If it's anything like Part-15 vs. Part-90 for the XR3 and 3650, then there's
actually LESS hoops to go through to use it vs. Part-15.
I don't know the details of each of those bands, but it sounds like any
statement saying you can't use homebrew is FUD. The FCC permits use of the
XR3 in 3650,
This should make for a good read, or a good laugh.
This week, my installer has been out of town. However, business still goes on.
I decided to do some of the installs while he is away. Nothing was different
about these installs from the hundreds of installs that I've done in the past.
The
You might look into the Radwin RW-2000 ... speeds and price may be in the range
... 5.x GHz
- Original Message -
From: Travis Johnson
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Short 100Meg full duplex hop needed
The Mikrotik
I'd use redline an80
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Adam Greene maill...@webjogger.net wrote:
You might look into the Radwin RW-2000 ... speeds and price may be in the
range ... 5.x GHz
- Original Message -
From: Travis Johnson
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Thursday, March 05,
AN80 would peak at about 70 mbps hdx..?? Have you seen more out of it?
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of John
I thought that one wouldn't have enough horse power to push the 200 to 300
megs aggregate that we expect to see.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:46 PM
Subject: Re:
Got it.
Do you know where to go after those grants that the county can get?
thanks,
marlon
- Original Message -
From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 and 4.9
I can only quote
Depends on what agency in the county want the
grants, and what state.
There is SCADS of money for Fire Departments and
4.9 gear.
Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
- Original Message -
From: Marlon K.
It will only do 50 FDX, not 100 FDX.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Adam Greene maill...@webjogger.net
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 8:35 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject:
I have a local non-profit that has a PILE of 1710 and 1750 routers
that they want to sell. A couple of 3600 series routers, and
E to M cards.
Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
Dear Tom
I have just joined the legislative list so apologies if this has already
been sent out but would you please post the existing position paper WISPA
already sent to the legislators?
Thank you.
~
Denise Hamilton
Rapid Systems
813-232-4887 x 101
Fax 813-236-0014
Yes, that's the plan. More of a mesh backhaul vs. hub and spoke or ring.
We want a web with multiple paths from one side of the project to the other.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 04,
for n male to n male, we build our own.
Mark Nash wrote:
We have had about 6 of these fail in the last few months, whereas prior to
that we don't recall a problem. They are 2-ft NM-NM LMR195 jumpers from
Hyperlink.
Anyone else have a problem?
Any recommendations on best source
I was trying to drill a hole into a blank wall plate. All of the sudden,
it shattered into about 10 pieces.
That happens a lot with a typical bakerlite type wall plate.
Next time you buy blank plates, try to find the lexan flexible ones.
Everyone makes them, they are rubber like and when you
I get mine from here - my favorite is their ultraflex RG8 type cable
because it doesn't put as much pressure on the connectors and is easy to
work with like smaller diameter cables from the past. Cost a couple
dollars more but is worth it.
www.rfdistributor.com
They also carry lots of
Enjoyed the story Joe. Definitely made me laugh. Being 44 now, I get it
to. Not so long ago I'd think nothing of jumping off a 1 story roof. Now
I give a second thought to jumping down 3 stairs... You know age is
catching up when you have your chiropractor in your mobile phone
favorites list!
I'm just glad that only your foot went through the ceiling!
As an FYI, if we do any damage to a house we send out the repair people.
The customer still gets billed for our install, but we take care of fixing
the damage that was done. My best one like this was when I removed a sat.
dish and
It doesn't. You would use the Rebel in those locations. The R1 is for the
lower traffic sites.
Jeff
ImageStream
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:11 AM
To: WISPA
RG8 is an inferior cable to LMR400. RG8 has much less shielding and more
loss than LMR400. I would never recommend RG8 in place of LMR400.
I've always preferred making my own LMR terminations. We use the Times
Clamp/Solder type for LMR400 and Clamp/Spring type for LMR600 and
larger.
We were
Sorryjust noticed the original post was in regards to LMR195 and not
LMR400. RG8 may very well be a better cable than LMR195...never used it.
My guess is the LMR195 would still offer better shielding than RG8, but
possibly more loss.
Best,
Brad
-Original Message-
From:
What wrong with you kids? I am 75 and still doing installs. Just have to be
careful. Same thing when you 20.
