Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki logo

2020-10-26 Thread Denny Vrandečić
SInce thanking yourself would be weird, allow me to express my thanks for all your work and shepherding during the logo process (and well beyond that, but let's keep focus here). Amir, thank you! On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 8:05 AM Amir Sarabadani wrote: > Hello people! > So the voting period is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

2020-08-08 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Thank you so much! On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 13:56 Amir Sarabadani wrote: > Hey, > Mailman, the software that powers our mailing lists, is extremely old, by > looking at https://lists.wikimedia.org/ you can guess how old it is. > > I would really like to upgrade it to mailman 3 which has these

Re: [Wikitech-l] A difficult goodbye

2019-01-15 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Thanks Victoria! I really enjoyed our interaction, and thank you for what you did for the movement. I wish you all the best on your future path, and hope you are not becoming a stranger! Best wishes, Denny On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 10:25 AM Amir Sarabadani wrote: > One thing I want to point out

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata] [Wikipedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in an abstract language

2019-01-15 Thread Denny Vrandečić
AllPages=202 > e.g. http://mappings.dbpedia.org/index.php/OntologyProperty:BirthDate > > You could directly use the DBpedia-lemon lexicalisation for Wikidata. > > The mappings can be downloaded with > > git clone https://github.com/dbpedia/extraction-framework ; cd core ; > ../run download-mappin

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata] [Wikipedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in an abstract language

2019-01-14 Thread Denny Vrandečić
ding because this (ambitious!) proposal may be of interest to > people > > >> on other lists. I'm not endorsing the proposal at this time, but I'm > > >> curious about it. > > >> > > >> Pine > > >> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Use

Re: [Wikitech-l] Security question re password resets and Spectre

2018-01-04 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Ah, that sounds good. I was thinking of a scenario where someone runs code in, say labs, and gains access to memory while that machine generates my temporary code to send it to me, and thus gains access to that code. Or, alternatively, just attack my browser through a compromised site running a

[Wikitech-l] Security question re password resets and Spectre

2018-01-04 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I often get emails that someone is trying to get into my accounts. I guess there are just some trolls, trying to login into my Wikipedia account. So far, these have been unsuccessful. Now I got an email that someone asked for a temporary password for my account. So far so good. What I am

Re: [Wikitech-l] Turkey ban

2017-04-29 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Surely it should be possible to have a more resilient access to Wikipedia content in the app than most vanilla browsers provide? On Sat, Apr 29, 2017, 13:40 Florian Schmidt < florian.schmidt.wel...@t-online.de> wrote: > Because the app uses the same base URL for the requests to Wikipedia as >

[Wikitech-l] Turkey ban

2017-04-29 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Does it also affect the app? If so, why, and can we circumvent that? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] "must be of type int, int given"

2017-04-18 Thread Denny Vrandečić
/RedisConnectionPool.php:233 And I can't find a bool being given here. For fun, I cast $port to an int, but that didn't change anything. Grmpf. Thanks for the pointer though. On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 7:49 PM Chad <innocentkil...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 3:07 PM Denny Vrandeči

Re: [Wikitech-l] "must be of type int, int given"

2017-04-18 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Indeed, it seems your right - if I namespace the thing, the compiler actually tells me that namespace/int is not the same as int. So yeah, it probably assumes a type int here, which has no relation to the built-in scalar int. D'oh. I didn't realize until know that one wasn't allowed to use type

Re: [Wikitech-l] "must be of type int, int given"

2017-04-18 Thread Denny Vrandečić
That would be neat! On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 7:51 PM Chad <innocentkil...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 2:07 PM Gergo Tisza <gti...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 8:35 PM, Denny Vrandečić <vrande...@gmail.com> > > wrote: >

Re: [Wikitech-l] "must be of type int, int given"

