Re: [Wikitech-l] The future of shared hosting

2015-01-15 Thread Brian Wolff
On Jan 16, 2015 2:49 AM, Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 10:38 PM, Bryan Davis bd...@wikimedia.org wrote: One of the bigger questions I have about the potential shift to requiring services is the fate of shared hosting deployments of MediaWiki. What will

Re: [Wikitech-l] Stance on Social Media

2015-01-09 Thread Brian Wolff
On Jan 9, 2015 3:24 PM, Rob Moen rm...@wikimedia.org wrote: Currently our approach on social media is that Social media websites aren't useful for spreading news and reaching out to potential users and contributors. [1] I challenge this though. Is it really true? Twitter has 254 million

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Unsolicited digital currency donations

2015-01-09 Thread Brian Wolff
Your current balance is 0.11 XPM. Woo, a whole eighth of a cent (USD). Soon you'll be able to buy a little pseudo-brass token, then a private floating island! (Personally i think the tipping for commits is an interesting idea. Although tiping for bugs would seem better as those are concrete

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Security and Maintenance Releases: 1.24.1, 1.23.8, 1.22.15 and 1.19.23

2014-12-18 Thread Brian Wolff
Not entirely. Unlike message copyright, the message used on thumb.php (badtitletext) is not a raw html message. It is meant to be parsed and displayed regularly. And always was. Except it was re-used for thumb.php, and forgotten to be parsed there. I won't go into details, but it's

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Security and Maintenance Releases: 1.24.1, 1.23.8, 1.22.15 and 1.19.23

2014-12-17 Thread Brian Wolff
== Security fixes in 1.24.1, 1.23.8, 1.22.15 and 1.19.23 == * (bug T76686) [SECURITY] thumb.php outputs wikitext message as raw HTML, which could lead to xss. Permission to edit MediaWiki namespace is required to exploit this. Really? That's stretching the definition of a security bug.

Re: [Wikitech-l] A new extension of content tree about Wikipedia

2014-12-09 Thread Brian Wolff
On Dec 9, 2014 1:35 PM, Eallan h.yi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! I am thinking about a new idea about a content tree extension of web/desktop/computer Wiki. When I use mobile phone to access website of Wikipedia, I can fold and unfold a content item of the content tree. That's very

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visibility of action in API for deleted log entries

2014-12-09 Thread Brian Wolff
There's actually a good bit of information that is available from the API that isn't in the web UI (or isn't very visible there). For example, history pages only display timestamps to the minute while the API gives resolution to the second. You can actually get up to the second resolution if

Re: [Wikitech-l] All non-api traffic is now served by HHVM

2014-12-09 Thread Brian Wolff
On 12/3/14, Giuseppe Lavagetto glavage...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi all, it's been quite a journey since we started working on HHVM, and last week (November 25th) HHVM was finally introduced to all users who didn't opt-in to the beta feature. Starting on monday, we started reinstalling all

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia tool framework (php)

2014-12-08 Thread Brian Wolff
On Dec 8, 2014 5:10 PM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: In my view, if a Labs tool is a success, it should be written as a wiki Extension and deployed to relevant wikis. What you're saying essentially means that there is a need to make the wiki truly extensible without much pain. Thats

Re: [Wikitech-l] Community Suggestions Regarding the Project

2014-12-02 Thread Brian Wolff
On 12/2/14, Ankita Shukla ankitashukla...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! I am an OPW Intern for round#09 and will be working on a spelling dictionary project, the proposal of which is available here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Ankitashukla/Proposal. Also, we'd be using this

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator outage due to network issues, 11/29

2014-11-30 Thread Brian Wolff
Thanksgiving is only celebrated at this time in the US. Many of us dont celebrate it. That said downtime happens, and its a non-essential service during non working hours. Well it may be frustrating, its not the end of the world. If anyone is despretely looking for a bug to fix, they can ask on

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator outage due to network issues, 11/29

2014-11-30 Thread Brian Wolff
On Nov 30, 2014 2:07 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, The argument about non-working hours is problematic. When the only thing that counts are the working hours of staff in the USA you may be right. As it is, WIkimedia Germany has staff working at other times and they

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feature request.

