[Wikitech-l] Somebody Explain File Repositories

2013-01-15 Thread Tyler Romeo
rage of uploads on a different device. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.w

Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem to get an article's content in MW 1.20.2

2013-01-15 Thread Tyler Romeo
That is true. Also if it's interwiki. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:12 AM, bawolff wrote: > While it may be true that there are better methods to call

Re: [Wikitech-l] Somebody Explain File Repositories

2013-01-15 Thread Tyler Romeo
I just read it over. The only frustrating thing is trying to figure out which of the approximately 100 functions in the File class need to be overloaded and then which of the 100 additional functions in FileRepo need to be overloaded. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Somebody Explain File Repositories

2013-01-15 Thread Tyler Romeo
Actually, not I'm not even sure whether I should be overriding File or FileRepo, because in reality all the storage happens in FileBackend. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Tue, J

Re: [Wikitech-l] Disambiguation features: Do they belong in core or in an extension?

2013-01-15 Thread Tyler Romeo
I agree with extension. For example, my school's IT department uses a wiki to collect information about common computer problems, and on a wiki about computer problems, none of the issues share the same name. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Com

Re: [Wikitech-l] The ultimate bikeshed: typos in commit messages

2013-01-16 Thread Tyler Romeo
isn't written in accordance with MediaWiki style requirements, that's even more of a reason to -1 than a typo in the commit message. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Wed, Jan 16, 2013

[Wikitech-l] TorBlock Extension

2013-01-18 Thread Tyler Romeo
Hey, Who is the maintainer (or rather, is anybody interested in reviewing patchsets) for the TorBlock extension, because I have a few changes pending? *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] TorBlock Extension

2013-01-18 Thread Tyler Romeo
Hey, It's no problem. Thanks for all the info, though. I didn't even know we had an official maintainer list. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:26

Re: [Wikitech-l] Coding conventions

2013-01-22 Thread Tyler Romeo
ood way to distinguish control structures from functions. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 2:07 PM, bawolff wrote: > On 2013-01-22 3:01 PM, "Brad Jorsch" wr

Re: [Wikitech-l] Coding conventions

2013-01-22 Thread Tyler Romeo
Lmao. Honestly I don't care either way, and any attempt to make up reasons for one over the other is going to be insignificant. We just need to pick one and stick with it. If we can agree on one, I'll personally go through the entire codebase and change it. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens In

Re: [Wikitech-l] On code review

2013-01-22 Thread Tyler Romeo
I agree with the reviewers thing. Because then it gets put on the record as to who supported/had a problem with the commit. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Re: [Wikitech-l] The ultimate bikeshed: typos in commit messages

2013-01-23 Thread Tyler Romeo
at bug report for related information and discussion on the commit. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 3:57 AM, Tim Landscheidt wrote: > (anonymous) wrote: > > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] An actual bikeshed

2013-01-23 Thread Tyler Romeo
Wadler's law will always hold. :P *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Chad wrote: > Hi, > > There's been a lot of bikeshedding topics

Re: [Wikitech-l] The ultimate bikeshed: typos in commit messages

2013-01-23 Thread Tyler Romeo
wrong, but the reason we tag commits with bug numbers is so that, in the future, if one wants to find the commit(s) that fixed a certain bug, they can do a quick grep search on the commit log and find the relevant commits. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in

Re: [Wikitech-l] The ultimate bikeshed: typos in commit messages

2013-01-23 Thread Tyler Romeo
computers are so *much* better at that > (and cheaper). Can't we just use Gerrit's builtin topics for that? *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:

Re: [Wikitech-l] An actual bikeshed

2013-01-24 Thread Tyler Romeo
a quick majority vote on small bikeshed items just so we can get them over with and so people can stop -1'ing my patchsets because of them. This especially applies in cases where there are only two choices, e.g., if( v. if (. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reporting errors from the API

2013-01-25 Thread Tyler Romeo
s any message > parameters > separately. > ** The message key would have to somehow be derived or mapped from the > error code. Herein lies the biggest difficulty. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reporting errors from the API

