http://www.mimosa.co/home/b5-page.html
Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr
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From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 7:49:22 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product
I need to get my creed back after some recently stolen FCC announcements! Lol!!
Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netmailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List
What's something like this going to cost? Or is that still a highly guarded
secret? :)
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
http://www.mimosa.co/home/b5-page.html
Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
*nods* Well, some of us already knew all of the information on those pages...
it's just nice to be able to publicly talk about them now. ;-)
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
The connectorized version was less than the AF5, though you would obviously
need to add antennas. I'd recommend the Jirous ones.
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net
To:
Of all the distributors listed on their web site…. No one is carrying them yet.
anyone know a cost on these?
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 8:02 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA]
Joe Adair
Pricing details will be officially released in our press release at 8am PST, on
our website www.mimosa.cohttp://www.mimosa.co, and products on display at the
Streakwave Building Bridges event in San Francisco starting tomorrow.
2 more hours guys!
Cheers!
Jaime Fink • Mimosa •
Have to give them credit on the website. Nice look J
Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Author of Learn RouterOS-
Second Edition http://www.wlan1.com/product_p/mikrotik%20book-2.htm
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270 tel:314-735-0270
Does someone have a contact they've been happy dealing with? Earlier this
year we were cold called by a Cogent rep who was a huge jerk, I'd like to
get an updated quote but don't want to deal with that guy.
Chris Fabien
LakeNet LLC
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Oh dear so more backhauling noise on the 5GHz spectrum?
AF5 + Mimosa
Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312
On 8/5/14, 9:31 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
Have to give them credit on the website. Nice look J
*_Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik
Auto everything? :(
Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312
On 8/5/14, 11:16 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
Oh dear so more backhauling noise on the 5GHz spectrum?
AF5 + Mimosa
Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
Mimosa is the best looking 5 GHz backhaul out there now.
What's your beef with the Mimosa?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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- Original Message -
From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
It does say that manual control is available for those that would rather have
that.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent:
I didn't want to be negative nelly this morning. But that was my thought
also..
I'm moving as much as possible to licensed links because I can't hardly
keep my 5Ghz PtP's running out of my data center.
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
wrote:
Oh dear
Just more 5GHz being chewed up on backahuls.
I thought Mimosa was coming out with another frequency :(
Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312
On 8/5/14, 11:18 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Mimosa is the best looking 5 GHz backhaul out there now.
What's
Rather have that != general population.
Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312
On 8/5/14, 11:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
It does say that manual control is available for those that would rather
have that.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent
They can't use another frequency until the FCC makes it available.
It's better than whatever is currently out there simply by getting more done in
less spectrum.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Matt Hoppes
There seems to be stuff in there that simply isn't feasible manually.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 5,
This is the e-mail we sent to ALL of our users to help support the 5.7 band:
Please send something similar to your users.
Dear argontech.net user,
*END OF RURAL HIGH SPEED INTERNET POSSIBLE*
The FCC has approved a change to the system requirements for the 5.7 GHz
Microwave Radio Bands that we
Jamie,
First off, congratulations. I know it has been a long time coming.
I see the product was certified under 15.407 rules. Could you post a spec
sheet as if it were approved under the 15.247 rules, so everyone can see the
impact the rule change has on range?
I love to see excitement
Chris,
Phil Davis
Global Account Manager
pbda...@cogentco.com
(202) 295-4347
Good luck!
Ian Framson
Sales Director
[image: Trade Show Internet logo]
http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tradeshowinternet.com
www.tradeshowinternet.com
Thanks Guys.
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Ian Framson i...@tradeshowinternet.com
wrote:
Chris,
Phil Davis
Global Account Manager
pbda...@cogentco.com
(202) 295-4347
Good luck!
Ian Framson
Sales Director
[image: Trade Show Internet logo]
On 8/5/2014 11:21 AM, Adair Winter wrote:
I didn't want to be negative nelly this morning. But that was my
thought also..
I'm moving as much as possible to licensed links because I can't
hardly keep my 5Ghz PtP's running out of my data center.
The 5 GHz band is getting quite crowded, but at
From a TechCrunch article:
The B5 backhaul radio is a piece of hardware that uses multiple-input and
multiple-output (MIMO) technology to provide up to 16 streams and 4 Gbps of
output when multiple radios are using the same channel.
Now I wonder if that is four radios on the same path? If
Our sales guy has been excellent and very fast to respond to any questions.
Michael Patnode
mpatn...@cogentco.com
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:
Thanks Guys.
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Ian Framson i...@tradeshowinternet.com
wrote:
Chris,
And UBNT's ;-)
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Rick Harnish ri...@wispa.org wrote:
Jamie,
First off, congratulations. I know it has been a long time coming.
