[Wikitech-l] Re: ORES To Lift Wing Migration

בתאריך יום ו׳, 4 באוג׳ 2023, 13:53, מאת Brian Wolff ‏: > > Our understanding is that renaming extensions in MediaWiki is a long > and complicated process, so we'll likely not be able to rename it in the > foreseeable future. > > Why? > > Renaming is usually a bad thing because it often confuses

[Wikitech-l] Re: ORES To Lift Wing Migration

Great, thank you! בתאריך יום ו׳, 4 באוג׳ 2023, 11:49, מאת Luca Toscano ‏< ltosc...@wikimedia.org>: > Hi Amir! > > Answering inline: > > On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 10:11 PM Amir E. Aharoni < > amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > >> >> The email says tha

[Wikitech-l] Re: ORES To Lift Wing Migration

It's possible that I'm very out of touch, but I'll ask anyway :) As far as I know, the main place where editors of Wikimedia's wiki sites actually see ORES in action is the filtering and highlighting functionality on Recent Changes. This functionality is enabled in a limited number of wikis, but

[Wikitech-l] Re: Service Decommission Notice: Mobile Content Service - July 2023

update the list if I'm mistaken. > > Thank you! > -Adam > > On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 9:39 AM Amir E. Aharoni < > amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > >> Thanks for the notification! >> >> Is this related to the messages that are translated as part of t

[Wikitech-l] Re: Service Decommission Notice: Mobile Content Service - July 2023

Thanks for the notification! Is this related to the messages that are translated as part of the "Page Content Service" project? Some of them are displayed in very prominent places. Here's a list of translatable messages:

[Wikitech-l] Re: No train the week of 2022-08-08 (next week)

Actually, I'm very silly, it's the same week 臘‍♂️ בתאריך יום ו׳, 5 באוג׳ 2022, 20:09, מאת Amir E. Aharoni ‏< amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il>: > Thanks for the notification. > > Is there a train during the week of Wikimania? > > בתאריך יום ו׳, 5 באוג׳ 2022, 20:01, מאת Tyler

[Wikitech-l] Re: No train the week of 2022-08-08 (next week)

Thanks for the notification. Is there a train during the week of Wikimania? בתאריך יום ו׳, 5 באוג׳ 2022, 20:01, מאת Tyler Cipriani ‏< tcipri...@wikimedia.org>: > Hi All > > There will be no train next week (Mon, 08 Aug–Fri, 12 Aug)—there is a > global holiday[0] on Tuesday (the beginning of our

[Wikitech-l] namespace names vs interlanguage links

Hi, I've recently discovered that namespace names may have an ambiguity with interlanguage links: If a namespace name is the same as a language code, using it in wikitext poses all kinds of challenges. Actual example: In the Tyap language (code kcg), the Wikipedia in which was created a few days

[Wikitech-l] Re: Developer Portal status update

Hi! Will the content of this portal be translatable? How will the translation process work? There are a lot of links in the email. It's possible that the answer to my question is somewhere in these links. I tried clicking some of them and couldn't find it. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר

[Wikitech-l] Re: Why does the train start on Tuesday?

> Regarding Catalan and Hebrew Wikipedia, the other Amir said it well, I don't think I have much to add beside the fact that I have personally seen them finding major issues before they hit all Wikipedia languages many times, more than I can count. > > Apologies if I didn't make myself clear, but

[Wikitech-l] Re: Why does the train start on Tuesday?

‫בתאריך יום ג׳, 22 ביוני 2021 ב-23:04 מאת ‪Jon Robson‬‏ <‪ jrob...@wikimedia.org‬‏>:‬ > Hi all > > A few questions to provoke discussion/share knowledge better: > * Why does the train run Tue,Wed, Thur rather than Mon,Tue,Wed > * Why do we only have 2 group 1 Wikipedia's (Catalan and Hebrew) >

[Wikitech-l] the parts of a template

Hallo. What are the parts of a template? When templates started in 2003 or 04, they were just simple pages, whose content you could add ("transclude") to multiple other pages. Over time they acquired more features: noinclude, includeonly, onlyinclude, parser functions, documentation pages,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Reference Previews will become a default feature on a first group of wikis soon

