[WISPA] Fwd: solar site

2009-08-27 Thread os10rules
Ooops. That should read you're probably using batteries that aren't made to deep cycle often Greg Begin forwarded message: From: os10ru...@gmail.com Date: August 27, 2009 12:51:32 AM GMT-04:30 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site Don't forget that

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread os10rules
I'd want to see that graph dropping off sooner, perhaps finishing the charging by about 1pm. Is your charge controller a 3 stage charger (bulk, absorb, float) or some approximation? It looks like your batteries might just be getting full when the sun is going down. Was that a clear sky

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread os10rules
Exactly. But I think he meant that in a 33 day period he only needed 24 hours of sun which comes out to be less than an hour a day. I think his math is flawed (perhaps calculating watts instead of watt hours) but I think that's what he meant. Getting 24 hours of sun in a 33 day period is

[WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Lists
This really ticks me off: Wireless broadband Internet access services offered over fixed networks allow consumers to access the Internet from a fixed point while stationary and often require a direct line-of-sight between the wireless transmitter and receiver. These services have been

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
The way I understood it was if out of 799.2 hour span (33.3 days * 24 hours/day) there was 24 hours of sunlight. Meaning for every ~800 hours at least 24 of them the sun was in the air hitting the solar panel. The other 776 was darkness. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Chuck, Current and average are int he 100s yet max is 5.7? When in the world could the amps be 127 or 929?! Secondly, how are the amps negative? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Chuck Hogg
When it is in the negative, we are not generating enough solar power to power the equipment. I think it is a -.97844, and an average of -.15677. Like I said, at that site where it is negative we have to go and charge the batteries with a generator every so often. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby

[WISPA] WaveRider 3000 CCU

2009-08-27 Thread Dennis Burgess
I have a customer with one of these and they just want the RouterOS box in front of it to pass DHCP out. Simple BRIDGE as easy as pie, anyone have any docs, suggestions on how to make this thing work? --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+,

Re: [WISPA] a better bit-torrent?

2009-08-27 Thread David E. Smith
jp wrote: About time. torrent has to be about the most inefficient way to share data; blindly transferring stuff from the ends of the Internet instead of from localized or centralized sources which are always faster and cheaper per meg. To the end-user, bandwidth is bandwidth, doesn't

Re: [WISPA] WaveRider 3000 CCU

2009-08-27 Thread David E. Smith
Dennis Burgess wrote: I have a customer with one of these and they just want the RouterOS box in front of it to pass DHCP out. Simple BRIDGE as easy as pie, anyone have any docs, suggestions on how to make this thing work? I think you're looking for the protocol command. Probably protocol

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed

2009-08-27 Thread 3-dB Networks
Canopy :-D Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joe Miller Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed

[WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Michael Baird
As we get into more and more installs, we are discovering installations where we just need a little more height, 5-10 ft. or so. Currently the majority of our installs are roof mount via a dish type screw in mount, or antenna tower mount. I'm looking for suggestions on additional mounting

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Paul Rice
Back when I was doing the WISP thing, I used rohn tripods, and galvanized conduit. Anything poles over 10 feet or with high winds, I used some guy wires. That worked really well. -- From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com Sent: Thursday, August 27,

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed

2009-08-27 Thread Kevin Suitor
Redline AN-80i -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:42 AM To: 'Joe Miller'; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed Canopy :-D Daniel White 3-dB

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Jason Hensley
Hmm, so I guess my 10Mbps down and 8mbps up wireless links (yes, to customers) don't count My guess, though, is that they're pulling this data from the 477 and making assumptions based on that. Most of our customers are 1.5Mbps or less customers so looking at the raw 477 data then yes, it

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed

2009-08-27 Thread dcosby
Isn't there a webinar that will help this guy? ;) -Original Message- From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net Subj: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed Date: Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:42 am Size: 2K To: 'Joe Miller' joe.mil...@dslbyair.com; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
With the minimal wind load of Canopy I would say you'd be all right on the roof but I've only done this on the ground. Take a smaller diameter pipe, drill two perpendicular holes through each (use a hose clamp to hold it in place) and then bolt it tight. That gives you a free 8 foot as long as

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Wait what application are we even trying to solve... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Aug 27,

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Jason Hensley
Just a thought on that. I don't know where else they would be getting that data from unless they are just pulling it out of the air. With what I've got in the air right now I could do up to 15meg down. With the newer gear coming out we'll be able to do even more than that. Kinda irks me I