2017-04-17 Thread Denny Vrandečić
#29 (): MWExceptionHandler::handleException() Apr 17 21:48:57 mediawiki-vagrant hhvm[29575]: #30 {main} On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 2:07 PM Gergo Tisza <gti...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 8:35 PM, Denny Vrandečić <vrande...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > &g

Re: [Wikitech-l] "must be of type int, int given"

2017-04-17 Thread Denny Vrandečić
The same works with bool too. I am glad I don't have to write (bool)true :) On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 1:19 PM Denny Vrandečić <vrande...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hm. If I try it in https://3v4l.org/WOTg0 I actually get good behavior > for HHMV 3.12.14 - so it might be something problema

Re: [Wikitech-l] "must be of type int, int given"

2017-04-17 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hm. If I try it in https://3v4l.org/WOTg0 I actually get good behavior for HHMV 3.12.14 - so it might be something problematic with our deployed HHMV version? On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 1:16 PM Denny Vrandečić <vrande...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for the suggestion, but I get exactly

Re: [Wikitech-l] "must be of type int, int given"

2017-04-17 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Apr 17, 2017 21:36, "Denny Vrandečić" <vrande...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I'm running into a weird problem, which made me reset my whole vagrant. > > > > I assume this is not strictly a MediaWiki issue, but probably an HHVM > > problem, but maybe someone can h

[Wikitech-l] "must be of type int, int given"

2017-04-17 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I'm running into a weird problem, which made me reset my whole vagrant. I assume this is not strictly a MediaWiki issue, but probably an HHVM problem, but maybe someone can help me here. So, if I start a fresh MediaWiki Vagrant installation, and the vagrant ssh into the virtual machine, the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Editing JSON in MediaWiki

2017-04-10 Thread Denny Vrandečić
question! On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 2:42 PM Bartosz Dziewoński <matma@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2017-04-10 06:17, Denny Vrandečić wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 11:30 PM James Hare <jamesmh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Why, exactly, do you want a wik

Re: [Wikitech-l] Editing JSON in MediaWiki

2017-04-10 Thread Denny Vrandečić
andler for JSON in mediawiki). You can edit this in VE, although w/o > any special support, and Parsoid will serialize it back to JSON. > > This could be turned into a very pleasant type-aware editor for JSON in VE > pretty easily. > --scott > > On Sun, Apr 9, 2017

Re: [Wikitech-l] Editing JSON in MediaWiki

2017-04-10 Thread Denny Vrandečić
similar activity around XML in the MediaWiki development community. Or, put differently, the same reason Wikibase is using JSON. On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 11:06 AM Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > Am 10.04.2017 um 06:17 schrieb Denny Vrandečić: > > Ah, good

Re: [Wikitech-l] Editing JSON in MediaWiki

2017-04-10 Thread Denny Vrandečić
wikitext > without going through all the trouble of writing an extension and getting > it deployed, you might write that code in Lua as a Scribunto module. > > > On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 12:17 AM, Denny Vrandečić <vrande...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at

Re: [Wikitech-l] Editing JSON in MediaWiki

2017-04-09 Thread Denny Vrandečić
ot when the markup is provided directly by an extension. The long > term > >> plan is for CollaborationListContent to put out HTML, since it’s more > >> straightforward than using a wikitext intermediary that the user does > not > >> see anyway. > >> > >>

Re: [Wikitech-l] Editing JSON in MediaWiki

2017-04-09 Thread Denny Vrandečić
On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 8:38 AM Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > Am 09.04.2017 um 08:23 schrieb Denny Vrandečić: > > Here's my requirement: > > - a wiki page is one JSON document > > - when editing, the user edits the JSON directly > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Editing JSON in MediaWiki

2017-04-09 Thread Denny Vrandečić
On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 4:11 AM Gergo Tisza wrote: > You probably want to subclass JsonContentHandler and add wikitext transform > What does it mean to add wikitext transform? > and whatever else you need. For schemas, have a look > at JsonSchemaContentHandler in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Editing JSON in MediaWiki

