Re: [WISPA] tower climbing rope

[Justin Wilson]

+1 Tower One



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> On Jun 22, 2018, at 6:58 PM, Blair Davis  wrote:
> 
> Lee at Tower One can hook you up.
> 
> That is where we got ours.
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> 
> On 6/22/2018 6:37 PM, David Funderburk wrote:
>> We need more rope for a job on a 250 ft tower.   What rope do you recommend 
>> and where can I get a good price?
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> David Funderburk
>> GlobalVision
>> 864-569-0703
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Re: [WISPA] WISP Business Broker Recommendations to Sell WISP?

[Justin Wilson]

Having been involved in several sales (7 to be exact)  here is what I know.  
Please know I am tech guy and there are much better business folks on here that 
could talk circles around me.  I just have been in the thick.


-Have as much of everything documented as you can.  Tower sites, IPs, where 
stuff is.  You would be surprised how many WISPs don’t.
-Have contracts on your towers/grain legs/rooftops/whatever.  Nothing makes a 
buyer more nervous then not knowing if their towers will be there tomorrow. Do 
this now because if tower owners catch wind of you selling they may demand 
better terms.  Get them locked in when things are running normal.  
-Don’t get hung up on your equipment. Don’t let the buyer try to negotiate you 
down based upon your equipment too.  Most successful sales I see focus less on 
the equipment and more on the business.  What does the business do today if 
nothing is changed? How much money does it bring in? Where can we trim costs 
without doing a single upgrade? 
-Have stats on backhaul capacities, AP capacities, etc. Potential buyers look 
at this for promotions, upping speed packages in areas, etc.

If you have to choose have the business side in order before the tech side.  
The tech side can be fixed with money.  If the business side is missing money 
because clients aren’t being billed, lots of collections, etc. then it’s an 
uphill battle. 

Just some random thoughts.


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> On Dec 6, 2017, at 5:33 PM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> Please share your recommendations and/or experiences with business brokers or 
> other suggestions for selling a WISP.
>  
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>  
> Jeffrey A. Franklin, Esq.
> Principal Consultant
> BrightLine Tech Solutions, LLC
> 101 Pennsylvania Ave.
> Reading, PA  19606-9406
> 610-314-7130 (o)
> 610-914-1953 (c)
> jfrank...@brightlinetechsolutions.com 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Legal aid

[Justin Wilson]

+1
I couldn’t think of the name of Kris’s first or last name.   I knew Rick would 
know.



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> On Feb 25, 2017, at 9:12 PM, Rick Harnish  wrote:
> 
> Kris Twomey k...@lokt.net <mailto:k...@lokt.net>
> 
> Respectively,
> 
> Rick Harnish
> Director of WISP Markets
> Direct: 972.922.1443
> Baicells Technologies N.A. Inc.
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Droid
> On Feb 25, 2017 8:48 PM, Josh Luthman  wrote:
> For what?  Some telecom stuff needs to be a DC lawyer...
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> On Feb 25, 2017 8:18 PM, "Grand Avenue Broadband"  <mailto:grandav...@grandavebb.com>> wrote:
> When I asked WISPA for a legal referral, they gave me the names of a pair of 
> high-powered firms inside the Beltway.  For what I need, this is overkill and 
> a bit out of my budget.  Has anyone had good experiences with more modest 
> telecom law firms that they would be willing to recommend?  Thanks.
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for startup suggestions

[Justin Wilson]

We have helped several startup wisps, and I’ve been a startup myself.  Quick 
10,000 foot overview.

1.Invest in a good backend from the start.  Billing, monitoring, etc.  That way 
you can concentrate on installing customers.
2.Make the network modular enough to swap out vendors down the road.
3.Don’t get too caught up on technology.  Create some goals, have a coverage 
area, and then see what vendors fit that.
4.Plan for growth on your backbone internet connections.  Have a game plan if 
you need 50 megs, 100, 500, etc. 
5.Attend WispAmerica next month.  Lots of info.



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> On Feb 2, 2017, at 5:42 PM, Mark Limehouse  wrote:
> 
>   I am at the discovery and the beginning of research to start a WISP within 
> my state (Wisconsin). My focus is to make this into a solid business model 
> that I can build and expand eventually. I am taking my time I want to do this 
> right and address all potential pitfalls or "gotchas" that may be known from 
> a technology and provider standpoint. Would anyone be kind enough to offer up 
> their suggestions or direct me to where I can obtain this kind of detail?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance! 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Do you recognize this tower?

[Justin Wilson]

Cliff,
Why don’t you create a “lists@“ or a separate e-mail for each list you are on? 
That way you don’t have to see everything 24/7

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> On Nov 17, 2016, at 8:45 AM, Cliff deQuilettes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Sorry Another (617) emails from advertisers polluted my personal email . 
> can't read what you sent ME :o( DELETING all these Marketing and business 
> people.
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
> mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>> on behalf of 
> Eric Rogers mailto:ecrog...@precisionds.com>>
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 7:52 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do you recognize this tower?
>  
> I bet it is a Motorola brand tower (made by Rohn).  We had a 100' tower, and 
> it is nearly identical to the SSV, except the pads are 45* out from standard 
> SSV.  You can get a section of that is made with the 45 plate at the top and 
> the standard at the bottom to continue building a taller tower if needed.  We 
> chose to buy a newer tower than to re-engineer one.
>  
> Eric Rogers
> 
> 
> www.pdsconnect.me 
> (317) 831-3000 x200
>  
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
> Behalf Of Marco Coelho
> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 4:30 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do you recognize this tower?
>  
> 
>  
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Marco Coelho  <mailto:coelh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> tower leg part numbers are marked:  8807379-1 880380-1 880382-1 881569-1  NO 
> pics yet
>  
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Josh Luthman  <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
> No pictures
> 
>  
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 
> Direct: 937-552-2343 
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>  
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Marco Coelho  <mailto:coelh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> I'm looking at a tower (self supporter) which mechanically looks like one of 
> my Rohn SSV towers.  There is not a tower part number plate on the tower, but 
> the legs are marked:
> 
> 880379-1
> 880380-1
> 880381-1
> 880382-1
> 881569-1
> Ideas?
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] WTB 11 ghz link

[Justin Wilson]

Mimosa
Trango
Cambium (Yes i have heard of deals on their 11ghz line)



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> On Aug 2, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
> 
> Need a quick cost effective link in 11 ghz:
> 
> Used Trango or Saf, anyone? 
>  
> 
> Gino Villarini
> 
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
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Re: [WISPA] DNS Name Resolver for WISP

[Justin Wilson]

+1 to both Adam and Mike’s responses. 

Don’t hand out someone else’s DNS. Spin up your own DNS, use root hints, and 
life is happy.


