Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-29 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
While I don't know about the Foundation folks, several editors have already contacted me on this matter and have taken notes. Who knows, we may just have to change our approach. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikim

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-29 Thread Aditya Sengupta
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:41, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Here you go: > Maybe this is just with me, I don't have a great audience on Twitter, and > I doubt it if anyone else has tried this: > > Take the case of Actor Siddharth. His article on enwiki used to say > S

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-26 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Here you go: Maybe this is just with me, I don't have a great audience on Twitter, and I doubt it if anyone else has tried this: Take the case of Actor Siddharth. His article on enwiki used to say Siddharth Narayan. He tweeted out [Verified account] saying that his name was Siddharth Suryanarayan

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-26 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
Is there a prize for answering these questions? These questions look odd without context/clarification. Pradeep On 26 March 2012 11:14, Hisham wrote: > > > On Mar 26, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Pradeep Mohandas wrote: > > Hi, > > The conversation is moving off topic. Perhaps the question to mull over

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-26 Thread Gautam John
On 26 March 2012 14:37, Srikanth Ramakrishnan wrote: > Also, let us NOT mix Social Media with Wikipedia. I don't want people posing > 'Wl u be mai frnd' on my Talk page. > Social Media and Wikipedia, is a big NONO. I'm curious. Why do you say, so? What are the other paths to get new editors in

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-26 Thread Aditya Sengupta
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 15:14, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'd send it privately as a mil to you alone. > I did it as a volunteer. > Remember, the WMF has hired someone to do the same. They may have more > 'working' ideas. > Of course. Of course. But perhaps an exp

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-26 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
I'd send it privately as a mil to you alone. I did it as a volunteer. Remember, the WMF has hired someone to do the same. They may have more 'working' ideas. On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Aditya Sengupta wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 14:37, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < > parakara.gh...@gmai

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-26 Thread Aditya Sengupta
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 14:37, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Also, let us NOT mix Social Media with Wikipedia. I don't want people > posing 'Wl u be mai frnd' on my Talk page. > Social Media and Wikipedia, is a big NONO. > I realised this back in 2010 when I was tryi

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-26 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
n, 26 Mar 2012 11:14:17 +0530 > > To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday > March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office) > > > > On Mar 26, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Pradeep Mohandas wrote: > >

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-25 Thread wheredevelsdare
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office) On Mar 26, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Pradeep Mohandas wrote:Hi,The conversation is moving off topic. Perhaps the question to mull over is what to do next? How do we move the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-25 Thread Hisham
On Mar 26, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Pradeep Mohandas wrote: > Hi, > > The conversation is moving off topic. Perhaps the question to mull over is > what to do next? > > How do we move the predominance of media coverage beyond mainstream English print into local language print and other media chann

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-25 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
Hi, The conversation is moving off topic. Perhaps the question to mull over is what to do next? Pradeep Handheld On Mar 26, 2012 9:09 AM, "Srikanth Lakshmanan" wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 06:51, CherianTinu Abraham > wrote: > >> To add up my thoughts here, the passion and joy of contr

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-25 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 06:51, CherianTinu Abraham wrote: > To add up my thoughts here, the passion and joy of contributing to the > movement is subsiding...But personal agendas & caballing are on high tide > here... > Sad, but the truth... :( > > I just hope ( and pray that) good faith , sense &

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-25 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
While I humbly request Pradeep to reconsider his decision of retirement, I personally agree with one of his statements. *"I find that the level of trust and even the assumption of good faith seems to have gone down. Every action is seen through the lens of forwarding or stopping a particular agend

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-25 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Guys, this thread seems to be having a negative impact on our editors and their editing. Pradeep, has written whatever he wrote about trust and good faith here on his user page and put up a Retired banner. Please help. All the best in life, hoping you reconsider your decision. -- Regards, Srikant

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-25 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Agreed. But that Trust is to come from th community. As for Good Faith, it is assumed when the facts are obscure. In this case, the facts are there for all to see. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@li

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-25 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
True. But in the absence of trust, good faith is all you have. It is the first step towards building that trust. When that first step does not exist, the building (trust) is not accessible. Pradeep On 25 March 2012 17:34, Srikanth Ramakrishnan wrote: > Pradeep, levels of trust be good faith are

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-25 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
hi Srikanth, Reply inline. On 25 March 2012 17:31, Srikanth Ramakrishnan wrote: > Pradeep, your age on Wiki and edit count does not matter. I agree with you. > It's the > understanding of OUR policies and principles that matter. I agree with you. I say our as > it is Community centric.