2017-04-09 Thread Denny Vrandečić
r the rationale in particular. > > [0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CollaborationKit > > On April 8, 2017 at 11:23:38 PM, Denny Vrandečić (vrande...@gmail.com) > wrote: > > Here's my requirement: > - a wiki page is one JSON document > - when editing, the use

[Wikitech-l] Editing JSON in MediaWiki

2017-04-09 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Here's my requirement: - a wiki page is one JSON document - when editing, the user edits the JSON directly - when viewing, I have a viewer that turns the JSON into wikitext, and that wikitext gets rendered as wikitext and turned into HTML by MediaWiki I have several options, including: 1) hook

[Wikitech-l] Phabricator access

2016-11-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Phabricator still has my wikimedia.de Email-Address and tries to confirm it's me by sending an Email to that address. Is there a way to reset the email? (The weird thing is that I seem to receive those Emails on my regular gmail account, but for logging in it still requires that I verify the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mobile JavaScript

2016-10-13 Thread Denny Vrandečić
c features (e.g. collapsing > > infoboxes). > > > > > > -Dmitry > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 7:30 PM, Denny Vrandečić <vrande...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Two stupid questions, I couldn't find the answer on MediaWiki.org: > &

[Wikitech-l] Mobile JavaScript

2016-10-13 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Two stupid questions, I couldn't find the answer on MediaWiki.org: 1) is MediaWiki:common.js being loaded on the mobile web view? Or any other js? What about User:Name/common.js? 2) same question but for the Wikipedia app. Does the app run any js? ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mass migration to new syntax - PRO or CON?

2016-02-12 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Although I haven't touched MediaWiki code for a year or so, based on my experience with large codebases with tons of contributors, I would be very much PRO. I understand it is a pain, but as Legoktm points out, it is a manageable pain. Having a consistent and higher-quality code base is worth the

Re: [Wikitech-l] What's the previous=yes parameter?

2015-11-16 Thread Denny Vrandečić
for insource:previous doesn't give me anything]. Most of the > time, MediaWiki would convert that to a url with index.php in it. > > --bawolff > > On 11/16/15, Denny Vrandečić <vrande...@gmail.com> wrote: > > An example here: > > > > > https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki on Google App Engine

2014-04-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Oh, my use case is simple: I just want to run my own instance of MediaWiki for my personal wiki. I need to move it from my current provider. I thought App Engine would be kinda simple and cheap to run MediaWiki on, but it looks like it has a few rough edges, and I am wondering whether it is worth

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki on Google App Engine

2014-04-05 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Did anyone manage to get MediaWiki running on Google App Engine? I am a bit dense, it seems, and would appreciate a few pointers. Cheers, Denny ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Webfonts

2014-03-14 Thread Denny Vrandečić
It's really in the tradeoffs, as others have mentioned. It is obvious that we would love to get rid of tofu at all time. But what is the effect on readership? As far as I know, a higher delivery speed of a Website increases readership and the other way around. So if there was any way to estimate

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: afch licensing question

2013-09-26 Thread Denny Vrandečić
CC-BY-SA/GFDL is in the same spirit as GPL, which is an obviously acceptable license for WMF (since MediaWiki is written in it). Can you explain the need to relicense it under MIT? 2013/9/26 Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org Forwarding, with permission. For background the AFC Helper

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMFs stance on non-GPL code

2013-08-28 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Tim, thanks, I found this a very interesting aspect that I have not considered before. 2013/8/28 Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org On 27/08/13 03:12, C. Scott Ananian wrote: Stated more precisely: a non-GPL-compatible license for an extension means that the extension can never be

[Wikitech-l] SpamBlackList change needs review

2013-08-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi all, we really would like to deploy the URL datatype to Wikidata with the next deployment, i.e. next week. But it would make a lot of sense to have the SpamBlackList extension be aware of ContentHandler for that. There's already a +1 on the changeset, we would really appreciate someone