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Martha Huizenga
They are also, not saying we can't deliver more than 1 Mbps, just that the speed is around 1 Mbps. How many WISPs provide residential service at speeds greater than 1 Mb? Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Robert West
My competitor here uses 1.25 EMT conduit from Home Depot, 13 bucks for a 10' section. He takes them to the local muffler shop and has them bend them with a block U shape so that he can mount them to the side of the house under the peak and the bend allows him to swing the mount to the eave as

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Jason Hensley
I do - up to 10meg for residential where I got 5Ghz LOS. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Martha Huizenga Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:27 AM To: nsto...@wisperisp.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Robert West
Maybe 5 years ago. Not now. How old is this info they are getting Not a surprise though. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:01 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Paul Rice
YMMV, but I've had them out in high winds in excess of 40 miles an hour with 2 parbolics on 1 10 foot section of 2 inch EMT. But it is soft, so you might want to get heavier pipe for piece of mind -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread St. Louis Broadband
Bingo! When I asked them about this at the NTIA Memphis meeting, they acknowledged that this is old data. Shouldn't WISPA get involved here? I have written my response to them. Victoria -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Travis Johnson
Ya... me too... I offer "up to 100Mbps download by 1500Mbps upload". :) Gotta love "up to" services. Next time you are in Walmart buying milk, see if you can buy "up to" a gallon. ;) Travis Microserv Jason Hensley wrote: I do - up to 10meg for residential where I got 5Ghz LOS.

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Robert, Your competitor's U shaped EMT - does it look like my painting? http://i27.tinypic.com/30woz1k.jpg Note - IANAA (I am not an artist) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Those customers on 900 are typically 1mbps or less. If they're out in the middle of nowhere, what's better - dial-up out that way or that meesly 1 mbps? I really wish we had a new term for broadband or high speed Internet access. Think about it - DSL, cable, WISPs, Satellite, HSPA/etc aircards.

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Mike Hammett
I think that's why they developed the sun hour maps I referenced earlier. They just tell you what to expect in your area for sun hours a day. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Christopher Erickson

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Robert West
The 2 would be good for that, it's a big solid item. But the setup this guy uses is 1.25 with a 1 inside of it going up 8 feet. A 2 up that high would be strong enough I suspect but a 1 would give out quickly I bet. Would work well with a NS or something small, like a yagi or a small grid.

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Jason Hensley
Hehe - no, I don't advertise it like that. They get the 10Mbps. What I meant by up to is that I have plans ranging from 768k to 10Mbps. My 10meg customers average 9-10 meg down and 8 or so up. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Robert West
So we should provide old internet. Internet Classic. Sounds good. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:36 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Mike
'splain please! How is that configured? Thanks. At 10:50 AM 8/27/2009, you wrote: ... We now mount 2 pieces of 1-5/8 Unistrut with 1/4 lags and clamp the pipe to it. WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Kevin Suitor
Wireless DSL is the term we use in our sessions around the world -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Robert West
No, it's like this crude ASCII rendering. He puts a U clamp on the bottom and on the eave. I I I I I I I --I I I I --- I I I I -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed

2009-08-27 Thread Joe Miller
I solved my problem with the 5.3Ghz PTMP - Original Message From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:14:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed Wait what application are we even trying to

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Mike Hammett
I wouldn't get too worked up. Look at what they say the other speeds are. They're closer on our speeds than they are on cable or DSL. If you inspire them too much, they'll up the speeds for cable and DSL as well, making us look worse. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
I think the bottom horizontal line is the base of the standard powmount - but the top horizontal line is where I am confused. You said the muffler shop bends it, does it make a shift like a traditional muffler? 90 turn? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite

Re: [WISPA] NTIA Announces 2,200 Applications for BIP/BTOP

2009-08-27 Thread RickG
It reminds me of the farm I was at the other day at dinner time. The pigs were all fighting for food at the trough. They really go at it! -RickG On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:39 AM, St. Louis Broadbandli...@stlbroadband.com wrote: NTIA Announces 2,200 Applications for BIP/BTOP for a total of $27.6

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread St. Louis Broadband
Mike, I am sorry, but that is silly. Victoria -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
I think Google should invent a website speed test app like they did for torrents - http://www.measurementlab.net/ What do people care most about online? The web (AKA the internet). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
What was the problem? I don't believe it was ever said. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Aug 27,

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Jack Unger
Hi Victoria, The FCC Workship "1 Mbps" statement is very, very generalized. It's nothing to get upset about. If we want the FCC to update their knowledge about WISPs then we need to educate the FCC. We DO educate them with every FCC filing and presentation that we make. In the last year,

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Terry Hickey
Good information http://www.solar4power.com/solar-power-sizing.html - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I think that's why they developed

