[Wikitech-l] Re: [Proposal] Disable setting the "Lowest" Priority value in Phabricator

Can I just note that however you word it, closing volunteers' good faith bugs because nobody is available from the organisation right now is an excellent way to get them never to file a bug again. - d. On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 at 12:02, Jaime Crespo wrote: > > Hi, > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 4:32 

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

org/pipermail/security-sig/> for example)." > > > > > > Here's an example: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/security-sig/ > > (with a > > > notice). > > > > > > It means, the old archives will stay the same (and accessible/searchable > &

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

yes - those links are thrown around as if they're archival. How will the change affect links to past messages? Will someone need to construct a redirect farm? - d. On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 at 19:54, AntiCompositeNumber wrote: > > Glad to hear this is moving forward! > > Keeping archive links

Re: [Wikitech-l] What ways are there to include user-edited JavaScript in a wiki page? (threat model: crypto miners)

ng). >>> >>> Maybe something else to think about? >>> >>> ~Leon >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 5:46 PM, Eran Rosenthal <eranro...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > Lego already did a script to verify no external

[Wikitech-l] What ways are there to include user-edited JavaScript in a wiki page? (threat model: crypto miners)

What ways are there to include user-edited JavaScript in a wiki page? I ask because someone put this revision in (which is now deleted): https://fa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D9%85%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C:Common.js=next=22367460=en You can't see it now, but it was

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 4 March 2018)

On 4 March 2018 at 02:41, Pine W wrote: > What's making you happy this week? Trimmed my en:wp watchlist to pages I was actually interested in and cared about. Made a few more meaningful edits I was more interested in this way :-) really, if you edit with "add page to my

Re: [Wikitech-l] Recommending Firefox to users using legacy browsers?

There's a pile of minor open source browsers too ... maybe redirect to a page with a list. - d. On 31 August 2017 at 22:48, Neil Patel Quinn wrote: > Personally (because I have no expertise in thing kind of thing in my WMF > capacity), I'd very much support this. It

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bitcoin donations

https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Ways_to_Give Thank you very much! - d. On 22 August 2017 at 23:58, Aran wrote: > If you guys had a bitcoin option in your donation form you'd get more > donations (like from me!). I don't have any balance in paypal, but > sending

Re: [Wikitech-l] Turkey ban

On 2 May 2017 at 18:18, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > I think that's the first time I've heard Wikipedia described as bewitching. > I'll take it as a compliment. > FWIW, I have a hard time parsing this as bad news. Someone hiring 20,000 > professional writers to create a freely

Re: [Wikitech-l] [MediaWiki-announce] Security release 1.27.3 and 1.28.2

Does this apply only specifically to the old thing called SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi , or also to the current thing called SyntaxHighlight that my MW 1.27.2 shows as SyntaxHighlight 2.0? On 30 April 2017 at 21:30, Chad Horohoe wrote: > Hello! > > I would like to announce the

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikipedia-l] Data centre switchover to Eqiad

Would a sitenotice for logged-in users, or at least a watchlist notice, be a good idea? - d. On 30 April 2017 at 19:08, zppix e wrote: > Hello, as you may or may not already know there will be a datacentre > switch back to Eqiad, WMF's main data centre, on May 3rd

Re: [Wikitech-l] Introduction

On 20 March 2017 at 01:03, MZMcBride wrote: > In the footer of every Wikimedia wiki, there should be a "Developers" link > that leads to . > You can see this link at > or

Re: [Wikitech-l] Debian and Ubuntu packages for MediaWiki now available

Don't forget to update the wiki: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Ubuntu https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Debian - d. On 22 September 2016 at 07:44, Legoktm wrote: > Hi, > > I'm very excited to announce that Debian and Ubuntu packages for > MediaWiki are now

Re: [Wikitech-l] Loosing the history of our projects to bitrot. Was: Acquiring list of templates including external links

On 1 August 2016 at 17:37, Marc-Andre wrote: > We need to find a long-term view to a solution. I don't mean just keeping > old versions of the software around - that would be of limited help. It's > be an interesting nightmare to try to run early versions of phase3 nowadays,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Crediting the work of our community members

Other projects don't do this, do they? Mozilla and LibreOffice just list *everyone* in alphabetical order. (I'm still in the Mozilla credits list for my work on the Mozilla 1.0 FAQ in 2002: https://www.mozilla.org/credits/ ) On 30 May 2016 at 17:40, Jon Robson wrote: > "I

[Wikitech-l] historical trivia: who first picked UTC as Wikimedia time, when and why?