Re: [Wikitech-l] Updating Wikipedia based on Wikidata changes

2013-07-29 Thread Denny Vrandečić
No, neither table would have unqiueness constraints (besides the primary keys). 2013/7/29 Sean Pringle sprin...@wikimedia.org On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: * EntityUsage: one table per client. It has two columns, one

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

2013-07-23 Thread Denny Vrandečić
2013/7/23 MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com What we need is for you and Erik to recognize that you're wrong and to make this right. Is there anyone besides you and Erik who agree with the position you're taking here? They are not alone. I also agree with their position, and I sincerely hope we

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki extensions as core-like libraries: MediaWiki's fun new landmine for admins

2013-07-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
2013/7/19 Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr And installing yoursite would be something like: mkdir mysite cd mysite composer require mediawiki/core composer require wikibase/wikibase # which installs data-values/data-values ask/ask as well Just curious, why is composer require

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki extensions as core-like libraries: MediaWiki's fun new landmine for admins

2013-07-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Ah, OK, understood. Thanks. 2013/7/22 Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com Hey, wikibase/wikibase does not list mediawiki/core as a dependency :) Indeed. Right now this just allows you to install Wikibase into an existing MW install. Before we can go all the way, we first need to be

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki extensions as core-like libraries: MediaWiki's fun new landmine for admins

2013-07-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi, please, everyone calm down and honesty try harder to assume faith and respect the capabilities of each other. Respect includes to avoid terminology like to bitch, to sneak in, stupid when describing each other's actions. One good way is when you are angry about an email, step back, wait a

[Wikitech-l] Updating Wikipedia based on Wikidata changes

2013-07-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi, sorry for another long Email today. Currently, when you change a Wikidata item, its associated Wikipedia articles get told to update, too. So your change to the IMDB ID of a movie in Wikidata will be pushed to all language versions of that article on Wikipedia. Yay! There are two use cases

Re: [Wikitech-l] Updating Wikipedia based on Wikidata changes

2013-07-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Small correction. 2013/7/22 Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de * Subscriptions: one table on the client. It has two columns, one with the pageId and one with the siteId, indexed on both columns (and one column with a pk, I guess, for OSC). That's entityId - siteId, not pageId

Re: [Wikitech-l] Updating Wikipedia based on Wikidata changes

2013-07-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Another correction, same line. Gosh, it's hot here. Brain not working. Me off home. 2013/7/22 Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de 2013/7/22 Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de * Subscriptions: one table on the client. It has two columns, one with the pageId and one

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki extensions as core-like libraries: MediaWiki's fun new landmine for admins

2013-07-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
2013/7/22 Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr Given we migrated our community from subversion to git, I am confident enough that using composer will be very easy to the community. :D ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki extensions as core-like libraries: MediaWiki's fun new landmine for admins

2013-07-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
2013/7/22 Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com For pure PHP libraries, they could be distributed like pure PHP libraries usually are. They can be packaged for multiple distros and be available via apt/yum/composer (or pear). Having them as MediaWiki extensions is somewhat awkward. Yes, agree on

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki extensions as core-like libraries: MediaWiki's fun new landmine for admins

2013-07-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
2013/7/22 Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com Architectural integrity of code is a design-level issue. Continuous integration is a programming and quality assurance-level issue. They have nothing to do with each other, and you can maintain architectural integrity just fine without having to

[Wikitech-l] Public hangout on Travis CI

2013-06-19 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Tomorrow at 2pm Berlin time, the Wikidata team will host a public hangout on Travis. This is mostly meant to inform ourselves, but it might be a good resource for others as well. We might be late, as this is the first time we are doing such a thing, so bring a bit patience. We will try to record

Re: [Wikitech-l] [GSoC 2013] Wikidata Entity Suggester prototype

2013-05-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Awesome, that looks already pretty promising! I am not completely sure I understand a few things: 1074167410 106 107215627 156 what do the two properties without a value mean here? I would have expected: 1074167410 107215627 and now ask for suggested values for 31, or for