NGL
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From: Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 8:12 AM
To: joe.mil...@dslbyair.com; WISPA General List
Us kids are sore from falling,...lol
--- On Thu, 3/5/09, NGL n...@ngl.net wrote:
From: NGL n...@ngl.net
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself, they are
for the young
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 10:48 AM
What wrong
You must be grandfathered from that law of gravity thing they just came
up with!... must not affect you! :)
har har
ryan
NGL wrote:
What wrong with you kids? I am 75 and still doing installs. Just have to be
careful. Same thing when you 20.
NGL
Don't they still make plates with just a 1/4 hole in it. No need to drill.
George Rogato wrote:
I was trying to drill a hole into a blank wall plate. All of the sudden,
it shattered into about 10 pieces.
That happens a lot with a typical bakerlite type wall plate.
Next time you buy blank
I can identify with both of you. I do it all but it becomes overwhelming at
times!
-RickG
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:14 AM, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
Forbes, I'm not far away from you, and if you ever need network type help,
feel free to holler.
I love the technical stuff. Don't much
And they are useless when the water tank is painted. The extra paint
thickness causes the dimensions to change and the brake no longer slides
on the pipe.
-RickG
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote:
Mark,
I am a little late on this reply, got backed up on
Took tommy with me to finish up harrisonmn fisheries.
Sent from my Windows MobileĀ® phone.
-Original Message-
From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:08
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs
Ryan,
The new RAD RW2000 will do that... hit me offlist for a quote
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Ryan Ghering
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:39 PM
To: WISPA
The RadWin radio will do it in one 20MHz channel (one V-pol and one H-pol)..
Plus it's a full solution. no build it yourself.
But you can't beat the price of Mikrotik
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Very true...
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 11:05 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 and 4.9
Yes, but
The only thing we use to seal these connectors is fusion tape from GB. I
can get it from the local hardware store. I suspect that this is a problem.
How is everyone sealing connectors on towers? This one particular site is
at 3100ft so it gets wind and cold. Snow ice on it for a few 2-week
Sure, Mikrotik for under $1,000. How much more does a pre-built solution
have to cost anyways?
-RickG
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:50 PM, 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net wrote:
The RadWin radio will do it in one 20MHz channel (one V-pol and one
H-pol)..
Plus it's a full solution. no build it
I'd have to do research... I've never gone looking for them before.
Many guys within Motorola can help though... hit me offlist and I can
provide some contacts
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Sorry, damn windows mobile.
Sent from my Windows MobileĀ® phone.
-Original Message-
From: Brent A Havens bhav...@marktwain.coop
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:47
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself, they are for
Coaxseal and good electrical tape. LOL, I had one tower where the pigeons
would peck at the connectors, so I added metal foil tape over the
connection. That took care of that!
-RickG
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote:
The only thing we use to seal these
Is the electrical tape just to hold the coax-seal in place?
Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
78 Centennial Loop
Suite E
Eugene, OR 97401
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
http://www.unwiredwest.com
- Original Message -
From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent:
It was an existing plate on the wall and I didn't have any on my truck at the
time. I have them now.
--- On Thu, 3/5/09, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote:
From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself, they are
for
My understanding is the Vinyl tape is more solar resistant than the
black rubber...
ryan
Mark Nash wrote:
Is the electrical tape just to hold the coax-seal in place?
Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
78 Centennial Loop
Suite E
Eugene, OR 97401
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
I use two layers of tape with the coaxseal in between. This protects the
connectors and allows clean removal of the coaxseal. In addition, the tape
seems to hold up better to the weather than the coaxseal.
To be honest, I'd rather get rid of weather proofing altogether and just POE
everywhere.
I would definitely seal a Ubiquiti Bullet if I put one outside, regardless of
they their marketing says. Too many times, I have seen marketing departments
show radios on a mast with blue indoor cat5 coming out, shiny unsealed coax
connections, 80f, dry and sunny, etc...
They have good
Thanks.
Sounds like coax-seal electrical tape is a good solution.
Anyone have other solutions? We used to use butyl but that stuff's nasty.
We're going to this tower tomorrow because it looks like that's the only
break in the weather. I just ordered a few boxes of coax-seal for overnight
Try the new silicone tape from Times Microwave. Works real nice and comes right
off with a razor knife
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-Original Message-
From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:23:14
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re:
We used to use stuff that looks very similar to that (though definitely not
exactly the same) when we used Tranzeo stuff - did not work well, I give it
a D on weather proofing but an A on applying/removing.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH
Won't it only do 50 meg FDX?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:49 AM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA]
Right... but the customer changed the specification to 50Mb FDX on him... so
now it works :-)
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, March 05,
oh, okay, then yes, it'll work. ;-)
Anything faster than this radio and your best bet is a Trango or Dragonwave
licensed product, correct? (I don't care about which is better, Trango or
DragonWave.)