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> On Jul 5, 2016, at 12:06 PM, Adam Kennedy  wrote:
> 
> Seconded. We also use unbound with a few tweaks. Anycast is a perfect 
> solution for Unbound DNS resolvers. We have several scattered across the 
> network so resolution/DNS cache is closer to the customer than just at our 
> NOC. It works very, very well. 
> 
> 
> Adam Kennedy
> Network & Systems Engineer 
> Watch Communications
> (866) 586-1518
> adamkenn...@watchcomm.net <mailto:adamkenn...@watchcomm.net>
> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 10:10 PM, Mike Hammett  <mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
> *NEVER* hand out an off-net resolver.
> 
> *ONLY* hand out your own, on-net resolvers.
> 
> I use Unbound on Debian.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> 
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> 
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> 
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
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> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> 
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> 
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> 
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> 
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> 
> From: "Colton Conor" mailto:colton.co...@gmail.com>>
> To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 2:56:42 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] DNS Name Resolver for WISP
> 
> What dns name solvers do you use to hand out to your customers via DHCP and 
> why? Today we just hand out Google's 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 as a name resolvers. 
> I recently learned about OpenDNS's free service for homes where a home user 
> can monitor and potentially block certain websites, but that would require 
> the home to signup at open dns, and then enter open DNS in their router. 
> However if we handed out OpenDNS's IPs instead of googles, and provided a 
> gateway, then that would remove that step of the client having to enter 
> opendns IPs into their router right? 
> 
> Does OpenDNS have a service for ISP's? That gives us insight as to where 
> traffic on our network is heading based dns lookups? I know about Netflow 
> etc, but doing this though DNS seems like a cool option as well. We wouldn't 
> want to block anything as an ISP, but it would be useful to know the top 
> visited site by our customers is facebook.com <http://facebook.com/> for 
> example.
> 
> If not OpenDNS, then is there some other hosted DNS service for ISP's? 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot service for MT

[Justin Wilson]

brightwifi.com

Excellent cloud wifi.


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> On Jun 28, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Scott Piehn  wrote:
> 
> Currently we pay $300 for annual maintenance on a custom built system.  We 
> have a box in our office we maintain.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -
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> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Paolo Di Francesco
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 10:09 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot service for MT
> 
> it depends on your budget and on your goal
> 
> there are various around but the main question is how much you think you
> want to pay such a service
> 
> for small and simple installations radius manager could be a solution
> 
> there are also many online "cloud" solutions for MT
> 
> 
> 
>> I am looking for recommendations from anyone using a radius server for
>> MT hotspot authentication and billing for temporary service.  Ours
>> needs to be replaced
>> 
>> thanks in advance
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot service for MT

[Justin Wilson]

brightwifi.com

Excellent cloud wifi.


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> On Jun 28, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Scott Piehn  wrote:
> 
> Currently we pay $300 for annual maintenance on a custom built system.  We 
> have a box in our office we maintain.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Scott M Piehn
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Paolo Di Francesco
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 10:09 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot service for MT
> 
> it depends on your budget and on your goal
> 
> there are various around but the main question is how much you think you
> want to pay such a service
> 
> for small and simple installations radius manager could be a solution
> 
> there are also many online "cloud" solutions for MT
> 
> 
> 
>> I am looking for recommendations from anyone using a radius server for
>> MT hotspot authentication and billing for temporary service.  Ours
>> needs to be replaced
>> 
>> thanks in advance
>> 
>> -
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>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Any IgniteNet MetroLinq customers out there

[Justin Wilson]

Short of hardware issues 60GHZ links (and have done 80ghz) links are very 
precise. Make sure your mounts are rock solid.   We are talking a 5mm 
wavelength at 60GHZ. It’s very easy to get on a side lobe as well and still 
have good signal but poor throughput.  I know that’s not the original issue.

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> On Jun 21, 2016, at 11:44 PM, Aaron Fitzgerald  wrote:
> 
> Mine work fine on 24v
> 
> On Jun 21, 2016 2:01 AM, "Chris Ruschmann"  <mailto:ch...@scsalaska.net>> wrote:
> 24VH is needed on the netonix, we had weird similar issues using standard 24v 
> ports.
> 
> On Jun 20, 2016 9:03 PM, "Judd Dare"  <mailto:judd.d...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Try a different power brick.
> 
> On Jun 20, 2016 9:47 PM, "Chadwick Wachs"  <mailto:c...@auwireless.net>> wrote:
> One end is brick (the end that is having issues) and the other end is off a 
> Netonix.
> 
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Chris Ruschmann  <mailto:ch...@scsalaska.net>> wrote:
> How are you powering them? Power brick or switch?
> 
> On Jun 20, 2016 7:35 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz"  <mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
> Are there the only two radios you have ? maybe there is a physical hardware 
> issue with one of the radios..
> 
> we have seen something similar with on another link we were working on for 
> another WISP.  No conclusions yet, but one radio is definitely doing hokey 
> stuff...They have spares, will be trying another pair (the radios linked up 
> on the bench, but would not link nor go thru the alignment process on a 400m 
> link).
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 
> 
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518  Option 2 or Email: 
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
> 
> From: "Chadwick Wachs" mailto:c...@auwireless.net>>
> To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 12:47:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any IgniteNet MetroLinq customers out there
> Update to all on this.  We are running MCS1, the latest public firmware and 
> contacted Ignite support. They are responsive.  We did get the 60 GHz radios 
> to link up once - for about 30 minutes. Then, the 60 GHz radio on the client 
> end died. Can't open the 60 GHz aiming tool and the dashboard acts like the 
> radio is off.
> We have been through a number of reboots to get the 60 GHz radio to wake back 
> up. No dice. Ignite is aware of the issue, acknowledges I am not the only one 
> who has seen this but so far no solutions.  Last night, the 5 GHz link 
> between these two radios died at 3am (not a production link).  We lost all 
> wireless and ethernet access to the client radio until a reboot.
> 
> After rebooting, the 5 GHz would not pass any traffic until the 60 GHz radios 
> were turned off in the interface on both ends.  Both ends are on big UPSs so 
> I don't think power is the issue, I think there is buggy firmware.  While I 
> have some time to deal with testing firmware and trouble shooting, I don't 
> have unlimited time to do this.
> 
> It is back running on 5 GHz. It is aimed well - we did get a solid 60 GHz 
> signal but we never got the 60's to link back up after one mysteriously 
> stopped.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 12:37 AM, Rob Genovesi  <mailto:r...@corp.coastside.net>> wrote:
> Aiming takes patience, the scopes aren't perfect but a huge help.  We
> found that turning off auto MCS and using fixed lower rate helped a
> lot.  Make sure you have the newest firmware, I believe there are more
> updates coming out soon as well.  IgniteNet support was responsive and
> very helpful when we had questions.
> 
> 
> Rob Genovesi • Coastside.Net • Owner
> 650-712-5900  • 525B Obispo Rd • Half Moon Bay CA
> 
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Chadwick Wachs  <mailto:c...@auwireless.net>> wrote:
> > I have been trying for a couple days to get a new PTP60-35 60 GHz link up
> > and running with no luck. Looking for some help / suggestions from anyone
> > who has been successful getting links up. The 5 GHz link is working but 60
> > never trains up. I bought the spotting scopes and each end is dead center.
> > Good old fashioned up/down/left/right aiming methods do not seem to work
> > either and IgniteNet is lacking in the support department.
> >
> > Anyone want to contact me off list if you have any suggestions on what
> >

Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?