[Wikitech-l] Code review of the Wikidata code

2013-05-17 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hey, in order to sanity check the code we have written in the Wikidata project, we have asked an external company to review our code and discuss it with the team. The effort was very instructional for us. We want to share the results with you. The report looks dauntingly big, but this is mostly

Re: [Wikitech-l] category intersection conversations

2013-05-14 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I agree with most of the use cases, and I think they will possible with Wikidata. My suggestion would be to wait for this year, and then see which of the use cases are still open: I think that by the end of the year we should have made all of them possible (besides the Searches might be more than

Re: [Wikitech-l] category intersection conversations

2013-05-14 Thread Denny Vrandečić
2013/5/9 Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com From what I hear wikidata phase 3 is going to basically be support for inline queries. Details are vauge but if they support the typical types of queries you associate with semantic networks - there is category intersection right there. Right. If

Re: [Wikitech-l] [GSoC 2013] Wikidata Entity Suggester prototype

2013-05-13 Thread Denny Vrandečić
That's awesome! Two things: * how set are you on a Java-based solution? We would prefer PHP in order to make it more likely to be deployed. * could you provide a link to a running demo? Cheers, Denny 2013/5/13 Nilesh Chakraborty nil...@nileshc.com Hi everyone, I'm working on a prototype

[Wikitech-l] Usage of Wikidata: the brilliance of Wikipedians

2013-04-25 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I am completely amazed by a particularly brilliant way that Wikipedia uses Wikidata. Instead of simply displaying the data from Wikidata and removing the local data, a template and workflow is proposed, which... * grabs the relevant data from Wikidata * compares it with the data given locally in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Support for multiple content languages in MW core

2013-04-24 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Just to add, ContentHandler is deployed on all Wikimedia projects. 2013/4/24 Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com I think ContentHandler already theoretically has the ability to store per-page language info, it's just not being used. (And of course it'd have to be actually deployed

Re: [Wikitech-l] Data-URI and WebP for thumbnails, a cute experiment

2013-04-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
That looks like a cool idea. I am trying to experiment it on a few pages, and it seems to considerably reduce the number of web requests (for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_van_Gogh it goes from 120 to under 40 requests). But the pages get quite bigger, obviously. Also, it introduces a

Re: [Wikitech-l] [GSoc2013] Interested in developing Entity Suggester

2013-04-22 Thread Denny Vrandečić
You can get the data from here: http://dumps.wikimedia.org/wikidatawiki/20130417/ All items with all properties and their values are inside the dump. The questions would be, based on this data, could we make suggestions for: * when I create a new statement, suggest a property. then suggest a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ideating on GSoC project : Mobilize Wikidata

2013-04-17 Thread Denny Vrandečić
the exact technology to use, i.e. whether it would use the MobileFrontend or not, etc. We would help with setting it up on labs. Cheers, Denny On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 04/09/2013 02:39 AM, Denny Vrandečić wrote: I would hope It would also

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pushing Technical changes to Wikimedia projects

2013-04-15 Thread Denny Vrandečić
One problem is that the necessity to link to a working test environment does not allow to develop ideas with the community before they are implemented. 2013/4/9 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il 2013/4/9 Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com: One system that I find a lot of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pushing Technical changes to Wikimedia projects

2013-04-15 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Those are very good points, both of them. Thanks. 2013/4/9 Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org On 04/09/2013 12:18 PM, Denny Vrandečić wrote: I thought that in order to discuss these design decisions with the community before hand, telling them on their respective village pump

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deployment highlights - week of April 8th

2013-04-10 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Thank you, also for the explanation. I am glad we could defuse this. On Apr 10, 2013 7:07 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 April 2013 12:15, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: Risker, I find myself unconvinced by your argumentation as I perceive

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deployment highlights - week of April 8th