בתאריך יום ד׳, 17 במרץ 2021, 11:16, מאת Johanna Strodt ‏< johanna.str...@wikimedia.de>: > Hello Amir, thanks for your questions. Having discussed this back and > forth in the team, our original plan was to deploy to a few wikis first to > find out how many users actually don't want a shared

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Reference Previews will become a default feature on a first group of wikis soon

get both enabled >> or both disabled after the deployment of the combined feature?* >> The Page Previews user preferences will be respected. In a scenario where >> a user has Page Previews disabled, Reference Previews will also be disabled. >> >> Best, >> Johanna >>

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Reference Previews will become a default feature on a first group of wikis soon

‫בתאריך יום ד׳, 3 במרץ 2021 ב-11:44 מאת ‪Johanna Strodt‬‏ <‪ johanna.str...@wikimedia.de‬‏>:‬ > Reference Previews will be combined with Page Previews[2], a feature > showing previews for linked articles. Both perform essentially the same > function: previewing content before deciding to dig

[Wikitech-l] Translatable modules

Hi, *Crossposting to Wikimedia-L, Wikitech-L, MediaWiki-L, and Wikitech-Ambassadors. You can reply to the mailing list, but the ideal place for further discussion is the talk pages of the wiki pages to which I link below.* There's a new proposal to localize Lua modules in a more modern, safe,

Re: [Wikitech-l] First prototypes of possible technical improvements of templates

Thanks! Do you have a link for the project page? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ ‫בתאריך יום ה׳, 26 במרץ 2020 ב-18:59 מאת ‪Michael Schönitzer‬‏ <‪

Re: [Wikitech-l] A monthly purge

‫בתאריך יום ה׳, 20 בפבר׳ 2020 ב-9:26 מאת ‪bawolff‬‏ <‪bawolff...@gmail.com ‬‏>:‬ > Pretty sure the answer is no (Although i don't know for a fact). > > However, parser cache only lasts for 30 days. So pages will get parsed at > least once every 30 days (if viewed). However that's separate from

Re: [Wikitech-l] Community Tech: New Format for 2020 Wishlist Survey

problematic, especially for larger projects. > > -- > Brian > > On Sunday, October 13, 2019, Amir E. Aharoni > > wrote: > > > I don't know if restricting the wishlist only for other projects is so > > terrible. Non-Wikipedia projects have complained for years th

Re: [Wikitech-l] Community Tech: New Format for 2020 Wishlist Survey

I don't know if restricting the wishlist only for other projects is so terrible. Non-Wikipedia projects have complained for years that they are not getting enough attention, so perhaps giving them extra love at the expense of Wikipedia makes sense. I would look at a wider problem, though. Over

[Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Language showcase June 2019

Hello, This is an announcement about a new installment of the Language Showcase, a series of presentations about various aspects of language diversity and its connection to Wikimedia Projects. This new installment will deal with Machine Translation and how we are seeing their use in Wikimedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] Kedu ihe na-eme gị obi ụtọ n'izu a? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 26 May 2019)

בתאריך יום ה׳, 30 במאי 2019, 01:01, מאת Pine W ‏: > I was happy to read this announcement > > by > Amir regarding improvements for typing in African languages on Wikimedia > projects. (I hope that the translation of the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pending (false positive?) translations on Gerrit to Toolforge tools

k @Amir: > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/dashboard/l10n-...@translatewiki.net, it > should work or you can just check the dashboard of l10n-bot on Gerrit. > Thanks > > *--* > *https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:X-Savitar>>* > > > On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 12:37 PM A

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pending (false positive?) translations on Gerrit to Toolforge tools

‫בתאריך יום א׳, 28 באפר׳ 2019 ב-12:16 מאת ‪Derick Alangi‬‏ <‪ alangider...@gmail.com‬‏>:‬ > Hi, > > Looking at > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/dashboard/l10n-...@translatewiki.net, there > are pending translations to Toolforge tools which are failing due to false > positives? The link doesn't

Re: [Wikitech-l] Abusefilter and Content Translator

‫בתאריך יום א׳, 28 באפר׳ 2019 ב-13:58 מאת ‪Vi to‬‏ <‪vituzzu.w...@gmail.com ‬‏>:‬ > If usage of Google translate at any stage is detected by such a raw > technology as abusefilter is, then there's something wrong with the > subsequent editing. > I don't think that this is happening. It is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Abusefilter and Content Translator