Question about obscure historical detail: Who picked UTC as Wikimedia time? When was this, and what was the thought process? (the answer is almost certainly "Brion or Jimbo, early 2001, it's the obvious choice", but I'm just curious as to details.) - d.

Re: [Wikitech-l] REL1_27 branches up

On 5 May 2016 at 02:52, Chad wrote: > The release branches (REL1_27) have been created for MW core, vendor, > all extensions and all skins. MediaWiki core is now on 1.28.0-alpha. When's the first public beta and RC? (I expected to see this on the wiki, but it just has

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mostly about anglophile devs, and a small complaint about VisualEditor

On 13 March 2016 at 20:43, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: > 1. Type '{{' to open template insert dialog ... this is something I never knew existed. Thank you! > By the way, there's a list of all available keyboard shortcuts built into > VisualEditor – it's under the '?'

Re: [Wikitech-l] [MediaWiki-l] InstantCommons - Images disappearing again

On 4 February 2016 at 17:14, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: > No, it was a change in the underlying image handling code that broke API > prop=imageinfo in 1.27.0-wmf.12. Tracked as > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125804, and now resolved. yep, working for us now.

Re: [Wikitech-l] [MediaWiki-l] InstantCommons - Images disappearing again

I came here to post about the same problem. It appears to have broken this morning. Did the API change again? On 4 February 2016 at 07:33, Dr. Michael Bonert wrote: > In September 2014, I described an intermittent recurrent problem associated > with the InstantCommons

Re: [Wikitech-l] Forking, branching, merging, and drafts on Wikipedia

On 7 November 2015 at 00:29, Brian Wolff wrote: > I feel like different people want different things, and what is really > needed is a user-centric discussion of use-cases to drive a feature > wishlist, not any sort of discussion about implementation. Yes. I see the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct: Intro, Principles, and Unacceptable behavior sections

The first and last paras are particularly worth quoting: > Earlier this year I pulled out of a conference because the organiser and I > disagreed on code of conducts. Specifically I thought there should be one, > and he did not. He did eventually add one, but refused to define unacceptable >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct: Intro, Principles, and Unacceptable behavior sections

On 6 September 2015 at 00:11, MZMcBride wrote: > become so enmeshed with the ultra-liberal feminist movement. I think there It would probably be fascinating to have this technical term defined with any specificity. > of this content, but I can see a lot potential allies

Re: [Wikitech-l] "Try the free Wikipedia app" banners

On 4 September 2015 at 20:12, Brandon Harris wrote: > So it seems to me that the apps are not required to fulfill the > mission. They feel like distractions, and - quite possibly - negatives to > the mission (in that we can't convert Readers into Editors through

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

On 4 September 2015 at 01:38, Ricordisamoa wrote: > Il 04/09/2015 01:24, Brandon Harris ha scritto: >>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Ricordisamoa >>> wrote: >>> I appreciate the acknowledgement of failure. >> I don't think

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

On 2 September 2015 at 14:51, Risker wrote: > I want to thank the Collaboration team for taking this brave step - and > yes, it's a brave step. The natural trajectory of large projects that don't > quite seem to meet their promise is to keep going and going until everyone >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

On 2 September 2015 at 07:27, Dan Garry wrote: > On 1 September 2015 at 23:21, Federico Leva (Nemo) > wrote: >> Thanks. So now we'll have two unmaintained extensions, LQT and Flow. > To quote Danny's email directly, "Flow will be maintained and

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

On 23 August 2015 at 03:52, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps more importantlywho were the local contacts at Hackathon 2015? I can't even dig that one up in the event documentation. A policy that exists but has no clear or visible support isn't worth the bytes it's written with.

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

I saw this today, I wonder if it's relevant to the thread: http://www.perpendicularangel.com/2015/08/no-i-dont-trust-your-conference-without-a-code-of-conduct/ Of course we're talking about stuff beyond conferences, but it still applies I'd think. - d.

