[WISPA] Moto ap300
Anyone have any experience with the Moto AP300 product and the management switch? I am looking for something to setup an overlay of wireless in a hotel, about 40-50 radios, that need to have some sort of management controller for the radios. I do have hard wire connections in each place I am going to locate a radio, so meshing is not needed. Thanks for any help.. http://www.aerowire.net Alan Long Director of Network Operations Aerowire http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=687+North+Dean+Roadcsz=Aubu rn%2C+AL+36830country=us 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 mailto:alan.l...@aerowire.net alan.l...@aerowire.net tel: mobile: http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=3342759998E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 3342759998 http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=336092E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 336092 https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=30065206883src=client_sig_212_1_card_joini nvite=1=en Always have my latest info http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_card_sig=en Want a signature like this? image001.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Need some quick trango help
Hi All, Got a strange one here. I have a 5830 AP with 4 customers on it. 3 have no complaints, 1 gets 300 to 400k downloads and 1000 to 3000 uploads. All links are less than one mile and are within 1/4 mile of each other. Two are right across the street from each other. Yesterday we had a few strange things happen so I went hunting for the cause. While looking I noticed customer B was my top bandwidth user and he stayed there for at least 30 minutes. As a part of trying to get customer A working better I thought I'd try turning off customer B (across the street and on the same AP as customer A). I shut down customer B (oh yeah, all CPE are Fox SE 5800) and ran a speed test at customer A. Now they got 6000 down and 5000 up. Turn customer B back on and customer A went back down to unusable service. Here's the strange part, I can run the same speed test at customer B and they get good speeds all of the time. 8000 to 9000 down, 7000 to 8000 up. Theoretical max on the Trango system. So I don't think that they are causing this problem due to steady usage. The only thing that's popping out in my mind is that customer B has a newer radio (it was replaced last year or so). Could this somehow be a firmware issue? Neither customer has a programmed preference over the other one at the AP level. The other two customers on the AP haven't called with problems. If anyone can call me with some advice this am I'd sure appreciate it. 509.988.0260 Customer A (the nearly dead one) has a big project due this afternoon and I'm at a loss so far. Thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] BGP Question
IS there any way to verify on a Router the Advertisements received from a peer? in Mikrotik? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
Replace the radio and see what it does. That's the easiest way to see what the problem is. Travis Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Hi All, Got a strange one here. I have a 5830 AP with 4 customers on it. 3 have no complaints, 1 gets 300 to 400k downloads and 1000 to 3000 uploads. All links are less than one mile and are within 1/4 mile of each other. Two are right across the street from each other. Yesterday we had a few strange things happen so I went hunting for the cause. While looking I noticed customer B was my top bandwidth user and he stayed there for at least 30 minutes. As a part of trying to get customer A working better I thought I'd try turning off customer B (across the street and on the same AP as customer A). I shut down customer B (oh yeah, all CPE are Fox SE 5800) and ran a speed test at customer A. Now they got 6000 down and 5000 up. Turn customer B back on and customer A went back down to unusable service. Here's the strange part, I can run the same speed test at customer B and they get good speeds all of the time. 8000 to 9000 down, 7000 to 8000 up. Theoretical max on the Trango system. So I don't think that they are causing this problem due to steady usage. The only thing that's popping out in my mind is that customer B has a newer radio (it was replaced last year or so). Could this somehow be a firmware issue? Neither customer has a programmed preference over the other one at the AP level. The other two customers on the AP haven't called with problems. If anyone can call me with some advice this am I'd sure appreciate it. 509.988.0260 Customer A (the nearly dead one) has a big project due this afternoon and I'm at a loss so far. Thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
Hi, Just curious. Have you done the SU POWERLEVELING command on the AP? Kelly Shaw Kinex Telecom PO Box 976 Halifax, VA 24558 Desk: 434-476-8800 x2400 Toll Free: 1.888.392.4804 Mobile: 434-579-2113 http://www.kinex.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi All, Got a strange one here. I have a 5830 AP with 4 customers on it. 3 have no complaints, 1 gets 300 to 400k downloads and 1000 to 3000 uploads. All links are less than one mile and are within 1/4 mile of each other. Two are right across the street from each other. Yesterday we had a few strange things happen so I went hunting for the cause. While looking I noticed customer B was my top bandwidth user and he stayed there for at least 30 minutes. As a part of trying to get customer A working better I thought I'd try turning off customer B (across the street and on the same AP as customer A). I shut down customer B (oh yeah, all CPE are Fox SE 5800) and ran a speed test at customer A. Now they got 6000 down and 5000 up. Turn customer B back on and customer A went back down to unusable service. Here's the strange part, I can run the same speed test at customer B and they get good speeds all of the time. 8000 to 9000 down, 7000 to 8000 up. Theoretical max on the Trango system. So I don't think that they are causing this problem due to steady usage. The only thing that's popping out in my mind is that customer B has a newer radio (it was replaced last year or so). Could this somehow be a firmware issue? Neither customer has a programmed preference over the other one at the AP level. The other two customers on the AP haven't called with problems. If anyone can call me with some advice this am I'd sure appreciate it. 509.988.0260 Customer A (the nearly dead one) has a big project due this afternoon and I'm at a loss so far. Thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
Is the customer set to Reg or PR in the AP? We've seen similar problems and switching from Reg to PR fixed this very same problem. -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Replace the radio and see what it does. That's the easiest way to see what the problem is. Travis Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Hi All, Got a strange one here. I have a 5830 AP with 4 customers on it. 3 have no complaints, 1 gets 300 to 400k downloads and 1000 to 3000 uploads. All links are less than one mile and are within 1/4 mile of each other. Two are right across the street from each other. Yesterday we had a few strange things happen so I went hunting for the cause. While looking I noticed customer B was my top bandwidth user and he stayed there for at least 30 minutes. As a part of trying to get customer A working better I thought I'd try turning off customer B (across the street and on the same AP as customer A). I shut down customer B (oh yeah, all CPE are Fox SE 5800) and ran a speed test at customer A. Now they got 6000 down and 5000 up. Turn customer B back on and customer A went back down to unusable service. Here's the strange part, I can run the same speed test at customer B and they get good speeds all of the time. 8000 to 9000 down, 7000 to 8000 up. Theoretical max on the Trango system. So I don't think that they are causing this problem due to steady usage. The only thing that's popping out in my mind is that customer B has a newer radio (it was replaced last year or so). Could this somehow be a firmware issue? Neither customer has a programmed preference over the other one at the AP level. The other two customers on the AP haven't called with problems. If anyone can call me with some advice this am I'd sure appreciate it. 509.988.0260 Customer A (the nearly dead one) has a big project due this afternoon and I'm at a loss so far. Thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