2014-11-29 Thread Brian Wolff
​No. The Drafts extension (and any feature that puts hidden content on the servers) was veto'ed years ago by Legal. We need to stop beating this dead horse. J. Err, what? Quick don't tell legal about Special:UploadStash, or the userjs- options api. -- As a quick hack I made a little

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.24.0 released

2014-11-28 Thread Brian Wolff
== Preferences made easier == MediaWiki is known to be extremely flexible and customisable, but few users use its full potential. In 1.24, we aim to make dozens obscure preferences easily discoverable and obvious to use. Umm, what does this mean? Were there code changes to make prefs more

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Security and Maintenance Releases: 1.23.7, 1.22.14 and 1.19.22

2014-11-27 Thread Brian Wolff
On 11/26/14, Markus Glaser gla...@hallowelt.biz wrote: Hello everyone, I would like to announce the release of MediaWiki 1.23.7, 1.22.14 and 1.19.22. This is a regular security and maintenance release. Download links are given at the end of this email. == Security fixes == * (bugs 66776,

Re: [Wikitech-l] changing edit summaries

2014-11-13 Thread Brian Wolff
On Nov 13, 2014 11:43 AM, Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote: Indeed - I am somewhat surprised by James's firm opposition. I tend to agree with James on this one in that if the edit summaries are to be modified then they need a revision history. Typos in edit summary are

Re: [Wikitech-l] changing edit summaries

2014-11-13 Thread Brian Wolff
On Nov 13, 2014 12:45 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: I can see it being useful in two circumstances: 1) As part of the oversight right, in order to edit an edit summary without hiding the entire revision 2) A right of a user to edit their own edit summaries, if the edit summary is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator repository callsigns

2014-11-13 Thread Brian Wolff
On 11/13/14, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: Please help me draft some guidelines for Phabricator repo callsigns. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Callsign_naming_conventions The subpage on naming our existing repos should be especially fun:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feature request.

2014-11-12 Thread Brian Wolff
On Nov 12, 2014 9:44 AM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 8 November 2014 22:01, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Honestly i dont think anyone's even tried to improve the conflict screen. There's probably a lot of low hanging fruit on the usability of edit conflicts

Re: [Wikitech-l] Our CAPTCHA is very unfriendly

2014-11-09 Thread Brian Wolff
On Nov 9, 2014 5:39 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 November 2014 09:27, aude aude.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious, Risker: if you don't mind my asking, what about being required to supply a throwaway email

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feature request.

2014-11-08 Thread Brian Wolff
Honestly i dont think anyone's even tried to improve the conflict screen. There's probably a lot of low hanging fruit on the usability of edit conflicts which could be persued that have nothing to do with the hard, real time editing solutions (as cool as those are). If someone is intrested in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Our CAPTCHA is very unfriendly

2014-11-08 Thread Brian Wolff
For some more background, when we proposed something like that to Chris Steipp he was pretty iffy about it, and he's not wrong. At other sites that don't have a CAPTCHA on signup (like Facebook, Quora, others) they avoid a spam problem in part because they require an email address and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Our CAPTCHA is very unfriendly

2014-11-07 Thread Brian Wolff
On 11/7/14, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on Tim. FancyCaptcha is worse than useless. Nemo ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l Literally an

Re: [Wikitech-l] Including security fixes in MediaWiki

2014-11-02 Thread Brian Wolff
On Nov 1, 2014 8:52 PM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@nichework.com wrote: After some discussion in September, Quim created T480 in Phabricator[1]. Markus polished up the Security Release section of the Release checklist[2] and we agreed to use it as the process for security releases from now on.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Obsolete MediaWiki extensions

2014-10-27 Thread Brian Wolff
If the old maintainer is still around, ask them if they are ok with you taking over. ( just to avoid stepping on toes) If they cant be reached, ask at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Project_ownership explaining why you want to take over maintinance of the extension. Helps if you have pre

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to add a new heading row in file history tables, server-side?