[Justin Wilson]

Check out some of the WISP groups.  Guys like Josh Powell have deployed it.
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> On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Josh Luthman  wrote:
> 
> I'm mostly concerned about 3.65 if that changes anything.
> 
> 
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> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:27 PM,  <mailto:mike.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> And what freq they running it on?
> 
> On Jun 17, 2016, at 12:26, Clay Stewart  <mailto:cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Same question.
>> 
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Josh Luthman > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
>> Does anyone besides the guys in Amarillo have this gear deployed?  Care to 
>> comment on/off list?
>> 
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>> Office: 937-552-2340 
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 
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Re: [WISPA] Software for network monitoring

[Justin Wilson - MTIN]

Use version 3.6 instead of 4 and you have to worry about the database size 
limits.

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> On Jan 9, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Ryan McKenzie  wrote:
> 
> I have to put a vote in for The Dude.  After playing with Nagios, Solarwinds 
> and PRTG, and flirting a bit with Cacti, I stick with MikroTik, just for the 
> flexibility.  Once you take the time to learn the ins and outs, just like 
> RouterOS, TheDude will do just about anything.  
> 
> There are some size limits on DB, but you can't argue with the price :)
> 
> Thanks,
> Ryan McKenzie
> 385-215-WIFI
> 
> On 1/9/15 3:11 PM, Fabrizio Fiore Donati wrote:
>> Hi all we have a network of about 200 wireless pop, each pop have about 8 
>> devices, what software do you suggest to use for monitoring ?
>> Wireless devices are a mix of mikrotik, ubiquity, cambium and siae 
>> microelettronica. Switches are zte and cisco.
>> 
>> Right now we use ipswitch whatsup gold but i'm looking for a valid 
>> alternative.
>> 
>> Anu suggestion ?
>> 
>> Fabrizio Fiore Donati
>> 
>> Mobile: +39 3289872420
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Re: [WISPA] anybody using bitlomat stuff?

[Justin Wilson - MTIN]

I have a few clients using it.  Contact me offsets and I will gladly share what 
I know.

Justin




> On Dec 30, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Tim Reichhart  
> wrote:
> 
> Is anybody using that bitlomat stuff in there wisp?
> 
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Re: [WISPA] chilly tower climb

[Justin Wilson]

Get some ski goggles.  Keep your eyes warm and your body won¹t be so cold.
Proven scientific fact.

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From:  Marco Coelho 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Wednesday, November 12, 2014 at 6:15 PM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  [WISPA] chilly tower climb

Amazing how much faster I climb when it's cold outside!

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Re: [WISPA] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs

[Justin Wilson]

http://www.wirelessestimator.com/emergency/

*This JHA meets and exceeds all project JHA requirements set forth in
ANSI/TIA-1019-A's Check List for Site Evaluation for projects


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From:  Josh Reynolds 
Organization:  SPITwSPOTS
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Tuesday, November 11, 2014 at 4:29 PM
To:  , WISPA General List 
Subject:  [WISPA] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs


 Has anybody had one of these done before? Do you know any resources
specific to our industry that could help with this?
 
 Thanks
  
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Re: [WISPA] Cambium OEMs Ceragon for PTP

[Justin Wilson]

It could create a better support and supply chain for the folks who are not
high volume customers. The two companies may agree that Ceragon won¹t focus
on the smaller markets such as WISPs, and let Cambium do that.  If cambium
focuses on that market then Ceragon may devote more resources to product
development and different markets.

Just a possibility. But what do I know.

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From:  Mike Hammett 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Tuesday, October 7, 2014 at 9:20 AM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Cambium OEMs Ceragon for PTP

No clue if this is true in this case, but possibilities include software
enhancements, different interfaces, different form factors, etc.



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From: "Matt Hoppes" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 7:57:51 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cambium OEMs Ceragon for PTP

Interesting. I've never understood this. Why would I buy the Cambium product
instead of the Ceragon product?

On Oct 7, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

> http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/ptp/ptp-820
> 
> NO mention of Mimo though..
> 
> 
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
> President
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Re: [WISPA] Ticketing software

[Justin Wilson]

Part of it depends on what your end goal is.  If you want to transfer these
tickets into billing or do you just want to keep track of everything. And in
what capacity are you using it? If it¹s for an ISP I would use on integrated
with billing.

Otherwise OS ticket is good.

We use the ticketing in FreshBooks because we can convert it into billable
time easily.

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From:  Brian Wilson 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Saturday, August 16, 2014 at 10:00 AM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  [WISPA] Ticketing software

What are people using for customer support ticketing software?

We currently use a combination of pink notes and email.
(and I wish I was joking.)

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Re: [WISPA] Download of Copyrighted Material - What do you do?

[Justin Wilson]

I will only consider requests to the registered agent contact information.
This e-mail has an auto-responder which asks for a non form letter to be
e-mailed and USPS mailed.  Once these two criteria have been met we will
respond accordingly.  Since e-mail has no verified Identity I have no way of
knowing if they are who they say they are.  In our response we ask for a
telephone call at the least to verify identity, but prefer a certified
letter.

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From:  Adam Greene 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Saturday, August 16, 2014 at 9:06 AM
To:  'WISPA General List' 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Download of Copyrighted Material - What do you do?

I understand that in order for an ISP to limit its liability regarding the
copyright infringements of its customers, it must comply with the Digital
Millennium Copyright Act, in particular its ³notice and take down² and
³"counter notice and put back² procedures.
 
I believe these procedures are compliant:
 
===
 
a.   Analyze the notification to make sure it contains content that
complies with these provisions:
 
(i) A physical or electronic signature of a person authorized to act on
behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.
 
(ii) Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed,
or, if multiple copyrighted works at a single online site are covered by a
single notification, a representative list of such works at that site.
 
(iii) Identification of the material that is claimed to be infringing or to
be the subject of infringing activity and that is to be removed or access to
which is to be disabled, and information reasonably sufficient to permit the
service provider to locate the material.
 
(iv) Information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to
contact the complaining party, such as an address, telephone number, and, if
available, an electronic mail address at which the complaining party may be
contacted.
 
(v) A statement that the complaining party has a good faith belief that use
of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the
copyright owner, its agent, or the law.
 
(vi) A statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and
under penalty of perjury, that the complaining party is authorized to act on
behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.
 
b.  If the notification substantially complies with clauses (ii), (iii),
and (iv) but not other clauses, reply to the notification requesting
clarification.
 
c.   Once the notification substantially complies with all clauses,
disable access to the infringing content (for example, by shutting down
bittorrent on the customer¹s connection) and contact the customer to inform
them of the notification and that access to the content has been disabled.
 
d.  Inform the notifier that appropriate action has been taken and
request to be informed if the infringement recurs.
 

e.   If the customer confirms that they have removed the infringing
material from their system, and if requested, reenable bittorrent on their
connection. 
 
===
 
Thanks,
Adam
 
 
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 8:34 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Download of Copyrighted Material - What do you do?
 