2013-01-25 Thread Tyler Romeo
Speaking of which, where is the (if there is any) roadmap document or something similar for the next version of the API? *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Brad

Re: [Wikitech-l] Namespace Initialization / Hidden Namespaces

2013-01-29 Thread Tyler Romeo
$wgExtraNamespaces. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Matthew Walker wrote: > Morning All, > > Need some help / a duck [1]. > > Fundraising pushed some pa

Re: [Wikitech-l] Namespace Initialization / Hidden Namespaces

2013-01-29 Thread Tyler Romeo
Woops, ignore what I just said. I misread variable names. That's $wgExtraNamespaceNames. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Tyler Romeo wrote: >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Namespace Initialization / Hidden Namespaces

2013-01-29 Thread Tyler Romeo
paces( true ) to force regeneration? *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Matthew Walker wrote: > > > > Is there a reason you can't just add them

Re: [Wikitech-l] wikiscan / similar for english wikipedia

2013-01-30 Thread Tyler Romeo
It seems he's looking for some sort of user analytics page for enwiki, i.e., one that will show user statistics for a page or something. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Wed, Jan 30,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] RFC: Introducing two new HTTP headers to track mobile pageviews

2013-02-03 Thread Tyler Romeo
oblem with the addition of these headers, but what is the advantage of having two over one. Wouldn't a header like: MobileFrontend: 1/2 a/b/s work just as fine? *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.co

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] RFC: Introducing two new HTTP headers to track mobile pageviews

2013-02-03 Thread Tyler Romeo
Remind me again why a production setup is logging every header of every request? Also, if you are logging every header, then the amount of data added by a single extra header would be insignificant compared to the rest of the request. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Composer use in MediaWiki (II)

2013-02-05 Thread Tyler Romeo
You all may be interested to know that https://github.com/composer/installers actually has a MediaWiki extension composer installer. I'm working on a more robust version, but for now it looks like it works. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Composer use in MediaWiki (II)

2013-02-05 Thread Tyler Romeo
Mhm, right now I have include files, mandatory configuration variables (it prompts the user if in interactive mode), and schema updates (update.php). Is there anything else anybody can think of that an extension installer could do conveniently? *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Gerrit] API PageSet allows generator for non-query modules - change (mediawiki/core[master])

2013-02-05 Thread Tyler Romeo
ssary to sacrifice the logical readability of the code just because a developer might make a typo and not realize it even though the same variable is on the line above. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Gerrit] API PageSet allows generator for non-query modules - change (mediawiki/core[master])

2013-02-06 Thread Tyler Romeo
es empty() in a place where it's obviously OK to use it (for example, when you're checking if a function argument is empty one line below the beginning of the function). *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tyle

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Gerrit] API PageSet allows generator for non-query modules - change (mediawiki/core[master])

2013-02-06 Thread Tyler Romeo
I highly doubt there's a chance of running into a typo or mistake. > If I wanted to check an array is empty I would probably: > > count( $array ) === 0 > > cheers, count() requires determining the size of the array, which is significantly slower than any of the solutions. *--*

Re: [Wikitech-l] Github Extensions

2013-02-06 Thread Tyler Romeo
Yes, but we don't have to keep all three extension pages. As the MediaWiki community, don't we want to make things simpler for sysadmins? We can't force them to work together, but I don't see how keeping all three extensions on MW.org is useful. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Ins

Re: [Wikitech-l] Github Extensions

2013-02-06 Thread Tyler Romeo
It's one thing to have redundant extensions, it's another to have three different extensions (two of which have names differing by one letter) that are exactly the same thing, as in line-for-line they do the same exact thing. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Github Extensions

2013-02-07 Thread Tyler Romeo
I should also point out that the likelihood of any links pointing to either of the other two extensions is very low, considering neither have README files (both had their code on the page) and only the GitHub extension even had the extension page URL in the extension description. *--* *Tyler

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-07 Thread Tyler Romeo
I don't mind these discussions, but can we please stop changing the subject, because it's changed three times and it makes it difficult to keep track of. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...