2014-10-26 Thread Brian Wolff
On 10/26/14, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote: There is the ImagePageFileHistoryLine https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/ImagePageFileHistoryLine hook already, but it is for data rows only. Any help appreciated. ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] thank vs. like

2014-10-26 Thread Brian Wolff
On 10/26/14, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote: Il 26/10/2014 20:45, Amir E. Aharoni ha scritto: In the Hebrew Wikipedia there's a discussion about the Thanks feature, which raises the following confusion among other things: Why does the person who is sending the thank-you gets a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Looking for project status updates

2014-10-23 Thread Brian Wolff
Terry wrote a piratey blog post about his departure here: http://terrychay.com/article/fair-winds-and-godspeed-me-hearties.shtml Oh wow. If Terry is still reading this list, I want to take this opportunity to wish him best of luck in whatever he has planned next. --bawolff

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Technical Debt

2014-10-23 Thread Brian Wolff
Some more examples that might be useful in some form: - Global variable or function should never be used (This is probably the only really useful one, because removing global functions/variables would result in better testable code.) - PHP debug statements found In maintenance scripts and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Looking for project status updates

2014-10-23 Thread Brian Wolff
On 10/23/14, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote: Pine, Do you read the monthly engineering reports? They're useful to give you a high-level insight into the engineering efforts going on at the Wikimedia Foundation. For example, the September report is currently being written here:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Requiring PHP = 5.3.3 for MediaWiki core

2014-10-23 Thread Brian Wolff
On 10/24/14, Daniel Friesen dan...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: On 2014-10-23 7:55 PM, MZMcBride wrote: Are there statistics about what versions of PHP exist in the wild among MediaWiki users or users of other large PHP applications (Drupal, WordPress, etc.)?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator for code review (defining the plan)

2014-10-19 Thread Brian Wolff
On Oct 19, 2014 11:52 AM, Rjd0060 rjd0060.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 10:44 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: And, even though it should go without saying, Bugzilla will need to remain online in a read-only format indefinitely post-migration. Why would this be

Re: [Wikitech-l] FOSS OPW Mentor Contact

2014-10-16 Thread Brian Wolff
On Oct 16, 2014 7:02 PM, E.C Okpo eco...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am working on my application for the FOSS Outreach Program, but I am having some trouble getting in contact with the mentor for my chose project - Ori Livneh https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Ori.livneh. I have idled on IRC

Re: [Wikitech-l] Introduction for OPW (Collaborative spelling dictionary building tool)

2014-10-12 Thread Brian Wolff
On Oct 12, 2014 6:54 AM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi Ankita, On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Ankita Shukla ankitashukla...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone! I am Ankita Shukla and am a Computer Science and Engineering student pursuing the junior year of Bachelor of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Php files under the test directory

2014-10-12 Thread Brian Wolff
On Oct 12, 2014 10:13 AM, Divyanshi Kathuria divyanshikathu...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 09:54:03PM +0200, dan entous wrote: this would be the best way to achieve what's needed. in any case, i believe this is the general idea antoine is getting at. Thank You so much for your

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tech- and Tools-related IEG proposals

2014-10-09 Thread Brian Wolff
On 10/10/14, Patrick Earley pear...@wikimedia.org wrote: *(cross-posted to wikimedia-l)* Hello all, For our second round of Individual Engagement Grant applications in 2014, we have a great crop of ideas. Wikimedians have dropped by to offer feedback, support, or expertise to some of the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcement: Bartosz Dziewoński joins Wikimedia as a Features Contractor

2014-10-08 Thread Brian Wolff
On 10/7/14, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello all, It is my great pleasure to announce that Bartosz Dziewoński[0] has joined the Wikimedia Foundation as a contractor in Features Engineering. Bartosz has worked as a volunteer developer for several years, specialising in

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Brian Wolff
On Oct 7, 2014 10:03 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote: Jon, Regarding editing specific templates, I'll echo Brion here. If a template is causing difficulties for your work and you feel like you know enough to fix it, then fix it! That's the wiki way. If you don't have the rights to