That it is.  Thankfully Netherlands bandwidth is cheap.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 15, 2014 1:55 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
> 
> VPNs are pretty effective at it.
> 
>  just sayin'.
> 
> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>
> 
> On 08/14/2014 08:44 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> 
>> Are you seriously education your customers to pirate?
>> 
>> By the way, that doesn't really do anything in terms of hiding your identity.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>  
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just forward it on with a note that if they don¹t know this is going on
>>> they should investigate it.  If they do I would recommend they use an
>>> encrypted P2P client or turn on encryption.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Justin
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Download of Copyrighted Material - What do you do?

[Justin Wilson]

Not telling them to pirate.  Lots of legit reasons for P2P.  If I am
connecting to only encrypted peers then the ³script kiddies² have a harder
time seeing what folks are doing.  It does not make them anonymous, no more
than nat makes your home network secure.  However, it does act like nat by
clouding the data some.

Many of these ³law firms² have interns sitting around all day scouring p2p
sites.  If they find someone and their data is harder to lookup they simply
move on.  The more sophisticated ones have programs which automate all this.
If you are harder to see then you get put to the bottom of the list.

I did a test about a year ago.  Put 2 mac minis in a co-lo.  Spent two days
downloading everything that was hot on the trackers.  On had a client only
connecting to encrypted peers.  The other did not.   The unencrypted client
received 10 or so notices.  The other only received two.  The watchers can
run encrypted peers too, but the data is harder to get.

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From:  Josh Luthman 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Friday, August 15, 2014 at 12:44 AM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Download of Copyrighted Material - What do you do?

Are you seriously education your customers to pirate?

By the way, that doesn't really do anything in terms of hiding your
identity.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
> I just forward it on with a note that if they don¹t know this is going on they
> should investigate it.  If they do I would recommend they use an encrypted P2P
> client or turn on encryption.
> 
> Justin
> 
> 
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> From:  Adair Winter 
> Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
> Date:  Thursday, August 14, 2014 at 4:57 PM
> 
> To:  WISPA General List 
> Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Download of Copyrighted Material - What do you do?
> 
> We forward the notice to offending customer and let them know that uploading
> and downloading of copyright content is not allowed. Recently we've been
> getting more notices and several from the same people. So I've started
> suspending the account until they call and acknowledge the notice we've sent
> them.
> I'm really not trying to be the bittorrent police. However, when someone
> downloads 56Gb in three days of torrents and doesn't respond to the emails. We
> feel that is a gross waste of network resources and want them to understand
> what they are doing.
> 
> Adair
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Russ Van Vlack 
> wrote:
>> WISPA Colleagues,
>>  
>> We are fighting the neverending battle of dealing with the IP-Echelon notices
>> of copyright infringement and need a more firm policy in place.  Our
>> acceptable use policy and account terms and conditions clearly state that
>> these actions are illegal and/or against company policy, however we do not
>> have a firm course of action in place in dealing with customers in violation.
>>  
>> Would anyone be willing to share what their company policy is in regards to
>> these notices?  Especially, if you do anything further than passing the
>> notice on to the customer?
>>  
>> Thanks.
>>  
>> --Russell Van Vlack
>>  
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Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring Program

[Justin Wilson]

For most of our folks we use a combination of the Dude from Mikrotik and
Nagios, and usually throw in Cacti.  The dude is easy to understand, doubles
as network documentation, and is good for the CSR folks to look at a glance.
Dude can also replace Cacti if you desire.  It just doesn’t create pretty
graphs.  We mainly use cacti for co-lo and bandwidth customers.  It
calculates 95th percentile internally. You can also setup cacti to graph all
kinds of stuff you don’t necessarily want to monitor, but are helpful to
keep track of. For example, wireless signal/ccq/jitter/whatever, BGP routes,
temperature, voltage, and other SNMP data.

Nagios is great at knowing the difference between latency and a link
actually being down.  It has a ton of extra knowledge about stuff you don’t
find in the Dude.  Nagios has a learning curve for sure, but it’s worth it.
If you use the newer versions or even the paid version that learning curve
isn’t as steep. Nagios also can do distributed monitoring to split up load
or make your monitoring a little more fault tolerant.

My monitoring box has a VM with Dude,  a VM with Nagios, and a VM with
Cacti.  The only reason Cacti is separated is because I like to use
cacti-ez.  It sets everything up and away it goes.

Justin

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From:  Brian Wilson 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Friday, August 15, 2014 at 3:11 PM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring Program

I have inherited a very old version of Nagios and we also use The Dude from
Mikrotik.

That's what we have installed here right now, not a recommendation. ;-)

I am very interested to hear what other people are using, too.
​
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Re: [WISPA] Download of Copyrighted Material - What do you do?

[Justin Wilson]

I just forward it on with a note that if they don¹t know this is going on
they should investigate it.  If they do I would recommend they use an
encrypted P2P client or turn on encryption.

Justin


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From:  Adair Winter 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Thursday, August 14, 2014 at 4:57 PM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Download of Copyrighted Material - What do you do?

We forward the notice to offending customer and let them know that uploading
and downloading of copyright content is not allowed. Recently we've been
getting more notices and several from the same people. So I've started
suspending the account until they call and acknowledge the notice we've sent
them.
I'm really not trying to be the bittorrent police. However, when someone
downloads 56Gb in three days of torrents and doesn't respond to the emails.
We feel that is a gross waste of network resources and want them to
understand what they are doing.

Adair



On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Russ Van Vlack 
wrote:
> WISPA Colleagues,
>  
> We are fighting the neverending battle of dealing with the IP-Echelon notices
> of copyright infringement and need a more firm policy in place.  Our
> acceptable use policy and account terms and conditions clearly state that
> these actions are illegal and/or against company policy, however we do not
> have a firm course of action in place in dealing with customers in violation.
>  
> Would anyone be willing to share what their company policy is in regards to
> these notices?  Especially, if you do anything further than passing the notice
> on to the customer?
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> --Russell Van Vlack
>  
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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth brokers

[Justin Wilson]

I guess part of it depends on where and what.  If you are going into a co-lo
then ethernet is much easier to sell separate from transport.

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From:  Josh Luthman 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Monday, August 11, 2014 at 7:14 PM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  [WISPA] Bandwidth brokers


Does anyone have some contacts?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
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Re: [WISPA] Easiest time clock for part timers

[Justin Wilson]

+1 for quickbooks. 

I use Freshbooks and it has a time tracking feature and a smartphone app.
It also has some employee time things as add ons.  I like it because it¹s a
hosted solution.

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From:  Mike Hammett 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Monday, June 23, 2014 at 12:30 PM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Easiest time clock for part timers

> QB has a third party module available that does time tracking (via smart
> phone, web page, etc.), imports it as hours for that particular worker. As the
> admin, you can then assign it to jobs, invoices, etc. It was fairly cheap for
> all of that work as well. The name? No clue. All I remember is to track
> employees working for contract clients (didn't get the contract), the employee
> did all of the legwork for reporting time. I just approved it, clicked the
> couple buttons to send off both the invoices and direct deposits. maybe 15
> minutes per pay period worth of work?
> 
> 
> 
> -
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> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
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> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> 
> 
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 10:58:47 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] Easiest time clock for part timers
> 
> Does anyone have a quick and easy product for a time clock?  We're doing it by
> hand now and it feels like too much time is being wasted.
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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[WISPA] MBA final thesis on WISP

[Justin Wilson]

Folks,
My wife is doing her Master¹s thesis on a business plan of starting a WISP.
This is a little more geared toward the financial side of things.  Since I
am a geek this is not my strong suit.  Does anyone have any marketing plans,
business plans, etc. they would care to share off list?