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread RickG
I sent them a comment and asked them to correct it. -RickG On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Listsli...@stlbroadband.com wrote: This really ticks me off: Wireless broadband Internet access services offered over fixed networks allow consumers to access the Internet from a fixed point while

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Mike Hammett
Cable around here is 50 megs and they have it labeled as 1.5. DSL around here is 15 megs and they have it labeled 1 meg. We're labeled 1 meg, but how many of us deliver more than 5? 3? Cable would increase 33x, DSL 15x, and wireless... 5x? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Mike Hammett
PC Magazine has one. I have asked them to make a troubleshooting version for ISPs to use in improving their network, but no response. The author can't because PC Mag owns it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Robert West
[IMG]http://i28.tinypic.com/fnsxl.jpg[/IMG] Another crude rendering. The bottom is where he mounts the pipe to the side of the house. Then it goes up and the bend allows it to go out and up over the eave and then back into over the roof. If the bend is too far out, they swing the assembly in

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Randy Cosby
http://www.ronard.com/730731.html A bit more expensive / sturdy / configurable... Probably overkill. Ronard makes really good stuff. Robert West wrote: [IMG]http://i28.tinypic.com/fnsxl.jpg[/IMG] Another crude rendering. The bottom is where he mounts the pipe to the side of the house.

[WISPA] Tranzeo repair

2009-08-27 Thread RickG
I've got a bunch of Tranzeo CPE CPQ units that are bad for one reason or another. I'm considering repairing them but not sure of the most economical way to do so. I could stick a bullet in there but will need a reverse MMCX to NF cable? Alternatively, I could throw in another radio card of some

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo repair

2009-08-27 Thread Jason Hensley
How do you get them open without breaking the cases? That's been our issue with the older stuff. Haven't gotten any of the newer radios though, so that may have changed now. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo repair

2009-08-27 Thread Steve Barnes
Consider Mikrotik RB411r $55 UFL Pull out Tranzeo Board, drop in some Adhesive Connectors plug-in the RJ-45 Connector Tranzeo Provided. Turn it on. Your lights of coarse wont be there unless you mount the board kind of weird but that should work for $60 Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Chuck Profito
Robert, Not a bad idea at all. It would cut out a tripod and possible roof damage liability. That 'u' part, what is the apx depth of the 'u'? 18 24? and 10-12 vertically? If you are running around in the next few days, can you shoot a photo or two of a representative sample? I do like the idea

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo repair

2009-08-27 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
That's basically what we do with our out of warranty Tranzeo's, your screwed with the newer Tranzeo's because they don't have a cat5e jumper inside, their Ethernet mounts flush on the backplate. In my past experience some of the Tranzeo's are a crap shoot opening up. Some of them have silicone

Re: [WISPA] NTIA Announces 2,200 Applications for BIP/BTOP

2009-08-27 Thread chris cooper
It looks like stiff competition, especially at BTOP. 1230 rural applications. I would guess that a good portion of the 830 applications seeking joint evaluation are not willing to shoulder an RUS loan but are instead seeking more grants than they can get at BIP. Chris

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Mike
Instead of talking 33.3 days and 24 hours of sun, let's just take an average day. At optimal output, and for the sake of argument, let's say our 60W rated panels only produce 45W; optimally. Let's lob off 12% of that to satisfy the naysayers and devil's advocates, and to account for

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Christopher Erickson
Agreed. Also two 6 volt golf cart batteries are quite a bit superior to two 12 volt deep cycle batteries. The plates are just too thin in 12V automotive/marine sized batteries to provide long life with deep cycling. And 6v golf cart batteries come in different Ah ratings from about 95 to about

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread jp
All this fuzzy math about hours of sun in 33.3 days is useless and not the way the calculators work. If you are consuming 12w and generating 60w (4 toy panels), here's some math. 288w/day (12x24) load. According to the sun maps, we are in the 4 hour of sun (average!) area according to the sun

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Do the math on the worst case scenario. What kind of values do you need for the bad days - assuming you get a minimal charge during cloudy days, how long does the few hours of that charge last? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Scottie Arnett
Many places that are WISP are in the more remote rural areas, just for the fact it is harder to compete with the big cable and telco guys. The cost of bandwidth to get to these areas is way more than in the cities. A 2XT1 cost me $1379/mth...that's the best price available. I only offer 1.5Mbit

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Christopher Erickson
I have designed a fair number of off-grid radio sites and in general, I have come up with a few additional guidelines. 1. Have enough battery capacity to run for 7 days with zero charging. This will give you a window of response time if the charging system suffers a failure (or theft/vandalism)

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Curtis Maurand
Jack Unger wrote: Hi Victoria, The FCC Workship 1 Mbps statement is very, very generalized. It's nothing to get upset about. If we want the FCC to update their knowledge about WISPs then we need to educate the FCC. We DO educate them with every FCC filing and presentation that we make.

