PM, things are decided on Wikimedia Australia by committee, not consensus -
this isn't Wikipedia. And I've had a few financial members write to me or
chat with me since this debate of sorts opened with concerns similar to
Craig's re observations on WM-UK - basically saying the committee members
wou
I sent in a donation in lieu of joining and I don't really remember
why... but it was something to do with too much trouble to meet the
requirements to join...
FWIW, Cheers, Richard.
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Fellow members and supporters,
A key priority for 2009-10 has to be building the chapter and make it
successful.
Before being elected to my present role, I heard lots of people saying they
felt this chapter was overly Sydney- and Melbourne-focussed not just in
activity but in priorities. There wa
As the new treasurer of the Wiki-Aus I have been reading this discussion with
some interest and I now make the following comment.
I am in support of Sarah's continual point that only financial members should
be able to edit the official wiki for many reasons,
however the below snippet from Andr
Hi Richard,
Thanks for supporting the chapter. If you can remember the exact reasons you
decided not to join, we can talk about it. Unfortunately the membership
requirements are set down in both the Association Rules and the Victorian
legislation and there's not much flexibility. I'm personally no
Hear hear!
I'd like to add some of my own to cents to this discussion. The turnover in
Queensland isn't quite as bad, but based on the secretary's report and my
own observations of who's been showing up to the AGMs, we had a forty
percent turnover of membership in the last year. As Andrew say
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:41:25 +0800
Andrew wrote:
> Fellow members and supporters,
>
> A key priority for 2009-10 has to be building the chapter and make it
> successful.
> Using the figures from the secretary's report at the AGM, in regional
> terms our numbers were stable, here in WA we went f
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:33:51 +1100
Richard Ames wrote:
>
> I sent in a donation in lieu of joining and I don't really remember
> why... but it was something to do with too much trouble to meet the
> requirements to join...
>
> FWIW, Cheers, Richard.
Hm...
I got as far as looking at memberdb's
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:44:09 +1000
"Craig Franklin" wrote:
> Perhaps a compromise between the "no access for non-members" and "open
> access" viewpoints is in order. We could open access to everyone,
> provided they had an account. Accounts would still need to be
> approved by someone to weed
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:15:56 +1100
Peter Halasz wrote:
> Sarah,
>
> The only actual reason you've given for not opening up the wiki to
> non-members is because of fear of vandalism.
>
> Ok, so we have a problem: Potential vandalism.
>
> Solutions?
>
> 1. Actually observe actual vandalism befo
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:57:02 +1100
Brian Salter-Duke wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 11:09:58AM +1100, Peter Halasz wrote:
> > So lock those specific pages. Have you ever used Wikipedia? Do you
> > think it would exist if they were worried only about representation?
>
> I will try to respond to
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:29:13 +0800
Andrew wrote:
> I think the post at
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaau-l/2009-December/002764.html
encapsulates
> quite well the sort of challenges that chapter websites face
> which, for example, Wikipedia does not. The fact of legal
> registrat
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:45:40 +1100
Virtual Steve wrote:
>
> As the new treasurer of the Wiki-Aus I have been reading this
> discussion with some interest and I now make the following comment.
Congrats on your election then!
> I am in support of Sarah's continual point that only financial
> mem
>
> > Fellow members and supporters,
> >
> > A key priority for 2009-10 has to be building the chapter and make it
> > successful.
>
> > Using the figures from the secretary's report at the AGM, in regional
> > terms our numbers were stable, here in WA we went from 5 to 3 members
> > (I am in fact
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Karl Goetz wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:33:51 +1100
> Richard Ames wrote:
>
> >
> > I sent in a donation in lieu of joining and I don't really remember
> > why... but it was something to do with too much trouble to meet the
> > requirements to join...
> >
> >
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:16:10 +1100
Sarah Ewart wrote:
> >
> > > Fellow members and supporters,
> > >
> > > A key priority for 2009-10 has to be building the chapter and
> > > make it successful.
> >
> > > Using the figures from the secretary's report at the AGM, in
> > > regional terms our number
Just to say that I also agree with membership concerns and it's something
that's worried me for a long time, just from being aware of the membership
from membership records and it's something that's going to need to be
addressed for the viability of the chapter in the medium-long term. I don't
thin
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:18:22 +
Liam Wyatt wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Karl Goetz
> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:33:51 +1100
> > Richard Ames wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I sent in a donation in lieu of joining and I don't really
> > > remember why... but it was something to
In fact, I don't even think that Sydney should be lumped in with Sydney when
talking about chapter activity in the last year :-) IIRC the only "official
Chaper events" that happened in real life last year were GLAM-WIKI
(Canberra), a Backstage Pass (Sydney), Linux-Australia conference booth
(Hobart
Hi,
Before I reply, I'll note that I actually agree with Sarah here re Melbourne
- it's also evidenced by Victoria's membership following the national trend
rather than NSW/ACT's.
2009/12/13 Liam Wyatt
> So, if there is a concern that the chapter is focusing too much on Sydney
> (and/or Melbour
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 11:15:35PM +1030, Karl Goetz wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:57:02 +1100
> Brian Salter-Duke wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 11:09:58AM +1100, Peter Halasz wrote:
> > > So lock those specific pages. Have you ever used Wikipedia? Do you
> > > think it would exist if th
> Would this be a good way to empower more local activities around the
> country?
What if there was a "national meetup day" for Australia, when we got a
banner displayed on the Wikimedia sites for any Australian IP addresses,
that told people about their nearest meetup? And then we'd have a meetup
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 2:45 AM, Andrew wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Before I reply, I'll note that I actually agree with Sarah here re
> Melbourne - it's also evidenced by Victoria's membership following the
> national trend rather than NSW/ACT's.
>
In fact, melbourne's situation may actually be even worse
There has been a lot of discussion about the official wiki and who
should be able to edit it. This is in response to the whole debate, so I
have not kept any other comments.
This wiki is the official wiki. It is how we present ourselves, not just
to members, but to prospective members, to regulato
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 2:45 AM, Andrew wrote:
>
> This assumes that meetups will fix the perception problem. I don't think it
> will - they're good for social purposes but not much else.
...
> I work in education and I know that allowing people to own their successes
> increases their willingness
It seems there are a variety of arguments that have now been put forward
against opening up editing to non-members:
* "It's a member benefit" - I think we all agree that this is no longer held
as a valid claim. IIRC this was the SOLE reason why we didn't have open
editing to start with, but no mat
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 02:05:42PM +1100, Liam Wyatt wrote:
> It seems there are a variety of arguments that have now been put forward
> against opening up editing to non-members:
>
> * "It's a member benefit" - I think we all agree that this is no longer held
> as a valid claim. IIRC this was the
2009/12/14 Stephen Bain
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 2:45 AM, Andrew wrote:
> >
> > This assumes that meetups will fix the perception problem. I don't think
> it
> > will - they're good for social purposes but not much else.
> ...
> > I work in education and I know that allowing people to own their
I've been chipping away a bit on the wiki, and thought I should probably
report this error which now appears at the top of the page;
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