few times here, the official proposal for creating the multilingual Wikipedia proposal is now on Meta. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilambda The idea is to create abstract, language-independent content in Wikidata, and then translate it into natural langu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal for a multilingual Wikipedia

2020-05-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
posal and setting this up formally as > a sibling projet? > > Is there anything Wikispore could do to help get something like this > underway? //S > > On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 3:28 PM Denny Vrandečić > wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > after talking a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-02 Thread Denny Vrandečić
languages, and innovate in > > free knowledge by connecting some of the strengths of our movement to > > create something new. > > > > This is our first new project in over seven years. Abstract Wikipedia was > > submitted as a project proposal by Denny Vrandečić in Ma

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-03 Thread Denny Vrandečić
cooperation easier on our >> projects, increase the sustainability of our movement through expanding >> access to participation, improve the user experience for readers of all >> languages, and innovate in free knowledge by connecting some of the >> strengths of our movem

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-03 Thread Denny Vrandečić
l fashion, allowing more contributors >> and more readers to share more knowledge in more languages. It is an >> approach that aims to make cross-lingual cooperation easier on our >> projects, increase the sustainability of our movement through expanding >> access to part

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-07-05 Thread Denny Vrandečić
gt; > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Butch Bustria > > > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 12:39 AM Denny Vrandečić > wrote: > > > > > Katherine, thank you for the warm welcome and your kind words! > > > > > > I am very happy to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Government of Navarre will fund BWUG

2020-07-25 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Congratulations! Looking forward to see the results of this initiative! On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 2:54 AM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < galder...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Dear all, > It is a real pleasure to announce the agreement reached between Basque > Wikimedians User Group and the Government of Nav

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing a new Wikimedia project: Abstract Wikipedia

2020-08-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Scott, thank you for raising this really important issue, and I whole-heartedly agree. Since I heard of Ibram X. Kendi's argument to not just be not racist but rather be actively anti-racist, I thought a lot about it (I have a long essay trying to sort my thoughts on that, but I am not sure my voi

[Wikimedia-l] Account of the events leading to James Heilman's removal

2016-05-02 Thread Denny Vrandečić
In the following I want to present a personal account of events leading to James’ removal as a Board member, as I remember them. It was written while I was still on the Board, and the Board agreed on having it sent. The text was heavily discussed and edited amongst members of the Board, but in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Account of the events leading to James Heilman's removal

2016-05-02 Thread Denny Vrandečić
gt; > Just to be sure I understand the issue: staff members reached out > > specifically to the four of you and asked for confidentiality, and then > the > > Board demanded 'all documents', presumably including some confidential > > staff information, and James only very

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Account of the events leading to James Heilman's removal

2016-05-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Just a few points of clarification: * I have, to the best of my memory, passed on information only with the understanding of my sources. If any of my sources disagrees with that, please send me a message - I want to know and understand that I made a mistake there. * We are not talking about the in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] GPS data shift

2016-10-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Wikidata allows to set a coordinate system - it is called a globe or coordinate system - on every coordinate. This would be the natural place to specify whether it is WGS84 or GDA94 or another system. Most of them are Q2, which, as per data model, is indeed WGS84. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] GPS data shift

2016-10-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
16 at 2:23 PM Jan Macura wrote: > > 2016-10-07 20:34 GMT+02:00 Denny Vrandečić : > > Wikidata allows to set a coordinate system - it is called a globe or > coordinate system - on every coordinate. This would be the natural place to > specify whether it is WGS84 or GDA94 or anoth

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Exciting update about development of structured data on Commons

2017-01-09 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Also, to add, for this particular grant I can really only look positively at the openness surrounding the writing of the grant. There have been emails on this list inviting input and discussion when the grant proposal was underway, a lot of content was available on-wiki, and an effort was made to e

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Exciting update about development of structured data on Commons

2017-01-10 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Rogol, this was the link previously provided on this project: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data/Overview including links to previous documents. Cheers, Denny On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 9:32 AM Rogol Domedonfors wrote: > Lisa > > You say that "Structured Data on Commons w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Exciting update about development of structured data on Commons

2017-01-10 Thread Denny Vrandečić
e Wikimedia Foundation" referred to in Wes > Moran's initial post on this topic: > > But I appreciate the speed of your reply. > > "Rogol" > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Denny Vrandečić > wrote: > > > Rogol, > > > > this was

Re: [Wikimedia-l] GA Stats using Wikimedia Stats

2015-08-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Wikidata should know whether an article has a badge or not (see here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1156 ) On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 4:14 AM Tito Dutta wrote: > Thanks a lot. It was very helpful > No, most of these Wikipedias don't have such categories. I'll check > further. > Regards. > > On 19

[Wikimedia-l] On toxic communities

2015-11-13 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Very interesting read (via Brandon Harris): http://recode.net/2015/07/07/doing-something-about-the-impossible-problem-of-abuse-in-online-games/ "the vast majority of negative behavior ... did not originate from the persistently negative online citizens; in fact, 87 percent of online toxicity came

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues

2015-12-11 Thread Denny Vrandečić
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 4:18 AM Andreas Kolbe wrote: > According to Denny, Wikidata, under its CC0 licence, must not import data > from Share-Alike sources. He reconfirmed this yesterday when I asked him > whether he still stood by that. > > In practice though we have Wikidata importing massive a

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikidata-l] Birthday gift: Missing Wikipedia links (was Re: Wikidata turns two!)