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Yes... any licensed solution is the next step (well the PtP 500 Full would
be cheaper than the licensed stuff too... and it is a much better radio from
an RF standpoint I think)
A PtP 600 will do it... but it costs more than the
Dragonwave/Trango/Cablefree/Nera links out there.
Daniel White
3-dB
Anyone in the Memphis area?? Had someone call us today about a property in
Memphis that already has wireless gear(Meru) in and is wanting someone local
to manage/maintain it for them. Hit me off list if interested.
http://www.aerowire.net
Alan Long
Director of Network Operations
A good final coating over the tape (be it pure rubber or vinyl) is
3M's Scotchkote
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3MElectrical/Home/ProductsServices/Products/?PC_7_RJH9U5230GE3E02LECIE20OES1_nid=6Q3BGBPJ7CbeFR7R0D83TCgl
We used that on seagoing ships for outdoor connections that
That's good toknow. I do not use it anyways. We do not have the slide for
it, but the water guys do. I use two or three lanyards and the ladder rungs
to climb them. Its much slower climb, but I get there eventually.
Scottie
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
First coat. Electrical tape (sticky side out) easiest to remove
2nd
http://www.shop3m.com/80050049008.html?WT.mc_ev=clickthroughWT.mc_id=shop3m-AtoZ-Scotch-Vinyl-Mastic
3m mastic. It's nice and nasty but it's all I've used for 5 yrs. Only
a couple leaks. (probably user error)
3rd. Another
I wear that hat. "Jack of all trades, master of none"
Today, I drove by rental house down the road and saw dish tv being
installed. I turned around to go tell the new renter I had wireless
internet in the area. (I always find sat tv subs are likely to want
internet) So, I go tell him and he
Sticky side and it will risk sliding especially when you weather seal a
connector next to a case side.
/Eje
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
-Original Message-
From: Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:18:11
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
I tried to look it up but I cannot figure it out. Whats an E to M card?
Blake Bowers wrote:
I have a local non-profit that has a PILE of 1710 and 1750 routers
that they want to sell. A couple of 3600 series routers, and
E to M cards.
Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we
One of my phone techs thought that he could go out and do local service
calls when the phones weren't busy. This guy is pretty big - probably
about 350 or so at the time and not the most nimble person in the world.
He stopped by the customer's house and went to look at his router, which
was
Kinda like laughing in a limo in Chicago?
;-)
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-Original Message-
From: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:52:25
To: joe.mil...@dslbyair.com; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to
An EM circuit is a transmit and receive audio pair ( ear and mouth to the old
bell guys). Usually a dedicated circuit between 2 points. Put audio into the tx
pair and it comes out the receive pair on the other end
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-Original Message-
From: Matt
That's EM, it's used to connect to analog voice stuff, in place of FXS
or FXO cards.
John
Matt Jenkins wrote:
I tried to look it up but I cannot figure it out. Whats an E to M card?
Blake Bowers wrote:
I have a local non-profit that has a PILE of 1710 and 1750 routers
that they want to
Gives a new meaning to truck roll!!! -RickG
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.comwrote:
One of my phone techs thought that he could go out and do local service
calls when the phones weren't busy. This guy is pretty big - probably
about 350 or so at the time
Brian
It's bits for transfer and bytes for file sizes.
Lots of people get that mixed up.
Hope that helps
George
Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
I wear that hat. Jack of all trades, master of none
Today, I drove by rental house down the road and saw dish tv being
installed. I turned around to
On Mar 3, 2009, at 9:46 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
Hiya Tom,
Yeah I know where we sent it. As far as I'm concerned we speak for
all
WISPs. If they want to help control what is said they can join.
But we're
here if they want to provide input
I think that good ideas are good
D. Ryan Spott wrote:
My understanding is the Vinyl tape is more solar resistant than the
black rubber...
ryan
Not sure about this.
I use rubber and sometimes we put vinyl tape as a 2nd layer.
But I have never seen the rubber tape fail, except, the cheap junk you
get in a true value
It was my error, em, not e to m. Ear to Mouth. Basically just
makes an analog pipe.
Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
- Original Message -
From: Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net
To: WISPA
Dun dun dun
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: lakel...@gbcx.net
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 8:12 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing
I had a partner years ago was a computer guy.
We opened a new store in another city and he wanted to have a hole cut
in the wall for a big window type deal between the retail end and the
tech desk.
I told him to wait till I cam up to do some other work.
Instead he took one of my small trim
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