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Replace Tidy with HTML 5 parse/reserialize

On 18 August 2015 at 04:15, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Brian Wolff wrote: I dont know about that. Viz editor is targeting ordinary tasks. Its the complex things that mess stuff up. In most contexts, solving the ordinary/common cases is a pretty big win. Or when it turns a complex

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

On 14 August 2015 at 22:45, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 08/12/2015 06:41 PM, David Gerard wrote: On 12 August 2015 at 23:00, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org wrote: Enforcement is still to-be-determined. This does need to be sorted out ahead of time. See my

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of conduct

On 13 August 2015 at 22:30, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: Oliver, I must be a little blind but I do not see examples of unfriendly behaviour in this thread. I linked to http://kovalc.in/2015/08/12/harassers.html - perhaps that doesn't count as unfriendly behaviour, or

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

On 12 August 2015 at 23:00, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org wrote: Enforcement is still to-be-determined. This does need to be sorted out ahead of time. Here's today's horrible example: http://kovalc.in/2015/08/12/harassers.html - d. ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

On 11 August 2015 at 00:10, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: I'm curious which comparable organizations you're referring to. Pretty much any open source project with an organisation. You've already been referred to e.g. the Geek Feminism wiki on this point, so if you haven't read up there

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

On 10 August 2015 at 14:18, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: A proposed code of conduct like this is quite expensive to implement and enforce/maintain. I personally don't get the sense from reading your replies that you acknowledge the high cost. In practice, EVERYONE ELSE WHO'S ADOPTED

Re: [Wikitech-l] Min php version

On 19 July 2015 at 19:41, Stas Malyshev smalys...@wikimedia.org wrote: The users should really seriously consider upgrading. 5.3 is EOL for a year now (which means, not even security fixes for a year) and 5.4 is going EOL in 2 months. If any of these sites are public-facing (and due to the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Min php version

On 20 July 2015 at 17:03, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: quote name=David Gerard date=2015-07-20 time=12:04:55 +0100 If this is all their host provides, however, this will in practice lead only to never-updated MediaWiki running on never-updated PHP. Not much anyone other than

Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

On 2 July 2015 at 20:55, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: I am also interested in the answer to Nemo's question about whether this is the first piece of proprietary software ever entering use in the Wikimedia projects land? [not actually relevant, but since you ask ...] First

Re: [Wikitech-l] Parsoid announcement: Main roundtrip quality target achieved

I didn't have anything in mind, evidently I was just vague on what the stuff in there is and does :-) On 26 June 2015 at 16:52, Subramanya Sastry ssas...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 06/25/2015 06:29 PM, David Gerard wrote: On 25 June 2015 at 23:22, Subramanya Sastry ssas...@wikimedia.org wrote

Re: [Wikitech-l] Parsoid announcement: Main roundtrip quality target achieved

On 25 June 2015 at 23:22, Subramanya Sastry ssas...@wikimedia.org wrote: On behalf of the parsing team, here is an update about Parsoid, the bidirectional wikitext - HTML parser that supports Visual Editor, Flow, and Content Translation. xcellent. How close are we to binning the PHP

Re: [Wikitech-l] GRAPH extension is now live everywhere!

Is there a facility to use this in VE? On 6 May 2015 at 12:25, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: I think this is great but I'm still super super concerned about the support for Embedded directly with graph. I'm concerned as if used this way we risk making wikitext even more like code and

Re: [Wikitech-l] VisualEditor support for table copy-and-paste from Word

On 15 April 2015 at 09:38, Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm glad to hear VE had your back. This actually reminds me, there's a feature we never really advertised in VisualEditor where a CSV file can be dragged into the editor and a table is created from its contents. We need

Re: [Wikitech-l] Maps

Looks like just a collaboration :-) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Collaboration_with_Wikipedia Obviously we should be doing our own tile rendering and serving, for example. On 18 March 2015 at

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor proxy with blinded tokens

On 17 March 2015 at 02:55, Gergo Tisza gti...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Daniel Friesen dan...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: Bitcoin is not untraceable. An adversary capable enough to eavesdrop on dissidents' communication making them need Tor should be capable of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global user pages deployed to all wikis

Nice one! Will anyone be porting all the Babel templates? That's a seriously useful thing that should go there, and they aren't on Meta yet. On 19 February 2015 at 01:06, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! Global user pages have now been deployed to all public wikis for users

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

On 10 February 2015 at 23:19, Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongm...@gmail.com wrote: In fact I would prefer to go to a less restrictive license, but that is probably not worth the fight. And is also infeasible. For a web service. GPL is effectively weak copyleft already; I think that's quite weak

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

On 9 February 2015 at 08:28, Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote: OpenOffice's woes are unrelated to its license, it was already dead by forking when Oracle transferred it to Apache, facilitating a change from GPL+proprietary CLA to the Apache license. Indeed, but they touted the

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

On 9 February 2015 at 04:51, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Also, one cost of copyleft licenses is that they are much, much more complicated than permissive licenses. Even though many people feel comfortable with the compliance requirements of most OSI-approved licenses, the