Good call. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Shaw Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:12 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi, Just curious. Have you done the SU POWERLEVELING command on the AP? Kelly Shaw Kinex Telecom PO Box 976 Halifax, VA 24558 Desk: 434-476-8800 x2400 Toll Free: 1.888.392.4804 Mobile: 434-579-2113 http://www.kinex.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi All, Got a strange one here. I have a 5830 AP with 4 customers on it. 3 have no complaints, 1 gets 300 to 400k downloads and 1000 to 3000 uploads. All links are less than one mile and are within 1/4 mile of each other. Two are right across the street from each other. Yesterday we had a few strange things happen so I went hunting for the cause. While looking I noticed customer B was my top bandwidth user and he stayed there for at least 30 minutes. As a part of trying to get customer A working better I thought I'd try turning off customer B (across the street and on the same AP as customer A). I shut down customer B (oh yeah, all CPE are Fox SE 5800) and ran a speed test at customer A. Now they got 6000 down and 5000 up. Turn customer B back on and customer A went back down to unusable service. Here's the strange part, I can run the same speed test at customer B and they get good speeds all of the time. 8000 to 9000 down, 7000 to 8000 up. Theoretical max on the Trango system. So I don't think that they are causing this problem due to steady usage. The only thing that's popping out in my mind is that customer B has a newer radio (it was replaced last year or so). Could this somehow be a firmware issue? Neither customer has a programmed preference over the other one at the AP level. The other two customers on the AP haven't called with problems. If anyone can call me with some advice this am I'd sure appreciate it. 509.988.0260 Customer A (the nearly dead one) has a big project due this afternoon and I'm at a loss so far. Thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] BGP Question
Yes, but the syntax is a little cumbersome. I had it jotted down somewhere...I'll see if I can find it. Or maybe Butch can pipe in with the correct command/syntax? Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 10:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] BGP Question IS there any way to verify on a Router the Advertisements received from a peer? in Mikrotik? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
If they're fox units I've got $50 that says the ethernet port on it is bad. The last 10 times this happened to me it was always a junk ethernet card. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: Good call. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Shaw Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:12 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi, Just curious. Have you done the SU POWERLEVELING command on the AP? Kelly Shaw Kinex Telecom PO Box 976 Halifax, VA 24558 Desk: 434-476-8800 x2400 Toll Free: 1.888.392.4804 Mobile: 434-579-2113 http://www.kinex.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi All, Got a strange one here. I have a 5830 AP with 4 customers on it. 3 have no complaints, 1 gets 300 to 400k downloads and 1000 to 3000 uploads. All links are less than one mile and are within 1/4 mile of each other. Two are right across the street from each other. Yesterday we had a few strange things happen so I went hunting for the cause. While looking I noticed customer B was my top bandwidth user and he stayed there for at least 30 minutes. As a part of trying to get customer A working better I thought I'd try turning off customer B (across the street and on the same AP as customer A). I shut down customer B (oh yeah, all CPE are Fox SE 5800) and ran a speed test at customer A. Now they got 6000 down and 5000 up. Turn customer B back on and customer A went back down to unusable service. Here's the strange part, I can run the same speed test at customer B and they get good speeds all of the time. 8000 to 9000 down, 7000 to 8000 up. Theoretical max on the Trango system. So I don't think that they are causing this problem due to steady usage. The only thing that's popping out in my mind is that customer B has a newer radio (it was replaced last year or so). Could this somehow be a firmware issue? Neither customer has a programmed preference over the other one at the AP level. The other two customers on the AP haven't called with problems. If anyone can call me with some advice this am I'd sure appreciate it. 509.988.0260 Customer A (the nearly dead one) has a big project due this afternoon and I'm at a loss so far. Thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
Not lately. But I did power cycle the AP yesterday. I thought that the power leveling command happened automatically at startup. I'll go try it though. marlon - Original Message - From: Kelly Shaw kelly-li...@pure.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi, Just curious. Have you done the SU POWERLEVELING command on the AP? Kelly Shaw Kinex Telecom PO Box 976 Halifax, VA 24558 Desk: 434-476-8800 x2400 Toll Free: 1.888.392.4804 Mobile: 434-579-2113 http://www.kinex.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi All, Got a strange one here. I have a 5830 AP with 4 customers on it. 3 have no complaints, 1 gets 300 to 400k downloads and 1000 to 3000 uploads. All links are less than one mile and are within 1/4 mile of each other. Two are right across the street from each other. Yesterday we had a few strange things happen so I went hunting for the cause. While looking I noticed customer B was my top bandwidth user and he stayed there for at least 30 minutes. As a part of trying to get customer A working better I thought I'd try turning off customer B (across the street and on the same AP as customer A). I shut down customer B (oh yeah, all CPE are Fox SE 5800) and ran a speed test at customer A. Now they got 6000 down and 5000 up. Turn customer B back on and customer A went back down to unusable service. Here's the strange part, I can run the same speed test at customer B and they get good speeds all of the time. 8000 to 9000 down, 7000 to 8000 up. Theoretical max on the Trango system. So I don't think that they are causing this problem due to steady usage. The only thing that's popping out in my mind is that customer B has a newer radio (it was replaced last year or so). Could this somehow be a firmware issue? Neither customer has a programmed preference over the other one at the AP level. The other two customers on the AP haven't called with problems. If anyone can call me with some advice this am I'd sure appreciate it. 509.988.0260 Customer A (the nearly dead one) has a big project due this afternoon and I'm at a loss so far. Thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
