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Opinion: It won't be good.
Also, the financial reform currently contains a provision that requires
ANY contract that can be construed as credit extended to your customer be
approved by an as yet not created federal agency.
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But THEY are going to get one, and I doubt you or I will see that change during
our lifetime.
Scottie
-- Original Message --
From: Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:42:57 -0500
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 13:29 -0600, Scottie Arnett
Finally someone in the major press willing to call a spade a spade.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 1:29 PM
Subject: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
REVIEW OUTLOOK MARCH 15, 2010
] From Today's WSJ
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 13:29 -0600, Scottie Arnett wrote:
If they are giving them some form of subsidy to build these
networks, then I think we should have access to use it too.
This is the wrong way to view it, though. I'm not looking to argue the
point, but want to address
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Scottie, the problem is nothing at all to do with open access.This
open access has the effect of fixing the type of access. Once you
build a network, and a third party mandates you share it at prices they set,
no more networks will be built
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Did they even give the open access a chance even back then? This was the
start for the end of the dial-up ISP's. Do they not remember the end of
line sharing in the early 2000's? The throw-off of what the big players
did not think would ever succeed
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 13:29 -0600, Scottie Arnett wrote:
If they are giving them some form of subsidy to build these
networks, then I think we should have access to use it too.
This is the wrong way to view it, though. I'm not looking to argue the
point, but want to address this in a
Either way you put it suggests that capitalism is being destroyed.
On 3/16/10, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote:
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 13:29 -0600, Scottie Arnett wrote:
If they are giving them some form of subsidy to build these
networks, then I think we should have access to use it
It's those damn communists. They're on the march again. Quick, man the
barricades!
Wait, I'm wrong. It's ATT and Verizon. They're on the march again.
Quick, open the gates to the City.
Jeff Broadwick wrote:
REVIEW OUTLOOK MARCH 15, 2010
Broadband Trojan Horse
The FCC has a new plan but
A misplaced personal opinion rant:
The new United States, where everything is written and reported as us vs
the nefarious them, where everything is a conspiracy.
As if the sensationalist, yellow dog journalistic title, Broadband
Trojan Horse wasn't a big enough clue, I knew this article would be
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
It's those damn communists. They're on the march again. Quick, man the
barricades!
Wait, I'm wrong. It's ATT and Verizon. They're
the Baltic republics circa early 1990's.
Patrick
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 2:52 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Wow, Jack and Patrick
before
we end up like the Baltic republics circa early 1990's.
Patrick
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 2:52 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Do not feed the trolls :)
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote:
It's those damn communists. They're on the march again. Quick, man the
barricades!
Wait, I'm wrong. It's ATT and Verizon. They're on the march again.
Quick, open the gates to the City.
Jeff
] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 6:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Hi Jeff,
Mine was not a return bomb to you Jeff, just a general comment about the
state of our society. To be sure though it was not a news article, it was an
opinion piece
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 9:16 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Hi Patrick,
I'm sorry. My note was more directed at my good friend Jack than at you.
:-)
I'm not a fan of the government's intervention
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
It's those damn communists
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From: Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 2:19 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
A misplaced personal opinion rant:
The new United States, where everything is written
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Did they even give the open access a chance even back then? This was the
start for the end of the dial-up ISP's. Do they not remember the end of
line sharing in the early 2000's? The throw-off of what the big players
did not think would ever succeed, being
WE collectively NEED handouts from the taxpayers? Like hell we do. All we
need is some guts and a willingness to actually risk a bit for what we
actually believe in.
I think you meant DO WE collectively NEED handouts from the taxpayers? like
hell we do not need them.
@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
That is my point. Over my lifetime, I've done a lot of moving and
traveling.
What I find is that some areas are not as progressive as others - and they
want it that way. Why do the Feds think they know whats best for these
areas? Dont
General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
In my 3 county area that I was developing an application for, there were
25,000 households without access to service and in one of those counties I
was only covering the lower
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
In my 3 county area that I was developing an application for, there
were
25,000 households without access to service and in one of those
counties I
was only
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
In my 3 county area that I was developing an application for, there
were
25,000 households
@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Marlon,
Read this take rate brief I wrote with one of the data companies I work
with. It will take you about 10 minutes. It goes in to specific detail of
how the study was conducted and the sources
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Right
: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
So, the salient points are, as I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong):
(1) Brian's numbers are 24 million currently HAVE NO ACCESS TO SERVICE.
His number DOES NOT INCLUDE the number who have access but have chosen
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:10 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Actually, from where I'm sitting, it seems like roll-outs have slowed
dramatically as people
that number shrinks steadily...
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From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:22 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
I won't comment on the first parts
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:28 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores the point that 24 or more million occupied American
...
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From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 8:21 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Our rollouts have slowed but only because demand has dropped off.
Those that want
,
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
So, the salient points are, as I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong):
(1
in it!
Man I could be making a lot more money if I lived nearly anywhere else!