2014-10-29 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Forwarding to Wikimedia-l to five context to James' reply. Sorry for cross-posting. -- Forwarded message - From: Denny Vrandečić Date: Wed Oct 29 2014 at 10:56:48 AM Subject: [Wikidata-l] Birthday gift: Missing Wikipedia links (was Re: Wikidata turns two!) To: Discussion lis

[Wikimedia-l] Q on the 2013 elections re voter breakdown

2015-04-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi, regarding the Wikimedia Foundation elections 2013, I was trying to find a breakdown of the voters, i.e. how many voted based on which requirements, i.e. as editors, developers, staff and contractors, and board members, but I could not find anything. I would appreciate a pointer to that data.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q on the 2013 elections re voter breakdown

2015-04-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
from there but once they voted, if they were eligible, > they went into one giant bucket. > > James Alexander > Community Advocacy > Wikimedia Foundation > (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Katie Chan wrote: > > > On 0

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A transition and a new chapter.

2015-04-14 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Erik, thank you! Thank you for so many, many things. Even though we did not always agree in all details, I was always very happy to know to have someone who believes in the same ideals and who is effective in promoting actions towards common goals. WMF will be a different place without you. Agai

Re: [Wikimedia-l] While Election committee counts the votes...

2015-05-31 Thread Denny Vrandečić
25% turnout is amazing!! Thank you, and congratulations to WM UA, particularly given the political situation at home. I also collected a few thoughts about the elections here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Denny/Thoughts_Board_Election_2015 Thanks to the Election Committee and everyone els

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

2013-04-24 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Erik, all, sorry for the long mail. Incidentally, I have been thinking in this direction myself for a while, and I have come to a number of conclusions: 1) the Wikimedia movement can not, in its current state, tackle the problem of machine translation of arbitrary text from and to all of our supp

[Wikimedia-l] Branding and visibility of sister projects Re: The case for supporting open source machine translation

2013-04-24 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Aubrey, 2013/4/24 Andrea Zanni > I feel that we could boost a lot the idea of a "family of projects", of an > integrated, global, comprehensive approach to knowledge. > Right now, the fact is that Wikipedia both attracts and cannibalizes users > to/from sister projects, which are kinda invisibl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

2013-04-25 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Erik, 2013/4/25 Erik Moeller > > The system I am really aiming at is a different one, and there has > > been plenty of related work in this direction: imagine a wiki where you > > enter or edit content, sentence by sentence, but the natural language > > representation is just a surface syntax fo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

2013-04-25 Thread Denny Vrandečić
2013/4/25 Brion Vibber > You are blowing my mind, dude. :) > Glad to do hear :) I suspect this approach won't serve for everything, but it sounds > *awesome*. If we can tie natural-language statements directly to data nodes > (rather than merely annotating vague references like we do today), t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

2013-04-25 Thread Denny Vrandečić
2013/4/25 Mathieu Stumpf > What would be the limits you would expect from your solution, because you > can't expect to just "translate" everything. Form may be a part of the > meaning. It's clear that you can't translate a poem for example. Sur > wikipedia is not primary concerned about poetry, b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

2013-06-02 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Peter, we stand up to big bullies. As big as they get. But in this case, I cannot see the WTO bullying us. Their terms are very reasonable in my opinion, and I am grateful to the legal team for handling this situation this well. But in this case, we are talking about either changing a non-establis

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What community initiatives have made an impact on editor engagement?

2013-07-05 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Wait - removing the captchas lead to a decrease of reverted edits in terms of absolute numbers? Woot? Anyone has an explanation for that? 2013/7/5 Federico Leva (Nemo) > The recent community initiative with the highest impact I can think of is > surely what Platonides and other members of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] article bytes more meaningful than users or revisions (was Re: Updates on VE data analysis)

2013-07-27 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Thank you for the observation. Is the graph based on actual data? Because it looks just tad bit too linear to me. (I do not disagree with the finding, just wondering about the graph itself). I still would worry, though: our content is increasing linearly, as you s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why the WP will never be a real encyclopaedia

2013-08-01 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Rui, if your basic assumption is that Wikipedia will never be a real encyclopedia because of the lack of diversity among its contributors, I would like to know of any other encyclopedia that is anywhere close to the diversity among its contributors that Wikipedia has (just a side-note, the origina