2013-04-10 Thread Denny Vrandečić
2013/4/10 Risker risker...@gmail.com On 9 April 2013 12:15, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: Risker, I find myself unconvinced by your argumentation as I perceive it as inconsistent. On the one hand, you suggest that before we enable the option to access data

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ideating on GSOC project : Mobilize Wikidata

2013-04-09 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I would hope that the widgets we have developed for the Wikidata desktop UI - especially the Entity Selector widget - would be reusable on mobile. It would also be extremely good to look in what the mobile team is doing for Wikipedia. Since both is MediaWiki in the backend anyway, I would assume

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deployment highlights - week of April 8th

2013-04-09 Thread Denny Vrandečić
minor comments inline in your mail below. 2013/4/8 Risker risker...@gmail.com On 6 April 2013 17:27, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: Or, put differently, the Wikidata proposal has been published nearly two years ago. We have communicated on all channels for more than

[Wikitech-l] Pushing Technical changes to Wikimedia projects

2013-04-09 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Technical changes on the Wikimedia projects can be hairy. We are currently having a discussion about the Wikidata deployment to the Wikipedias, and there have been many examples in the past of deployments that raised discussions. One of my statements in this discussion is that the a priori

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deployment highlights - week of April 8th

2013-04-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I fully agree with Robert and Phoebe in this matter. Wikidata is an option. Requiring first to come up with rules on how to use Wikidata before it is switched on simply won't work, because there is not sufficient interest and experience for this discussion. Or, put differently, the Wikidata

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata queries

2013-04-03 Thread Denny Vrandečić
end well. I am not even sure it is much more complicated. But I am very worried it is too different. Cheers, Denny Petr Onderka [[en:User:Svick]] 2013/3/28 Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de: We have a first write up of how we plan to support queries in Wikidata. Comments

[Wikitech-l] Wikidata queries

2013-03-28 Thread Denny Vrandečić
We have a first write up of how we plan to support queries in Wikidata. Comments on our errors and requests for clarifications are more than welcome. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Queries Cheers, Denny P.S.: unfortunately, no easter eggs inside. -- Project director

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pronunciation recording tool wanted

2013-03-27 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I would strongly support to not lend support to the believe that everything under the sun is copyrightable. We should, in my opinion, take the position that trivial things like these are not copyrightable and should put a CC0 on it. We should not set an example and establish a practice that single

[Wikitech-l] EasyRDF light

2013-03-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hey, as you remembered, we were asking about EasyRDF in order to use it in Wikidata. We have now cut off the pieces that we do not need, in order to simplify the review. Most of the interesting parts of EasyRDF regarding security issues -- parsing, serving, etc. -- has been removed. Our code is

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: image information API

2013-03-11 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I certainly don't want to cookie-lick this usecase for Wikidata / Wikibase, but I think that using the Wikibase extension for this might be easier than it looks. The one major point would be a bit of coding to allow claims for the media namespace. But indeed, right now we do not have the bandwidth

[Wikitech-l] Indexing structures for Wikidata

2013-03-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
As you probably know, the search in Wikidata sucks big time. Until we have created a proper Solr-based search and deployed on that infrastructure, we would like to implement and set up a reasonable stopgap solution. The simplest and most obvious signal for sorting the items would be to 1) make a

[Wikitech-l] EasyRDF dependency

2013-02-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
After evaluating different options, we want to use for generating Wikidata's RDF export the EasyRDF library: http://www.easyrdf.org/ We only need a part of it -- whatever deals with serializers. We do not need parsers, anything to do with SPARQL, etc. In order to minimize reviewing and potential

Re: [Wikitech-l] Using wiki pages as databases

2013-02-19 Thread Denny Vrandečić
2013/2/19 Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org On 19/02/13 21:11, MZMcBride wrote: Has any thought been given to what to do about this? Will it require manually paginating the data over collections of wiki pages? Will this be something to use Wikidata for? Ultimately, I would like it to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lua rollout to en.wikipedia.org and a few others