As a by-product I have been in the process of writing a ³starting a WISP²
book.  I do plan on incorporating some of her research into this.  I don¹t
plan on using anyone¹s proprietary info.   But I will definitely give credit
where credit is due.

Thanks in advance,

Justin

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Re: [WISPA] Justin Wilson?

[Justin Wilson]

Darin,
I will have Andrew send you an e-mail from supp...@mtin.net.

Just for everyone¹s reference if you need to get ahold of ³me² you can do so
at the following:
Phone: 317.644.2224
Email: supp...@mtin.net

I wrote a little blog post this morning as kind of ³therapy² for me.  As
many of you know I have been a principal in a WISP we started after the
failed sale of NDWave to another company.
http://www.mtin.net/blog/?p=50

The sale of ZigWireless has been my latest ³project².  I am personally
invested in this so my future of getting this done has been a top priority.
So much so that everything else has suffered as a result.  The life of a
WISP. LOL.  I feel like a ³Veteran² after being in the ISP business since
1993.

Just so this isn¹t just about me, if anyone wants to know my thoughts on a
sale from a tech perspective hit me up off list and I will be glad to share.

Justin

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From:  Darin Steffl 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Thursday, May 15, 2014 at 1:28 PM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  [WISPA] Justin Wilson?

> I have been trying to get ahold of Justin Wilson who started a project for me
> in April and he was out of commission for a little bit but now I haven't heard
> from him since. I have called his cell #, sent him 5 emails to j...@mtin.net
> with no response and I don't know how to get ahold of him. I see he has sent
> emails out to the list multiple times in the last few weeks but he's never
> responded to me. 
> 
> Anyone have any special tricks to get him to talk? My project is quite simple
> and he said it would take no more than 2 hours tops but he hasn't done
> anything further for me. Thanks
> 
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[WISPA] NSA & Cisco

[Justin Wilson]

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa-upgrade-factory-
show-cisco-router-getting-implant/

A document included in the trove of National Security Agency files released
with Glenn Greenwald¹s book No Place to Hide details how the agency¹s
Tailored Access Operations (TAO) unit and other NSA employees intercept
servers, routers, and other network gear being shipped to organizations
targeted for surveillance and install covert implant firmware onto them
before they¹re delivered.



I am sure Cisco is not the only one so I am not singling them out.

Justin

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[WISPA] Perils of Public DNS

[Justin Wilson]

http://www.bgpmon.net/turkey-hijacking-ip-addresses-for-popular-global-dns-p
roviders/

At BGPmon we see numerous BGP hijacks every single day, some are interesting
because of the size and scale of the hijack or as we¹ve seen today because
of the targeted hijacked prefixes.
It all started last weekend when the Turkish president ordered the
censorship of twitter.com. This started with a block of twitter by returning
false twitter IP addresses by Turk Telekom DNS servers.  Soon users in
Turkey discovered that changing DNS providers to Google DNS or OpenDNS was a
good method of bypassing the censorship
<https://twitter.com/bgpmon/status/447894140257202176> .
But as of around 9am UTC today (Saturday March 29) this changed when Turk
Telekom started to hijack the IP address for popular free and open DNS
providers such as Google¹s 8.8.8.8, OpenDNS¹ 208.67.222.222 and Level3¹s
4.2.2.2.


https://twitter.com/bgpmon
Looks like stuff started happening again today.

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Re: [WISPA] OT Email Receipt

[Justin Wilson]

About the only consistent program I know which does this is Exchange.  But
both users have to be on Exchange for this to work.

Justin


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From:  
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Wednesday, April 2, 2014 at 10:04 AM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  [WISPA] OT Email Receipt

> My owners asked this. Is there a way or a protocol that will allow you to be
> notified that an email recipient received or viewed your email, even if they
> refuse to acknowledge notification receipt? I don¹t think there is but they
> seem to think they read something a while back
>  
> thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...

[Justin Wilson]

As stated earlier Wimax is frequency independent.  Wimax is also 
referred
to as 802.16x.  Last I knew they were up to revisionE, but I could be
wrong.  Wimax is the ³generic term² for 802.16 just like wifi is the
generic term for 802.11.  Wimax allows 8 bits per hertz no matter the
frequency used. 3.65 Wimax is the common frequency available to the normal
WISP operator.

Some Reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX

http://compnetworking.about.com/od/wirelessinternet/g/bldef_wimax.htm





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-Original Message-
From: Sam 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Thursday, March 27, 2014 at 3:25 PM
To: 
Subject: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...

>Today we had a company come to us pushing wimax. Admittedly I've never
>used wimax, nor do I know a lot about it. From what I can see looking at
>Google images of the technology and how it's deployed, it looks no
>different than the PtP and PtMP that we all use with 900 MHz, or 2.4 and
>5.x GHz.
>
>Is the only advantage to wimax the presumably clearer and less-used
>frequencies upon which they operate? I had (evidently mistakenly)
>thought that perhaps wimax was a code word for some sort of mesh, and
>that's how it achieved NLOS service. However in looking at the network
>layouts on Google, it doesn't look like that at all. Rather, it looks
>like that add another AP to get around the obstruction(s), and simply
>backhaul it to an intermediary AP/tower to get it back to the PoP.
>
>Thanks
>Sam
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[WISPA] Friday For Sale UBNT, Cisco, etc.

[Justin Wilson]

Folks,
I have the following for Sale. Doing some spring cleaning.

1x UBNT 13 DBI 5GHZ omni. New in Box  $120
http://www.balticnetworks.com/ubiquiti-airmax-omni-5-45-5-85-ghz-13dbi-omni-
directional-antenna.html

1x Cisco 3640 Router - $25 plus shipping

3x nanostation m5 radios.   All 3 have primary port blown but power up on
secondary okay.  $50 for all 3 plus shipping



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Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP

[Justin Wilson]

Having been a part of a deal gone bad I recommend cash up front.  Once you
hand over the keys it¹s pretty hard to get it back.  If you have to go to
Litigation you are going to be spending money out of pocket for attorneys.
I agree with Cameron.   Cash at closing. If you don¹t do 100% cash at
closing you should be prepared to not see another dime if you do anything
else.

I know ISPs who sold, got some money at closing, and then ended up spending
twice that money on attorney fees and still ended up with nothing.  Selling
a business should be like selling a high dollar item.  If I was going to
sell a car I sure wouldn¹t sell it on contract.   Too many things can go
wrong.

If I had 100% ownership in an ISP today and wanted to sell I would take a
hit on the overall price.  If then user couldn¹t afford it and I really
needed to sell for whatever reason I would simply take a lower price.  Less
stress that way.