As an immediate remedy, you can try clicking on the gear icon near the Publish button and selecting to publish to a draft page. Most likely it won't be affected by the AbuseFilter. After the initial publishing you'll be able to move the page to the article space. (Of course, it may be a good idea

Re: [Wikitech-l] UserMerge extension on Wikimedia sites

Yes, it's installed, but it doesn't seem to be actually used. The English Wikivoyage has a bunch of log entries of its usage, the last in 2015. Other Wikimedia sites have very few entries, or none at all. My guess, and please do correct me if I'm wrong, is that it was used on Wikitravel or

[Wikitech-l] UserMerge extension on Wikimedia sites

Hi, Is the UserMerge extension actually used on Wikimedia sites? As far as I can see, it is only installed on Wikivoyage, and the last log entries of its usage are from 2015. However, it's possible that I'm missing something. The reason I'm asking is that I'd love to know how to configure it

Re: [Wikitech-l] If users can't edit an article, don't encourage them to edit its Wikidata item

Including information from Wikidata in a page is not so different from transcluding a template. So in theory, protecting a page from vandalism through Wikidata should be similar to cascading protection, which exists in core and auto-protects images and transcluded templates on a page. In fact,

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

... And, more importantly, its form doesn't say "separate the trail from the link". Just like , it only *happened* to do it (I tried on Wikipedia, and it doesn't do it now). The point I'm trying to make in this thread is that happens to do certain things other than showing wiki syntax without

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

‫בתאריך יום ו׳, 5 באוק׳ 2018 ב-16:59 מאת ‪Dan Garry‬‏ <‪dga...@wikimedia.org ‬‏>:‬ > > On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 23:29, John Erling Blad wrote: > > > Usually it comes from user errors while using VE. This kind of errors are > > quite common, and I asked (several years ago) whether it could be fixed

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

I once wrote some very, very silly code that kind of works for Hebrew, and could possibly be adapted to other languages: https://github.com/amire80/znavot Pull requests welcome :) בתאריך יום ה׳, 4 באוק׳ 2018, 19:59, מאת Thiemo Kreuz ‏< thiemo.kr...@wikimedia.de>: > Hey! > > The syntax

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

gt; > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 11:17 AM Bináris wrote: > > > Here is a list of removals. :-) > > > > > https://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speci%C3%A1lis:Szerkeszt%C5%91_k%C3%B6zrem%C5%B1k%C3%B6d%C3%A9sei/BinBot=20180912205000=BinBot=28 > > > > > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

Thanks. Can you please give some particular examples? בתאריך יום ה׳, 4 באוק׳ 2018, 17:41, מאת Bináris ‏: > Amir E. Aharoni ezt írta (időpont: 2018. > okt. 4., Cs, 16:18): > > > > > This sentence shows the template used at the end.{{Citation > > needed|reason=Reliable

[Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

Hi, In MediaWiki, the tag was created for writing characters without having them interpreted as wiki syntax. An obvious and direct use case for this is writing help pages about editing wiki pages in wiki syntax, for example: Writing '''words between three apostrophes''' will show them in bold

[Wikitech-l] problematic use of "Declined" in Phabricator

Hi, I sometimes see WMF developers and product managers marking tasks as "Declined" with comments such as these: * "No resources for it in (team name)" * "We won't have the resources to work on this anytime soon." * "I do not plan to work on this any time soon." Can we perhaps agree that the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making two factor auth less annoying

2018-08-13 11:19 GMT+03:00 Daniel Kinzler : > Am 13.08.2018 um 07:34 schrieb Gergo Tisza: > > Two-factor authentication does not affect how the session works. If you > > check "Remember me", the login will last for 180 days, whether you use > > two-factor authentication or not. > > Yea, works

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

2018-08-09 12:10 GMT+03:00 Fæ : > > > No Amir, you cannot build a logical post-hoc rationale for this block > for the debatably single inappropriate use of WTF, if it hangs on > cherry picking an essay from the English Wikipedia as "positive > evidence", while choosing to ignore "negative