No one is set as PR. I'll doublecheck that too though. marlon - Original Message - From: Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Is the customer set to Reg or PR in the AP? We've seen similar problems and switching from Reg to PR fixed this very same problem. -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Replace the radio and see what it does. That's the easiest way to see what the problem is. Travis Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Hi All, Got a strange one here. I have a 5830 AP with 4 customers on it. 3 have no complaints, 1 gets 300 to 400k downloads and 1000 to 3000 uploads. All links are less than one mile and are within 1/4 mile of each other. Two are right across the street from each other. Yesterday we had a few strange things happen so I went hunting for the cause. While looking I noticed customer B was my top bandwidth user and he stayed there for at least 30 minutes. As a part of trying to get customer A working better I thought I'd try turning off customer B (across the street and on the same AP as customer A). I shut down customer B (oh yeah, all CPE are Fox SE 5800) and ran a speed test at customer A. Now they got 6000 down and 5000 up. Turn customer B back on and customer A went back down to unusable service. Here's the strange part, I can run the same speed test at customer B and they get good speeds all of the time. 8000 to 9000 down, 7000 to 8000 up. Theoretical max on the Trango system. So I don't think that they are causing this problem due to steady usage. The only thing that's popping out in my mind is that customer B has a newer radio (it was replaced last year or so). Could this somehow be a firmware issue? Neither customer has a programmed preference over the other one at the AP level. The other two customers on the AP haven't called with problems. If anyone can call me with some advice this am I'd sure appreciate it. 509.988.0260 Customer A (the nearly dead one) has a big project due this afternoon and I'm at a loss so far. Thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
I thought about that too. But if that were the case turning off the other customer's radio should have no effect right? marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help If they're fox units I've got $50 that says the ethernet port on it is bad. The last 10 times this happened to me it was always a junk ethernet card. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: Good call. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Shaw Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:12 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi, Just curious. Have you done the SU POWERLEVELING command on the AP? Kelly Shaw Kinex Telecom PO Box 976 Halifax, VA 24558 Desk: 434-476-8800 x2400 Toll Free: 1.888.392.4804 Mobile: 434-579-2113 http://www.kinex.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi All, Got a strange one here. I have a 5830 AP with 4 customers on it. 3 have no complaints, 1 gets 300 to 400k downloads and 1000 to 3000 uploads. All links are less than one mile and are within 1/4 mile of each other. Two are right across the street from each other. Yesterday we had a few strange things happen so I went hunting for the cause. While looking I noticed customer B was my top bandwidth user and he stayed there for at least 30 minutes. As a part of trying to get customer A working better I thought I'd try turning off customer B (across the street and on the same AP as customer A). I shut down customer B (oh yeah, all CPE are Fox SE 5800) and ran a speed test at customer A. Now they got 6000 down and 5000 up. Turn customer B back on and customer A went back down to unusable service. Here's the strange part, I can run the same speed test at customer B and they get good speeds all of the time. 8000 to 9000 down, 7000 to 8000 up. Theoretical max on the Trango system. So I don't think that they are causing this problem due to steady usage. The only thing that's popping out in my mind is that customer B has a newer radio (it was replaced last year or so). Could this somehow be a firmware issue? Neither customer has a programmed preference over the other one at the AP level. The other two customers on the AP haven't called with problems. If anyone can call me with some advice this am I'd sure appreciate it. 509.988.0260 Customer A (the nearly dead one) has a big project due this afternoon and I'm at a loss so far. Thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:
Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
Oh sorry - I reread it and see there was a second customer/radio - not a second radio in the same spot. Confused with these A and B variables I am. Do you have forwarding groups on for these customers? If you don't need them then definitely leave them all out of any SU to SU groups. Did you try the power leveling yet? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: I thought about that too. But if that were the case turning off the other customer's radio should have no effect right? marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help If they're fox units I've got $50 that says the ethernet port on it is bad. The last 10 times this happened to me it was always a junk ethernet card. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: Good call. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Shaw Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:12 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi, Just curious. Have you done the SU POWERLEVELING command on the AP? Kelly Shaw Kinex Telecom PO Box 976 Halifax, VA 24558 Desk: 434-476-8800 x2400 Toll Free: 1.888.392.4804 Mobile: 434-579-2113 http://www.kinex.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi All, Got a strange one here. I have a 5830 AP with 4 customers on it. 3 have no complaints, 1 gets 300 to 400k downloads and 1000 to 3000 uploads. All links are less than one mile and are within 1/4 mile of each other. Two are right across the street from each other. Yesterday we had a few strange things happen so I went hunting for the cause. While looking I noticed customer B was my top bandwidth user and he stayed there for at least 30 minutes. As a part of trying to get customer A working better I thought I'd try turning off customer B (across the street and on the same AP as customer A). I shut down customer B (oh yeah, all CPE are Fox SE 5800) and ran a speed test at customer A. Now they got 6000 down and 5000 up. Turn customer B back on and customer A went back down to unusable service. Here's the strange part, I can run the same speed test at customer B and they get good speeds all of the time. 8000 to 9000 down, 7000 to 8000 up. Theoretical max on the Trango system. So I don't think that they are causing this problem due to steady usage. The only thing that's popping out in my mind is that customer B has a newer radio (it was replaced last year or so). Could this somehow be a firmware issue? Neither customer has a programmed preference over the other one at the AP level. The other two customers on the AP haven't called with problems. If anyone can call me with some advice this am I'd sure appreciate it. 509.988.0260 Customer A (the nearly dead one) has a big project due this afternoon and I'm at a loss so far. Thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:
Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
