Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups

2010-08-31 Thread Bret Clark
I know with our older Tranzeo's it was a common problem, since we switch to MT, we haven't seen that problem, plus the features MT provides is light years beyond any Tranzeo. Bret On 08/31/2010 12:05 AM, Mark Dueck wrote: I've been having quite a bit of problems with Tranzeo radios not coming

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
I was referring to What would make one think that two radios, with a 16dbi antennas would work well and stable on a 14 mile link using allowable power in 5.X ghz or even 2.4 ghz ? Thanks. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 8/31/2010 1:43 AM, Mark Dueck wrote: I know. I had

[WISPA] Mediacomm contact

2010-08-31 Thread Mike
Does anyone have a good contact at Mediacomm they'd share with me? Thanks. Friendly Regards, Mike Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 239.770.6203 m...@aweiowa.com

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups

2010-08-31 Thread Stuart Pierce
How old are they and what models may answer be the answer to why the lock up when you change them. I've got one TR-5a that I know I should go to be able to power cycle it if I make a change, and it's a few years old. -- Original Message -- From: Mark

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Steve Barnes
I am going to chime in here and say Look at RADWIN 2000c series. I have one pair pushing 80+ MB FDX over 20 mile link. They are more money than UBNT but allot less than Dragonwave and Moto. http://www.radwin.com/Content.aspx?Page=radwin_2000_series 200 Mbps throughput (40 MHz Channel) Native

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Mike Hammett
I've personally seen someone doing about 98/20. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/30/2010 10:05 PM, RickG wrote: UBNT is great for the price but a bit shy of 100Mbps: Test Results RX: 33.08 Mbps TX: 33.77 Mbps Total: 66.85 Mbps On

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm doing about 25 miles and haven't had a chance to tune the far end antenna. I'm passing several megs. I have the modulation turned way down until I have a chance to stabilize the link. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/30/2010 11:02 PM, Mark

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Chuck Hogg
We have asked, and were told that they don't see enough traffic coming from our ASN. Is there someone else we can contact? Regards, Chuck On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: I have helped a wisp get this with 700 customers and about 30mbps I have helped

Re: [WISPA] Mediacomm contact

2010-08-31 Thread Mike Hammett
Christine Montalvo [cmonta...@mediacomcc.com] - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/31/2010 6:34 AM, Mike wrote: Does anyone have a good contact at Mediacomm they'd share with me? Thanks. Friendly Regards, Mike Mike Gilchrist Disruptive

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Mike Hammett
How much are you passing to them? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/31/2010 7:18 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: We have asked, and were told that they don't see enough traffic coming from our ASN. Is there someone else we can contact? Regards, Chuck

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 30 August 2010 12:07, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Whats the IP’s to block so my customers can’t use Netflix and Hulu. So you are no longer going to be an Internet provider, and instead just be a Hotmail and CNN.com provider?

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Jeremy Parr
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Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Robert West
I have the EXACT same setup at 12 miles pushing a rock steady 52 at a -72 and 20mhz channel width. Been up since January. And it's not a perfect link, skims the tops of trees all the way. Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Robert West
I wouldn't use a Nano anything for a long link. The gain is minimal for a link like that anyhow. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Dueck Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 12:18 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Robert West
Depends on the equipment but the rule of thumb I always was told was to power it up only long enough to disable the radio unless you are using loads. If you don't load the radio and run it long enough, it will indeed be damaged. I have various examples of that laying around from where uf/l

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Robert West
Lack of experience. We've all been there. Big learning curve, I've had those moments in the beginning. That's when if something worked, it was MAGIC! :) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups

2010-08-31 Thread Phil Curnutt
I have found that happening most often on radio's that are daisy chained, especially older ones. Luckily as most of our radio's are on the roof's of members there is someone there to power cycle them, or a call to some one on the other side of it to power cycle it through the on site power

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Chuck Hogg
I really don't know...we haven't tracked it. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: How much are you passing to them? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/31/2010 7:18 AM, Chuck Hogg

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups

2010-08-31 Thread Mark Dueck
That confirms my feeling. I've noticed that there was a much higher chance it would crash if there was a lot of traffic. Some of these radios are fairly new and not daisy chained. I'll work towards replacing all critical backhaul links to UBNT or MT. On 08/31/2010 06:51 AM, Phil Curnutt