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

2018-08-08 21:42 GMT+03:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) : > The message which was sanctioned was even of an especially thoughtful > kind, in my opinion, because it didn't attempt to submerge the other users > with walls of text, politically correct tirades or otherwise charged > statements. It was merely

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator spam - account approval requirement enabled

Thanks to all the people who are working (on a weekend!) to fix this. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2018-07-01 5:53 GMT+02:00 Greg Grossmeier : > Hello, > > Unfortunately we are

Re: [Wikitech-l] [nominations needed] Wikimedia Technical Conference

The FAQ answers some of these questions, though not all: https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Technical_Conference/2018/FAQ בתאריך יום ו׳, 1 ביוני 2018, 19:58, מאת Brian Wolff ‏: > The survey cannot be opened (gives a permission error. Presumably its only > working if you are logged in to a

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC 2018 Introduction: Hagar Shilo

Welcome / ברוכה הבאה! בתאריך יום ה׳, 3 במאי 2018, 19:27, מאת Hagar Shilo ‏< hagarshi...@mail.tau.ac.il>: > Hi All, > > My name is Hagar Shilo. I'm a web developer and a student at Tel Aviv > University, Israel. > > This summer I will be working on a user search menu and user filters for >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Thoughts for handy features

2017-11-17 8:15 GMT+02:00 John Elliot V : > 2. For duplicated content it would be handy if you could define a bunch > of "variables" down the bottom of a page and then reference them from > elsewhere. I am aware of templates, but those are overkill and difficult > to maintain per my

Re: [Wikitech-l] HHVM vs. Zend divergence

בתאריך 19 בספט׳ 2017 22:52,‏ "Kevin Smith" כתב: On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 11:41 AM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > Think of this like > the traditional [[devil's advocate]] process for canonizing a saint. I'm > just challenging us to take a hard look at

Re: [Wikitech-l] Timeless skin now available on mw.org

THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYONE INVOLVED. Will test and report hopefully useful bugs. THAT'S what Wikimania is good for! בתאריך 11 באוג׳ 2017 18:27,‏ "Isarra Yos" כתב: > The Timeless skin has been deployed to test, test2, and mw.org. Anyone > interested, please go ahead an

Re: [Wikitech-l] Human-readable section IDs

Wonderful news. Nice to see the follow up from the Dev Summit discussion about it, and to see an old and important problem being addressed thoroughly, and with consideration for backwards compatibility. Thank you! בתאריך 8 ביולי 2017 03:31,‏ "Max Semenik" כתב: > Hey, the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Chinese conversion, search engines, and auto-detection

Brian Wolff <bawo...@gmail.com>: > Supposedly google listens: > https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/189077?hl=en > > On Wednesday, May 17, 2017, Amir E. Aharoni <amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> > wrote: > > Quite possible, but does it actually happen? >

[Wikitech-l] Chinese conversion, search engines, and auto-detection

Hi, I wondered about some things around the Chinese variant conversion: * When a person uses a search engine, do the links in the results point directly to one of the variants? That is, does it point to https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-cn/Article_name , etc., or simply to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global language preference

2017-05-11 17:16 GMT+03:00 Brad Jorsch (Anomie) : > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 7:41 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > > > How is duplicating a default > > value to hundreds of wikis, in a separate code base with its own user > > interface, a sane or desirable

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global language preference

There's an RFC about that: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Global_user_preferences A lot of things that should be global aren't global. Global user accounts are really global user names, passwords, and email addresses, and not much else. User ids are not quite global—there is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Roadmap for CX?

http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2017-05-02 15:10 GMT+03:00 Strainu <strain...@gmail.com>: > 2017-05-02 11:42 GMT+03:00 Amir E. Aharoni <amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il>: > > 2017-04-27 8:55 GMT+03:00 Strainu

Re: [Wikitech-l] Roadmap for CX?

2017-04-27 8:55 GMT+03:00 Strainu : > Following the recent outage, we've had a new series of complaints > about the lack of improvements in CX, especially related to > server-side activities like saving/publishing pages. > > Now, I know the team is involved in a long-term

Re: [Wikitech-l] Roadmap for CX?