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

On 8 February 2015 at 11:12, Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 2:13 AM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: (Also, we actually can’t switch to the MIT license without express permissions from every developer who ever contributed to core anyway.) Same applies

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

On 7 February 2015 at 22:20, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: **However**, I’d like to take this opportunity and jump a step further. What would everybody think of switching to the AGPLv3 instead? The advantage that this provides, for those who don’t know, is a single additional

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

On 7 February 2015 at 23:39, wctaiwan wctaiwan+li...@gmail.com wrote: IANAL, but if there is some flexibility here, I would argue that extensions should *not* be considered derivatives. Legally, because extensions do not contain MediaWiki code (beyond using the programming API provided by core

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

right now (link in the footer and extension information on Special:Version) should fulfill compliance automatically for third parties. -- Tyler Romeo On Feb 7, 2015 6:00 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 February 2015 at 22:20, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Wikitech-l] SOA in .NET, or Microsoft is going open source MIT style

Functionally. If you make a loud public declaration WE SHALL NOT SUE then you sue, judges *tend* to look upon it very unfavourably. YMMV of course. On 4 February 2015 at 13:42, Nikolas Everett never...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 5:09 AM, Yuri Astrakhan yastrak...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Thoughts: stateless services with open servers?

On 28 January 2015 at 08:13, Daniel Friesen dan...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: We could also try convincing the semi-decent shared hosts like Dreamhost and Linode to run a service of their own for their customers. Yes, reaching out to a shared hosting company or two is definitely something to

Re: [Wikitech-l] I haven't looked lately...

On 19 January 2015 at 01:46, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: Aha! Sorry; I was behind on Parsoid, was the problem. Yeah, if there's a way to edit in MWtext, both for humans and programs, then that serves the use cases I would be concerned about. Thanks for the prompt clarification,

Re: [Wikitech-l] The future of shared hosting

On 16 January 2015 at 07:38, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: These days I'm not convinced it's our job to support every possible scale of wiki install. There's several simpler and smaller wiki solutions for people who can't do more than FTP a few files to a folder. In this case the

Re: [Wikitech-l] The future of shared hosting

On 16 January 2015 at 16:09, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: So what we might end up with: - Wikimedia using the SOA MediaWiki with split components maintained by staff and the Wikimedia volunteers devs. Code which is of no use for the cluster is dropped which would surely ease

Re: [Wikitech-l] The future of shared hosting

On 16 January 2015 at 17:10, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: quote name=David Gerard date=2015-01-16 time=16:27:22 + This is not a great idea because it makes WMF wikis unforkable in practical terms. The data is worthless without being able to run an instance of the software

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Unsolicited digital currency donations

Yes. 1. penny-shavings for commits sets up terrible motivations. 2. these people are claiming money in developers' names without permission. 3. there's no evidence the whole thing isn't the scam it looks like. On 9 January 2015 at 08:18, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: Link for those

Re: [Wikitech-l] Stance on Social Media

I'd say: hit social media! Make MediaWiki and Wikimedia look like a *happening place*. Everyone [*] who runs PHP is looking seriously at HHVM right now, and that's entirely because WMF moved to it. The Phabricator migration made it to lwn.net, which is low-traffic but high-quality. Basically,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Andre's Bugzilla-Phabricator migration analysis

On 19 December 2014 at 10:45, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: Andre won't tell you, but he wrote this: http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/2014/12/17/welcome-phabricator/ The best in-depth analysis of a Bugzilla to Phabricator migration available in the Internet. Not that there is much

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki core tests now require HHVM compliance

Is Zend PHP still tested also? On 18 December 2014 at 17:11, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Hello, Jenkins runs the MediaWiki core unit tests under HHVM and the job will now prevent changes to be merged if it fails. Huge thanks to everyone that helped fix tests and HHVM code base!

Re: [Wikitech-l] All non-api traffic is now served by HHVM

On 3 December 2014 at 17:03, Giuseppe Lavagetto glavage...@wikimedia.org wrote: it's been quite a journey since we started working on HHVM, and last week (November 25th) HHVM was finally introduced to all users who didn't opt-in to the beta feature. Excellent! Excellent! Does that make us

Re: [Wikitech-l] Our CAPTCHA is very unfriendly

On 3 December 2014 at 23:08, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: Surely we can come up with a creative idea that is: * Easy for humans to solve * Can't be solved by out-of-the-box captcha breakers * Isn't trivial for programmers to solve * isn't an abomination for accessibility -

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feature request.