I see the product was certified under 15.407 rules. Could you post a spec
sheet as if it were approved under the 15.247 rules,
where is price on this? cant find it on website
Sent from my iPhone
Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110
On Aug 5, 2014, at 9:10 AM, Jaime Fink ja...@mimosa.co wrote:
Joe Adair
Pricing details
They'll announce it...
Pricing details will be officially released in our press release at 8am PST,
on our website www.mimosa.co, and products on display at the Streakwave
Building Bridges event in San Francisco starting tomorrow.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100
Absolutely Ben, I hope UBNT does the same with your recent new equipment
announcements! :)
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Ben Moore
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 12:44 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New
http://ec2-54-90-168-54.compute-1.amazonaws.com/news/16/78/Mimosa-Networks-Unveils-First-Products-in-Cloud-to-Client-Internet-Access-Ecosystem/d,flat-blog-detail.html
The B5 Backhaul radio is available for order in two versions – an
antenna-integrated 5 GHz backhaul radio (B5); and a
On 8/5/2014 11:34 AM, Rick Harnish wrote:
Jamie,
First off, congratulations. I know it has been a long time coming.
I see the product was certified under 15.407 rules. Could you post a
spec sheet as if it were approved under the 15.247 rules, so everyone
can see the impact the rule change
Thanks Rick, and Fred for the numbers!
First and foremost please everyone get your comments in to the FCC on the
petitions.
Simply put there is a big impact to max possible output versus the new OOBE
impacts of 15.407. We’re about to publish a new paper with specific examples
later this week,
is that price per link or per radio
Sent from my iPhone
Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110
On Aug 5, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Brett Woollum br...@tekify.com wrote:
Are you sure we don't need an NDA to buy one?
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote:
is that price per link or per radio
Sent from my iPhone
Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel.
You see what I see. I imagine that is per side (per radio).
Brett Woollum
Senior Sales Engineer
br...@tekify.com
Tekify Broadband Internet Services
Web: http://www.tekify.com
Phone: 510-266-5800 , ext 6200
- Original Message -
From: Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com
To: WISPA
Mike,
Definitely wanted to clarify on your question/comment on colocation capacities
for the group.
For the B5 backhaul PTP technology, colocation is in separate directional
paths, so 4 of the B5s can be colocated sharing the same channels, but must be
directionally coordinated, this
Mike,
Definitely wanted to clarify on your question/comment on colocation capacities
for the group.
For the B5 backhaul PTP technology, colocation is in separate directional
paths, so 4 of the B5s can be colocated sharing the same channels, but must be
directionally coordinated, this
Thanks a bunch!
So then is there a hard limit of 4 radios per location or is that just best you
could do with the integrated antenna model?
Must there be an even distribution (every 90*)? I assume not, so what's the
minimum isolation?
If I had 6' super high performance dishes, could I put
4 for the same channel is our general recommendation for the integrated
antenna, angles will vary based on link power/distances, worst case is about 85
+/- 5 degrees, if we're going for max performance.
That doesn't limit colocation on the tower at 4, that number can go up of
course in
Jamie,
We're incredibly excited by your announcement, and eagerly await PtMP ;)
Josh Reynolds, CIO
SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com
On 08/05/2014 11:30 AM, Jaime Fink wrote:
4 for the same channel is our general recommendation for the
integrated antenna, angles will vary based on link
*nods* Thank you much for the information.
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: Jaime Fink ja...@mimosa.co
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 2:30:46 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA]
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From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released
Good stuff!
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
wrote:
*nods* Thank you much for the information.
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
Wait... whut?
Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312
On 8/5/14, 3:36 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
Jamie,
We're incredibly excited by your announcement, and eagerly await PtMP ;)
Josh Reynolds, CIO
SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com
On 08/05/2014
What are you whating?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 3:08:12 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mimosa
The PtMP.
Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312
On 8/5/14, 4:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
What are you whating?
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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You're... out of the loop.
Josh Reynolds, CIO
SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com
On 08/05/2014 12:09 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
The PtMP.
Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312
On 8/5/14, 4:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
What are you whating?
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For some reason they tried to keep this whole company and product under
wraps more than everything else. Dunno why, it's not like one couldn't
figure it out or pick it up from the intended secrecy.
At least it worked for one person =P
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100
Funny thing is, Mimosa was already hard at work on an idea I
brainstormed about in July :)
http://community.ubnt.com/t5/The-Lounge/Brainstorming-Maximizing-frequency-capacity-radio-system/m-p/899722#M32941
Josh Reynolds, CIO
SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com
On 08/05/2014 12:20 PM, Josh Luthman
I still can't find it either? Anyone else find the pricing?
On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:23 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote:
where is price on this? cant find it on website
Sent from my iPhone
Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
Wait until tomorrow
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote:
I still can't find it either? Anyone else find the pricing?
On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:23 PM, Kurt
+1. I swear it only took us a month to implement your great idea ;) Alas good
ideas do take time.