Yes, it's pretty clear that Strainu refers to Content Translation. "CX" is the most common abbreviation for it; see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Content_translation/Documentation/FAQ#What_is_CX.3F_Why_not_.22CT.22.3F . Occasionally people say "CT", "CTT", "CXT", and other things, but "CX" is the

Re: [Wikitech-l] catching errors in local JavaScript

That's OK—I mainly want to know that the error occurred at all. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2017-01-19 12:16 GMT-08:00 Bartosz Dziewoński : > Oh, and also,

[Wikitech-l] catching errors in local JavaScript

Hallo Wikitech community, Remind me please, were there ever any efforts to get client-side JavaScript errors monitored centrally? What happens currently is that JS code can frequently fail, taking down the rest of JS on the page with it. It happens both with JS code properly deployed from Gerrit

Re: [Wikitech-l] [[Link]]s deprecated?

I really, really don't think that it was ever _declared_ as deprecated, in any RFC or major architecture document . If it was, I'd like to read where. That said, in practice Visual Editor treats characters that come immediately after links differently: 1. If the caret is at the end of link, but

Re: [Wikitech-l] ORES going into production

Are links for data about worklist progress also moving? I am using http://labels.wmflabs.org/campaigns/hewiki/?campaigns=stats for seeing how far is Hebrew from completion. Should I use a different link now? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Git/Gerrit/Code Review technical documentation updates

2016-05-23 14:22 GMT+03:00 Andre Klapper : > Some stuff I did not touch (as perfect is the enemy of good). > For example, I'm still wondering about the role of > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git_for_dummies compared to >

[Wikitech-l] some statistics about auto-inserted

Hi, There's a thing I've been doing for exactly one year now, and some people on this list may find it interesting: I've been counting how many article space edits in the Hebrew Wikipedia added a tag. These tags are very rarely needed in articles, but they are often added in edits that go

[Wikitech-l] Phab blogs

Hi, I only now noticed that Phabricator has blogs: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/phame/blog/ I couldn't find a way to subscribe to them in RSS. Is it possible? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in

Re: [Wikitech-l] tags are a usability nightmare for editing on mediawiki.org

-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2016-04-12 23:31 GMT+03:00 Jon Robson : > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Niklas Laxström > wrote:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mostly about anglophile devs, and a small complaint about VisualEditor

2016-03-13 20:49 GMT+02:00 John Erling Blad : > I'm not the most active bug reporter, but when I report a bug it is usually > because something is broken in one of the non-english languages, and > usually Norwegian. A few of the devs seems to believe that the only > language

Re: [Wikitech-l] Page for newbie/projects?

The usual suggestions is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2016-01-20 18:00 GMT+02:00 Andrew Lih

[Wikitech-l] meta: AbuseFilter on mediawiki.org and related sites

Hi, At least twice I found AbuseFilters that prevented people from testing extensions that I develop or posting feedback about them on MediaWiki.org and the beta testing sites (such as http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page ). By their nature, the extensions I am working on have a

Re: [Wikitech-l] CI and cross repository dependencies

Wonderful, thank you, this should be very useful. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2015-11-19 15:19 GMT+02:00 Antoine Musso : > Hello, > > We often have the case

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia is down

I had this a few minutes ago and now I get Error Our servers are currently experiencing a technical problem. This is probably temporary and should be fixed soon. בתאריך 26 באוק׳ 2015 17:20,‏ "Strainu" כתב: > All Wikimedia sites show me the same error. I'd log a bug if I

Re: [Wikitech-l] [QA] #Beta-Cluster is now #Beta-Cluster-infrastructure and now there's #Beta-Cluster-reproducible

> NB: #Beta-Cluster-reproducible isn't the best name in the world, and > we're open to better/additional names if you have them, but we went with > what made sense for now and can change it later. Naming is hard. How about "#unbreak-before-it-hits-production"? Seriously. Once it does hit

Re: [Wikitech-l] renaming Wikimedia domains

2015-08-27 9:04 GMT+03:00 Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:02 PM Alex Monk kren...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 August 2015 at 04:57, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: If we can serve from two different domains, surely we could serve from two domains, delete 1,

