Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Glenn Kelley
Having pastored in the nations poorest city I would far from disagree with you. Folks that should have never been able to have a home were given the ability to obtain loans - That is an understatement. The government has done all it can to push the idea that if you rent - your a failure They

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulationof net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread MDK
I've been on wireless lists and watched discussions about network management, traffic management, and damage control for what's almost a decade now.What I can say with confidence can be summed up as follows: We in this industry have absolutely no common agreement on a vast array of network

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Mike
Phoenix. Dry and warm. *OR* I live 5 minutes up the hill from a world class casino and hotel complex. http://www.meskwaki.com/ I could host, and you could take turns climbing my towers, and riding the zip lines here at Gilly Hollow. One of them is a terror at 750 feet. Mike -Original

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Mike
Jack, I actually had a biology professor who really believed in live and let die. He didn't believe in sending foreign aid to those countries not able to grow enough food to sustain themselves. He also subscribed heavily to the Monroe Doctrine. Mike _ From:

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Jeff Broadwick
1. Define overpopulation? I saw some numbers once that the entire world's population could have a nice size house on a decent piece of property in Texas...can't imagine the infrastructure requirements, but whatever. 2. Political corruption is a reality in any system. It's the best argument

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulationof net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Jeff Broadwick
That's just not accurate Tom. The Community Reinvestment Act required lenders to do a lot of this stuff and then Fannie and Freddie created the market for the paper. Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) -Original

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulationof net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Brad Belton
Thank you Jeff. You beat me to it! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:05 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Stuart Pierce
And driving almost to the dam to find no where to eat and ending up at some steak house, but it was less expensive than the other place that's for sure. I don't care what it's called, but I'm with Marlon, I like the manufacturer neutrality gathering and yes I'd like to have it in Columbus,

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Stuart Pierce
Heck with it, vendors contact me if you want to showcase wares in a show for WISPs or DISPs. -- Original Message -- From: Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:24:25 -0600 On Wed,

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Stuart Pierce
Columbus Ohio, yes. 25$ an hour, heck I got one for three for only $99 to your door. Course I imagine that is only to the door. -- Original Message -- From: Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 4 Feb

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulationof net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Matt Liotta
The Community Reinvestment Act was first passed in 1977. It was later changed under Bush in 1989 because of the S L crisis. I mention this only to provide some context as to how long it has been with us and the variety of administrations that have affected it. It was really the Federal Housing

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Stuart Pierce
Have I mentioned Columbus Ohio ? Downtown has everything, German Village, Italian Village, Victorian Village and Campus. Oh food, wine and song as well. -- Original Message -- From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com Reply-To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulationofnet-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Jeff Broadwick
CRA was started under Carter and greatly expanded under Clinton. This is a far more detailed conversation then we can have here, but the fact is that if the government (Fan and Fred) hadn't created the market for the paper, this could not have happened. Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Zip lines sound fun! On 2/5/10, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Phoenix. Dry and warm. *OR* I live 5 minutes up the hill from a world class casino and hotel complex. http://www.meskwaki.com/ I could host, and you could take turns climbing my towers, and riding the zip lines here at Gilly

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread RickG
Bob, personally, I dont gamble and I believe gambling is not good stewardship of money but I do believe everyone has a right to spend their money the way they see fit. Some may call it a waste but I imagine there are plenty of items and activites that you I probably do that could fall into the

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulationofnet-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Matt Liotta
That is factual incorrect. Only minor changes were made to CRA under Clinton. It was the Federal Housing Enterprises Financial Safety and Soundness Act also under Clinton that required Fannie and Freddie to securitize a certain percentage of CRA mortgages. Again, only a fraction of the bad

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Robert West
I love it that they had the FCC step in to stop the consumer protest and declare... to purposely try to disrupt or negatively impact a network with ill-intent is irresponsible and presents a significant public safety concern. Such BS. Isn't any large protest a potential safety concern? I'm

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-02-05 Thread Ray Jean
Marco We are looking for 50 meg pipe in Pulaski Tn.16724 west college st. Ray - Original Message - From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Can you give an exact address and

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Robert West
H... Mikes beer or Josh's beer... Depends on the beer, Mike. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:29 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulationofnet-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Brad Belton
The underlying point still holds true; big government imposing rules on lenders forcing them to lend to those that wouldn't have normally qualified. The cash for clunkers will probably have the same results. People getting a new car payment they probably wouldn't have qualified for without big

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Eje Gustafsson
Yeah I got a kick out of that article and to see the discussion re FCC and net-neutrality and FCC probes in anticompetive behavior and application prohibitations for the Iphone et all. Then to find out that this rebellion was planned but FCC worked to stopped it. Stay safe. Don't get out of bed.