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why the WP will never be a real encyclopaedia

2013-08-01 Thread Denny Vrandečić
> but YOU and I cannot change it? Can you tell me that you have not come > across editors who are hell-bent on preserving this or that article just as > it is? > > Rui > > On 1 August 2013 22:40, Denny Vrandečić >wrote: > > > Rui, > > > > if your basic

[Wikimedia-l] A proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia

2013-08-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I have been thinking about this for a while, and now finally managed to write it down as a proposal. Details are on meta on the following link, below is the intro to the proposal: I tried to anticipate some possible ques

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia

2013-08-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
history, > geography, politics...)? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin > > > 2013/8/7 Denny Vrandečić > > > I have been thinking about this for a while, and now finally managed to > > write it down as a proposal. Details are on meta on the following link, > > below is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia

2013-08-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
to be > included in such a tool > > Anders > > > Denny Vrandečić skrev 2013-08-07 02:20: > >> I have been thinking about this for a while, and now finally managed to >> write it down as a proposal. Details are on meta on the following link, >> below is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia

2013-08-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
will be a > > possibility to evolve this concept further in some type of workgroup. I > > also see an interesting relation to the talk of machine translation > where I > > believe we can do a lot very quickly if we limit the vocabulary to be > > included in such a tool > &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata-l] Meeting about the support of Wiktionary in Wikidata

2013-08-09 Thread Denny Vrandečić
We are keeping notes on Etherpad http://epl.wikimedia.org/p/WiktionaryAndWikidata If connectivity allows, you can also try to connect via Hangout or Skype or IRC. Ping aude or me on #wikimedia-wikidata on IRC. Cheers, Denny 2013/8/10 Samuel Klein > Hello, > > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 6:13 P

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata-l] Meeting about the support of Wiktionary in Wikidata

2013-08-10 Thread Denny Vrandečić
[Sorry for cross-posting] Yes, I agree that the OmegaWiki community should be involved in the discussions, and I pointed GerardM to our proposals whenever and discussions, using him as a liaison. We also looked and keep looking at the OmegaWiki data model to see what we are missing. Our latest pr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia

2013-08-23 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Using a rather simple pair like Afrikaans - Dutch or a heavily researched one like English - Spanish would be giving us a wrong impression of how this will scale. We should at least add a few random pairs like Yoruba - Gujarati or Kazakh - Lombard. Most of our 67,000 language pairs that we will hav

Re: [Wikimedia-l] is wikipedia zero illegal because it violates net neutrality?

2013-08-26 Thread Denny Vrandečić
There is a crucial difference: Wikipedia Zero is not a general way to provide access to the Internet for free, it provides access to parts of Wikipedia for free through partnering carriers. Wikipedia Zero is not in violation of net neutrality in the first place, as Wikipedia Zero is not an internet

Re: [Wikimedia-l] is wikipedia zero illegal because it violates net neutrality?

2013-08-27 Thread Denny Vrandečić
If customers would be signing up for access to the net, and if the ISP would charge differently whether they access Wikipedia or whether they access Facebook, yes, that would be a violation of net neutrality. But in this case we are not talking about providing access to the net. We are talking abo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] is wikipedia zero illegal because it violates net neutrality?

2013-08-27 Thread Denny Vrandečić
2013/8/27 Federico Leva (Nemo) > Denny Vrandečić, 27/08/2013 11:39: > > That's like saying >> "printing out an article of Wikipedia and giving it to a student is a >> violation of net neutrality because we didn't print out the rest of the >> Web >&g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and the politics of encryption

2013-09-02 Thread Denny Vrandečić
There are three groups to consider, readers, contributors without and contributors with specific rights that allow them access to data which is not publicly visible anyway: For readers: Readers will not have reduced access to knowledge. I think that runs against our mission. There are a number of

[Wikimedia-l] Language links and double language links on the Wikipedias

2012-06-25 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi all, I ran some analysis last week, to get some numbers out of the Wikipedia language links. One type of reports that were generated was the list of all articles in the main namespaces of the Wikipedias that link to more than one article in another language edition of Wikipedia (so called doubl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] IRC office hours "The future of e-mail usage in Wikimedia projects" 2012-07-18 16:30 UTC

2012-06-26 Thread Denny Vrandečić
2012/6/26 Risker : > On 25 June 2012 13:56, Steven Walling wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Risker wrote: >> > Excuse me. Just about a month ago, we had a discussion about spreading >> out >> > the times during which office hours would be hosted. Instead of increased >> > diversity in t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Language links and double language links on the Wikipedias

2012-06-26 Thread Denny Vrandečić
hat split them, such as [[da:Magni]] and [[da:Modi]]. It's not clear what >> to do about these cases. >> >> Best, >> Mark >> >> >> On 6/25/12 12:29 PM, Denny Vrandečić wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I ran some a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Language links and double language links on the Wikipedias