Re: [Wikitech-l] Technical design review of extension

2013-02-08 Thread Tyler Romeo
I suppose that means there should be a review to see if the extension design is OK to be deployed live. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Paul Selitskas wrote

Re: [Wikitech-l] Technical design review of extension

2013-02-08 Thread Tyler Romeo
I agree, I'm just saying I think the guide is implying that the extension should be reviewed for security and whatnot before being deployed. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Fri,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Technical design review of extension

2013-02-09 Thread Tyler Romeo
ybe I'll submit a patch or two. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Brian Wolff wrote: > Yes, extensions need to be reviewed (esp. In terms of security and > pe

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit 2.6 - coming to a server near you

2013-02-12 Thread Tyler Romeo
Some other new features I've noticed that haven't been listed: * Showing who has the ability to vote in each category (easily identify project owners). * Switch patchsets while in diff view. * Changes show if they need to be rebased. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revoking +2 (Re: who can merge into core/master?)

2013-02-14 Thread Tyler Romeo
I know this is pretty obvious, but self-merging pretty much any change should be grounds for removal (or at the very least no second chance). *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Thu, Feb 14

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revoking +2 (Re: who can merge into core/master?)

2013-02-14 Thread Tyler Romeo
Mhm, yep. And yeah, we'd definitely want to be a little lenient. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Krinkle wrote: > On Feb 15, 2013, at 1:11 AM, Tyl

Re: [Wikitech-l] New IEG Proposal: Revision History Visualizer and Improvement Suggester using Geo-Spatial Technologies

2013-02-16 Thread Tyler Romeo
ght not be difficult, *especially* on articles that are edited by only a select group of users, e.g., most Wikipedia articles. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Matthe

Re: [Wikitech-l] New IEG Proposal: Revision History Visualizer and Improvement Suggester using Geo-Spatial Technologies

2013-02-16 Thread Tyler Romeo
Eh, English. But that's what I meant, it would be very easy. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Risker wrote: > On 16 February 2013 20:06, Tyler Rome

Re: [Wikitech-l] New IEG Proposal: Revision History Visualizer and Improvement Suggester using Geo-Spatial Technologies

2013-02-17 Thread Tyler Romeo
ike I just mentioned was implemented, I don't think there would be any problems with the data, although the threshold value would have to be chosen very carefully, and I'm not sure the WMF would want to take such a risk (although I can't speak for the WMF since I'm just a volunteer

Re: [Wikitech-l] Using wiki pages as databases

2013-02-19 Thread Tyler Romeo
but non-leaf pages would build the array from all child sub-pages and display it to the user. Would this solve the problem? Because if so, I've put some thought into it and would be willing to maybe draft an extension giving such a capability. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Using wiki pages as databases

2013-02-19 Thread Tyler Romeo
the backend will simply update the sub-pages as appropriate. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Platonides wrote: > On 19/02/13 13:56, Tyler Romeo wrote: &

Re: [Wikitech-l] Do we need to change the MW release process to better involve the non-WMF community?

2013-02-21 Thread Tyler Romeo
deal with PHP at all, i.e., have a configuration file in YAML or something. Even PHP frameworks like Symfony have abstracted out the PHP, and that's a case where you're actually developing *in* PHP. :P *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Installing Mediawiki SourceCode

2013-02-21 Thread Tyler Romeo
I have an alternative question. Why is there "-b" in the options? Git should automatically create local branches when checking out a remote branch, i.e., doing git checkout REL1_20 should automatically create a branch with that name based on origin/REL1_20. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens In

[Wikitech-l] Subclassing HTMLForm Question

2013-02-21 Thread Tyler Romeo
set to div/raw output. Is this OK, i.e., is the table/div/raw only applicable to the form itself, or should the subclass make sure to follow that format as well? Unfortunately, there is no precedent for this because every other field type only puts out an input tag. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens In

