Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove

2013-08-07 Thread Rodney Brown
I've never used a NLA generated citation template, but have added many templates generated by Diberri's template filler, the google books tool, DOIBot and by hand. (RDBrown) Like the British Library, Library of Congress, Worldcat or Google the NLA doesn't (from a quick look) provide structure

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove

2013-08-07 Thread Graham Pearce
Indeed, I've submitted bug reports to the NLA about the Wikipedia citation formatting. In addition to what Liam said, they're not so easy to fix automatically ... Graham On 7/08/2013 6:33 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote: Thanks Mark, Nick, Gideon, In response to your points thus far, (and others - plea

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove

2013-08-07 Thread Liam Wyatt
Nicely spotted Mark. Thanks. wittylama.com Peace, love & metadata On 7 August 2013 12:48, Mark Hurd wrote: > I just want to point out a slight variation on the cites provided by > these two URLs: > > http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/5811404 > > http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/163116758?versionI

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove

2013-08-07 Thread Mark Hurd
I just want to point out a slight variation on the cites provided by these two URLs: http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/5811404 http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/163116758?versionId=13644 compared to the newspaper one: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/71368302 Note how the former two act

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove

2013-08-07 Thread Paul Foord
I have used Trove for predominantly newspaper articles in biographies, occasionally other encylopaedic articles. The ability to reference publications by author using the Wikipedia citation has also been useful. See for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawford_Pasco - having the underscores an

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove

2013-08-07 Thread Gnangarra
If the NLA page has the WP citation, currenlty its just *Citation Details* *Use the following url to begin from this point:* * http://www.nla.gov.au/amad/nla.oh-vn5811404/5-2 * *Or this url to play only the portion of audio:* * http://www.nla.gov.au/amad/nla.oh-vn5811404/5-2~5-4 *I'd probably j

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove

2013-08-07 Thread Liam Wyatt
That's an interesting example Gnang - that link you gave is to an oral history that's in the NLA collection and happens to be digitised and online. Not all are, but this one is. Moreover, this one is part of a new system the NLA has (to which all oral histories are progressively being migrated) whi

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove

2013-08-07 Thread Gnangarra
as to where the citation needs to available its any where from which editors draw information from Trove, including, newspapers, magazines, audio(http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/163116758) On 7 August 2013 18:33, Liam Wyatt wrote: > Thanks Mark, Nick, Gideon, > > In response to your points thus far

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove

2013-08-07 Thread Liam Wyatt
Thanks Mark, Nick, Gideon, In response to your points thus far, (and others - please send me any responses you have too!) The general gist, if I can put it this way, is "the current cite code is working, don't fix it until it's broken". Which is good to hear :-) This answers my question no.1, but

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove

2013-08-07 Thread Gnangarra
When using Trove I use the cite template, for everything I source from Trove, I havent sourced images form Trove as I get them from the source site though I do find them through Trove. As for functionality, making or changing to suit the requirements of Visual editor isnt a good idea as Nick point

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove

2013-08-07 Thread Nick Dowling
Hi Liam, I've used Trove for quite a few articles. In response to your questions: 1) Given that experienced Wikipedia editors are still mainly using wiki code, and will probably do so for some time, the pre-filled wiki mark up remains very useful. 2) I agree that this functionality is mainly use