2013-02-18 Thread Denny Vrandečić
For later. As discussed before, access via HTTP is probably hardly an option for the Wikimedia wikis (and they are our priority), but for other wikis that will be crucial. Cheers, Denny 2013/2/18 Yuri Astrakhan yuriastrak...@gmail.com How useful would it be for Lua to access to the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extending Scribunto with new Lua functions

2013-02-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
There will be (actually, there is already) a web API offering the kind of data required, and for client wikis not running on WMF infrastructure this will eventually be the way to access the data. For WMF clients, like the Wikipedias, our decision was not to use HTTP web requests, but to

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Parsoid roadmap

2013-01-30 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Thank you for the Roadmap, Gabriel! It is some exciting and interesting stuff inside. I am really happy that the roadmap would allow us this year to highly optimize Wikidata-related changes on the Wikipedias, i.e. we would not need to reparse the whole page when some data in Wikidata changes, and

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikidata-l] getting some stats for the Hungarian Wikipedia

2013-01-28 Thread Denny Vrandečić
(not sure if this is the right list) There was the question raised about adding Wikidata pagecount data to the dumps. As far as I can tell Wikivoyage is already inside the data (although not described on the description page), but I could not find Wikidata (maybe I am just missing the right

[Wikitech-l] Jenkins doing code-review?

2013-01-09 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I am mildly surprised by Jenkins giving a +1 Code Review (not Verification) here. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/33505/ Just wondering if there is maybe a setup issue. Cheers, Denny -- Project director Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49-30-219

Re: [Wikitech-l] Jenkins doing code-review?

2013-01-09 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Ah, thanks, that explains it. 2013/1/9 Brad Jorsch bjor...@wikimedia.org 2013/1/9 Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de: I am mildly surprised by Jenkins giving a +1 Code Review (not Verification) here. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/33505/ Just wondering

Re: [Wikitech-l] jenkins: unit test whitelist

2012-12-19 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Just curious -- I probably missed it in a previous mail -- why are the tests switched off? To preserve processing power? To speed up tests for the whitelisted? Security concerns when running tests with arbitrary code? Other? Cheers, Denny 2012/12/19 Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr Hello,

Re: [Wikitech-l] (Roughly) 2 week delay for MediaWiki 1.21wmf7

2012-12-19 Thread Denny Vrandečić
This looks very well for us. Just one thing: Phase 4 of 1.21wmf7 should probably be Monday, January 14, not January 11. Cheers, Denny 2012/12/17 Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org Hi everyone, Because a number of people are planning to take time off for the holidays, I'd like to postpone the

[Wikitech-l] Bugzilla attachment: too many redirects

2012-12-13 Thread Denny Vrandečić
I get a Too many redirects error when trying to open this attachement https://bug-attachment.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=11489 from this bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42955 Anyone an idea? Cheers, Denny P.S.: I just saw that Daniel poste da bug on this

[Wikitech-l] Wikidata review status

2012-11-09 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi all, we have here a number of bugfixes and testfixes and other stuff where some reviewing input would be very appreciated. == Bugfixes == * There was some vanishing content https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41352 , and a temporary fix for it. Here is a proper fix for the problem,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Data flow from Wikidata to the Wikipedias

2012-11-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
that this is the preferred solution and that this is better than the solution we suggested. Anyone having any comments, questions, or insights? Cheers, Denny 2012/11/5 Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org: On 02/11/12 22:35, Denny Vrandečić wrote: * For re-rendering the page, the wiki needs access

[Wikitech-l] ULS and caching

2012-11-06 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi all, Wikidata is planned as a multilingual resource, and we are using ULS for switching languages. ULS is pretty cool, if you have not tried it out yet, you definitively should. ULS works great if you are a logged in user. ULS on Wikidata does not work so well right now if you are not logged