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 8/31/2010 09:00 AM, Robert West wrote: Depends on the equipment but the rule of thumb I always was told was to power it up only long enough to disable the radio unless you are using loads. If you don't load the radio and run it long enough, it will indeed be damaged. I have various examples

[WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due Sept. 1st

2010-08-31 Thread Rick Harnish
This is the final reminder that FCC Form 477 is due tomorrow. All broadband service providers, (telecommunications, cable, and broadband over power line providers) must report broadband services by census tract, type of technology, and upload and download speeds on the FCC's Form 477. The Form

[WISPA] Fw: From Homeland Security morning report

2010-08-31 Thread Blake Bowers
August 27, WINK 9 Fort Meyers - (Florida) 2 charged with stealing copper wire from Collier County tower. Information sharing between law enforcement agencies and detective work in Collier County, Florida, helped lead to the arrests of two men - including a career criminal - on multiple

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Blake Covarrubias
Emailed Akamai last night. Got a response back today saying we're pulling an average of 19mbps from them, and do not meet the minimum requirement of 75mbps required to qualify for the Accelerated Network Partner program. -- Blake Covarrubias On Aug 31, 2010, at 6:27 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: I

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Nick Olsen
Emailed them this morning, I figure we will get a similar response. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:57 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread MDK
But that's close in. Throughput falls drastically as the distance goes up. Even when the radio rates stay up, throughput falls. I have an 11 mile p2p link in production now. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
On 8/31/2010 11:44 AM, MDK wrote: Even when the radio rates stay up, throughput falls. Haven't seen that. There are some issues as such due to alignment, firmware and Ack settings... that affect all links, medium range long range. To get to higher end of the throughput / over the air

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Mike Hammett
Is this just to have their servers on your network or to BGP peer with them? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/31/2010 9:56 AM, Blake Covarrubias wrote: Emailed Akamai last night. Got a response back today saying we're pulling an average of

[WISPA] I-80 Dark fiber

2010-08-31 Thread Mike Hammett
Some of you already know about this, but I would like to pipe up again about a buy in opportunity on some new dark fiber construction from Chicago to New York. Too much for any one WISP, but maybe those of you along the I-80 corridor (it's actually on train track right of way) would be

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] FCC Form 477 Due Sept. 1st

2010-08-31 Thread Josh Luthman
If anyone using Powercode has yet to do this or is working on this today let me know. I have some instructions that will save you some time. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Rick Harnish

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups

2010-08-31 Thread Steve Barnes
I have 400+ Tranzeo CPQ's out and never have an issue with them not rebooting after a change. However I would never use a Tranzeo for an AP. Mikrotik AP to Tranzeo = stability and control. More info please: Models, Firmware, AP connecting to. (did you know there is a Tranzeo list on the

Re: [WISPA] I-80 Dark fiber

2010-08-31 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff
On 8/31/2010 11:58 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Some of you already know about this, but I would like to pipe up again about a buy in opportunity on some new dark fiber construction from Chicago to New York. Too much for any one WISP, but maybe those of you along the I-80 corridor (it's actually

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] FCC Form 477 Due Sept. 1st **OFFLIST**

2010-08-31 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
We are using Powercode... - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: memb...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] FCC Form 477 Due Sept. 1st If anyone using Powercode has yet

Re: [WISPA] RB1100

2010-08-31 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
I have the RB1000 and 1100s in production here as core routers (450G, 750G, 493AH's as tower-site routers, OSPF back to the core RB1x00s). Transitioning all our customers to them (about half done). Been stable so far, aside from my configuration screw-ups. Our only x86 device is running our

Re: [WISPA] UPS with IP

2010-08-31 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
I second this. We had been using Belkin consumer UPS' because of their physical dimensions, but we've been changing them out for APC 750 and 1500s with SNMP where ever we reasonably can. Get ours new through Ingram Micro. -Paul On Aug 18, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Mark Nash wrote: I usually buy APC

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Tom DeReggi
Its also relevent to mention that there are multiple Akamai Server configs. A basic server config only stores some of the Internet content in its cache. Much larger cache servers are needed, for more effective caching. What volume is needed to get equivlent cache performance as Comcast Verizon?