2012-06-26 Thread Denny Vrandečić
ivery" system might help you in that: > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery > > Best regards, > Bence > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Denny Vrandečić < > denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I ran some analy

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Language links and double language links on the Wikipedias

2012-06-26 Thread Denny Vrandečić
page in each project. If updating it immediately is too > burdensome in terms of performance, it can be updated in batches every > week or so. The reason it should be a special page is that it will > look like an integrated site feature and that it will be easy to > localize its interface.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Language links and double language links on the Wikipedias

2012-06-26 Thread Denny Vrandečić
lin Hackathon. It > sounds much higher than what my (very scientifically relevant, > obviously) gut feeling tells me. Could you indicate where this number > is coming from? > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Denny Vrandečić > wrote: >> Ziko, >> >> it does

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A task list for a beginning project

2012-07-31 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Wikidata will still help with the task at hand, but it should be formulated as: - Translate certain templates, like city templates etc., to the target language - Provide labels to relevant items on Wikidata in the target language Simplified this means the template ''City'' Country: {{#getfro

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A task list for a beginning project

2012-07-31 Thread Denny Vrandečić
2012/7/31 Denny Vrandečić : > Country: {{#getfromwikidata:country}} And this is just a place holder syntax for now. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-17 Thread Denny Vrandečić
If WMF had a Steve Jobs on staff, everyone would hate him for making decisions without properly consulting the community, for destroying the community, for reinventing Wikimedia again, for making unpopular decisions, for making decisions behind close doors, for being an egomaniac, etc. Heck, we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The new narrowed focus by WMF (cleaner version), apology

2012-10-26 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Just a comment on the discussion: I would find it refreshing if people were not defending funds that apply mostly to themselves. I saw, in discussions of the essay, arguments by researchers saying that more money should go to researchers, by fellows and want-to-be fellows that the fellowship progr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF narrowing focus (was Re: Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 105, Issue 1)

2012-12-04 Thread Denny Vrandečić
As far as I understood the rationale for the narrowing, the idea is not to safe money but to safe people. By focusing on what the Foundation's tasks should be and by letting go of the others, you reduce stress on people as you allow them to concentrate on a smaller set of tasks. Focus brings flow b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are there plans for interactions between wikidata and wiktionaries ?

2013-03-11 Thread Denny Vrandečić
There is currently a number of things going on re the future of Wiktionary. There is, for example, the suggestion to adopt OmegaWiki, which could potentially complicate a Wikibase-Solution in the future (but then again, structured data is often rather easy to transform):

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are there plans for interactions between wikidata and wiktionaries ?

2013-03-11 Thread Denny Vrandečić
w it can evolve, and if it even should. And I do not think that a cross-mailing list discussion like the current one is the right place, and I do not even know where the right place is. So, first question: where should this discussion take place? Cheers, Denny 2013/3/11 Federico Leva (Nemo) &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are there plans for interactions between wikidata and wiktionaries ?

2013-03-11 Thread Denny Vrandečić
e things > that fulfil a need, that have a purpose. > Thanks, > GerardM > > > On 11 March 2013 15:51, Denny Vrandečić >wrote: > > > Sorry about the wrong link, I meant this IEG proposal: > > > > < > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-17 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Orkus was never "took over" by Google - it was created by Google in the first place and always operated by them. 2013/3/17 Rand McRanderson > Orkut used to dominate outside US and Europe. Then Google took over, > neglected it and Facebook moved in. Classic big company takes small company > an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikidata opinion piece in The Atlantic

2012-04-11 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I agree that Mark has written a nice article, but I disagree with some of his conclusions, as you can find in my comment on the page (alas, not permalinkable). Andreas, do you think that it is easier to monopolise and manipulate information on Wikidata, visible to potentially many editors and user

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Write about Wikipedia Zero!

2012-04-30 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I mentioned Wikipedia Zero in the last few talks that I gave about Wikidata, and I always got great feedback on that part. I agree with SJ that this is an amazing initiative that should be known better! 2012/4/29 Samuel Klein > Wikipedia Zero is starting to get more attention recently. We could

[Wikimedia-l] Re: ChatGPT as a reliable source

2023-05-17 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I think Jimmy's proposal is spot on. A generative AI is a tool, and whoever makes the edit is fully responsible for the edit, no matter whether the text was written by the person or with the help of a generative tool. This has the potential to open us for people who are not good at formulating, or

[Wikimedia-l] wikifunctions.org is gradually rolling out (with caveats)

2023-08-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hello everybody, we are pleased to announce that Wikifunctions is up and running at http://www.wikifunctions.org/ After a few days in read-only, the website now has some limited functionality for you to try out. Thank you to everyone who helped deploy our first new Wikimedia project in over 12 ye