Re: [Wikitech-l] Installing Mediawiki SourceCode

2013-02-21 Thread Tyler Romeo
Aha, OK thanks. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Ori Livneh wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 21, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Tyler Romeo wrote: >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bringing OpenID as a provider to Wikimedia projects

2013-02-22 Thread Tyler Romeo
er side of it should definitely be a priority. Think of sites now like StackOverflow, where creating an account is as simple as pressing a few Accept buttons. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com O

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bringing OpenID as a provider to Wikimedia projects

2013-02-22 Thread Tyler Romeo
fficult step, and we're not ready to take it right now. OpenID > as a provider solves some long-standing problems and is a step in the right > direction, let's focus on one thing at a time. How exactly is it so difficult? You just set the configuration option for the extensio

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bringing OpenID as a provider to Wikimedia projects

2013-02-22 Thread Tyler Romeo
rmanent downtime. E:OpenID does this as well, not to mention you can always set a password and login traditionally. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Brian Wo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bug 1542 - Log spam blacklist hits

2013-02-25 Thread Tyler Romeo
aWiki in order to stop editing, e-mailing, etc. if the request matches a parsed blacklist it has. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:17 PM, anubhav agarwal wrote: >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Better non-MySQL db support

2013-02-25 Thread Tyler Romeo
Where is the abstract-schema branch now? The only thing I remember about that was a brief mailing list discussion (I think started by Daniel Friesnen) about making such a format. What exactly were the hold-ups with updates? *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major

Re: [Wikitech-l] Better non-MySQL db support

2013-02-25 Thread Tyler Romeo
Oh. Sorry must have missed that. I'll take a look and see if there's anything interesting. On Feb 25, 2013 5:05 PM, "Chad" wrote: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Tyler Romeo wrote: > > Where is the abstract-schema branch now? The only thing I remember about >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Purpose of #wikimedia-dev

2013-02-27 Thread Tyler Romeo
's much more IRC can do to help him. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Brian Wolff wrote: > On 2013-02-27 8:30 AM, "Petr Bena" wrote: > &

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Merging wikitech and labsconsole on Thursday at 1 PM PDT

2013-02-27 Thread Tyler Romeo
Is using rewrite a good idea, or would it be better to just redirect so that there's only one actual URI? (I don't have an answer to that, just asking.) *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.co

Re: [Wikitech-l] Purpose of #wikimedia-dev

2013-02-27 Thread Tyler Romeo
tion answered now or when the delayed email style messaging isn't enough. For anything else that doesn't fit in that category, stick to the mailing list. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Purpose of #wikimedia-dev

2013-02-27 Thread Tyler Romeo
-posts automatically and I always forget to remove it. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Purpose of #wikimedia-dev

2013-02-27 Thread Tyler Romeo
technically blocked at my job so I can't go on. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https:/

Re: [Wikitech-l] Purpose of #wikimedia-dev

2013-02-28 Thread Tyler Romeo
nd a way to get to IRC, the web interface being the simplest of solutions. ;) *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech

[Wikitech-l] HTTPS Login

2013-02-28 Thread Tyler Romeo
7;d be happy to help resolve it as soon as possible. Patch: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/21322 *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing

Re: [Wikitech-l] switching to something better than irc.wikimedia.org

2013-03-01 Thread Tyler Romeo
's an existing piece of software that does this or whether this would require implementing a daemon in the form of a maintenance script that handle the job. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.co

Re: [Wikitech-l] switching to something better than irc.wikimedia.org

2013-03-01 Thread Tyler Romeo
cky to see it implemented by MW 1.25 ;) Nonetheless, it sounds like a fun project, and if some developers would be interested in putting together a generic C++ push notification server, I'd be happy to help out. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Compute

Re: [Wikitech-l] switching to something better than irc.wikimedia.org

2013-03-01 Thread Tyler Romeo
m to fit the use case pretty well / closely. Hmm, I've always only thought of RabbitMQ as a messaging service between linked applications, but I guess it could be used as a type of push notification service as well. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Te