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-25 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Pradeep, levels of trust be good faith are built over a period of time, not overnight. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences v

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-25 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Pradeep, your age on Wiki and edit count does not matter. It's the understanding of OUR policies and principles that matter. I say our as it is Community centric. I agree with Anirudh and would personally term Noopur being hired as a hasty decision. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. ___

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-25 Thread wheredevelsdare
dia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office) A wikipedian messaged me the following just now: " I see you're doing a nice job of defending Miss Raval. You should be a lawyer." My email is not

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-25 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
hi, Thank you for clarifying that for me. Pradeep On 25 March 2012 16:56, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 15:58, Pradeep Mohandas < > pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Are Wikipedians scrutinised at all was my general question, above. >> > > There is something called

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-25 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 15:58, Pradeep Mohandas wrote: > Are Wikipedians scrutinised at all was my general question, above. > There is something called Requests for Comments. There was a mail recently about an RfC on a Hindi Wikipedia admin recently. So it looks like community scrutinizes wikiped

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-25 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
A wikipedian messaged me the following just now: " I see you're doing a nice job of defending Miss Raval. You should be a lawyer." My email is not meant to defend any person nor accuse any person. On an unrelated note, there is a fall in the level of trust around here that I have experienced. The

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-25 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
hi Anirudh, My reply is in-line. On 25 March 2012 14:30, Anirudh Bhati wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 12:54 AM, Pradeep Mohandas > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > A bunch of observations: > > 1. I've never seen such scrutiny of any Wikipedian's contributions. I'm > > disappointed also to see this scr

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-25 Thread Anirudh Bhati
On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 12:54 AM, Pradeep Mohandas wrote: > Hi, > > A bunch of observations: > 1. I've never seen such scrutiny of any Wikipedian's contributions. I'm > disappointed also to see this scrutiny being done by only a section of the > community. I think the Indian community needs to spe

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-24 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
Hi, A bunch of observations: 1. I've never seen such scrutiny of any Wikipedian's contributions. I'm disappointed also to see this scrutiny being done by only a section of the community. I think the Indian community needs to speak up on this - whether for or against such scrutiny even if being don

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-24 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Hisham, the logs show that matters are serious indeed, and that you are taking matters a little too lightly. Whatever said by freakofmimsy, is true and the entire English WP team, including some of us Indians would support it. On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Hisham wrote: > Thanks, much, Theo!

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-24 Thread Hisham
Thanks, much, Theo! Much appreciated. We'll follow the template you've added. It's very useful. hisham On Mar 24, 2012, at 12:47 AM, Theo10011 wrote: > This was all getting a bit complicated. I made those sub-pages earlier so the > content can scale, I was also trying to keep the Indian IRC

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-24 Thread Hisham
Here's the log for March 22nd There were very interesting discussions on how the community building work for Indic languages was conceptualised and how it is evolving. It is especially interesting to see how WikiProjects (like Medical or Translation Enhancement) in Indic communities can pla

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-24 Thread ansuman
ya, anyway thanks Tinu and salman bhai !! On 24 March 2012 11:15, Srikanth Ramakrishnan wrote: > Hey thanks Theo, but there still is no log for 22-03-12. > > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Theo10011 wrote: > >> This was all getting a bit complicated. I made those sub-pages earlier so >> the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-23 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Hey thanks Theo, but there still is no log for 22-03-12. On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Theo10011 wrote: > This was all getting a bit complicated. I made those sub-pages earlier so > the content can scale, I was also trying to keep the Indian IRC hours > separate from the usual WMF IRC office

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-23 Thread Theo10011
This was all getting a bit complicated. I made those sub-pages earlier so the content can scale, I was also trying to keep the Indian IRC hours separate from the usual WMF IRC office hours. I reorganized things a bit. The meetings page is now a template that transcludes to other locations, the mai

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-23 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
Logs of the previous IRC meeting ( March 15, 2012) is available on this page http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program/meetings but it is not linked here http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program#Communication Hisham/ Noopur, may be you want to update there too or just avoid the need to upda

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-23 Thread ansuman
Last log was on 12 October http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program . Please update On 23 March 2012 22:11, Srikanth Ramakrishnan wrote: > Heya, since I was unable to join in yesterday, can I have a link to the > archive/log? > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Hisham wrote: > >> We're sta

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-23 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Heya, since I was unable to join in yesterday, can I have a link to the archive/log? On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Hisham wrote: > We're starting in 15 minutes at 9pm IST. > > Speak soon. > > *hisham* > > On Mar 22, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Hisham wrote: > > Dear All > > Reminder that there's an IRC

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-22 Thread Hisham
We're starting in 15 minutes at 9pm IST. Speak soon. hisham On Mar 22, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Hisham wrote: > Dear All > > Reminder that there's an IRC for the community with India Program on 22nd > March at 9:00 pm IST in #wikimedia-office. This session is an open house > with no specific topic

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-22 Thread Hisham
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Just a question. Is it possible to ever schedule a session in the > afternoon/evening? > > Happy to schedule at whatever time works best to most - but I suspect that the 9pm slot is the one that will probab

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-21 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Just a question. Is it possible to ever schedule a session in the afternoon/evening? On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Hisham wrote: > Dear All > > Reminder that there's an IRC for the community with India Program on 22nd > March at 9:00 pm IST in #wikimedia-office. This session is an open house

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Additional IRC: Thursday March 22nd @ 9pm IST(Open House) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-21 Thread Hisham
Dear All Reminder that there's an IRC for the community with India Program on 22nd March at 9:00 pm IST in #wikimedia-office. This session is an open house with no specific topics to be discussed. (This was scheduled because we ran out of time in the previous IRC. To avoid spamming lists, I w