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulationofnet-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Matt Liotta
On Feb 5, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Brad Belton wrote: The underlying point still holds true; big government imposing rules on lenders forcing them to lend to those that wouldn't have normally qualified. No, it in fact does not hold true. Since CRA mortgages were only a fraction of the bad

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's rolein regulationof net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Scottie Arnett
When I look at these things I think about they way my grandparents did things. That was when there was still some moral and ethical standards in place. The people losing their homes put themselves in that position. So what if they home is devalued %50 now. You signed and made the deal, live

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread RickG
Jack, The only companies that can do whatever they want to you whenever they want to do it are the ones given a monopoly and power by guess who - big government! So, where is the problem? Is it the companies or the government? On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread RickG
1. And God said Go and multiply. 2. Did I miss something? Nobody has said that where I can see. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Just keep saying to yourself. 1. Overpopulation is good. 2 Political corruption does not exist. Good luck and best wishes.

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role inregulationofnet-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Jeff Broadwick
I'm really not interested in getting into a big hairy argument with you on-list Matt. The CRA DID have an effect, and the market created by Fannie and Freddie allowed the whole thing to happen. There are certainly other factors, but those are the two biggest. I will agree with you that there

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Mike
Grainbelt from Minnesota, marked STRONG on the top. Commonly referred to in the Midwest as liquid cornflakes. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:00 AM To: 'WISPA General List'

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Robert West
25 bucks an hour? Man, I need to rethink things. I don't think I'm charging enough. Fred Garvin- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject:

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Robert West
Me thinks Stuart likes Columbus. OSU grad, Stuart? I like the town too. A lot less than a cow town as it used to be. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:37 AM To:

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Ohio weather sucks. Zipline would be fun! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Robert West

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Robert West
I think that's one thing most of us could agree on seeing as how wisp operators should enjoy heights. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Chuck Bartosch
On Feb 5, 2010, at 9:02 AM, Jeff Broadwick wrote: make campaigns post their contributions on the internet. That's already available if the donation is over $99. Chuck WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's rolein regulationof net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread RickG
I couldnt say it any better Scottie! My Grandparenets were part of the greatest generation. We need that back. The political side of it is that our government is not promoting such behavior but rather the opposite. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: When

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role inregulationofnet-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Matt Liotta
You keep make unsubstantiated claims. Where is your data? If you are so sure of CRA's effect where is the data? I mean every bank must disclose there numbers of CRA mortgages, so it is not hard to see what percentage of the overall market they are. Further, banks also publish what percentage of

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC'srolein regulationof net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Agreed. Who gives a crap if your house lost $30k in value? Pay your damn bills. Unemployment is what it is because people are too lazy or too proud of themselves to get a lesser job (or two). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC'srolein regulationof net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Every time I go out to lunch and speak with the waitress, I very often hear that people just came in at 10am for beer and liquor complaining that can't get a job. So logically, at 10am you go out drinking and complaining instead of job hunting. Makes sense in a I'm fat, dumb, lazy and getting

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Chuck Bartosch
On Feb 5, 2010, at 10:34 AM, RickG wrote: Jack, The only companies that can do whatever they want to you whenever they want to do it are the ones given a monopoly and power by guess who - big government! So, where is the problem? Is it the companies or the government? That statement

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulationof net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
The government has done all it can to push the idea that if you rent - your a failure How is that a bad thing? Financial Stability 101, go buy a home. Every family should have a home. I'm not critisizing people who have decided renting is better for them, there can be many reasons for that.

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Robert West
Oh, I totally agree. I'm not a gambler either, I may as well just walk in, hand the first person I see 500 bucks and walk out. The experience would be pretty much the same for me. But what Obama said was. You don't go buying a boat when you can barely pay your mortgage, Obama said. You

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role inregulationofnet-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Eje Gustafsson
On issue here is Carters dream in the 70's that every American should have a house or right to have a house of their own. This was for much laying dormant but Bush era brought this back. To own a house is not a right. It's a privilege, not everyone should or are suitable to own a house the idea

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulationof net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Yup...opensecrets.org Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 10:50 AM