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
In my 3 county area that I was developing an application for, there were
25,000 households without access
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Until you have to deal with the trees and mountains he has too :-)
Thank You,
Brian Webster
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Thursday, January 21
: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com jun...@ask-wi.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:27 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Right: The Technology Policy Institute notes that at the current rates of
broadband adoption the U.S. is behind
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
So, the salient points are, as I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong):
(1) Brian's numbers are 24 million currently HAVE NO ACCESS TO SERVICE.
His number DOES NOT INCLUDE the number who have access but have chosen
not
to subscribe.
(2) You
t; jun...@ask-wi.com jun...@ask-wi.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:27 AM
To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores the point that 24 o
Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
In my 3 county area that I was developing an application for, there were
25,000 households without access to service and in one
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores the point that 24 or more million occupied American
households have no access to broadband. The WSJ is merely a mouthpiece
(especially now that Rupurt Murdoch owns it) for the telcos.
jack
Jeff Broadwick
20, 2010 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores the point that 24 or more million occupied American
households have no access to broadband. The WSJ is merely a mouthpiece
(especially now that Rupurt
@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores the point that 24 or more million occupied American
households have no access to broadband. The WSJ is merely a mouthpiece
(especially now that Rupurt Murdoch owns
2010 10:27 AM
To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores the point that 24 or more million occupied American
households have no access to broadban
] From Today's WSJ
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores the point that 24 or more million occupied American
households have no access to broadband. The WSJ is merely a mouthpiece
(especially now that Rupurt Murdoch owns it) for the telcos.
jack
Jeff
eff
Jeff Broadwick
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:28 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fro
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sure coverage is increasing but that's just a distraction. The issue is
that the current level of home broadband Internet access is way too low and
millions of people are deprived of Internet
http://www.wispa.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Jack.JPG
:-p
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: Jack Unger
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:16 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sure coverage is increasing
List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sure coverage is increasing but that's just a distraction. The issue is
that the current level of home broadband Internet access is way too low and
millions of people are deprived of Internet access at home (or in a
home-based business). The article
OK, as I understand that the report is based upon the 477 data?
marlon
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From: Jack Unger
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Marlon,
See the attached report. Go to Table 2 on page
Nice teddy bear!
- Original Message -
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
http://www.wispa.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Jack.JPG
:-p
teddy bear!
- Original Message -
From: "Mike Hammett" wispawirel...@ics-il.net
To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
http://www.wispa.org/wp-content
...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:28 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores the point that 24 or more million occupied American
households
Of Jack Unger
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:28 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores the point that 24 or more million occupied American
households have no access to broadband
, January 20, 2010 12:16 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sure coverage is increasing but that's just a distraction. The issue is
that the current level of home broadband Internet access is way too low and
millions of people are deprived of Internet access at home
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
OK, as I understand that the report is based upon the 477 data?
marlon
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...@wirelessmapping.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Marlon,
Read this take rate brief I wrote with one of the data companies I work
with. It will take you about 10 minutes. It goes in to specific detail of
how the study
:27 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores the point that 24 or more million occupied American
households have no access to broadband. The WSJ is merely a mouthpiece
the marketing data at the census
block level prior to July.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
-Original Message-
From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:o...@odessaoffice.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:46 PM
To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Heya
.
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From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:27 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores the point that 24 or more million
he growth of actual data moved... The percentage increase every
month is near or at double digits.
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From: "Jack Unger" jun...@ask-wi.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:27 AM
To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org
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is near or at double digits.
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From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com jun...@ask-wi.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:27 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sorry
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From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:58 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Is that directly off the pages of the Democrat
I'd like to ponit out that the article leaves out some information, and it
leaves you with a false impression because of it. It made note of the
price of broadband being cheaper in Japan and other places. That's true,
but much of the infrastructure was funded by tax dollars, instead of the
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
I'd like to ponit out that the article leaves out some information, and it
leaves you with a false impression because of it. It made note of the
price of broadband being cheaper in Japan and other places. That's
true,
but much
It is also seems to be citing that way over used and mostly irrelevant
OECD statistics.
http://www.ultra-high-speed-mn.org/CM/MeetingAgendasandMinutes/MeetingAgendasandMinutes54.asp
Had a presentation and there are links to a power point and very
extensive study on the OECD numbers by Scott
broadband component.
Jeff
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Schmidt
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:52 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Most of the innuendos and descriptions were ill
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:28 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Agreed, I don't like the international comparisons because they are
apples/oranges. It's not fair to compare
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From: rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:30 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
I'd like to ponit out that the article
Hello,
I do not know about you, but I am kind of glad the US government and
the BIG guys can not get it right. With the money they have wasted we
should have at least had 1 mb if not 10mb to everyone in the us, man, woman
and child.
This is where we come in. Because the could
What this author so quickly forgets is, Spectrum is to serve the public
interest not the treasury's pocket.
And the Public pays more, when the providers pay more for spectrum.
The auctiioon clearly will be a victory, if it means more than one or tow
big companies get a peice.
Tom DeReggi
Jeff,
Who wrote this?
One fact worth noting is the wireless number. It mostly means cellular.
Cellular is not a third competitor.
- Peter
Jeff Broadwick wrote:
Note the Wireless portion of the growth from last year:
REVIEW OUTLOOK
Broadband Breakout
February 16, 2007; Page
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