RE: [WISPA] illegal CPE installs

2006-11-27 Thread Forbes Mercy
Only one warning in that advice. If the FCC takes any interest which they ususally don't (think CB) the first one they will require testing on is you. We had a person running 40 watts and a quick call around found that the FCC likes to make sure the complaintant is also above board. We've bee

RE: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread Rick Smith
I had another ISP borrow a trango radio to do a training session at the local college for their hosted medical application. They connected the trango to the network, and then ran a Cisco IPSEC connection over it using PIX firewalls. That was enough to satisfy the HIPAA requirements. R -Ori

Re: [WISPA] illegal CPE installs

2006-11-27 Thread Jon Langeler
That's what I'm saying. They would likely end up moving to another frequency of which may pose more harm to Travis's current network. Not that he should be scared because Trango kicks Canopy's butt right?! :-) Jon Langeler Michwave Tech. Tom DeReggi wrote: Of course they aren't going to vount

RE: [WISPA] Bet they didn't plan this.. LOL

2006-11-27 Thread Rick Smith
funnier thing is, the "view source' pages of those top 10 returns hardly have ANY "www" solo keywords in them... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA]

RE: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread Mac Dearman
Scriv, I carry 2 hospitals and 4 clinics in N. Louisiana and are their primary internet connections. We had this discussion last year and a simple VPN from their router to my core router was more than sufficient to meet HIPPA guidelines. HIPPA "compliance" is a very vague area! Mac Dearman --

Re: [WISPA] illegal CPE installs

2006-11-27 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Me? I'd make a few calls about it. First to them. It's amazing how often management doesn't know the rules. If that won't fix it, I'd call Motorola. If that doesn't work, I'd call the FCC. The last thing this industry needs is people screwing with the one thing that the FCC has been a stick

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread Peter R.
Back to your problem: Wireless = Unsecure. You have a Marketing problem. The onus is on you to get him to tell you why your network is unsecure. Objections are made to be hurdled, after all. Explaining that cable and DSL are LAN based topologies is not going to help you. You need describe ho

Re: [WISPA] Bet they didn't plan this.. LOL

2006-11-27 Thread Pete Davis
What I have seen is that if you ping google.com, your results will vary based on your DNS server. The results (especially the order) seem to vary slightly between 72.14.203.104 (www.google.com) [returns yahoo.com] 64.233.167.99 (www.google.com) [www returns w3.org] and 72.14.203.99 (www.google.

Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS

2006-11-27 Thread Mario Pommier
We've done it two ways: 1. Electric -> Power converter/charger ->12V Batteries -> DC regulator -> DC radios: no AC power adapters 2. Electric -> Power converter/charger ->12V Batteries -> DC regulator -> DC-to-AC converter -> AC power adapters so we use the DC setup to isolate AC lightni

Re: [WISPA] AT&T launches WiMAX at NV Brothels

2006-11-27 Thread Rick Kunze
I drove through Pahrump the day before yesterday on my way from Lake Havasu to Death Valley for the last night of my vacation. Don't worry, we're safe. LOL ;) At 07:27 PM 11/20/2006, you wrote: http://andyabramson.blogs.com/voipwatch/2006/11/att_hooking_wim.html http://telephonyonline.com/

Re: [WISPA] Bet they didn't plan this.. LOL

2006-11-27 Thread David E. Smith
George Rogato wrote: Hmm, my page came with yahoo 1st and w3c 2nd. here's what I got: (yahoo being first) Google tries to provide results that will be relevant to their users, and Yahoo! is one of the biggest and most popular sites on the Web. Honestly, it just looks like Google is doing its

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread Tom DeReggi
Private network Great point. Its one of our biggest selling points for multi-location businesses. It like having their own private network engineered for them. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "cw" <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [WISPA] illegal CPE installs

2006-11-27 Thread Tom DeReggi
Of course they aren't going to vounteer to shut down. But the FCC will inforce the rules, and shut them down, if they are illegally operating, and causing harm. They just have better things to do than go on wild goose chases, so you have to deliver proof. I don;t know about you, but if the FCC

[WISPA] HIPAA

2006-11-27 Thread Peter R.
Here's a good article on SIM and data security vis a vis reg compliance: Legal Drivers, Cost Implications For Information Security http://www.securitypronews.com/news/securitynews/spn-45-20061114LegalDriversCostImplicationsforInformationSecurity.html -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Sub

Re: [WISPA] Bet they didn't plan this.. LOL

2006-11-27 Thread Tom DeReggi
Funny. But then again maybe the perception was, if they were already using google, why would they need to find it? Whats interesting is that if you do a Yahoo search for "www" Google still doesn;t come up :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Ori

Re: [WISPA] illegal CPE installs

2006-11-27 Thread Jon Langeler
IMO it comes down to if/how they are affecting you and what you want them to do about it? You could persuade or force them to move everything to another freq. which may/may not end up being in your favor. If your trying to get them to give-up and shut the doors...I can't forsee that pursuit bei

