Dear all,
Taking some liberty to speak on behapf of the chapter, I can promise you
all that the Chapter's board, being newly restructured now, are working
very hard these days to turn around many of the the ways it has been
working through.
We are trying to become more accommodative, diverse,
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:
If we are looking at any sort of unity, lets first pick out our own faults
before pointing the finger at others.
+1 Arun Ganesh
Anarchy just for the cause of anarchy and authoritarianism just for the
cause of
Hi Sudhanwa,
I agree with your views. Excellently answered.
Ravi
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+Viswapraba, if we works under one umbrella instead of creating
thousand user group, we can flourish better way! Although WMI chapter
users group , both are necessary ! But I can say that users group may be
die after inactive of main initiator , WMI chapter will not.
Regards,
Jayanta Nath
Hoi,
Ok.. so explain to me why the chapter is not able to provide funding for
viable projects. Do remember that the qualifiers for funding are
essentially the same; they have to pass the requirements of the WMF. When
the chapter has its own independent funding, it can allocate as it sees fit.
I
Gerard,
//so explain to me why the chapter is not able to provide funding for
viable projects.//
The problem is very simple. Chapter can fund only if it has the money.
Last year's chapter's total budget was around 18 lakh INR and the amount
of microgrants they can give for communities will be
Hi,
I think the Chapter should consider why it's membership base is so low. I would
suggest that the Chapter undertake a membership drive after the elections and
use the same to understand why the Community members are not becoming members
of the Chapter. I believe this would be an instructive
//I only notice negative attitudes//
Yes, it is a problem for people who want a free run experimenting in India.
Compared to the huge amount of subscribers this list has, the number of
participants has probably not exceeded 20 in the last one year.
This indicates that the discussions
Hi Pradeep,
Yes, the chapter needs to do a membership drive. It also needs to have a
membership policy to make sure that only people who genuinely work towards
the mission are enrolled. Mass enrolment without any criterion can be a
governance disaster later. However, these things are best
Hi Arun,
//Compared to the huge amount of subscribers this list has, the number of
participants has probably not exceeded 20 in the last one year//
Even for WMF's FDC proposal in Meta, only a handful of people participated.
Hi,
* Chapter, user groups and online wikimedia project communities need not be
mutually exclusive.
* A user group need not be created just for the sake of it without clear
idea of the problem that it intends to solve and which cannot be solved by
other already available means.
For example,
Do I need permission from the chapter to start a Wikipedia editors club
in my neighbourhood?
To answer just this simple, technical question: no, there is no
restriction, and any group is welcome to seek recognition independently of
the chapter, and does not need its permission.
See
Hi Vikram,
I meant that the SIG system is similar to the User Group system. In the SIG
affiliation is to the Chapter and in the User Group, the affiliation is to WMF
directly.
The need for direct affiliation is felt because the Chapter does not seem to be
democratic (as you call it).
HI,
On 7 September 2014 11:38, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com
wrote:
I meant that the SIG system is similar to the User Group system. In the
SIG affiliation is to the Chapter and in the User Group, the affiliation
is to WMF directly.
The need for direct affiliation is felt
Hi,
The activity of the Chapter and the User Groups should flow to forward the
movement.
Chapter is not democratically elected by the Community. It is a subset of the
Community, recognised by WMF. There is a large Community member pool who are
not Chapter members, whose membership stands
Hi,
Doing a bit more analysis on your suggestion.
On 7 September 2014 13:15, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com
wrote:
The activity of the Chapter and the User Groups should flow to forward the
movement.
It does not appear that way. Your suggestion seems to point to a more
On Sep 6, 2014 8:03 AM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:
About a year ago there was some interest in creating a Mediawiki India
group but met with opposition from the chapter.
Is there currently a restriction on creating user groups independent of
the chapter? It would be good to
Hi,
It is perhaps worth considering a format of having multiple user groups model
in India rather than having one central Wikimedia India Chapter.
I do not think that the Chapter in its current form is representative of the
Wikimedia Community in India. I have asked the Chapter to hold
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
It is perhaps worth considering a format of having multiple user groups
model in India rather than having one central Wikimedia India Chapter.
About a year ago there was some interest in creating a
Pradeep,
Let us brainstorm ideas like these at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Community_Consultation_2014#Agenda
Ravi
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Hi,
On 3 September 2014 09:38, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com
wrote:
It is perhaps worth considering a format of having multiple user groups
model in India rather than having one central Wikimedia India Chapter.
Having user groups which function democratically also ensures that
Dear all,
Having intensively spent more than two years within the chapter and many
more years within one of the better performing communities, I would like to
input a few points:
1. *Despite its being a single large political entity, India is a diverse
heterogeneous amalgam of umpteen cultures,
Hi Vikram,
There is already a provision for this in the Chapter. It is called Special
Interest Groups (SIG). Only suffers from the lack of an imaginative name, but
it is effectively what you are trying to suggest here.
Warm regards,
Pradeep
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On 07-Sep-2014, at 0:25,
Dear Vishwa,
I think the Chapter EC should analyse (internally, at the very least) why this
has not happened in 4 years of the Chapter's existence in India. See membership
numbers from the various communities and see if the data the Chapter has
reflects confidence in the Chapter.
My argument
Arun,
The Chapter is a legally recognised affiliate of the Chapter. WMF User Groups
are also defined to be something like affiliates designed to share similar
arrangements to what the Chapter has. As a gesture, the Affiliations Committee
does consult the Chapter as the official affiliate in
On 7 September 2014 07:29, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com
wrote:
There is already a provision for this in the Chapter. It is called Special
Interest Groups (SIG). Only suffers from the lack of an imaginative name,
but it is effectively what you are trying to suggest here.
I have
Oh!
Re: The user groups can affiliate themselves with the chapter, which is the
official body of Wikimedia India, if they want to.
Warm regards,
Pradeep
Sent from my iPhone
On 07-Sep-2014, at 8:32, Vikram Vincent vincentvik...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7 September 2014 07:29, Pradeep Mohandas
The SIG reply still seems to have no connection to your original mail and
my reply.
On 7 September 2014 09:42, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com
wrote:
Oh!
Re: The user groups can affiliate themselves with the chapter, which is
the official body of Wikimedia India, if they want
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