Justin


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From:  "Hass, Douglas A." 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Wednesday, March 19, 2014 at 3:08 PM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP

> Cameron‹
>  
> There¹s lots of ways to structure the deal so that you¹re protected, even if
> the buyer is a complete imbecile and even if the buyer doesn¹t have cash up
> front.  If you want to sell or if you want to buy, don¹t let the all-cash
> restriction prevent you from making a deal.  If you end up in court chasing
> payments from the buyer, then you likely didn¹t draft your agreement carefully
> enough given your tolerance for risk (of course, your due diligence should be
> telling you whether the buyer is an imbecile, and that information should
> inform what kind of deal you¹re willing to accept).
>  
> To categorically reject buyers who don¹t have 100% cash to hand you at closing
> might mean leaving money on the table or more flexible terms from someone who
> can put together a more attractive end package.  In that sense, it works like
> selling real estate.  The all-cash offer isn¹t always your best one.
>  
> To Randy¹s point--Jab has undergone a major shakeup at the top.  Many of the
> senior executive staff have departed in the last few months.  That might
> account for some of the quietness.  I don¹t have any inside information, just
> what I learned trying to round up potential panelists and speakers for
> WISPAmerica.
>  
> Doug
>  
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
> Of Cameron Crum
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 1:45 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP
>  
> 
> The seller is not a bank. Why should they take on all the risk? What happens
> if the buyer is a complete imbecile and runs the network into the ground and
> defaults on payments? Now you are in court suing for money you will most
> likely never see, and even if you retake possession of the network, it may be
> in shambles or most of your customers have left. We walked away from a couple
> of buyers who would not pony up the cash. I'd say as one who sold a wisp, if
> the buyer can't afford it, or can't arrange their own financing, you don't
> want to sell. 
> 
>  
> 
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Mike Hammett 
> wrote:
> 
> There's many more buyers out there.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> -
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> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>  
> 
> 
> From: "Randy Cosby" 
> 
> 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 11:00:34 AM
> 
> 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP
> 
> Is anyone actually buying right now?  I haven't heard much about the big buyer
> (Jab) lately.
> 
> On 3/19/2014 9:49 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The going rate, we've seen (and has been discussed here many times), is about
>> 1.5x annual revenue
>>> 
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[WISPA] For those of you who rely on public DNS

[Justin Wilson]

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/375278,google-dns-servers-suffer-brief-traffic
-hijack.aspx

Traffic to Google's commonly used public DNS service was rerouted over the
weekend, meaning traffic with Domain Name System resolution queries destined
for Google's servers ended up at a Venezuelan network instead.

UK telco BT's Latin America division in Venezuela became the destination for
the IP address range used by Google, in a phenomenon known as BGP (border
gateway protocol) hijacking, according to monitoring firm BGPmon.


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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth/Performance Test

[Justin Wilson]

http://www.speedtest.net/mini.php


It expires on a regular basis so check on it every so often (every month
or so).

Justin


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-Original Message-
From: Sam 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Thursday, March 6, 2014 at 9:30 AM
To: 
Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth/Performance Test

>Good Morning Folks!
>
>Years ago, I remember installing a bandwidth tester on one of the Linux
>boxes I had running at the WISP my wife and I owned. For the life of me
>I cannot remember the name of it.
>
>Do any of you have one you like enough to recommend? Basically I'd like
>for it to sit in the base of a tower so the users consuming bandwidth
>from that tower can measure their speed without touching my upstream
>provider - they can measure how fast and at what capacity my equipment
>is providing them with service from this server at the base of the tower
>to their equipment at their home or business.
>
>Hopefully this makes sense
>
>Thanks,
>Sam
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Re: [WISPA] remote employee

[Justin Wilson]

It¹s my understanding that contractors can¹t punch a time clock.
Provided you have the legal stuff worked out have him use a ticket system
which logs hours.  If you don¹t have one fresh books is web based and pretty
cheap. You can keep track of projects, open support tickets, bill based upon
those tickets, notes, all kinds of things. http://www.freshbooks.com


Justin


From:  heith petersen 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Wednesday, March 5, 2014 at 1:39 PM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  [WISPA] remote employee

> So, we finally got our former local tech set up at his office at his new home
> 3 hours away. He has tunnel access into our net, access to billing and his
> VoIP phone tied to our switch to make and receive calls on our local lines,
> just like he did when he sat 10 feet from me. So next is to fine tune things.
>  
> We dumped him as a regular employee and moved to contract labor with no
> benefits, basically bumped him to a level where his pay per hour covered what
> he received via benefits, like insurance and vacation. Makes it easier for the
> accountant as she just cuts a check and doesn¹t have to deduct taxes, however
> it now becomes his responsibility to claim wages and pay the taxes.
>  
> What we are working on now is management. My boss wants him to log everything
> he does and pay from there, but to me that seems to be a lot of work. We have
> a web based time clock, but I already have issues with techs forgetting to
> clock in or clock out, I cant imagine it would be better having a guy clock
> out after every single support call. Our phone system can log time on the
> phone and where the calls went to, but of course a guy can be busy updating
> firmware and re-configuring equipment without being on the phone.
>  
> The guy really only wants to clock 4 hours a day, but I need him available off
> an on during the day. He is unique and he could sit at home all day. I would
> almost just pay him 4 hours flat a day to sit and have him there and
> available, but the bosses want to pay him for only what he works, which I
> think puts more load on us deciphering logs to see what he actually worked.
>  
> Anyways kind of a first for us, and maybe a last. Just wondering what others,
> if any, have done. I don¹t want to lose the guy because he takes care of a lot
> of stuff when I am gone and I don¹t have to train him.
>  
> thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Justin Wilson]

Talk to Scott LePere at On Ramp Indiana.

Justin

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From:  Josh Bowsher 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Tuesday, March 4, 2014 at 5:49 PM
To:  "WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org)" 
Subject:  [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

> Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or
> Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service?
> All input is appreciated.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Joshua S. Bowsher
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
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Re: [WISPA] be on the look out for this

[Justin Wilson]

http://threatpost.com/us-cert-warns-of-ntp-amplification-attacks/103573


From:  Gary Garrett 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Saturday, January 18, 2014 at 9:43 PM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] be on the look out for this