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Brian Wolff
On Oct 7, 2014 10:03 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote: Jon, Regarding editing specific templates, I'll echo Brion here. If a template is causing difficulties for your work and you feel like you know enough to fix it, then fix it! That's the wiki way. If you don't have the rights to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-10-02 Thread Brian Wolff
On 10/2/14, Kevin Wayne Williams kwwilli...@kwwilliams.com wrote: Derric Atzrott schreef op 2014/09/30 6:08: Hello everyone, [snip] There must be a way that we can allow users to work from Tor. [snip more] I think the first step is to work harder to block devices, not IP addresses. One

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor exit node rejects port 443 of WM, but it is disabled for editing

2014-10-02 Thread Brian Wolff
On 10/2/14, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: Well you can also edit from port 80 (unless we deployed site-wide SSL without me knowing). Not to mention 198.35.26.96 and 2620:0:863:ed1a::1. --bawolff ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-10-01 Thread Brian Wolff
On Oct 1, 2014 10:55 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: This is something that has to be discussed *on the projects themselves*, not on mailing lists that have (comparatively) very low participation by active editors. Unless people want to trial on mw.org (assuming there is dev buy in, not

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-10-01 Thread Brian Wolff
On Oct 1, 2014 11:40 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 1, 2014 10:55 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: This is something that has to be discussed *on the projects themselves

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-10-01 Thread Brian Wolff
I wish it was a contrived problem. However, this is the conceit by which the edits are attributed for licensing purposes, and it's a non-trivial matter. While I'm fully supportive of finding another way to do this, it is a fundamental issue that would require fairly extensive legal

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-10-01 Thread Brian Wolff
On Oct 1, 2014 3:56 PM, Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote: Another idea for a potential technical solution, this one provided by the user Mirimir on the Tor mailing list. I thought this was actually a pretty good idea. Wikimedia could authenticate users with GnuPG keys. As

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Security and Maintenance Releases: 1.19.20, 1.22.12 and 1.23.5

2014-10-01 Thread Brian Wolff
On 10/1/14, Markus Glaser gla...@hallowelt.biz wrote: Hello everyone, I would like to announce the release of MediaWiki 1.19.20, 1.22.12 and 1.23.5. This is a security release. Download links are given at the end of this email. == Security == * (bug 70672) SECURITY: OutputPage: Remove

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-09-30 Thread Brian Wolff
On 9/30/14, Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote: Alright, this is a long email, and it acts to basically summarise all of the discussions that have already happened on this topic. I'll be posting a copy of it to Mediawiki.org as well so that it will be easier to find out about

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

2014-09-30 Thread Brian Wolff
We need to transition away from a framework where IP addresses are our only means to block problematic editors and towards a framework where we can do so via other less intrusive means. And use what instead? Identities based on proof of possession of a phone numbers? Surety bonds paid in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wrapping signatures with a span for discoverability

2014-09-30 Thread Brian Wolff
On 9/30/14, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote: Some folks in #wikimedia-parsoid are still real excited about the idea though, so a couple more notes should people decide they like it anyway. :) * Consider either a wikitext wrapper like {{#sig:Username}} (my preference) or a markup tag

Re: [Wikitech-l] Outreach Program for Women/Round 9

2014-09-29 Thread Brian Wolff
On 9/29/14, Roxana Necula necula.roxan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, My name is Roxana and I am an engineering student at the Polytechnic University of Bucharest, Romania. I would like to be part of MediaWiki open-source community and participate in the Outreach Program for Women round 9. The

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Security and Maintenance Releases: 1.19.19, 1.22.11 and 1.23.4

2014-09-26 Thread Brian Wolff
On 9/26/14, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 September 2014 23:28, Markus Glaser gla...@hallowelt.biz wrote: Patch to previous version (1.19.18): https://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/mediawiki-1.19.19.patch.gz So I downloaded and applied this. gunzipped it, got this:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Come develop Video, *the* video embedding extension for MediaWiki!