Re: [Wikitech-l] switching to something better than irc.wikimedia.org

2013-03-01 Thread Tyler Romeo
t; administrative ones. I think we'd want a thin proxy layer in front anyways, > to track and if necessary, selectively limit access. It could be very > simple though. > Mhm, in that case this might be a viable solution. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Subclassing HTMLForm Question

2013-03-02 Thread Tyler Romeo
I'm fine either way with this change. I was just hesitant because I wasn't sure whether HTMLForm was designed in a matter where front-end developers were expecting all divs. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com

[Wikitech-l] MediaHandler Stream Headers

2013-03-03 Thread Tyler Romeo
rray()". So, um, was this just never implemented, or am I missing something. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaHandler Stream Headers

2013-03-03 Thread Tyler Romeo
nd, it only has a path. Maybe should I try and create a File object from the path? *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reminder about the best way to link to bugs in commits

2013-03-03 Thread Tyler Romeo
ommit message anyway. But that's just my opinion. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org ht

[Wikitech-l] PHP Analyzer (now open-source!)

2013-03-04 Thread Tyler Romeo
right now to see what it says, but does anybody else know about this product? Maybe it'd be useful to try and put it into our build system along with php-cs? Thoughts... *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...

Re: [Wikitech-l] Subclassing HTMLForm Question

2013-03-04 Thread Tyler Romeo
a caller wants div output or raw output, is there any reason this would be unexpected. I'm asking mainly because I really have no idea under what circumstances or for what reasons a calling function would want div/raw format. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 201

Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP Analyzer (now open-source!)

2013-03-04 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Antoine Musso wrote: > Do you mind sharing the package/source code link? https://github.com/scrutinizer-ci/php-analyzer *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaHandler Stream Headers

2013-03-04 Thread Tyler Romeo
Oh wow, that saves a lot of work. If that doesn't make it into core (which it really shouldn't), that patch would be gladly welcome in Extension:AWS. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.co

Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP Analyzer (now open-source!)

2013-03-04 Thread Tyler Romeo
maintaining them all. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript

2013-03-05 Thread Tyler Romeo
good idea to specifically ignore legal requirements for a third-party software. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@

Re: [Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript

2013-03-05 Thread Tyler Romeo
conditions added under section 7. This requirement modifies the requirement in section 4 to “keep intact all notices”. Later in the license it specifies that also binary forms of the work that are conveyed must also comply with these restrictions. -- Tyler Romeo Stevens Institute of Technology,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript

2013-03-05 Thread Tyler Romeo
always free. > True, but if it's legally required it's not like we have an option. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript

2013-03-05 Thread Tyler Romeo
x27;t include the license text in on-the-wire minified copies. But WMF getting a license doesn't help everybody else who uses MW. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com _

Re: [Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript

2013-03-05 Thread Tyler Romeo
e! I'm not sure that's true at all. The MIT license is pretty much a proper subset of CC-BY-SA, i.e., it has less restrictions and the restrictions it has are in CC-BY-SA anyway. People are lying to you. ;) *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Maj

Re: [Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript

2013-03-06 Thread Tyler Romeo
se some people don't care enough about how laws exist in this world and we have to operate under them doesn't mean everybody else should be screwed over. So if we could actually get back on topic rather than bitching and complaining about doing things some of us don't necessarily enjoy.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript

2013-03-06 Thread Tyler Romeo
Well then maybe we could just wait for a response from the counsel in this thread rather than interpreting licenses and then complaining about it... *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Editing wikipedia using google, openID or facebook

2013-03-07 Thread Tyler Romeo
t could be ready for deployment in the near future (if not right now). *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists

Re: [Wikitech-l] Editing wikipedia using google, openID or facebook

2013-03-07 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Antoine Musso wrote: > We still have to figure out which account will be used, the URL, whether > we want a dedicated wiki etc... > Those discussions are unrelated to using OpenID as a client, though. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology,

[Wikitech-l] Redis with SSDs

2013-03-07 Thread Tyler Romeo
Interesting article I found about Redis and its poor performance with SSDs as a swap medium. For whoever might be interested. http://antirez.com/news/52 *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