> 
>  
> They spoofed one of my IP addresses and sent a NTP request to a time server
> from the botnet with the destination port as 19, chargen which returns a pile
> of random characters thereby amplifying the amount of packets. 4,000
> connections from every IP range you can imagine.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  On 1/18/2014 7:30 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>  
>  
>>   
>> Were you the target or the "source"?
>>  
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  -
>>  Mike Hammett
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>>  
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> From: "Gary Garrett"  
>>  To: "WISPA General List"  
>>  Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:39:21 AM
>>  Subject: Re: [WISPA] be on the look out for this
>>  
>>  
>> We got hit by this. Real Bummer.  4,000 connections pounding ports 123 and 19
>> on one IP address. 30 meg sustained and 70 - 80 meg peaks.  Took down the
>> entire 100 meg fiber due to the massive packets per second.
>>  It is still ongoing but our upstream had to block it at the edge and is
>> still eating the bandwidth. You can not block it yourself so get help right
>> away.
>>  
>>  Why us?  I think a gamer on our network pissed off some hacker in a chat
>> room who had access to a botnet.
>>  You can rent a botnet for $200 a day if you can prove you are not the FBI.
>>  
>>  Gary 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  On 1/17/2014 7:24 AM, Joe Miller wrote:
>>  
>>  
>>>   
>>>  
>>> 
>>> We had a network outage yesterday afternoon, and thanks to Mike Francis at
>>> JMF Solutions the problem went away. So, anyone who needs network helpŠI
>>> would strongly recommend Mike Francis at JMF Solutions.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Kudos to Mike Francis.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> http://threatpost.com/us-cert-warns-of-ntp-amplification-attacks/103573
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Joe Miller
>>>  
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Re: [WISPA] Video of Tower work from Quadcopter

[Justin Wilson]

Well there are good monopoles and there are bad.  No safety climb on one
like that makes it a huge pain.  If it had a safety climb it would be
tolerable. Monopoles present mounting challenges (notice the chain mounts).

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-Original Message-
From: Robert 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Friday, January 17, 2014 at 10:13 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Video of Tower work from Quadcopter

>Yeah, that just convinced me that I will never need that Monopole that
>is for sale...   Sorry...
>
>On 01/17/2014 05:04 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:
>> Very cool!!!  I keep hoping someone will randomly send me one of those.
>> I would take a ton of videos.
>> 
>> Monopoles suck.  It needs a safety climb.
>> 
>> Justin
>> 
>> 
>> From: Gino Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List > <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
>> Date: Friday, January 17, 2014 at 7:52 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org
>> <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>)" > <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
>> Subject: [WISPA] Video of Tower work from Quadcopter
>> 
>> Snip Shot from Phantom Vision 2
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> http://youtu.be/FwavCd5ffHI
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> More to come
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> 
>> g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>
>> 
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> 
>> 787.273.4143
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Re: [WISPA] Video of Tower work from Quadcopter

[Justin Wilson]

Very cool!!!  I keep hoping someone will randomly send me one of those. I
would take a ton of videos.

Monopoles suck.  It needs a safety climb.

Justin


From:  Gino Villarini 
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Date:  Friday, January 17, 2014 at 7:52 PM
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Subject:  [WISPA] Video of Tower work from Quadcopter

> Snip Shot from Phantom Vision 2
>  
> http://youtu.be/FwavCd5ffHI
>  
> More to come
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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Shaper

[Justin Wilson]

+1

Mikrotik is very powerful.   As an alternative you could try pfsense. But
Mikrotik would be my first choice.
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From:  Dennis Burgess 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Wednesday, January 15, 2014 at 4:06 PM
To:  WISPA General List , 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Shaper

> Mikrotik . simple ! J
>  
>  
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> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
> Of Clay Stewart
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:22 PM
> To: tsla...@grundyec.com; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Shaper
>  
> 
> Mikrotik then...
> 
>  
> 
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Troy Slagle  wrote:
> 
> Just speed limiting, not concerned about data capping.  We have some older
> equipment that we does not have CPE limiting so we need an appliance to handle
> the bandwidth control per IP.
> 
>  
> Troy A. Slagle
> Information Technology Manager
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> 
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> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
> Of Clay Stewart
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:10 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Shaper
> 
>  
> 
> Shaper meaning speed limiting, not data amount limiting (Capping)?
> 
>  
> 
> For speed we use built-in UBNT CPE limiting with MT backup limiting.
> 
>  
> 
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Mike Hammett 
> wrote:
> 
> Mikrotik?
> 
> 
> 
> -
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> 
> From: "Troy Slagle" 
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 1:53:40 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Shaper
> 
>  
> 
> I am in the process of looking for a new Bandwidth Shaper, does anybody have
> any recommendations?
>  
>  
>  
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> Information Technology Manager
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[WISPA] Fiber cut in Orlando

[Justin Wilson]

Just as an FYI there is a major fiber cut affecting the Orlando area.  Last
I heard they are having to resplice 400+ fibers.

Justin

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Re: [WISPA] HAM colo costs

[Justin Wilson]

Many folks look at Ham radio as a public service.  Several tower owners 
I
know do bartering.  The hams use pool resources together and can do so in
times of emergencies.  Plus, if they can become a customer they can be an
asset.  During the last snow storm here in Indiana several hams personally
helped me get out to a tower site that was without power.  One of them had
a standby generator which we used to power the site for about 17 hours.

Justin

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-Original Message-
From: "D. Ryan Spott" 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Monday, January 13, 2014 at 11:28 AM
To: , WISPA General List 
Subject: [WISPA] HAM colo costs

>For those of you that own towers or just know... What do HAM operators
>usually get charged for colocation?
>
>
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[WISPA] Friday FS: Various Wireless gear

[Justin Wilson]

I have the following for Sale.

-Cisco 2948G L3 switch. 48 copper 10/100/1000 ports 2 GBIC ports. Includes
rack ears $100
-Mikrotik RB600 with 2 wireless cards and N connectors $50
-Cisco 2950 24 port switch $30
-Cisco 4006 Chassis with cards and power supplies $75 plus freight shipping
-Sony PowerShot 7.2 Megapixel Camera $75
-HP 4000 laser printer. Works good $50
-Routerboard 44 4 port card  $10

Can send more details to those interested

All prices are plus shipping or pickup locally in Indiana

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Re: [WISPA] DDOS attack

[Justin Wilson]

The attacks we are seeing are DNS amplification or open web proxy ports.  If
you have web proxy enabled on your mikrotiks disable that. Same goes for any
unneeded services/packages. Eric Rogers posted a DDOS script awhile back
which works well.

Justin

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Reply-To:  , WISPA General List

Date:  Thursday, November 21, 2013 at 11:06 AM
To:  'WISPA General List' 
Subject:  [WISPA] DDOS attack

> I¹m getting slammed with emails from my provider regarding a possible DDOS
> attacks to several of my IP¹s.
>  
> I¹m using Mikrotik and just trying to figure out how to stop this.
>  
> Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: [WISPA] Surge Protection for UBNT Gear

[Justin Wilson]

These are good.  The biggest thing I see folks overlook is the grounding of
the tower/electrical.  It does you no good to ground stuff if the grounding
plane is not good. I have seen multiple grounds on brand new towers, weak
grounds, and things bonded to the wrong spots.