2014-09-23 Thread Brian Wolff
On Sep 23, 2014 8:41 AM, Jack Phoenix j...@countervandalism.net wrote: tl,dr: MediaWiki needs a more human-friendly interface for using videos in wiki pages. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Video significantly improves the video experience in MediaWiki. The extension is not

Re: [Wikitech-l] git review problems

2014-09-23 Thread Brian Wolff
On 9/23/14, Merlijn van Deen valhall...@arctus.nl wrote: On 23 Sep 2014 02:34, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently I spoke too soon - authentication fails with https too. So it really is unusable. Please note that the https password is *not* your normal wikitech password, but

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Release workflow recommendation] A public releases JSON file.

2014-09-18 Thread Brian Wolff
On 9/18/14, Daniel Friesen dan...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: Every once in awhile I've found an idea for a service which would for one reason or another need to know what releases of MediaWiki exist and which ones are obsolete. As far as I know, we don't have any sort of API or machine

Re: [Wikitech-l] I'm leaving the Wikimedia Foundation

2014-09-14 Thread Brian Wolff
On 9/12/14, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: I write this email with regret to let you know that I've decided to leave the Wikimedia Foundation after nearly four years working here, and that my last day will be 30 September. I go into my reasoning and plans in this personal

Re: [Wikitech-l] Best method to flag wiki pages based on rendered HTML

2014-09-14 Thread Brian Wolff
On 9/14/14, Gergo Tisza gti...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi, I would like to flag a large number of wiki pages based on whether their HTML passes a certain test, so that failing pages can be easily listed and counted. The flags should adapt when pages are created or modified. (The specific use

Re: [Wikitech-l] Static functions usable in LocalSettings.php

2014-08-29 Thread Brian Wolff
On 8/29/14, Seb35 seb35wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Sometimes in LocalSettings.php or in extensions settings one want to do simple computations on the namespaces or related to the Git branch in a development environment. Unfortunately this is not (resp. no more) really possible, because

Re: [Wikitech-l] +2 in mediawiki/core for Kevin Israel

2014-08-29 Thread Brian Wolff
On 8/29/14, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: Kevin Israel (User:PleaseStand) now has +2 in mediawiki/core, following a successful nomination by MZMcBride[1]. Congratulations! :) [1]: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Gerrit/Project_ownershipoldid=1072656

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Security and Maintenance Releases: 1.22.10 and 1.23.3

2014-08-28 Thread Brian Wolff
Note: There is no i18n patch as there are no changes in translation. Umm, why not? Surely there has been new translations in translatewiki since the last release. --bawolff ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Using magic functions (e.g. __get) to deprecate class members

2014-08-22 Thread Brian Wolff
On 8/22/14, Stephan Gambke s7ep...@gmail.com wrote: TL;DR: Please review [1] I was asked to discuss the topic on the mailing list, so here goes. Since some time Siebrand is making an effort to improve code quality by making it phpcs-strict compliant [0]. This involves explicitly declaring

Re: [Wikitech-l] Using magic functions (e.g. __get) to deprecate class members

2014-08-22 Thread Brian Wolff
On 8/22/14, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: My opinion on this matter is that if you were using a variable prefixed with “m”, which is clearly one of our conventions for declaring variables private, you are asking for trouble. Just recently when the password hashing API patch was

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension idea

2014-08-22 Thread Brian Wolff
On 8/22/14, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote: How feasible would it be to enable file access/linking to files on a given filesystem without having to upload them? Use case, I have a documentation system in /server/docs which I provide access internally via a file share to all users.

Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP 5.3 EOL and MediaWiki 1.24

2014-08-14 Thread Brian Wolff
On 8/14/14, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everybody, So we had a discussion about this a while ago, but just recently PHP let out the final 5.3 release. [0] Back in the previous thread concerning PHP 5.3, there seemed to be general agreement toward upping our PHP minimum

Re: [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-11 Thread Brian Wolff
On Aug 11, 2014 1:24 PM, Tim Landscheidt t...@tim-landscheidt.de wrote: C. Scott Ananian canan...@wikimedia.org wrote: Almost every WMF developer attended Wikimania this year, and there was quite a lot of fruitful discussion and feedback given. Somewhat surprisingly (to me, it was my

Re: [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-11 Thread Brian Wolff
On Aug 11, 2014 7:58 AM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, at 19:56, Ricordisamoa wrote: Why aren't they implementing a global repository for gadgets, modules, templates which is (IMHO) what the community needs first? THANK YOU! you are, alone, worth a whole

Re: [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-11 Thread Brian Wolff
Now, having observed that not only user Eloquence (aka Erik Moeller) himself engaged in the enforcement of superprotect right on de.wp [1] but soon after a workaround was published a change was deployed [2, 3] as counter measurement to block any possible interference can no longer be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-11 Thread Brian Wolff
, if there is someone interested in fixing it, etc. In this case it is very easy to fix, and there is an entity contributing to mw who is extremely interested in it being fixed. So it got fixed. But it would still probably have been fixed if somebody else complained. --bawolff On 8/12/14, Brian Wolff bawo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-11 Thread Brian Wolff
PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 11, 2014 2:34 PM, James HK jamesin.hongkon...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, [Putting purely the mw dev hat on] I'm putting a hat on from pure observer point of view as neither a member of de.wp nor wmf. Note: that i consider my mw dev hat

Re: [Wikitech-l] News about stolen Internet credentials; reducing Wikimedia reliance on usernames and passwords

2014-08-07 Thread Brian Wolff
On Aug 6, 2014 8:57 AM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: On Wed, 6 Aug 2014, at 21:49, Andre Klapper wrote: On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 22:05 -0700, Pine W wrote: After reading this [1] I am wondering if Wikimedia should start taking steps to reduce reliance on usernames and passwords.

Re: [Wikitech-l] News about stolen Internet credentials; reducing Wikimedia reliance on usernames and passwords

2014-08-07 Thread Brian Wolff
on the theme of one-time passwords that I think could bd explored. Pine On Aug 6, 2014 11:05 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 6, 2014 8:57 AM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: On Wed, 6 Aug 2014, at 21:49, Andre Klapper wrote: On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 22:05 -0700, Pine

Re: [Wikitech-l] News about stolen Internet credentials; reducing Wikimedia reliance on usernames and passwords

2014-08-07 Thread Brian Wolff
I've long wondered about that. Are there really no browser based public key based solutions? Are there any fundamental reasons why that is like that other than that it never got implemented, or never became popular? It seems like the right solution for the password problem. -Martijn I

Re: [Wikitech-l] News about stolen Internet credentials; reducing Wikimedia reliance on usernames and passwords

2014-08-07 Thread Brian Wolff
Oh I have no problem with regular forced password changes, say quarterly or so; I'm used to that in other contexts. But not a one-time password, which will actually increase risk because people will choose keep me logged in to avoid having to get a new password every time they want to log

Re: [Wikitech-l] Anonymous editors IP addresses

2014-07-29 Thread Brian Wolff
but maybe browser and preferences fingerprinting would be more effective anyway, since: tor. Probably not as effective as straight up blocking tor as we do now? :P (Although seriously - I would love if we didn't block tor like we do now. However you can't abuse the site with tor when you can't

Re: [Wikitech-l] Linux distros or Solaris for MediaWiki

2014-07-20 Thread Brian Wolff
Yes that's correct. The Ubuntu package isn't officially supported. This is more a historical thing than anything else, as a couple years back one of the packages (I think it was redhat's) decided that moving the skins directory (This was back before RL, so that included all the css and JS) to a

Re: [Wikitech-l] image metadata not shown by MediaWiki

2014-07-19 Thread Brian Wolff
On Jul 19, 2014 8:23 AM, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote: How does MediaWiki decide when to show the mw_metadata table in file description pages? The imageinfo API lists 3 different metadata types: metadata, commonmetadata and extmetadata. While commons:File:Gaivota -