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Scott Reed
4 length of strut at the peak. 5' length of strut down where ever it falls on the eaves. Strut pipe clamp to fit pipe. /\ /-\ / \ / \ /\ Mike wrote: 'splain please! How is that configured? Thanks. At

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Chuck Profito
Chris, Re #4: Is that because the usable voltage? Ie: 11.2V of 12, 18 of 24? 36-38 of 48? Are these close to correct for std POE? Or what WISP's use? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Erickson Sent: Thursday,

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Christopher Erickson
* 48 volt power system (actually -48VDC) is a telco standard and there is a LOT of carrier-class telecom equipment and charging systems designed to operate on that voltage. Especially a lot of remote management control and monitoring stuff. * For the same watts, when voltage goes up, amperage

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed

2009-08-27 Thread Chuck Bartosch
He said he needed 5.3 PtMP. Chuck On Aug 27, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What was the problem? I don't believe it was ever said. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread St. Louis Broadband
Jack, I have to agree about setting the bar too high, especially if one is dealing with issues such as LOS issues. It will be interesting to see the WISPA comments. Thanks. Victoria From: Jack Unger [mailto:jun...@ask-wi.com] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:15 AM To:

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed

2009-08-27 Thread Randy Cosby
And I muddied the water with a snide reference to Alvarion's Webinars. Chuck Bartosch wrote: He said he needed 5.3 PtMP. Chuck On Aug 27, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What was the problem? I don't believe it was ever said. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo repair

2009-08-27 Thread Bill Gaylord
One of my employees just discovered that nearly all of our bad Tranzeos could be fixed just by replacing the wireless card. R52 cards work fine on the Tranzeo board. Tranzeo just sees it just like the old card. So for the price of an R52 card you now have a new Tranzeo. Just reseal the

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Chuck Profito
Thank you Chris for a great explanation! But it brings to mind two more questions (I know, I'm a PITA) Do Picoverters have much loss? ( I think I know inverters lose 20% or more ) And what is 'near exhaustion' on a 48 vdc plant? ( I'm assuming 4 12 volt batteries or 8 6 volt golf cart batteries

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
The internet is NOT a big truck. It's a series of tubes! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Aug

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo repair

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Am I the only one that simply can't stand the Tranzeo enclosures? I have had nothing but hell with that awful growth looking lump on the back. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
I read a survey not long ago (sorry, can't find it) that showed that, by far, the most important factor in broadband access was always-on as opposed to interrupting your phone service, waiting a minute before you can browse, etc. This was a survey of folks who had broadband. I manage my Medicare

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Jack Unger
Jonathan, Thank you for your very good examples of how you use "always-on" broadband to take care of Medicare, driver's license renewals, etc. We will use these examples to help make the case why broadband should be extended to all Americans. Your point about students needing 10 Mbps is

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo repair

2009-08-27 Thread Bret Clark
Can't say I like Tranzeo much in general...you get what you pay for. I mean we have some links that have been running for a while with no problem, but overall we try to go towards higher quality product when we can and only use Tranzeo in a pinch. On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 15:31 -0400, Josh Luthman

[WISPA] Stimulus Round 1 Application Update and some interesting analysis from the WiNOG Grants Cooperative

2009-08-27 Thread Charles Wu
Commerce and Agriculture Announce Strong Demand for First Round of Funding to Bring Broadband Jobs to More Americans - Nearly 2,200 Diverse Applications Submitted for Share of $4 Billion in Funding to Expand Broadband Access and Adoption Full story available here:

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo repair

2009-08-27 Thread Jason Hensley
That's one of the reasons I try to stay away from them. That and a really bad batch of CPE's a few years ago. Can't beat their 3650 start kit pricing though!! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo repair

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
We experimented with Tranzeo several years ago. There is one 5ghz CPE that's been connected at -84 servicing someone desperate for Internet since we started. I think it was February 2007. All of the other Tranzeo units since then have died and we've been forced to replace them. They're not bad

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo repair

2009-08-27 Thread ralph
I know! And that has been discussed many times and Tranzeo is adamant that it is the best way. I'd like to see them tall that to some of my climbers. Thank goodness for those EZ-45 connectors and that special crimper. Takes some of the pain out of teaching a tower monkey to make a good