Delete both radios out of the sudb and enter them in again. We've had some problems with the 2400 product where their radios don't get the speed that they're supposed to, removing them and adding them back in, with the same CIR/MIR fixes the problem. Out of hundreds of these radios we only have to do this on one every few months. -Kevin On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Kevin Nealkevinsafel...@gmail.com wrote: Delete both radios out of the sudb and enter them in again. We've had some problems with the 2400 product where their radios don't get the speed that they're supposed to, removing them and adding them back in, with the same CIR/MIR fixes the problem. Out of hundreds of these radios we only have to do this on one every few months. -Kevin On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Oh sorry - I reread it and see there was a second customer/radio - not a second radio in the same spot. Confused with these A and B variables I am. Do you have forwarding groups on for these customers? If you don't need them then definitely leave them all out of any SU to SU groups. Did you try the power leveling yet? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: I thought about that too. But if that were the case turning off the other customer's radio should have no effect right? marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help If they're fox units I've got $50 that says the ethernet port on it is bad. The last 10 times this happened to me it was always a junk ethernet card. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: Good call. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Shaw Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:12 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi, Just curious. Have you done the SU POWERLEVELING command on the AP? Kelly Shaw Kinex Telecom PO Box 976 Halifax, VA 24558 Desk: 434-476-8800 x2400 Toll Free: 1.888.392.4804 Mobile: 434-579-2113 http://www.kinex.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi All, Got a strange one here. I have a 5830 AP with 4 customers on it. 3 have no complaints, 1 gets 300 to 400k downloads and 1000 to 3000 uploads. All links are less than one mile and are within 1/4 mile of each other. Two are right across the street from each other. Yesterday we had a few strange things happen so I went hunting for the cause. While looking I noticed customer B was my top bandwidth user and he stayed there for at least 30 minutes. As a part of trying to get customer A working better I thought I'd try turning off customer B (across the street and on the same AP as customer A). I shut down customer B (oh yeah, all CPE are Fox SE 5800) and ran a speed test at customer A. Now they got 6000 down and 5000 up. Turn customer B back on and customer A went back down to unusable service. Here's the strange part, I can run the same speed test at customer B and they get good speeds all of the time. 8000 to 9000 down, 7000 to 8000 up. Theoretical max on the Trango system. So I don't think that they are causing this problem due to steady usage. The only thing that's popping out in my mind is that customer B has a newer radio (it was replaced last year or so). Could this somehow be a firmware issue? Neither customer has a programmed preference over the other one at the AP level. The other two customers on the AP haven't called with problems. If anyone can call me with some advice this am I'd sure appreciate it. 509.988.0260 Customer A (the nearly dead one) has a big project due this afternoon and I'm at a loss so far. Thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
Dozens of Trango 5800 and 5830 things - never seen what Kevin has. I always add a new radio with a new SUID. I never repeat the SUID. If you delete an SU and add a new MAC to the same SU you *MUST* reboot or it will not pass traffic. Personally, I do the CIR and MIR of on every radio, doing the shaping on the router. I have no SU to to SU forwarding at all. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: Delete both radios out of the sudb and enter them in again. We've had some problems with the 2400 product where their radios don't get the speed that they're supposed to, removing them and adding them back in, with the same CIR/MIR fixes the problem. Out of hundreds of these radios we only have to do this on one every few months. -Kevin On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Kevin Nealkevinsafel...@gmail.com wrote: Delete both radios out of the sudb and enter them in again. We've had some problems with the 2400 product where their radios don't get the speed that they're supposed to, removing them and adding them back in, with the same CIR/MIR fixes the problem. Out of hundreds of these radios we only have to do this on one every few months. -Kevin On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Oh sorry - I reread it and see there was a second customer/radio - not a second radio in the same spot. Confused with these A and B variables I am. Do you have forwarding groups on for these customers? If you don't need them then definitely leave them all out of any SU to SU groups. Did you try the power leveling yet? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: I thought about that too. But if that were the case turning off the other customer's radio should have no effect right? marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help If they're fox units I've got $50 that says the ethernet port on it is bad. The last 10 times this happened to me it was always a junk ethernet card. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: Good call. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Shaw Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:12 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi, Just curious. Have you done the SU POWERLEVELING command on the AP? Kelly Shaw Kinex Telecom PO Box 976 Halifax, VA 24558 Desk: 434-476-8800 x2400 Toll Free: 1.888.392.4804 Mobile: 434-579-2113 http://www.kinex.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi All, Got a strange one here. I have a 5830 AP with 4 customers on it. 3 have no complaints, 1 gets 300 to 400k downloads and 1000 to 3000 uploads. All links are less than one mile and are within 1/4 mile of each other. Two are right across the street from each other. Yesterday we had a few strange things happen so I went hunting for the cause. While looking I noticed customer B was my top bandwidth user and he stayed there for at least 30 minutes. As a part of trying to get customer A working better I thought I'd try turning off customer B (across the street and on the same AP as customer A). I shut down customer B (oh yeah, all CPE are Fox SE 5800) and ran a speed test at customer A. Now they got 6000 down and 5000 up. Turn customer B back on and customer A went back down to unusable service. Here's the strange part, I can run the same speed test at customer B and they get good speeds all of the time. 8000 to 9000 down, 7000 to 8000 up. Theoretical max on the Trango system. So I don't think that they are
Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
Even thought it works great once the other customer's radio is powered down? marlon - Original Message - From: Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Delete both radios out of the sudb and enter them in again. We've had some problems with the 2400 product where their radios don't get the speed that they're supposed to, removing them and adding them back in, with the same CIR/MIR fixes the problem. Out of hundreds of these radios we only have to do this on one every few months. -Kevin On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Kevin Nealkevinsafel...@gmail.com wrote: Delete both radios out of the sudb and enter them in again. We've had some problems with the 2400 product where their radios don't get the speed that they're supposed to, removing them and adding them back in, with the same CIR/MIR fixes the problem. Out of hundreds of these radios we only have to do this on one every few months. -Kevin On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Oh sorry - I reread it and see there was a second customer/radio - not a second radio in the same spot. Confused with these A and B variables I am. Do you have forwarding groups on for these customers? If you don't need them then definitely leave them all out of any SU to SU groups. Did you try the power leveling yet? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: I thought about that too. But if that were the case turning off the other customer's radio should have no effect right? marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help If they're fox units I've got $50 that says the ethernet port on it is bad. The last 10 times this happened to me it was always a junk ethernet card. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: Good call. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Shaw Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:12 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi, Just curious. Have you done the SU POWERLEVELING command on the AP? Kelly Shaw Kinex Telecom PO Box 976 Halifax, VA 24558 Desk: 434-476-8800 x2400 Toll Free: 1.888.392.4804 Mobile: 434-579-2113 http://www.kinex.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi All, Got a strange one here. I have a 5830 AP with 4 customers on it. 3 have no complaints, 1 gets 300 to 400k downloads and 1000 to 3000 uploads. All links are less than one mile and are within 1/4 mile of each other. Two are right across the street from each other. Yesterday we had a few strange things happen so I went hunting for the cause. While looking I noticed customer B was my top bandwidth user and he stayed there for at least 30 minutes. As a part of trying to get customer A working better I thought I'd try turning off customer B (across the street and on the same AP as customer A). I shut down customer B (oh yeah, all CPE are Fox SE 5800) and ran a speed test at customer A. Now they got 6000 down and 5000 up. Turn customer B back on and customer A went back down to unusable service. Here's the strange part, I can run the same speed test at customer B and they get good speeds all of the time. 8000 to 9000 down, 7000 to 8000 up. Theoretical max on the Trango system. So I don't think that they are causing this problem due to steady usage. The only thing that's popping out in my mind is that customer B has a newer radio (it was replaced last year or so). Could this somehow be a firmware issue? Neither customer has a programmed preference over the other one at the AP level. The other two customers on the AP haven't called with problems. If anyone can call me with some advice this am I'd sure appreciate it. 509.988.0260 Customer A (the nearly dead one) has a big project due this
Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
Is either one of these customers a new customer? I Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:28:38 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help I thought about that too. But if that were the case turning off the other customer's radio should have no effect right? marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help If they're fox units I've got $50 that says the ethernet port on it is bad. The last 10 times this happened to me it was always a junk ethernet card. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: Good call. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Shaw Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:12 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi, Just curious. Have you done the SU POWERLEVELING command on the AP? Kelly Shaw Kinex Telecom PO Box 976 Halifax, VA 24558 Desk: 434-476-8800 x2400 Toll Free: 1.888.392.4804 Mobile: 434-579-2113 http://www.kinex.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi All, Got a strange one here. I have a 5830 AP with 4 customers on it. 3 have no complaints, 1 gets 300 to 400k downloads and 1000 to 3000 uploads. All links are less than one mile and are within 1/4 mile of each other. Two are right across the street from each other. Yesterday we had a few strange things happen so I went hunting for the cause. While looking I noticed customer B was my top bandwidth user and he stayed there for at least 30 minutes. As a part of trying to get customer A working better I thought I'd try turning off customer B (across the street and on the same AP as customer A). I shut down customer B (oh yeah, all CPE are Fox SE 5800) and ran a speed test at customer A. Now they got 6000 down and 5000 up. Turn customer B back on and customer A went back down to unusable service. Here's the strange part, I can run the same speed test at customer B and they get good speeds all of the time. 8000 to 9000 down, 7000 to 8000 up. Theoretical max on the Trango system. So I don't think that they are causing this problem due to steady usage. The only thing that's popping out in my mind is that customer B has a newer radio (it was replaced last year or so). Could this somehow be a firmware issue? Neither customer has a programmed preference over the other one at the AP level. The other two customers on the AP haven't called with problems. If anyone can call me with some advice this am I'd sure appreciate it. 509.988.0260 Customer A (the nearly dead one) has a big project due this afternoon and I'm at a loss so far. Thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
Especially so... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: Even thought it works great once the other customer's radio is powered down? marlon - Original Message - From: Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Delete both radios out of the sudb and enter them in again. We've had some problems with the 2400 product where their radios don't get the speed that they're supposed to, removing them and adding them back in, with the same CIR/MIR fixes the problem. Out of hundreds of these radios we only have to do this on one every few months. -Kevin On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Kevin Nealkevinsafel...@gmail.com wrote: Delete both radios out of the sudb and enter them in again. We've had some problems with the 2400 product where their radios don't get the speed that they're supposed to, removing them and adding them back in, with the same CIR/MIR fixes the problem. Out of hundreds of these radios we only have to do this on one every few months. -Kevin On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Oh sorry - I reread it and see there was a second customer/radio - not a second radio in the same spot. Confused with these A and B variables I am. Do you have forwarding groups on for these customers? If you don't need them then definitely leave them all out of any SU to SU groups. Did you try the power leveling yet? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: I thought about that too. But if that were the case turning off the other customer's radio should have no effect right? marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help If they're fox units I've got $50 that says the ethernet port on it is bad. The last 10 times this happened to me it was always a junk ethernet card. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: Good call. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Kelly Shaw Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:12 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi, Just curious. Have you done the SU POWERLEVELING command on the AP? Kelly Shaw Kinex Telecom PO Box 976 Halifax, VA 24558 Desk: 434-476-8800 x2400 Toll Free: 1.888.392.4804 Mobile: 434-579-2113 http://www.kinex.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi All, Got a strange one here. I have a 5830 AP with 4 customers on it. 3 have no complaints, 1 gets 300 to 400k downloads and 1000 to 3000 uploads. All links are less than one mile and are within 1/4 mile of each other. Two are right across the street from each other. Yesterday we had a few strange things happen so I went hunting for the cause. While looking I noticed customer B was my top bandwidth user and he stayed there for at least 30 minutes. As a part of trying to get customer A working better I thought I'd try turning off customer B (across the street and on the same AP as customer A). I shut down customer B (oh yeah, all CPE are Fox SE 5800) and ran a speed test at customer A. Now they got 6000 down and 5000 up. Turn customer B back on and customer A went back down to unusable service. Here's the strange part, I can run the same speed test at customer B and they get good speeds all of the time. 8000 to 9000 down, 7000 to 8000 up. Theoretical max on the Trango system. So I don't think that they are causing this problem due to steady usage. The
Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
I have changed all su's from cir of and mir of to cir of 128 and mir of . I got rid of two su to su radios that were pr and got rid of the group they were on (one was a tower backhaul that's no longer there, the other is my office but we're using a new MT setup so I didn't need the su to su anyway). The first test to customer A's radio showed a loop back test of only 66% success in ap to su. The second test showed 93% (the changes above had already been made, go figure). After the power leveling I'm still at 93% success on the loop back test. Strange. Now suid1 is dropping back down to nothing useful. 66% success is all. The only change I made this time was the noise threshold. I moved it up and the % had dropped to 80% so I moved the noise back down to -90 and still dropped to the 66% level. Customer B's radio is suid 8. It's always running at 100%. There are 4 sus total. 1,2,6 and 8. 1 and 2 are the oldest and never run 100% clean. 6 and 8 are the newest ones and run at or very near 100%. I think I'll go upgrade the firmware (I HATE doing that with trango radios, what a goofy old fashioned pita it is) on customer A and see what the latest version does for us. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Oh sorry - I reread it and see there was a second customer/radio - not a second radio in the same spot. Confused with these A and B variables I am. Do you have forwarding groups on for these customers? If you don't need them then definitely leave them all out of any SU to SU groups. Did you try the power leveling yet? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: I thought about that too. But if that were the case turning off the other customer's radio should have no effect right? marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help If they're fox units I've got $50 that says the ethernet port on it is bad. The last 10 times this happened to me it was always a junk ethernet card. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: Good call. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Shaw Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:12 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi, Just curious. Have you done the SU POWERLEVELING command on the AP? Kelly Shaw Kinex Telecom PO Box 976 Halifax, VA 24558 Desk: 434-476-8800 x2400 Toll Free: 1.888.392.4804 Mobile: 434-579-2113 http://www.kinex.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi All, Got a strange one here. I have a 5830 AP with 4 customers on it. 3 have no complaints, 1 gets 300 to 400k downloads and 1000 to 3000 uploads. All links are less than one mile and are within 1/4 mile of each other. Two are right across the street from each other. Yesterday we had a few strange things happen so I went hunting for the cause. While looking I noticed customer B was my top bandwidth user and he stayed there for at least 30 minutes. As a part of trying to get customer A working better I thought I'd try turning off customer B (across the street and on the same AP as customer A). I shut down customer B (oh yeah, all CPE are Fox SE 5800) and ran a speed test at customer A. Now they got 6000 down and 5000 up. Turn customer B back on and customer A went back down to unusable service. Here's the strange part, I can run the same speed test at customer B and they get good speeds all of the time. 8000 to 9000 down, 7000 to 8000 up. Theoretical max on the Trango system. So I don't think that they are causing this problem due to steady usage. The only thing that's popping out in my mind is that customer B has a newer radio (it was replaced last year or so). Could this somehow be a
Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
No. They've been customers for years and years. One of them has a newer radio (replaced last year) though. I think we replaced it due to a dead ethernet port or some such major failure. - Original Message - From: lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Is either one of these customers a new customer? I Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
Why would that be? The ethernet part of this is well after any wireless which would be the ONLY place that customer B could effect customer A's performance. marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Especially so... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: Even thought it works great once the other customer's radio is powered down? marlon - Original Message - From: Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Delete both radios out of the sudb and enter them in again. We've had some problems with the 2400 product where their radios don't get the speed that they're supposed to, removing them and adding them back in, with the same CIR/MIR fixes the problem. Out of hundreds of these radios we only have to do this on one every few months. -Kevin On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Kevin Nealkevinsafel...@gmail.com wrote: Delete both radios out of the sudb and enter them in again. We've had some problems with the 2400 product where their radios don't get the speed that they're supposed to, removing them and adding them back in, with the same CIR/MIR fixes the problem. Out of hundreds of these radios we only have to do this on one every few months. -Kevin On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Oh sorry - I reread it and see there was a second customer/radio - not a second radio in the same spot. Confused with these A and B variables I am. Do you have forwarding groups on for these customers? If you don't need them then definitely leave them all out of any SU to SU groups. Did you try the power leveling yet? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: I thought about that too. But if that were the case turning off the other customer's radio should have no effect right? marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help If they're fox units I've got $50 that says the ethernet port on it is bad. The last 10 times this happened to me it was always a junk ethernet card. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: Good call. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Kelly Shaw Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:12 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi, Just curious. Have you done the SU POWERLEVELING command on the AP? Kelly Shaw Kinex Telecom PO Box 976 Halifax, VA 24558 Desk: 434-476-8800 x2400 Toll Free: 1.888.392.4804 Mobile: 434-579-2113 http://www.kinex.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Hi All, Got a strange one here. I have a 5830 AP with 4 customers on it. 3 have no complaints, 1 gets 300 to 400k downloads and 1000 to 3000 uploads. All links are less than one mile and are within 1/4 mile of each other. Two are right across the street from each other. Yesterday we had a few strange things happen so I went hunting for the cause. While looking I noticed customer B was my top bandwidth user and he stayed there for at least 30 minutes. As a part of trying to get customer A working better I thought I'd try turning off customer B (across the street and on the same AP as customer A). I shut down customer B (oh yeah, all CPE are Fox SE 5800) and ran a speed test at customer
[WISPA] Tranzeo/Pac Wireles Horizontal Omni 13db
I need a replacement omni and probably a backup, anyone know where these are in stock, or have some used laying around they might part with. Just around 13db and Horizontal, bigger is fine too. Regards Michael Baird WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo/Pac Wireles Horizontal Omni 13db