Re: [Wikitech-l] Naigos and Icinga

2014-07-18 Thread Brian Wolff
I imagine old names die hard. People still say mysql instead of mariadb. Most of the varnish related code in mediawiki is still labelled squid. The stuff related to libav in our video handling code calls it ffmpeg. Etc. --bawolff On Jul 18, 2014 1:01 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: OK,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Anonymous editors IP addresses

2014-07-18 Thread Brian Wolff
On 7/18/14, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote: The CC BY-SA license, used on most WMF projects, requires /attribution/. Attribution for edits made by unregistered/unlogged users is done by the exclusive means of their IP address. By clicking the 'Save' button, they agreed to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who maintains GeoCrumbs? (a changeset waits for review)

2014-07-15 Thread Brian Wolff
On 7/14/14, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi, GeoCrumbs is an extension deployed in Wikimedia servers: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GeoCrumbs It has no official maintainers, what about unofficial ones? Any volunteers? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers/Maintainers I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email for London Hackathon Participants

2014-07-15 Thread Brian Wolff
On 7/9/14, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote: On 07/08/2014 10:30 PM, Rachel Farrand wrote: This year we are expecting a very large turnout at the London Hackathon. Last I heard there were just under 400 people registered. Are those 400 already contributors to the code base, or does it

Re: [Wikitech-l] What's up with upload.wikimedia.org 's crossdomain.xml

2014-07-08 Thread Brian Wolff
On 7/6/14, Faidon Liambotis fai...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 05, 2014 at 09:09:07PM -0700, Brion Vibber wrote: That X-Range header was an experiment me and Faidon tried for the ogv.js media player I've been prototyping (Flash fallback version) . We couldn't get the extra header -- or

Re: [Wikitech-l] What's up with upload.wikimedia.org 's crossdomain.xml

2014-07-06 Thread Brian Wolff
On 7/6/14, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote: That X-Range header was an experiment me and Faidon tried for the ogv.js media player I've been prototyping (Flash fallback version) . We couldn't get the extra header -- or the regular Range header -- to work through the varnish layer

[Wikitech-l] What's up with upload.wikimedia.org 's crossdomain.xml

2014-07-05 Thread Brian Wolff
Hi all. Does anyone here know what the deal is with upload.wikimedia.org/crossdomain.xml ? I couldn't find it anywhere in the puppet repository. I was under the impression that it was so cortado java applet could play video files. However its current value is: ?xml version=1.0? !DOCTYPE

Re: [Wikitech-l] Old page versions and historical templates

2014-06-30 Thread Brian Wolff
On 6/30/14, Adam Wight awi...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi, Fundraising would like the ability to snapshot or retrieve a CentralNotice banner exactly as it was rendered at an earlier time, including the old revisions of templates, which is tricky and AFAICT not supported by MediaWiki-core. Exact

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

2014-06-29 Thread Brian Wolff
On 6/29/14, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi, On Sun, 2014-06-29 at 16:56 +0100, Thomas Mulhall wrote: Hi could we discontinue support for internet explorer 6 and 7 because jquery ui 1.11.0 drops support for internet explorer 6 and 7. Could you elaborate how decisions made by

Re: [Wikitech-l] Including NS_MAIN in $wgNamespacesWithSubpages by default

2014-06-25 Thread Brian Wolff
On 6/25/14, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: MZMcBride wrote: Current default: --- $wgNamespacesWithSubpages = array( NS_TALK = true, NS_USER = true, NS_USER_TALK = true, NS_PROJECT = true, NS_PROJECT_TALK = true, NS_FILE_TALK = true, NS_MEDIAWIKI = true,

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Bug Bounty Program

2014-06-25 Thread Brian Wolff
On 6/26/14, Chris Steipp cste...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Alex Monk kren...@gmail.com wrote: Chris, why don't we leave privacy policy compliance to the users posting on the bug? Wikimedia personal user data shouldn't be going to the security product. There are a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Browser tests for core