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Matt Liotta
On Feb 5, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Chuck Bartosch wrote: That statement completely ignores history. The tendency of any unconstrained capitalist is to form a monopoly. Hell, *I'd* do it if I could ;-). And unconstrained capitalism that achieves a monopoly rarely acts in its customers own best

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Stuart Pierce
Hey now, the weather is nice today. Granted Columbus isn't Kettering, but hey, it's got more food. -- Original Message -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 10:44:30 -0500

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Josh Luthman
But what Obama said was. You don't go buying a boat when you can barely pay your mortgage, Obama said. You don't blow a bunch of cash on Vegas when you're trying to save for college. You prioritize. You make tough choices. This is the same guy pouring out stimulus money from the same entity

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Josh Luthman
I can barely see down the street because of snow and in the next 24 hours we're on a storm alert. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's rolein regulationof net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Robert West
100% correct. Too much of the Me, needs to be more Us. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 10:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's rolein regulationof net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Chuck Bartosch
On Feb 5, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Scottie Arnett wrote: I am not going to go into the political side, but what this country needs more than anything IMHO is the moral and ethical standards that were in this country 50 to 60 years ago. Funny you should say that. I did some reading when I was a

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC'srolein regulationof net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Chuck Bartosch
On Feb 5, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Every time I go out to lunch and speak with the waitress, I very often hear that people just came in at 10am for beer and liquor complaining that can't get a job. So logically, at 10am you go out drinking and complaining instead of job

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Chuck Bartosch
Yep, I agree with your statement (which was well put). Chuck On Feb 5, 2010, at 11:18 AM, Matt Liotta wrote: On Feb 5, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Chuck Bartosch wrote: That statement completely ignores history. The tendency of any unconstrained capitalist is to form a monopoly. Hell, *I'd* do

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Robert West
Hahahahaha! Marked STRONG on the top.. I love it! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 10:41 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on

[WISPA] Temporarily replace Atlas 5010 with Ubiquity Bullet

2010-02-05 Thread Jerry Richardson
Atlas link went down AGAIN! Probably my fault this time but have no spare. I have a pair of the Bullet that I could slap in there to get through the weekend. Think it will work out? The Trangos were passing ~25Mbps of traffic aggregate. [cid:image001.gif@01CAA63F.65692320] Broadband for

Re: [WISPA] Temporarily replace Atlas 5010 with Ubiquity Bullet

2010-02-05 Thread Nick Olsen
Don't see why not. I've seen them do more then 25mb/s easy. Nick Olsen Network Engineer / Customer Support (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 11:45 AM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC'srole in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Brian Webster
One thing that many people will not admit to is the true total cost of owning a home vs. renting. While anyone can say, hey for the price you are paying for rent you could have a mortgage, that is only part of the cost of home ownership. There are the taxes, maintenance and repairs, insurance and

Re: [WISPA] [ Possible Spam ] Re: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Glenn Kelley
Especially today into tomorrow and Sunday into Monday ;-) _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Feb

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulationof net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Robert West
Ah Actually minimum wage earners and even the unemployed could purchase a home if they had the right person doing the paperwork. We have a customer who was a mortgage broker. He explained it all to me one day. If the broker had a few banks that would buy the paper, pretty much sight

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Robert West
Yes, and notice how Josh suddenly clammed up once it was settled to all crash at his house and drink his beer, break his Playstation3 and embarrass him in front of all his neighbors at 3 in the morning.. I see how things are, Josh. After all we've been through together you have to turn

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Robert West
But it's the statement, not the man I agree with. Anyone could have said it and the logic still holds true. Besides, they took issue with the Vegas mention the irony of it all. I thought stimulus money was for the 25 buck prostitutes in Vegas. I may be wrong. -Original Message-

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulationof net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Glenn Kelley
_ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Feb 5, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: The government

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Josh Luthman
I have a fridge full of beer you are welcome to. I'll bring the whole fridge if I can go somewhere the weather isn't disgusting. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to

Re: [WISPA] Temporarily replace Atlas 5010 with Ubiquity Bullet

2010-02-05 Thread Michael Baird
I've got BulletM's doing 30 mb over a 10 mile shot on 20mhz wide channel. Make sure you get the latest super secret firmware (5.1.1) though, to avoid the WDS/Arp issues. Regards Michael Baird Atlas link went down AGAIN! Probably my fault this time but have no spare. I have a pair of the

Re: [WISPA] Captive Portals

2010-02-05 Thread Jeremie Chism
Agreed. I get 3 or 4 a week. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 5, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 19:27 -0600, Jeremie Chism wrote: I've used a company called 4ipnet.com. Reasonable prices and they have most features. Including being a spammer.