We have them in stock. http://store.wisp-router.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=ODH24-13eq=Tp= / Eje CTO WISP-Router, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo/Pac Wireles Horizontal Omni 13db I need a replacement omni and probably a backup, anyone know where these are in stock, or have some used laying around they might part with. Just around 13db and Horizontal, bigger is fine too. Regards Michael Baird WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
This might be way off-base I don't know enough about the intricacies of Trango polling to draw any definitive conclusions, but here's a theory: Can customer A's radio see/hear customer B's radio? If customer 'B' is constantly transmitting and customer A is picking up B's transmission, maybe it's just a squelching issue where A can't even get the time-slices necessary to talk to the AP. As for a solution... 1) physically turn customer B's radio so that its main lobe is no longer pointed at the AP but rather so that the radio is pointed as far away from custom A's radio as possible (yet maintain minimal connectivity with the AP). 2) switch customer B's radio (yes customer B... the one that is probably stuck in constant transmit mode). 3) force the transmit db as low as possible on customer B's radio and tweak the RSSI on customer A's radio so that it only hears the AP and hopefully ignores the weak noise being emitted from customer B's radio. Good luck, Larry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:03 PM To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help No. They've been customers for years and years. One of them has a newer radio (replaced last year) though. I think we replaced it due to a dead ethernet port or some such major failure. - Original Message - From: lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help Is either one of these customers a new customer? I Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo/Pac Wireles Horizontal Omni 13db
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 13:49 -0400, Michael Baird wrote: I need a replacement omni and probably a backup, anyone know where these are in stock, or have some used laying around they might part with. Just around 13db and Horizontal, bigger is fine too. I have these ready to ship. Hit me offlist. $214.95 plus shipping. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo/Pac Wireles Horizontal Omni 13db
Not a bad price for such a monster antenna. Well worth it I am sure. On 6/12/09, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 13:49 -0400, Michael Baird wrote: I need a replacement omni and probably a backup, anyone know where these are in stock, or have some used laying around they might part with. Just around 13db and Horizontal, bigger is fine too. I have these ready to ship. Hit me offlist. $214.95 plus shipping. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo/Pac Wireles Horizontal Omni 13db
Eje, Is your website's stock quantity update lived based on web orders and/or phone orders? On 6/12/09, Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com wrote: We have them in stock. http://store.wisp-router.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=ODH24-13eq=Tp= / Eje CTO WISP-Router, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo/Pac Wireles Horizontal Omni 13db I need a replacement omni and probably a backup, anyone know where these are in stock, or have some used laying around they might part with. Just around 13db and Horizontal, bigger is fine too. Regards Michael Baird WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo/Pac Wireles Horizontal Omni 13db
Yes it is. / Eje -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 2:08 PM To: e...@wisp-router.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo/Pac Wireles Horizontal Omni 13db Eje, Is your website's stock quantity update lived based on web orders and/or phone orders? On 6/12/09, Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com wrote: We have them in stock. http://store.wisp-router.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=ODH24-13eq=Tp= / Eje CTO WISP-Router, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo/Pac Wireles Horizontal Omni 13db I need a replacement omni and probably a backup, anyone know where these are in stock, or have some used laying around they might part with. Just around 13db and Horizontal, bigger is fine too. Regards Michael Baird WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo/Pac Wireles Horizontal Omni 13db
Thank you. Thank you thank you thank you thank you. Thanks. I am really fond of distributors that do that. Saves both your time and mine. Please get some NS2s =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com wrote: Yes it is. / Eje -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 2:08 PM To: e...@wisp-router.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo/Pac Wireles Horizontal Omni 13db Eje, Is your website's stock quantity update lived based on web orders and/or phone orders? On 6/12/09, Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com wrote: We have them in stock. http://store.wisp-router.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=ODH24-13eq=Tp= / Eje CTO WISP-Router, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo/Pac Wireles Horizontal Omni 13db I need a replacement omni and probably a backup, anyone know where these are in stock, or have some used laying around they might part with. Just around 13db and Horizontal, bigger is fine too. Regards Michael Baird WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo/Pac Wireles Horizontal Omni 13db
I agree there I prefer myself when I buy things online to know if it's in stock and if I buy quantities I prefer to not only know if it's in stock but also how many is in stock. NS2's are on their way to us. / Eje _ From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 2:27 PM To: e...@wisp-router.com Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo/Pac Wireles Horizontal Omni 13db Thank you. Thank you thank you thank you thank you. Thanks. I am really fond of distributors that do that. Saves both your time and mine. Please get some NS2s =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com wrote: Yes it is. / Eje -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 2:08 PM To: e...@wisp-router.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo/Pac Wireles Horizontal Omni 13db Eje, Is your website's stock quantity update lived based on web orders and/or phone orders? On 6/12/09, Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com wrote: We have them in stock. http://store.wisp-router.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=ODH24-13 http://store.wisp-router.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=ODH24-13eq=Tp= eq=Tp= / Eje CTO WISP-Router, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo/Pac Wireles Horizontal Omni 13db I need a replacement omni and probably a backup, anyone know where these are in stock, or have some used laying around they might part with. Just around 13db and Horizontal, bigger is fine too. Regards Michael Baird WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] LACP + Wi-Fi = ghettofabulous big wireless pipes?
I've got several outdoor Wi-Fi radios that I would like to configure in a PtP configuration on multiple 802.11a channels. My question to the list is, Can I use LACP on each end (via a network switch) to aggregate those PtP connections into one virtual connection? e.g. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk389/tk213/technologies_configuration_example09186a0080094470.shtml So, instead of using ethernet to each switch, I'm connecting an ethernet cable from my switch into the 100 Mbps LIM of the radio node, creating a PtP link across an area, then coming out that other radio's 100 Mbps LIM via ethernet into another LACP-friendly switch. So, on each port, there is something like... switch-ethernet-radio- 5 GHz PtP link-radio-ethernet-switch Any feedback on this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] LACP + Wi-Fi = ghettofabulous big wireless pipes?