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
Our TOS is written in such that we can regulate them if they are interfering with other customers. Our problem isn't upstream bandwidth, but the wireless network (in places). We need to use Trango 900s in places, hard to educate people that their using netflix ruins the internet for X number of

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
WAIT... Is it even legal to block IP addresses??? If it is.. why dont you just block the whole domain alias??? On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Paul Gerstenberger pa...@hrec.coop wrote: Our TOS is written in such that we can regulate them if they are interfering with other customers. Our

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Is it even legal to block IP addresses??? I don't think there are any laws on it at this point. It's like ESPN's service - the default policy is to block but there is an accept policy for those that pay. If it is.. why dont you just block the whole domain alias??? Lots of overhead, lots of DNS

Re: [WISPA] Mediacomm contact

2010-08-31 Thread Robert Kim App and Facebook Marketing
Mike, also see: http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1SKPC_enUS342US342sourceid=chromeie=UTF-8q=site:twitter.com+mediacomm#num=100hl=enrlz=1C1SKPC_enUS342US342q=site%3Atwitter.com++%22mediacomcc%22aq=faqi=aql=oq=gs_rfai=pbx=1fp=728ef3750cf3a29c On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:20 AM, Mike Hammett

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread David E. Smith
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:51, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor evdo.hs...@gmail.com wrote: WAIT... Is it even legal to block IP addresses??? Your network, your rules. Legally, you can probably block whatever you want. Doing so without informing your users (customers, for ISPs) is

Re: [WISPA] Mediacomm contact

2010-08-31 Thread Josh Luthman
I can see it now... @mediacomm hey i wuld liek 2do biz w u n im lookn for a good contct Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Robert Kim App and Facebook Marketing evdo.hs...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, also

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 8/31/2010 01:51 PM, Robert Kim wrote: WAIT... Is it even legal to block IP addresses??? If it is.. why dont you just block the whole domain alias??? Thankfully, there is no net neutrality rule preventing this. ISPs always block IP addresses. Spammers' address blocks, and ISPs who tolerate

Re: [WISPA] Mediacomm contact

2010-08-31 Thread Mike Hammett
It worked for me with DirecTV. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/31/2010 1:15 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I can see it now... @mediacomm hey i wuld liek 2do biz w u n im lookn for a good contct Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Emailed 2 of the customers that were doing this. The one called back real nice and apologized. Said their kid was letting the Netflix on the Nintendo WII run while they were outside riding their bike! They said they will stop it. 2nd customer never got back with me, their service has now been rate

[WISPA] Classified Ads

2010-08-31 Thread Rick Harnish
We are finally starting to get some traction on the Classified Ads Page http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2297 . There are three postings in the last 24 hours. There is no cost to post on this page, image size must be below 150K. Thanks, Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Marco Coelho
Many radios can be damaged by transmitting with no load. You have to look up each one. It's always safer to have either a dummy load or antenna connected. mc On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: I know. I had trazeo FDD radios that other guys had prepared

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
When I googled the issue some months back, I saw a post about blocking the IP for the netflix DRM server. That would resolve most the issues by preventing the DRM authentication, and as a result, the movie from streaming. But I couldn't get it didn't work reliably. Maybe time to revisit that

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Tom DeReggi
OK, so should we be doing DNS redirecting. Redirect hulu.com to allowvideo.com for $9.95 Shopping Cart item. Alacart content? Its no different than Microsoft Windows XP, being allowed to bundle Iexplorer and MSN with WindowsOS, as long as they included signup links for downloading and

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Why not bandwidth shape them down to something reasonable? I find 1.1~1.2mbit for netflix and it looks fine. they will each 5mbit if you let it. This keeps things pretty manageable here.b On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: OK, so should we be doing DNS

Re: [WISPA] Classified Ads

2010-08-31 Thread Rick Harnish
I need some page layout help on the classified section. Anyone good with WordPress and PHP give me a shout. I want the ads to show at the top of the page instead of the bottom and thus far, the forum has been little help to me. Thanks, Rick From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups

2010-08-31 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
If you are using Tranzeo TR5a, 49a or AP6000 series radios running in PtP mode on an all bridged network, they will lock up. Newer firmware helps, but does not completely resolve this problem. I ran in to this very problem recently while troubleshooting a client's network. It may not be

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread MDK
As the distances go up, the longer it takes for the packet to be transmitted from one point to another, and the round trip time grows, which reduces the throughput. My experience is, that it would be all but impossible to do two parallel links in 5 ghz with UBNT stuff, as the antennas are not

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Bret Clark
On 08/31/2010 06:02 PM, MDK wrote: As the distances go up, the longer it takes for the packet to be transmitted from one point to another, and the round trip time grows, which reduces the throughput. That doesn't sound right to me...radio waves travel at the speed of light. There is some