RE: [WISPA] Bet they didn't plan this.. LOL

2006-11-27 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, Gino A. Villarini wrote: W3c ? 2nd came yahoo ... When I accidentally did that search, Yahoo was the first. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultant

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread cw
You're right. Perception is everything. So I picked up two things from this thread. One, why is the onus on me to prove my network is secure? Break into it or you're just passing on hot air from uninformed or biased sources. Two, I can offer transport on a private network that doesn't touch the

Re: [WISPA] Bet they didn't plan this.. LOL

2006-11-27 Thread George Rogato
Hmm, my page came with yahoo 1st and w3c 2nd. here's what I got: Web Results 1 - 100 of about 4,030,000,000 English pages for www [definition]. (0.24 seconds) Yahoo! Welcome to Yahoo!, the world's most visited home page. Quickly find what you're searching for, get in touch with friends and s

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread Peter R.
It is HIPAA - The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act. It covers way more than just encrypting data. Like Pat said, it is a process. Even paper records have to have a chain of command and security. So when you see the files in the reception area at your doctor's office, unless t

RE: [WISPA] Bet they didn't plan this.. LOL

2006-11-27 Thread Gino A. Villarini
W3c ? 2nd came yahoo ... Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:06 PM To: Wispa List Subjec

Re: [WISPA] Bet they didn't plan this.. LOL

2006-11-27 Thread George Rogato
You'd think google would be first Butch Evans wrote: Do a google search for "www"look at the first link... ;-) -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/

Re: [WISPA] Bet they didn't plan this.. LOL

2006-11-27 Thread George Rogato
Yahoo? Butch Evans wrote: Do a google search for "www"look at the first link... ;-) -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: ht

[WISPA] Bet they didn't plan this.. LOL

2006-11-27 Thread Butch Evans
Do a google search for "www"look at the first link... ;-) -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscri

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, John Scrivner wrote: Wireless broadband security issues have now officially led to my business being put into a bad light due to perceived lack of security. I am a member of a regional broadband planning group that is working with health care and other industry sectors to

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, John Scrivner wrote: I never doubted this. I just need to find someway to make the corporate people believe they can use my wireless transport to deliver an end to end solution that will be HIPAA compliant with my service located in the center. Passing the buck is not the

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread John Scrivner
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HIPPA compliance should beUp to the network administrator. Not the carrier IMHO. This is not a matter of opinion. It is factual. I never doubted this. I just need to find someway to make the corporate people believe they can use my wireless

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread John Scrivner
It does not matter if the responsibility is the network admin or not when it comes down to purchase time. It comes down to perception. Right now perception of the hospital corporate officers is that wireless = not secure. I have been told by people who order circuits that they are not allowed t

Re: [WISPA] illegal CPE installs

2006-11-27 Thread Tom DeReggi
There are two very distinct issues in thos post... One is using a third party antenna, with a radio, that it is not certified with, and installing an uncertified system. Two is running a equipment above allowable EIRPs. As for "one", as you have mentioned to me before, installing a StarOS or

Re: [WISPA] illegal CPE installs

2006-11-27 Thread Jack Unger
Travis, What's the illegality? Are they using 5150 - 5250 (indoor use only)? Are they exceeding + 30 dBm EIRP on either the AP or the SM? jack Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Curious to everyone's thoughts about a regional WISP installing illegal CPE units? They are using Last Mile Gear 120deg

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
BTW, we're going to try to work out something with the local hospital for data storage. We want to do off site backup for them. Via a dedicated link to a server that never touches the internet! I'll be working on physical security of the server as well as the transport needs. Issues like no

RE: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Are you suggesting single DES? I wouldn't recommend that. Go with 3DES or AES. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 5:33 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wireless Se

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread George Rogato
I have a few hospital employees working at home across my wireless system. They vpn into the hospital and we don't do anything special for them. One reason that they tell the employees to use us is because we service them quickly when they have an issue. I will agree that we've lost work becau

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
I have a customer who works from home transcribing mammogram notes from doctors into their system. Their IT department put a Cisco VPN router at the client side to connect to their VPN at the imaging center. We discussed HIPPA, and they were not worried about my side at all as they were encryptin

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HIPPA compliance should beUp to the network administrator. Not the carrier IMHO. This is not a matter of opinion. It is factual. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ Mikrotik Certified

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread Tom DeReggi
I think its important to understand where the client's fear comes from. Its thinking that they are opening their network wide up. HIPPA is making a client process compliant not the hardware itself, as just mentioned by someone. But one of the processes is what network policies does the hospitol

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread Tom DeReggi
John, There is no HIPPA certification for a broadband connection. HIPPA is an overall concept to have a medical intity secure it's customer records. This is a configuration of its internal network, security devices, and security policies, not the broadband connection itself. Any broadband c