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Chuck Profito
How come we don't hear any one suggesting a show in Denver or Salt Lake? Pretty much the center of the country with MAJOR airline hubs direct to all points. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday,

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Glenn Kelley
Josh - just use the van - if its here - its cold enough _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Feb

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Jack Unger
Jeff Broadwick wrote: 1. Define overpopulation? I saw some numbers once that the entire world's population could have a nice size house on a decent piece of property in Texas...can't imagine the infrastructure requirements, but whatever. What was your number-cruncher smoking? 2.

Re: [WISPA] Captive Portals

2010-02-05 Thread Butch Evans
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 19:27 -0600, Jeremie Chism wrote: I've used a company called 4ipnet.com. Reasonable prices and they have most features. Including being a spammer. I've now had to filter their emails, since they will NOT stop sending me their crap. --

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Jack Unger
Good points. When I have to choose between guns (war) or butter (peace), I'll choose the butter. Robert West wrote: Life, Liberty, Property. Those were the basics that our government was formed to protect for us. For the common defense. It's now morphed from the government For the

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Mike
I think the REAL center is somewhere in Kansas. Having said that, I like Denver and would definitely go there for a show. There are plenty of other things to do there too for family members or thrill seekers alike. Yep, cabin fever is beginning to set in here in Central Iowa. I have been

Re: [WISPA] Temporarily replace Atlas 5010 with Ubiquity Bullet

2010-02-05 Thread Matt Jenkins
It will depend on how many packets per second it was passing. The bullets can do a lot of throughput but start having issues with more than 7-8k pps. Jerry Richardson wrote: Atlas link went down AGAIN! Probably my fault this time but have no spare. I have a pair of the Bullet that I could

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Robert West
And that figures because the weather was nice all week but N!!! I got stuck on service calls and finally have the time to install a backhaul today... Sucks! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Mike
Oh I agree wholeheartedly with the belief election reform is needed. A taxpayer funded system with a set, and sensible budget would keep the well funded from swaying the electorate and becoming beholding to special interests. Term limits for all congressional seats should be set at 6 years.

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role inregulationof net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
Unemployment stats are also misleading. For example, Many people had high dollar jobs when they qualified for their homes, then lot them. They then tppk jobs at half the salary because that is what they could find. UNemployment stats dont show that people are Employed but working in job at

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Jayson Baker
I'm down with Denver, since it's about an hour away. But really, Vegas is usually the cheapest to fly into, and cheap to stay at; with plenty to do with a short walk from your hotel. I've been in every casino in Vegas and never taken a cab or had to drive. Denver... ehh, not so much. On Fri,

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Brad Belton
I would hope everyone would choose peace over war, but history has proven since the beginning of time that peace is achieved through war. Without a clearly defined Winner and Loser of war there will never be peace. Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Temporarily replace Atlas 5010 with Ubiquity Bullet

2010-02-05 Thread Nick Olsen
I've got it if you/anyone needs it. you=op Nick Olsen Network Engineer / Customer Support (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 12:05 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Temporarily replace Atlas 5010 with Ubiquity Bullet

2010-02-05 Thread Jerry Richardson
Thanks, It's not an M - Ubiquity's firware site makes 3.5 the highest available version. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread Josh Luthman
I see you're down on 35 so you're feeling the same weather we are. I have 3 customers that went down all in the same area around a 900 AP. Spoke with one of them and at least that one has power (and a generator!) I'm guessing the snow weighed down the antennas enough. The AP definitely isn't

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role inregulationof net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Brad Belton
The Government isn't doing enough. They are failing Homeowners, in similar ways that they are failing to assist small ISPs. They label them financially unworthy to give help to. This statement/sentiment in a nutshell is the problem. Those that are looking to big government to hold their hand

Re: [WISPA] Temporarily replace Atlas 5010 with Ubiquity Bullet

2010-02-05 Thread Jayson Baker
3.5 is for legacy products 5.1 is the latest for N products On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: Thanks, It's not an M - Ubiquity's firware site makes 3.5 the highest available version. -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] Temporarily replace Atlas 5010 with Ubiquity Bullet

2010-02-05 Thread Jerry Richardson
that's what I though thanks on my way. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Temporarily replace Atlas 5010 with Ubiquity