On 16 November 2014 22:36, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: James: would it be possible to automatically save the text of a page to a user's sandbox when they encounter an edit conflict? This would overwrite the content of the sandbox, but that could be reverted using the normal history page

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feature request.

On 16 November 2014 22:58, Zack Weinberg za...@cmu.edu wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Alex Monk kren...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like the data loss here was purely due to user error, David. Don't blame the victim. +1. This is precisely the dataloss that needs to be averted.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Our CAPTCHA is very unfriendly

On 9 November 2014 09:27, aude aude.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious, Risker: if you don't mind my asking, what about being required to supply a throwaway email address would have discouraged you from opening a Wikimedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] JSON and Scribunto

On 4 November 2014 20:45, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: * People may store data in JSON blobs that must be parsed where a module using mw.loadData would be more appropriate. * People may write templates that attempt to bypass the normal MediaWiki parameter handling

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Technical Debt

On 23 October 2014 16:16, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: I've looked at the code and it's quality of most of these projects at some point in the last two years, and have to say this graph is much in line with my impressions. And with what the knowledgeable people at PHP

Re: [Wikitech-l] SSL 3.0 disabled on Wikimedia sites

On 17 October 2014 19:04, Mark Bergsma m...@wikimedia.org wrote: If you see or hear about anyone having issues connecting to our sites over HTTPS or logging in, please direct them at the link above, and urge them to upgrade their software. Unfortunately due to the nature of HTTPS we're not

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Security and Maintenance Releases: 1.19.19, 1.22.11 and 1.23.4

Adding the space to includes/XmlTypeCheck.php before applying the patch worked. Thank you! On 26 September 2014 19:23, Grunny mwgru...@gmail.com wrote: It's because there's a leading space before the tab in front of the comment here:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Removal of Scribunto's Allow saving code with errors option

So how much broken Lua is out there in the wild on WMF wikis? On 29 September 2014 01:17, Jackmcbarn jackmcb...@gmail.com wrote: Scribunto has an option to allow code to be saved even if it contains syntax errors that prevent it from ever working. The original reason for this feature was to

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Security and Maintenance Releases: 1.19.19, 1.22.11 and 1.23.4

On 24 September 2014 23:28, Markus Glaser gla...@hallowelt.biz wrote: Patch to previous version (1.19.18): https://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.19/mediawiki-1.19.19.patch.gz So I downloaded and applied this. gunzipped it, got this: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13663 Sep 24 21:35

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

I asked this on wikimedia-l in the recent discussion with no answer. I was wondering what the status of this feature was ... - d. -- Forwarded message -- From: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com Date: 1 September 2014 18:00 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pre-release announcement for MediaWiki releases 1.22.10 and 1.23.3

So 1.19 is officially finished? On 27 August 2014 01:02, Markus Glaser gla...@hallowelt.biz wrote: Hello everyone, this is a notice that on 27th August between 20:00-22:00 UTC we will release maintenance updates for current and legacy branches of the MediaWiki software. Downloads and

Re: [Wikitech-l] User rating for beta features (was Re: Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings)

As a MediaWiki tarball user, I'd *love* something to rate extensions - even to show if anyone actually uses it and cares. On 20 August 2014 19:14, Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com wrote: I fully agree with Dan on that. I'd be much more interested in +/- votes on feedback

[Wikitech-l] Not that this is reminiscent of anything anyone here works on

http://threepanelsoul.com/2014/06/02/code-maintenance/ - d. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] extra docs in beta gadgets tab (was: superprotect; was: 'everyone who tries to speak for 'community' is censored and trying to blame it for own lack of interest')

On 16 August 2014 12:36, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: specifically i'd like to see links to documentation on gadget extension writing right inside of 'gadgets' and 'beta' tabs somewhere in big fat banner at the bottom of each of these tabs 'want to add your gadget/beta feature?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

Call it Bob. Bob is always a good name. - d. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

but if you are a mobile developer using the REST API every day, you need some other term to specify api.php. Is api.php unsuitable for some reason? - d ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Linux distros or Solaris for MediaWiki

Where does it say it's unsupported? Some older page, talking about the distro version? I routinely use MW from tarball on Ubuntu and it's fine. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Debian/Ubuntu I'd personally recommend you install the prerequisites then use the MediaWiki tarball, but the distro 1.19