[Wikitech-l] Data flow from Wikidata to the Wikipedias

2012-11-02 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi all, Wikidata aims to centralize structured datas from the Wikipedias in one central wiki, starting with the language links. The main technical challenge that we will face is to implement the data flow on the WMF infrastructure efficiently. We invite peer-review on our design. I am trying to

Re: [Wikitech-l] A bot to create articles about species

2012-10-18 Thread Denny Vrandečić
For now, we have no plans for Wikidata to create articles. This would, in my opinion, meddle too much with the autonomy of the Wikipedia language projects. What will be possible is to facilitate the creation of such bots, as some data that might be used for the article might be taken from and

[Wikitech-l] Wikidata review status

2012-10-18 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Dear all, let me say it like this: WOH!!! All of our patchsets have been merged into core. You are awesome! Thank you so much! We won't leave you without new work, though. Three points: First, the merge of the ContentHandler branch is, now that it is being deployed, revealing issues in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's talk about Solr

2012-10-18 Thread Denny Vrandečić
That is great to hear. Thanks for tying us together, Asher. For Wikidata, we have not uploaded our Solr extension yet (mostly because we are waiting for the repository to be set up), but we will then upload it soon once it is there. I would be especially interested in sharing schema and config

[Wikitech-l] Wikidata review mail

2012-10-12 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi all, here is our weekly report on changesets to core relevant for Wikidata development. * Great news! The Wikidata branch got merged, possibly the biggest single changeset to MediaWiki. Thanks to everyone for their input, I am afraid to try to list them all because I would fail. Special

[Wikitech-l] Wikidata review status

2012-10-05 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi all, here's a status update of the reviews on the Wikidata related changes to core: * ContentHandler: a lot has happened here in the last few days. We created a faux commit that squashed the changes in order to gather comments, and have responded to most of them, implementing the suggested

Re: [Wikitech-l] Content handler feature merge (Wikidata branch) scheduled early next week

2012-09-29 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi, I have tried to create one changeset with the whole content handler for your convenience: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/25736/ Note that is based on 7ccc77a and needs to get rebased before merge, but the major parts should be there. Since I am not a Git expert, I may have mad it all

[Wikitech-l] Wikidata review status

2012-09-28 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi all, here's our weekly mail on core related stuff for Wikidata. Thanks to everyone giving feedback and reviews, most notably Chris, Chad, Tim, Matmarex, DJ, and Krinkle! * the ContentHandler branch is being reviewed to land in Core next week, as Rob said. There is a separate thread on that.

Re: [Wikitech-l] New extension: Diff

2012-09-26 Thread Denny Vrandečić
2012/9/26 Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org: On 26/09/12 03:54, Tyler Romeo wrote: This looks pretty interesting. Is there a reason we don't just put this in the core? It has about 50 lines of useful code wrapped in 1600 lines of abstraction. I don't think it is the sort of style we want

Re: [Wikitech-l] #switch limits

2012-09-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
2012/9/21 Strainu strain...@gmail.com: Well, you said something about Wikidata. But even if the client Wiki would not need to load the full census, can it be avoided on Wikidata? Talking about the template that Tim listed:

Re: [Wikitech-l] #switch limits

2012-09-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
#Technical_requirements_and_rationales_3). Cheers, Denny 2012/9/21 Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de: 2012/9/21 Strainu strain...@gmail.com: Well, you said something about Wikidata. But even if the client Wiki would not need to load the full census, can it be avoided on Wikidata? Talking about the template

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata blockers

2012-09-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
currently a sub-part of the sites management topic. I would suggest that this gets started in its own RFC, what do you think? Cheers, Denny 2012/9/21 Daniel Friesen dan...@nadir-seen-fire.com: On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 05:54:02 -0700, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: 2012/9/20

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata blockers

2012-09-20 Thread Denny Vrandečić
: On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:53:54 -0700, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hi all, here's our weekly list of Wikidata review items. Due to the hands-on meeting last week we refrained from sending it earlier. Now that most should be back home, I wanted to give an overview

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