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Jerry Richardson
Good idea. All my models fail. I simply can't charge enough to justify it. The lack of spectrum is the limiter. Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Aug 31, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: OK, so should we be doing DNS redirecting. Redirect hulu.com to

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Jeremie Chism
Under 3mb causes alot of complaints due to repeated buffeting. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Why not bandwidth shape them down to something reasonable? I find 1.1~1.2mbit for netflix and it looks fine. they will each 5mbit if you

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Jason Bailey
My customers that run 1Mb down use it and have no trouble?Excessive bursting,then throttling will cause rebuffering after initial burst i have found. --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's To:

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
I beg to differ with this logic, applying to UBNT only... While generically it is true about the separation... if your logic were true about in-sufficient isolation... then we would not be able to operate a full POP, where there are three Sector Panels and a 2ft Dish, all within the same

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Jeremie Chism
I meant to say this comment referred to hulu not netflix Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: My customers that run 1Mb down use it and have no trouble?Excessive bursting,then throttling will cause rebuffering after initial burst i have

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups

2010-08-31 Thread Patrick Leary
Just as an FYI folks, After seeing this thread I sent it to the Tranzeo guys and they taking a look at it. Please do, when you encounter issues such as these, report them to your vendor (regardless of brand). Getting a record, finding trends, etc. is the only way a vendor can uncover issues,

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups

2010-08-31 Thread Phil Curnutt
Gee, who'd think to ask the manufacturer. Phil On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com wrote: Just as an FYI folks, After seeing this thread I sent it to the Tranzeo guys and they taking a look at it. Please do, when you encounter issues such as these, report

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Yea hulu is hungry. Netflix has a much better codec. I would love it if WISPA could work some kind of deal with netflix so that we could offer netflix for 'free' with a specific package. If they charge 8.99 I can see some kind of package deal along with one of the caching server setups. With the

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Blair Davis
Yes. That is why we have ACK time settings in 802.11 radios. Greg Ihnen wrote: At near the speed of light is the distance of a 20~40 miles really a factor? Greg On Aug 31, 2010, at 5:32 PM, MDK wrote: As the distances go up, the longer it takes for the packet to be transmitted

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups

2010-08-31 Thread Mark Dueck
Thanks Patrick; I was thinking about doing that too. On 08/31/2010 08:25 PM, Patrick Leary wrote: Just as an FYI folks, After seeing this thread I sent it to the Tranzeo guys and they taking a look at it. Please do, when you encounter issues such as these, report them to your vendor

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Nick Olsen
Yeah, They got back to me today. Said over the last 30 days we have a 9Mb/s avg. And 75mb/s is required. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:57 AM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups

2010-08-31 Thread Mark Dueck
I have to agree that I've never seen this with the client radios. All my radios are up-to-date firmware. Will look into the Tranzeo list for next time. On 08/31/2010 09:50 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: I have 400+ Tranzeo CPQ's out and never have an issue with them not rebooting after a change.

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Nick Olsen
I think the big thing here is the way they do video. Hulu, has like 3 quality settings. And you set them. Atleast with the desktop app, The flash on the pages will try to autoselect. Netflix is much more in depth. It just picks what works, With the ability to go WAY down on bitrate. When I had

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Yup I bet it could. Ive seen 2 of them at the same time max out a 15mbit pipe. That lasted about as long as it took to re-enable the bw queues. Still a dozen or so and the eat the entire pipe and i knock em down a tad more, but under 900kbit and it seams to choke up. After moving to Ubnt M gear,

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Nick Olsen
Yeah, Loop fee's are the killer. On-net bandwidth is cheap bandwidth. I've seen cogent come down to $3 per megabit. And I've heard of Hurricane electric going as low as 75 cents per megabit. Just got to build out to them. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Jeromie Reeves
The prob;lem I ran into with building out to them is they want those loop fees for entering the fiber huts + a break in fee. I have someone who says he can get me into a place with out much if any fee, at $20/mbit. We will see. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Nick Olsen

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-31 Thread Robert West
E P I C ! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Fred Goldstein Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. At 8/31/2010 09:00 AM, Robert West

Re: [WISPA] UPS with IP

2010-08-31 Thread Robert West
Sadly. My last UPS I built was from parts pulled outta the dumpster behind the local defunct Gold Star Chili Store. Salvaged the EXIT sign. 2 6v batteries and charging/switch board. I live a strange life. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org