[WISPA] illegal CPE installs

2006-11-27 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Curious to everyone's thoughts about a regional WISP installing illegal CPE units? They are using Last Mile Gear 120degree Canopy 120 degree sectors (5.2GHz) and then putting the Canopy 5.2GHz SM in dishes at customer locations. I am talking about thousands of CPE installed this way and d

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread lakeland
John To the best of my knowledge there are no HIPPA compliant solutions that are actually approved We have installed a ton of links for hospitals and other medical facilities an this issur comes up from time to time. We pretty much tell the customer that we are just a carrier and we encrypt o

RE: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread Jeff Broadwick
You aren't any less secure than any other transport provider. They are responsible for encrypting the traffic. All they need is a router or server on each end to handle the encryption. If you are serving as the VAR and/or consultant on the deal, then this is an opportunity for you to sell them

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread lakeland
Good luck Rick. Last I looked there was no clear outline Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Rick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:23:15 To:"'WISPA General List'" Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass? I'

RE: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
John, Do you have a listing of HIPPA security needs? One thing you can do is provide a secure tunnel, IPSEC is best, or a security on top of security approach. This tunnel will run from your customer equipment, his hospital, etc, to your boarder router etc that is connected via fiber or land

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread Peter R.
Great questions, Marlon! You are correct that it is application/data encryption needed, not transport security. Every hospital has a HIPAA Officer. Talk to that person. By 2009, they all have to have EMR and HIPPA compliance, along with some EDI with health insurance payers. - Peter Radizes

RE: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread Patrick Leary
John, this is a common question of a vastly misunderstood issue. And while I do not purport to be an expert on HIPAA, I have encountered the question many times. There is no such thing as being HIPAA compliant from a hardware standpoint. Rather, HIPAA addresses how information is handled as it pa

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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
HIPAA is NOT your responsibility. It is the responsibility of the hospital/health care entity to make sure that they are HIPAA compliant at the point where they connect to the Internet. If they are unable to make that distinction, then doing business with them is asking for trouble because th

RE: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
Well said! Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -Original Message

RE: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread Charles Wu
I can expand on this, but would that be considered a "vendor pitch" ? (discussion will include product capabilities, etc) -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTE

[WISPA] WAR board distributors

2006-11-27 Thread Tom DeReggi
US Distributors, Are any of you planning on stepping up to stock/carry WAR533 boards w/embedded StarOS V3, for better US availabilty? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Officially, hippa compliance is a CLIENT issue. As long as the data is properly encrypted there's no need for the transport to be. Some will argue this (mainly the telco but sometimes the customer). It's still a fact. Questions to ask them. What do the Doctors use for connectivity to their

RE: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread Rick Smith
I've been wonderin about this same thing. I've always blown it off and won the "argument" but Where's the HIPAA cert stuff to be found ? Like, exact checklists ? R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Monday, November

[WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?

2006-11-27 Thread John Scrivner
Wireless broadband security issues have now officially led to my business being put into a bad light due to perceived lack of security. I am a member of a regional broadband planning group that is working with health care and other industry sectors to help deliver broadband options to all areas

Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi Faces New Patent Woes

2006-11-27 Thread Matt Liotta
Peter R. wrote: The question remains why the Australian organisation is deciding to pursue this patent at this stage in the market. While companies must be able to reap the rewards of their own research and development, there also must be consideration for the positive effects that low cos

[WISPA] Wi-Fi Faces New Patent Woes

2006-11-27 Thread Peter R.
http://www.sda-asia.com/sda/features/psecom,id,764,srn,2,nodeid,4,_language,Singapore.html Wi-Fi Faces New Patent Woes A federal judge in Tyler, Texas, ruled last week that an Australian government agency holds the rights to patents on the underlying technology used in two Wi-Fi standards an

Re: [WISPA] Handheld Spectrum analyzer mentioned on list last summer

2006-11-27 Thread Mike Ireton
If you're speaking of the Spectran, I have one and it doesn't seem to work too well for me. The issue for me is that there seems to be not enough resolution to be working with the reletively low power unliscensed systems as we do. I'm sure for paging and gsm it's great but after trying repeat

Re: [WISPA] Handheld Spectrum analyzer mentioned on list last summer

2006-11-27 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, November 27, 2006 11:43 am, rabbtux rabbtux wrote: > I recall there was some interest in a German manufactured handheld > spectrum analyzer last summer(cost about 1K). Some on the list were > going to pool their resources to make a overseas order. You're thinking of the Spectran analyzer

[WISPA] Handheld Spectrum analyzer mentioned on list last summer

2006-11-27 Thread rabbtux rabbtux
All, I recall there was some interest in a German manufactured handheld spectrum analyzer last summer(cost about 1K). Some on the list were going to pool their resources to make a overseas order. Did that ever happen? Does anyone have one of those units?? How does it work? -- WISPA Wireless Li

[WISPA] Re: wall mount racks

2006-11-27 Thread Justin Wilson
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