[Wikitech-l] renaming Wikimedia domains

Hi, Is it possible in 2015 to rename Wikimedia domains? The usual domain name structure for a Wikimedia project is languageCode.project.org: en.wikipedia.org, it.wikisource.org, etc. In a few projects the language code in the domain is different from the actual language code: 'als' is a code

[Wikitech-l] Phabricator tag for bugs in local projects

Hi, In the past it happened to me a few times that I opened bugs about something wrong that happened on a Wikimedia site, and it was closed as invalid because the issue was not in MediaWiki code, but in a local gadget, style or template on that project. The bugs were actually fixed, but I'd like

[Wikitech-l] statistics about frequent section titles

Hi, Did anybody ever try to collect statistics about frequent section titles in Wikimedia projects? For Wikipedia, for example, titles such as Biography, Early life, Bibliography, External links, References, History, etc., appear in a lot of articles, and their counterparts appear in a lot of

Re: [Wikitech-l] +2 in mediawiki/* for Liangent

About time! Congratulations! בתאריך 12 ביולי 2015 03:43,‏ Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com כתב: Hi, Per [1], I gave Liangent +2 powers in mediawiki/* repos. Congratulations! [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98386 -- Legoktm ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] global cleanup of nowiki

2015-06-30 22:16 GMT+03:00 Arlo Breault abrea...@wikimedia.org: On Sunday, June 21, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: Thanks Arlo. I added a few. But I'm not sure that it answers my original question: Will this be done every time a page happens to edited in VE and saved

Re: [Wikitech-l] global cleanup of nowiki

http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2015-06-20 19:45 GMT+03:00 Arlo Breault abrea...@wikimedia.org: On Friday, June 19, 2015 at 1:38 AM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: There may be more - I'm still looking for these. If you find any, please

[Wikitech-l] global cleanup of nowiki

Hi, In the last few days I've been looking for reasons for the appearance of unnecessary nowiki tags. This mostly happens because of various VisualEditor and Parsoid issues. The developers have been very good at fixing them, and now it happens very rarely, but there are still lots of these

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

, but shouldn't this be possible to do from the dashboard? Thanks for all of your work on this, because I do believe translating existing content is a direction that I personally want to take in the Wikiverse in general. Jane Thanks, Jane On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Amir E. Aharoni

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

tool (from Magnus) so you could use that: https://tools.wmflabs.org/magnustools/prepbio.php On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hi Jane, Thanks for trying ContentTranslation and providing feedback. Replies inline. I decided to translate

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Mediawiki-i18n] [Wikimedia-l] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

If I understand the question correctly, it's a matter of support that we should and can to our machine translation providers. Currently there's only - Apertium, but there may be more in the future. The Language engineering team members met Apertium developers in a machine translation conference

[Wikitech-l] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

[ cross-posted to MediaWiki-i18n, Wikimedia-L and Wikitech-L ] Dear Wikimedians, The 2000th article that was written using the ContentTranslation extension was published today. Article #2000 was translated from English to Greek, and it's about Škocjan Caves, a UNESCO World Heritage site in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lists as first class citizens

2015-04-17 8:53 GMT+03:00 quiddity pandiculat...@gmail.com: On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: [1] I remember User:Sj calling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Backlog the best page on Wikipedia; he's quite right. +1

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lists as first class citizens

I agree that lists is a bigger thing in Wikimedia world than many people think, possibly because of lot of work on lists happens as homegrown projects by caring volunteer editors. Various personal and group task lists, backlogs[1], wikiprojects, list-based editathons, education programs, Articles

Re: [Wikitech-l] VisualEditor support for table copy-and-paste from Word

Hear hear. The VE people's amazing wizardry deserves praise. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2015-04-15 11:05 GMT+03:00 Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com: James, I just want to say a

[Wikitech-l] odd namespace number

Hi, Flow has a new namespace: Topic. It has an even namespace number by default: 2600. Talk pages till now have had odd numbers, and some scripts relied on that. For example, a project to analyze usage of Hebrew online used this, um, feature to identify whether the page being analyzed is in a

Re: [Wikitech-l] odd namespace number

: On Apr 2, 2015 7:01 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hi, Flow has a new namespace: Topic. It has an even namespace number by default: 2600. Liquid threads did the same thing. Afaik nothing bad happened (although i think its important to have namespace 2601 defined

Re: [Wikitech-l] Cross wiki templates

Templates can pull all the values for parameters from Wikidata, so that instead of writing the template name and a lot of lines with parameters and values, you just write {{Infobox city}}. Unfortunately I don't know of any examples of templates that actually do it, but maybe Wikidata people can

[Wikitech-l] ignoring composer.lock

Hi, Should composer.lock be added to .gitignore? It may be different for different extensions. In ContentTranslation we currently only have: require: { php: =5.3.0, composer/installers: =1.0.1 }, I don't know much about Composer, but it looks like nothing more than the bare minimum.