Re: [Wikitech-l] Winter, v. 0.6

When all the bits on the sides are actually functional *and* it works in IE, presumably :-) On 14 July 2014 17:40, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Beautiful! When can we expect to be able to enable this as a beta feature and try it out on Wikipedia.org? On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 5:55 AM,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Winter, v. 0.6

I *love* how typing into the search bar gives you related articles. How are you doing that? - d. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Winter, v. 0.6

Actually one annoyance I just found: I can't right-click on the talk page link. Is there any good reason to make this a Javascript thing rather than an ordinary link? On 14 July 2014 23:55, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: I *love* how typing into the search bar gives you related articles

Re: [Wikitech-l] Winter, v. 0.6

On 15 July 2014 22:09, Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org wrote: /scramble, scramble, scramble. The curse of doing something people like! - d. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Bug Bounty Program

As a third-party user: I completely concur. NDAs for security bug access are pretty much standard, aren't they? - d. On 26 June 2014 15:08, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: I’ll be frank. I care a lot more about the security of MediaWiki as a software product, as well as the

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

On 10 June 2014 15:34, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: * User talk pages. Do we need multithread tree discussions in our user talk pages? No, we don't. And yet this is a popular use for LQT on LQT-using wikis, so will need to be covered by Flow. * Regular talk pages. In most cases a

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

The key thing about Usenet and email is that the first-class entity was the individual message - on web forums, the first-class entity is the thread. On Usenet or email, a thread is something strung together on the fly from the surviving References: headers of whatever messages have made it as far

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

On 9 June 2014 10:30, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: [1] i.e. a tree structure is far less powerful than what we have now to approximate the domain, a dag with dividable nodes probably comes closer, and is already fiendishly complicated to pull off on a UI level. And then I

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

On 6 June 2014 19:17, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I have yet to see a discussion system that surpasses (or really even comes close) to standard talk page :::comment here. syntax. Honestly it would make me happy if we just used that in general. The exception being

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

On 6 June 2014 20:12, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:27 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: YMMV. Wikipedia is pretty much enculturated, but RationalWiki gets n00bs *all the time* who object to something on a page. You know what the most

Re: [Wikitech-l] Hardening WP/WM against traffic analysis (take two)

On 5 June 2014 17:45, Zack Weinberg za...@cmu.edu wrote: I'd like to restart the conversation about hardening Wikipedia (or possibly Wikimedia in general) against traffic analysis. Or, indeed, MediaWiki tarball version itself. - d. ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

On 5 June 2014 21:38, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: So from what I can see Flow pretty much does everything LiquidThreads does. Usually better (permalinks with LiquidThreads are one thing that completely bugs me - they don't always take me to the correct place) As I understand it

Re: [Wikitech-l] That you to anonymous users

. Personally, I would love to see the Thanks feature be used even more than it is today, as it seems like such a civilized way to show appreciation to each other :) Cheers, Fabrice On May 20, 2014, at 7:56 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 May 2014 15:35, Strainu strain

Re: [Wikitech-l] That you to anonymous users

On 20 May 2014 15:35, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: I've recently noticed the Thank you feature is only available for signed-in users, while anons cannot receive thank yous. The anonymous users are often the ones that would need encouraging the most, so it would make sense to me to have

[Wikitech-l] VE in 1.23? (was: Mozilla's Wiki Working Group meeting Tues 1600 UTC)

On 5 May 2014 22:59, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: Mozilla has a new Wiki Working Group[0] to develop and drive a roadmap of improvements to http://wiki.mozilla.org;. They're currently on MediaWiki 1.19, and I predict they will want to get onto 1.23 once that is released

Re: [Wikitech-l] VE in 1.23? (was: Mozilla's Wiki Working Group meeting Tues 1600 UTC)

On 5 May 2014 23:08, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 5 May 2014 15:05, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: So ... how is 1.23 and Visual Editor? * Has anyone sat down and written out how to add VE magic to a 1.23 tarball install? I do not believe so, no. If someone

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposed body font stack for Latin

On 15 April 2014 05:48, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: So what is the explanation, then? What was so wrong with the defaults? Do you have any links? I must ask again: Where are the user test results? Are there any? I've asked several times and had no response. - d.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Another Wikipedia design concept

Could you or your friend please post https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Unsolicited_redesigns to the thread? Designers generally do better with a spec ;-) On 15 April 2014 15:29, Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com wrote: A friend of mine just spotted this:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposed body font stack for Latin

On 15 April 2014 17:24, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Really a 0? What would comic sans get? High scores for readability! It's also well-known to be very business-friendly. - d. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

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