Yes that will work. I am not sure if the link layer fault detect will work correctly so you might need to run Spanning Tree also. Something that can be a issue is if say you have 4 links and one is running 24mbit modulation and the rest are 54, your going to have issues with the slow link. If possible I would use a radio board that can take all your radios and bond them, presenting you with a single ethernet with the bonded capacity. Rogelio wrote: I've got several outdoor Wi-Fi radios that I would like to configure in a PtP configuration on multiple 802.11a channels. My question to the list is, Can I use LACP on each end (via a network switch) to aggregate those PtP connections into one virtual connection? e.g. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk389/tk213/technologies_configuration_example09186a0080094470.shtml So, instead of using ethernet to each switch, I'm connecting an ethernet cable from my switch into the 100 Mbps LIM of the radio node, creating a PtP link across an area, then coming out that other radio's 100 Mbps LIM via ethernet into another LACP-friendly switch. So, on each port, there is something like... switch-ethernet-radio- 5 GHz PtP link-radio-ethernet-switch Any feedback on this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] basic mikrotik question
Hi ... I'm planning to deploy a Mikrotik backhaul, with the Mikrotiks themselves in an untagged management subnet. The traffic passing over the backhaul would be 802.1q tagged (i.e. customer traffic, each customer in their own VLAN). I assume this should work without a hitch, right? Maybe a dumb question but better safe than sorry ... Thanks, Adam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] basic mikrotik question
no problem at all -- Kristi Fundu IT-NTS dooel www.it-nts.mk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] basic mikrotik question
Pretty sure no problems. Use bridge (or ap bridge) and station modes is my suggestion. Don't do anything with VLANs myself. On 6/12/09, Adam Greene maill...@webjogger.net wrote: Hi ... I'm planning to deploy a Mikrotik backhaul, with the Mikrotiks themselves in an untagged management subnet. The traffic passing over the backhaul would be 802.1q tagged (i.e. customer traffic, each customer in their own VLAN). I assume this should work without a hitch, right? Maybe a dumb question but better safe than sorry ... Thanks, Adam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] basic mikrotik question
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 18:19 -0400, Adam Greene wrote: I'm planning to deploy a Mikrotik backhaul, with the Mikrotiks themselves in an untagged management subnet. The traffic passing over the backhaul would be 802.1q tagged (i.e. customer traffic, each customer in their own VLAN). I assume this should work without a hitch, right? Maybe a dumb question but better safe than sorry ... It must be something in the waterI went several years without a VLAN call and now it seems I've done 3 or 4 this year alone. Either way, what you want is very easy to do (though it may not be so straightforward if you have not worked with MT vlans) and works correctly. NOTE: I said works correctly above instead of works well mostly because I don't like a vlan based architecture. With that caveat, as far as Mikrotik is concerned, vlans work well. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] basic mikrotik question
But even without touching Vlan config on his MT bridge I'm pretty sure it'll pass it like a dumb switch right? On 6/12/09, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 18:19 -0400, Adam Greene wrote: I'm planning to deploy a Mikrotik backhaul, with the Mikrotiks themselves in an untagged management subnet. The traffic passing over the backhaul would be 802.1q tagged (i.e. customer traffic, each customer in their own VLAN). I assume this should work without a hitch, right? Maybe a dumb question but better safe than sorry ... It must be something in the waterI went several years without a VLAN call and now it seems I've done 3 or 4 this year alone. Either way, what you want is very easy to do (though it may not be so straightforward if you have not worked with MT vlans) and works correctly. NOTE: I said works correctly above instead of works well mostly because I don't like a vlan based architecture. With that caveat, as far as Mikrotik is concerned, vlans work well. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
Marlon, I had this scenario once and it was the firmware. Double-check firmware levels on both the SU and AP. Also, you should try locking down the ethernet port to 10Mbps. Lastly, it would be interesting to know if another radio does the same. -RickG On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Marlon K. Schafero...@odessaoffice.com wrote: Hi All, Got a strange one here. I have a 5830 AP with 4 customers on it. 3 have no complaints, 1 gets 300 to 400k downloads and 1000 to 3000 uploads. All links are less than one mile and are within 1/4 mile of each other. Two are right across the street from each other. Yesterday we had a few strange things happen so I went hunting for the cause. While looking I noticed customer B was my top bandwidth user and he stayed there for at least 30 minutes. As a part of trying to get customer A working better I thought I'd try turning off customer B (across the street and on the same AP as customer A). I shut down customer B (oh yeah, all CPE are Fox SE 5800) and ran a speed test at customer A. Now they got 6000 down and 5000 up. Turn customer B back on and customer A went back down to unusable service. Here's the strange part, I can run the same speed test at customer B and they get good speeds all of the time. 8000 to 9000 down, 7000 to 8000 up. Theoretical max on the Trango system. So I don't think that they are causing this problem due to steady usage. The only thing that's popping out in my mind is that customer B has a newer radio (it was replaced last year or so). Could this somehow be a firmware issue? Neither customer has a programmed preference over the other one at the AP level. The other two customers on the AP haven't called with problems. If anyone can call me with some advice this am I'd sure appreciate it. 509.988.0260 Customer A (the nearly dead one) has a big project due this afternoon and I'm at a loss so far. Thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] basic mikrotik question
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 19:10 -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: But even without touching Vlan config on his MT bridge I'm pretty sure it'll pass it like a dumb switch right? Yes. If it's a bridge, it will pass the layer 2 stuff unhindered. Just have to create the management VLAN on the bridge and assign IPs to the bridge. It's pretty simple, really. At least this type of configuration is simple. You can create some pretty complex solutions if you try, though. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] basic mikrotik question
Ya, not a Vlan person myself. I prefer routers. On 6/13/09, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 19:10 -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: But even without touching Vlan config on his MT bridge I'm pretty sure it'll pass it like a dumb switch right? Yes. If it's a bridge, it will pass the layer 2 stuff unhindered. Just have to create the management VLAN on the bridge and assign IPs to the bridge. It's pretty simple, really. At least this type of configuration is simple. You can create some pretty complex solutions if you try, though. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] basic mikrotik question
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 01:26 -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: Ya, not a Vlan person myself. I prefer routers. VLAN does not necessarily preclude routing. VLANs are a layer 2 method of segmenting the network. You can route on top of a VLAN layer. I am not a fan of VLANs because a large part of the time I see them used, they add complexity to the network when it is not necessary to do so. Used correctly, VLANs are a really easy way to provide segmentation and broadcast controls. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