[Wikitech-l] w3c editing task force

Hi, I just found out that w3c has an editing task force, which tries to address the nightmare that is contenteditable: http://w3c.github.io/editing-explainer/tf-charter.html Does Wikimedia participate in it in any way? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

Whatever the translators to each language at translatewiki will do. These letters are translatable. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2015-02-14 20:33 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who moved my cheese?

I do have a lot of respect towards the people who work on modularization and librarizatin and vagrant and all that, but yes - I generally agree. There's the API mailing list, and many emails on it are about breaking changes, but it has relatively low traffic in general, so it's OK to mix it.

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

It's relevant for all projects and languages. I haven't done it in a while, but I had my periods of massive AWB editing, and other RC patrollers rightly complained about it and asked me to do such things with a bot account. thinkingoutloudThe question is, how would it be different from the usual

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

I am not a lawyer, but I am a little bit of a Free Software geek. Very briefly, GPL 3 adds restrictions on using software patents and DRM with the programs that use it. I'm not even entirely sure what these restrictions are. My very wild guess us that MediaWiki probably can go the GPL 3 way.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Parsoid's progress

Exactly: The HTML to wikitext conversion is what makes Parsoid useful, and not only for VE. Thanks to Parsoid, ContentTranslation has a simple rich text editor with contenteditable (not a full VE, though this may change in the future). We are just starting to deploy it to production, but the

[Wikitech-l] broken user scripts getting in the way of other features

Hallo, I am a bit of advocate for VisualEditor in my home Wikipedia (Hebrew), and I ran into a user with a curious problem: He is an experienced editor, and he was positive about trying to edit with VE, but it didn't work for him. After a bit of poking around I found that he has a common.js in

[Wikitech-l] links to non-existent #sections

Hallo, If I link to a section (anchor) that doesn't exist, for example [[Valentina Tereshkova#There's no such section]], the link will still be blue. Did anybody ever consider showing them in a different color, for example? I cannot find anything like that in Phabricator. -- Amir Elisha

[Wikitech-l] template condition performance

Hallo, The second most popular tempate in the Hebrew Wikipedia is one that inserts the rlm character[1]. It has an optional parameter. If it's used, it inserts the lrm character instead. The condition runs in every transclusion. Running a condition every time seems to me like an unnecessary

Re: [Wikitech-l] What to do with TimedMediaHandler

Sorry about the shameless plug, but I'd love to add this to the list: Integration TimedText with Translate. Phab: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44495 Most of your list is technical debt, whereas translation would be an actual feature, and possibly not even a very complicated one to do. --

Re: [Wikitech-l] You'll likely get a bunch of Diffusion e-mails

Respect. Thanks for your work and the clarification email, Chad. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014-12-10 17:58 GMT+02:00 Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com: The links may not go

[Wikitech-l] dropping bug title prefixes such as VisualEditor: after moving to Phab

Hi, In Bugzilla some projects used prefixes in bug titles. I guess that it was done to make sure that people understand to what project does the bug pertain as quickly as possible. The one that I ran into most frequently is VisualEditor:, and there may be others. In Phab I see that bug (task?)

Re: [Wikitech-l] dropping bug title prefixes such as VisualEditor: after moving to Phab

2014-11-24 13:26 GMT+02:00 Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org: On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hi, In Bugzilla some projects used prefixes in bug titles. I guess that it was done to make sure that people understand to what project does

Re: [Wikitech-l] Identifying potential cross-language contributions

2014-11-17 10:13 GMT+02:00 svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, at 09:58, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: There's the ContentTranslation project - an extension to help people translate articles. Among other things, this project has a feature that suggests people who (probably

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