2014-06-24 Thread Brian Wolff
On Jun 24, 2014 9:05 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 June 2014 18:56, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: Nice work guys! One slight issue though. The user Selenium_user (as set in environment_variables) was just indefinitely blocked on en.wiki :( Sorry to be a bit

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] First _draft_ goals for WMF engineering/product

2014-06-23 Thread Brian Wolff
If part of the plan for the growth team is to invite anonymous editors to sign up, why not tailor some of those invitations specifically to female anonymous editors? Then you could add a measure, retention of female editors, to that particular growth project. The results should be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ensure that user is logged in

2014-06-19 Thread Brian Wolff
On 6/19/14, Gergo Tisza gti...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com wrote: I'm reasonably sure that the HTTP and HTTPS protocols are smart enough to recognize cut off requests, and that any servers whatsoever are smart enough to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Brian Wolff
On 6/18/14, Kristian Kankainen krist...@eki.ee wrote: Hello! I think, if one is clever enough, some categorization could be automated allready. Searching for pictures based on meta-data is called Concept Based Image Retrieval, searching based on the machine vision recognized content of the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Change tag params

2014-06-18 Thread Brian Wolff
Woo, being bold! One thing I wonder, would it be good to specify some sort of format for ct_params from the get go, like a json value, and document that all callers should use this format? --bawolff On 6/18/14, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: I didn't get any replies, so I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Brian Wolff
While having category intersection is definitely a huge plus now, for it to work really well we need it to be traversing up and down. Does it do that right now? Especially because Commons has a policy against over categorisation (which makes sense), and because we subcategorise so insanely

Re: [Wikitech-l] new terms of use/paid contributions - do they apply to mediawiki

2014-06-16 Thread Brian Wolff
On 6/16/14, Gergo Tisza gti...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: So from what I understand, there's now been an amendment to WMF's terms of use to require disclosure of paid contributions [1]. Its a little unclear how this applies

Re: [Wikitech-l] Second round of the MediaWiki Release Management RFP

2014-06-12 Thread Brian Wolff
So submissions are supposed to be public right? Currently there are 0 public submissions. Is there a backup plan if there are no proposals? --bawolff On Jun 12, 2014 3:48 PM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: Reminder! The deadline for RFP submissions is tomorrow June 13th (no

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

2014-06-10 Thread Brian Wolff
* User talk pages. Do we need multithread tree discussions in our user talk pages? No, we don't. * Regular talk pages. In most cases a section gets 2-5 replies at most. The I think you mean on average. There are outliers here, and they aren't that uncommon. That said i agree that in general

Re: [Wikitech-l] Replacing LiquidThreads for Flow

2014-06-10 Thread Brian Wolff
On Jun 10, 2014 1:10 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: The other mail seems to have gone on a huge tangent about the benefits of Flow / what it can do. This is great but I feel like my original question has gone unanswered so I am resurrecting it with a new e-mail subject. I worry

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

2014-06-06 Thread Brian Wolff
On 6/6/14, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: So I want to know: * What are the blockers for doing this? * Are there any use cases / killer features in LiquidThreads that are not in Flow that need to be

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

2014-06-06 Thread Brian Wolff
On 6/6/14, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Le 06/06/2014 20:17, Brian Wolff a écrit : Personally I have yet to see a discussion system that surpasses (or really even comes close) to standard talk page :::comment here. syntax. Honestly it would make me happy if we just used

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tech questions for outreach presentation

2014-06-01 Thread Brian Wolff
On Jun 1, 2014 2:45 AM, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm developing a presentation that's intended to introduce Wikimedia's universe to other organizations that may have an interest in partnering with us. I estimate the presentation in its full length to be about 1.5 hours,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Process change: New contributors getting editbugs on Bugzilla

2014-05-29 Thread Brian Wolff
Oh yay finally. Ive been wishing we did that for literally years. Thanks for making this happen. --bawolff On May 29, 2014 2:57 PM, Mark Holmquist mtrac...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi, For the nth time, in #mediawiki, I've had someone ask how to be able to mark a bug as resolved, or claim it,

<    1   2   3   4   5   6   7   >