The trick Josh that we found was that it’s incredibly difficult to change
channels fast enough and settle on the usual Wi-Fi chips which have limited
driver access, often taking over 10
Or read any of the links that have been pasted in the thread...
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com, WISPA General List
Constant spectral analysis was something I asked UBNT about awhile back
for AirOS and UniFi... Cisco does something similar. I guess in the
easy method it would doubles the chip cost in some cases, but it's
very valuable to have this info for WISPs and people deploying
high-density solutions.
I see the advertised speeds of over 1gps, but I assume that is with 80mhz
channels. What can we expect from a 20 or 40mhz channel size?
Also, you mentioned that you can have up to 4 Colocated antennas using the
same frequency. What if they are on different towers, but the towers can
see each
Hi Jason,
Here are links where you can see pricing and place an order. The listed prices
are per radio not per link.
Double Radius:
http://www.doubleradius.com/store.html?manufacturer=576
Streakwave:
B5: http://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=B5eq=Tp=
2x 80 MHz channels. Well, just divide by 2 however many times to get however
many channels at whatever channel size.
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: Elton Wilson el...@alohabroadband.net
To: WISPA General
If you use their cloud based link planner, it will tell you the answer
to your first question :P
2x80MHz - 975Mbps
2x40MHz - 487.5Mbps
2x20MHz - 243.75Mbps
1x80MHz - 487.5Mbps
1x40MHz - 243.75Mbps
1x20MHz - 121.875Mbps
Josh Reynolds, CIO
SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com
On 08/05/2014 01:25 PM,
Josh,
TDMA modes (whether collocated or not) are configurable in window size with
between 2, 4 or 8 ms latencies depending on your traffic profile preferences.
You can’t really use a second chip for monitoring in backhaul/parabolic
products if it’s not connected up to the primary antenna or so
Thanks for the info on the latency.
Can you comment about Mimosa antenna designs for PtP and/or PtMP at this
time?
I see the beamwidth for the integrated radio. What about other antenna
specs for it? Shielding?
Josh Reynolds, CIO
SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com
On 08/05/2014 01:33 PM, Jaime
Polar plots and 3D animated renders on the specifications page for the B5, as
well as FTB and and Cross Polar Isolation.
http://www.mimosa.co/home/b5-page/overview-b5-backhaul/specifications.html
Jaime
On Aug 5, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Josh Reynolds
j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com
Close Mike.
The link planning tool at http://cloud.mimosa.co simulates this info best and
lets you adjust your channel widths, the math is not exactly divide by 2 as the
wireless PHY is actually 1.7 Gbps capable which gets above 1 Gbps by a bit, the
tool has the IP throughput conversions in
I meant if you're doing ~1 gig at 2x 80 MHz, then 1x 80 MHz would be ~500 meg
and 1x 40 MHz would be ~250. Just using round numbers and whole divisions as
they're good enough. Josh actually pulled the numbers, though.
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Congratulation Jaime. The B5 products look to be excellent, and it is good to
see WISPA discussions about advanced techniques like 4x MIMO spatial
multiplexing and MU-MIMO. Too often the focus is more spectrum, not about how
to leverage technology to use much more efficiently what spectrum
*nods* I beat on my vendors regularly for support of such things. ;-)
We're likely to get much further doing this sort of thing than whatever we get
at the FCC.
Cost effective platforms + advanced antenna\radio technologies are going to be
the winner.
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Intelligent
Eton, on your other question on GPS sync.
The GPS is network wide, A/B sync group tower configurations, so there’s no
issue with hidden tower problems as long as you coordinate them (A’s in the
same channel talk to B’s in the same channel) . They all time off the same
accurate source, we
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gurmZ2nJru0e87DZuGxfipTB326NiPOTkLXNIXBDfdc/edit?usp=sharing
submit comments for approval / additions please
I'm waiting back on UBNT to help further fill in the chart, and some of
it I'm lazy on.
TODO: For sure, add bandwidth / distance / modulation /
They advertise 1 million, IIRC.
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 5:16:39 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Mimosa
I agree
FWIW, I'm working on a comparison chart of AF5 vs BS-160 right now :P
Josh Reynolds, CIO
SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com
On 08/05/2014 01:55 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
*nods* I beat on my vendors regularly for support of such things. ;-)
We're likely to get much further doing this sort
That should be interesting...
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:
I agree
FWIW, I'm working on a comparison chart of AF5 vs BS-160 right now :P
Josh Reynolds, CIO
SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com
On 08/05/2014 01:55 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
*nods*
...MU-MIMO = multiuser MIMO, not multiuse MIMO...excuse the typo
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 5:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
http://www.mimosa.co/home/b5-page.html
How to operate an outdoor radio with 4 spatial streams with dual-polarized
antennas ? It seems I'm missing something...
Rubens
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