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo repair

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Best way...if this wasn't a public list. We almost left the idea of a WISP behind because every good rainstorm or few we'd lose a Tranzeo AP. Water some how managed to get in that stupid bump. I just threw the last one out a few months ago but it was a priceless image - we had the pigtail from

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread ralph
This is a weird looking animal! A chimney mount for a dish with 5 straps. http://www.ronard.com/4424.html -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:51 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread ralph
But isn't your panel expense 2 to 4 times as much? I looked at powering some Tropos and Cisco mesh with solar and compared 48v with 12 volt. The 12 volt used a really high efficiency inverter to 120v and then to the radio. It was less than half the overall cost of the 48v system. Ralph

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Randy Cosby
Another example of overkill, but you'll never have to go back and fix it... except when the neighbors complain how ugly it is :) Up to 2 mast! ralph wrote: This is a weird looking animal! A chimney mount for a dish with 5 straps. http://www.ronard.com/4424.html -Original Message-

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Wonder if it works on real chimneys or just the cardboard ones =P Randy is right though - do it right the first time and never again! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,

Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

2009-08-27 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Jack, you're quite welcome. There are lots more examples, like renewing my ham radio license (have you checked http://www.vanityhq.com/ to see a GOOGLE MAP of all the hams in your neighborhood?...it's amazing). About the 10Mbps.it isn't a requirement at all now nor is 5Mbps even. My point is

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Terry Hickey
I have used some like that (only 2 straps) worked alright - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions Wonder if it works on real

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Eje Gustafsson
Careful with those. You tighten up to hard or you attach to an old chimney and you might find yourself with a big mason bill and maybe even a carpenter bill as well. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ralph Sent:

Re: [WISPA] WaveRider 3000 CCU

2009-08-27 Thread David Hulsebus
Dennis, Three things.. 1. The radio does need to be in switched mode not routed if you are using the MKTK as the router. protocol switched 2. The DHCP relay server IP needs to be added DHCP add X.X.X.X 3. Enable the DHCP relay DHCP enable That should do it. Make sure the CCU knows how to get to

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread AJ
What are you guys using to cut Unistrut? I love using it for side mounts on towers but most of those were precut to length before I arrived at the work site... On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com wrote: Careful with those. You tighten up to hard or you attach

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread ralph
I was debating whether or not it was an early/or late April first product introduction. No way I'd use one of those ugly things! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:28 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo repair

2009-08-27 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I don't know why you guys are getting water in your Tranzeo's boot covers, I've only had water in 1 out of 350 and that was because I just finger tightened the screws. I usually never tighten them all the way down just snug them a little with a socket driver. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Christopher Erickson
Here is the info on the Picoverters and other high efficiency converters from RO Associates: http://www.roassoc.com Average efficiency of about 87%. I wish it were 97%. Adding more 6V batts for more overall watt-hours of capacity will be the best way to extend run time. My advice is always

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Chuck Hogg
I was thinking the same thing. I saw a strapped pole to a chimney once for a TV antenna and it had crumbled the brick/mortar to the point that it was falling apart. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Scott Reed
Recip saw with medium metal blade. AJ wrote: What are you guys using to cut Unistrut? I love using it for side mounts on towers but most of those were precut to length before I arrived at the work site... On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo repair

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
I'm just on the other side of Ohio and we got it ALL of the time... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Robert West
Well, the story on this is, the competitor dude, he bought the wisp from a friend of mine who was near death from cancer and he bought it to make cash, didn't know a thing about wifi or networking. But the 2 motivators for him was, his guys were using 1/2 galvanized water pipe and fittings to

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread eje
Reproach saw. Same thing with all thread but make sure you put the bolts on before doing the cut. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: AJ aj.grant...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:53:15 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread J. Vogel
I don't understand the need for the full U bend. Why wouldn't it work going straight up from the facia/gable mount instead of continuing the bend to get back over the roof? I would think that it would be stronger and more rigid if the bends were all between the mounting points. Perhaps I am

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
I think you mean straight up from the j-arm. ASCII art didn't turn out from what I see. On 8/27/09, J. Vogel jvo...@vogent.com wrote: I don't understand the need for the full U bend. Why wouldn't it work going straight up from the facia/gable mount instead of continuing the bend to get back

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread J. Vogel
Obviously, my ASCII art skills are lacking. :) You are correct. Josh Luthman wrote: I think you mean straight up from the j-arm. ASCII art didn't turn out from what I see. On 8/27/09, J. Vogel jvo...@vogent.com wrote: I don't understand the need for the full U bend. Why wouldn't it work

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