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC'srolein regulationof net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
The people losing their homes put themselves in that position. So what if they home is devalued %50 now. You signed and made the deal, live with it. Exactly. Thats a failure of this generation's American people and their values, not a failure of the Government. And its not just a failure of

Re: [WISPA] Temporarily replace Atlas 5010 with Ubiquity Bullet

2010-02-05 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
What was the issue with the Trango? Our 5010s and Link-45s have been solid, with the exception of the latest set I put out. Bad seal or something, was cooking the ethernet connector. -Paul Jerry Richardson wrote: that's what I though thanks on my way. -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] Temporarily replace Atlas 5010 with Ubiquity Bullet

2010-02-05 Thread Jerry Richardson
First unit failure stopped transmitting Replacement unit failure is probably installer error (me). -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Gerstenberger Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 10:26 AM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation ofnet-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
Matt, Well said. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta mlio...@r337.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's roleinregulationofnet-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Talk to a mortgage lender...they have all become agents for Fannie and Freddie. Few of them do their own underwriting anymore. Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Temporarily replace Atlas 5010 with Ubiquity Bullet

2010-02-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
Well, admittedly Tlinks dont have a very high PPS either. Do I think Bullet will work out? Sure... For a little while. But can you trust it to stay that way? Probably not. I wouldn't. Not with that super low price Trango Promo until Feb 15th. Tlink gets you... Interference scanner, Layer2 speed

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC'srole inregulationof net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
Brad, Although I understand your valid point that you are pointing out I disagree. You are assuming incorrectly that homeowners and small WISPs are looking to the Government to hold their hand to solve their problems. for example, I've done it on my own, and rose to the occation, I pay my

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's roleinregulationofnet-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Matt Liotta
What does your quip have to do with your earlier assertions regarding CRA? Is your response to facts that challenge your position to simply change the subject? I worry you formed your position without proper research. -Matt On Feb 5, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Jeff Broadwick wrote: Talk to a

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Jack Unger
Your statement is true when there is NOT enough food, clothing or shelter for everybody. But when there IS enough food, clothing and shelter for everybody, there is no need for war in order to achieve temporary "peace". This is why overpopulation is so bad - it creates war and makes real

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC'sroleinregulationofnet-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Jeff Broadwick
I've seen plenty of research Matt. You ask for proof from me and you've provided none yourself. If you want to provide the basis for your statements and have an argument, let's have it. We'll probably have to do it off-list, since I'm sure everyone is getting tired of this, as am I.

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

2010-02-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Have you looked at the network maps I posted just a few days ago to see if anyone has a network presence near you? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Ray Jean webbil...@surfmore.net Sent: Friday,

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Jeff Broadwick
C'mon Jack, war is about trying to accumulate power, not get rid of excess people. Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC'sroleinregulationofnet-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Matt Liotta
I won't attempt to prove a negative. It was you who made the claim CRA caused the housing crisis. It is therefore incumbent on you to prove the claim. This is especially true since you have provided no basis for your claim. I have provided facts related to the CRA that have not been refuted by

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: TheFCC'sroleinregulationofnet-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Here is a nice timeline for anyone that wants to read it. I'm done with this on-list: http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/what_really_happened_in_the_mo.html Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) -Original Message-

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC'sroleinregulationofnet-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Eje Gustafsson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act I think the paragraph Housing Advocacy groups and Predatory lending speaks pretty much for itself. CRA failed miserably in those areas because of the simple fact that after all CRA was all about to provide equal financing opportunities to

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Jack Unger
C'mon Jeff. There is NO NEED to accumulate power if you don't have excess people. jack Jeff Broadwick wrote: C'mon Jack, war is about trying to accumulate power, not get rid of excess people. Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: TheFCC'sroleinregulationofnet-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Brad Belton
Wow...looks like a good read for some time tonight. Just too busy right now. Thanks for the link! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 3:12 PM To: 'WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Human nature? Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 4:21 PM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread Jack Unger
My nature is to be peaceful, my friend. jack Jeff Broadwick wrote: Human nature? Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-05 Thread RickG
I agree with you on peoples financial priorites but its their business as long as they dont take assistance from taxpayers. As for malice - people in Vegas and Nevada think so. -RickG On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Oh, I totally agree. I'm not a

Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of net-neutrality

2010-02-05 Thread RickG
Chuck, where did I say unrestrained? The rest of my post is questions. So, I agree with your reply in as much as that nobody should be unrestrained. As far as history, to what do you refer to? -RickG On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.comwrote: On Feb 5, 2010,

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