[Wikitech-l] Some Sort of Notice for Breaking Changes

2013-03-08 Thread Tyler Romeo
Is there any way that extension developers can get some sort of notice for breaking changes, e.g., https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50138? Luckily my extension's JobQueue implementation hasn't been merged yet, but if it had I would have no idea that it had been broken by the core. *--* *T

Re: [Wikitech-l] JobQueue changes (Re: Some Sort of Notice for Breaking Changes)

2013-03-08 Thread Tyler Romeo
n would have to have a default implementation in the main JobQueue class. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikite

Re: [Wikitech-l] JobQueue changes (Re: Some Sort of Notice for Breaking Changes)

2013-03-08 Thread Tyler Romeo
Also, after doing a git-blame, I found https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51886, which was also merged today. I could search through the core for other changes like this but it'd require an immense amount of time. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Some Sort of Notice for Breaking Changes

2013-03-08 Thread Tyler Romeo
True, but schema changes are not as bad because they won't cause fatal errors in PHP. At the very least if a schema change occurs your wiki will still be operational. --Tyler Romeo On Mar 8, 2013 4:26 PM, "Federico Leva (Nemo)" wrote: > Partly related: to be fair, Aaron as

Re: [Wikitech-l] Github/Gerrit mirroring

2013-03-09 Thread Tyler Romeo
h Git itself. If you can't handle the basics of Gerrit, it's because you don't know how to use Git. And at that point I don't see how GitHub is going to make things that much easier anyway. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Compute

Re: [Wikitech-l] Github/Gerrit mirroring

2013-03-10 Thread Tyler Romeo
ot;). I am not entirely > sure why it was discarded so promptly in favor of the admittedly powerful, > but clearly problematic/controversial Gerrit. Are there strong reasons do > dismiss it that weren't stated in that page? What's the difference between GitHub's and GitLab's

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nightly shallow clones of mediawiki/core

2013-03-10 Thread Tyler Romeo
The git-archive command is supposed to fulfill this functionality, but it seems it does not work anonymously, i.e., over HTTPS. I think it only works with ssh:// and with git://. Otherwise, GitHub's snapshots seem to be the only solution. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Live recent changes feed

2013-03-10 Thread Tyler Romeo
xtra libraries will make it harder > than it actually is - despite it could be more flexible and faster. > I agree with the discussion, but I think this is a good starting point. You can expect some patches from me soon. ;) *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015

Re: [Wikitech-l] Live recent changes feed

2013-03-10 Thread Tyler Romeo
r. This allows event-driven clients without having a socket constantly open. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists

Re: [Wikitech-l] Live recent changes feed

2013-03-10 Thread Tyler Romeo
very, such as when using Amazon's notification service. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.o

Re: [Wikitech-l] Live recent changes feed

2013-03-10 Thread Tyler Romeo
inable > implemented. Especially not initially but even in general. Agreed, but this is a pretty basic one. In fact, if you use HTTP keep alive, it's almost identical to the TCP push method anyway, just that you can use a web server rather than rolling your own socket client. *--* *Tyle

Re: [Wikitech-l] Live recent changes feed

2013-03-11 Thread Tyler Romeo
Honestly, the solution could be as simple as requiring that the HTTP response have a certain header or something. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Live recent changes feed

2013-03-11 Thread Tyler Romeo
t the client, such as which channels to subscribe to. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimed

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nightly shallow clones of mediawiki/core

2013-03-11 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: > You can get a nightly snapshot of mediawiki from: > https://toolserver.org/~krinkle/mwSnapshots/#!/mediawiki-core/master > > > > There is not .git, but maybe it could be added. > This is spectacular. Simple a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Detect running from maintenance script in a parser function extension

2013-03-12 Thread Tyler Romeo
> $wgCommandLineMode should be able to tell you, although I think checking if the RUN_MAINTENANCE_IF_MAIN constant is set is probably a better method. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkid

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pronunciation recording tool wanted

2013-03-12 Thread Tyler Romeo
on using a Java applet. :P *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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