Justin


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From:  Matt Brendle 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Thursday, November 14, 2013 at 9:46 AM
To:  'WISPA General List' 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Surge Protection for UBNT Gear

> Yep, I have used for both.  There is also another model we are trying out at
> tower sites that slides into a APC surge.  444-APC
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
> Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:31 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Surge Protection for UBNT Gear
>  
> 
> There's no difference between "APs" and "CPE".
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> From: "Sam" 
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:29:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Surge Protection for UBNT Gear
> 
> One last question - the Wireless Beehive web page states these
> suppressors are for CPE. Have you found they work well on the tower for
> the Rockets as well?
> 
> Thanks
> Sam
> 
> On 11/14/2013 08:10, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> > In that case I'd also go with WB.  Look at Matt's suggestion.
>> >
>> > Josh Luthman
>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>> > 1100 Wayne St
>> > Suite 1337
>> > Troy, OH 45373
>> >
>> > I thought the same thing Josh. But our tower guys insist on additional
>> > surge protection. For example, they said:
>> >
>> > "We have a surge protector that we install on the Cambium (Orthogon) PTP
>> > radio product when the radios are mounted up the tower, but it is
>> > proprietary to Cambium since they have their own scheme for powering the
>> > radios over the Ethernet cable where standard Ethernet surge protectors
>> > will not work.  If the radio vendor is not following industry standard
>> > POE pinouts and voltage levels for the cable running up the tower,
>> > finding a suitable surge protector may be difficult unless they are like
>> > Cambium and OEM their own flavor of Surge Protector."
>> >
>> > So I was hoping to find something similar for the UBNT products...
>> >
>> > Sam
>> >
>> >
>> > On 11/14/2013 08:04, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>> >  > Shielded cable and stock poe?
>>> >  >
>>> >  > Josh Luthman
>>> >  > Office: 937-552-2340 
>>> >  > Direct: 937-552-2343 
>>> >  > 1100 Wayne St
>>> >  > Suite 1337
>>> >  > Troy, OH 45373
>>> >  >
>>> >  > On Nov 14, 2013 9:01 AM, "Sam"   <mailto:w...@csilogan.com%0b> > <mailto:w...@csilogan.com>
>>> >  > <mailto:w...@csilogan.com <mailto:w...@csilogan.com
>>> <mailto:w...@csilogan.com%20%3cmailto:w...@csilogan.com> >>> wrote:
>>> >  >
>>> >  > What have you found to be the best surge protection for UBNT
>> > gear? I see
>>> >  > where a couple of guys on one of the UBNT lists suggest a
>> > "Magic-Bullet"
>>> >  > (http://magicsurge.com/catalog/) but I thought I'd ask what the
>> > people
>>> >  > using this every day recommend.
>>> >  >
>>> >  > Thanks
>>> >  > Sam
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Re: [WISPA] Equipment for Fiber+Power to tower top

[Justin Wilson]

We do fiber to the top.  Here are my philosophical thoughts on this.

Get a device that is temperature rated for your environment.  The RB20011's
are fine for our environment.  They are rated for the same temps as the
industrial rated switches we used to use.  If you want a "hardened" switch
be prepared to spend $500-1000 for a managed Industrial switch.  Believe me,
you will want to see what those switch ports are doing so an unmanaged
switch is no good.  Plus you will probably want to run vlans and some other
things at one point.

If you are running clean DC you will find you won't really have a need to
reboot stuff.  Anything you add to the box at the top is something else that
can fail.  The PacketFlux stuff is solid, but yet another thing to fail.
If you are running Canopy then you will have to put more stuff in the box.

We put our routers at the bottom, but that is just our choice.  I know folks
who are putting them at the top. Would save you some labor and cost on
running fiber.

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From:  Chris Fabien 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Wednesday, November 6, 2013 11:01 PM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  [WISPA] Equipment for Fiber+Power to tower top

> I am planning out a site where some of our radios have fiber interfaces and
> the rest are cat5. If we are running fiber up the tower, I think it makes
> sense to just put a switch and POE control at the top and run fiber up to that
> as well. 
> 
> My first thought is packetflux for POE control and a RB2011iLS-IN for the
> cat5->fiber. But this grade of equipment makes me a bit nervous putting up at
> 220ft on a tower. Is there better quality equipment I should be considering?
> This will be a major site for us so $1000 for a hardened switch or media
> converter would not be out of the question, if it's justified.
> 
> Is it better in this approach to bring all the runs (via several fibers) down
> to a router at the base of the tower? This site is all wireless fed so we
> don't really need anything at the base other than power equipment, except for
> the ability to plug in for troubleshooting. Or should I just run power up top
> and put my router right up there too?
> 
> Thanks for your suggestions.
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[WISPA] Moto ptp 250

[Justin Wilson]

Hey all,
I have a weird issue on a moto ptp 250 link.  I have a router /29 between
two routers with two 250s providing the backhaul.  I can ping the units, but
can't web into them.  They don't have telnet or ssh from what I see.  If I
go out and plug directly into them I can get into them just fine via IP.  Is
there something I am missing? It's not firewall rules or anything.

Justin

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[WISPA] Fiber Contractor

[Justin Wilson]

Anyone know a fiber contractor in the Orlando area? Need someone who can
terminate some single mode fiber.

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Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

[Justin Wilson]

The problem with us isn't the party who initiated the complaint. The
upstream providers are getting more and pushy that we need to give them (the
backbone provider) a resolution.  If not they say it violates the Terms of
Service.  Cogent is the worst about this.  We have actually had them turn us
off because we did not answer complaints.

Justin

From:  Jim Patient 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Monday, June 3, 2013 4:34 PM
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Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

> I just respond to them and tell them we would be happy to investigate the
> alleged infringement however, there will be a cost incurred for investigation.
> Pricing for investigating this can be found on http://wifimw.com/civil.asp
> I have never had any of them respond to it in over 3 years.  I guess if any of
> them do, I¹ll cross that bridge when it happens.  I think most of it is
> vaporware.
>  
> Has anyone out here ever actually had a law suit or cops show up over one of
> these? 
>  
> Jim
>  
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
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> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 3:06 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents
>  
> Jim,
>  
> Your policy says that it applies to subpoenas, but what about service of DMCA
> notices without a subpoena attached (such as where a subpoena comes later, or
> not at all)?  
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> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
> Of Jim Patient
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 3:02 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents
>  
> Nope
>  
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
> Of Chuck Hogg
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 2:49 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents
>  
> 
> Curious, has anyone paid yet?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Chuck
>  
> 
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Jim Patient  wrote:
> 
> You can charge them to investigate these complaints.  We reply to the letters
> pointing them to our website with pricing for us to investigate.  So far none
> of them have elected to pay us to find the offender.   Not like it¹s hard for
> us because all of our users have public IPs.
>  
> http://wifimw.com/civil.asp
>  
>  
> Jim
>  
>  
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
> Of ~NGL~
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 2:00 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> 
> 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents
> 
>  
> 
> I am trying to stop or hinder the copyright infringement problem.
> 
> Anyone have a good answer?
> 
> NGL
>> 
>> From: Josh Reynolds 
>> 
>> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 11:46 AM
>> 
>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents -> Steve
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I agree with Steve. There are tons of ways to obfuscate torrent traffic, and
>> VPN/proxy services are gaining in popularity, which makes the traffic
>> encrypted.
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Dayton Hamvention- any other WISPs going?

[Justin Wilson]

My partner Steve Narducci will be setup with his qtenna stuff.  He does
quads or something (not 100% sure what it is). http://www.qtenna.com


-Original Message-
From: Ralph 
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Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:49 AM
To: 'WISPA General List' 
Subject: [WISPA] Dayton Hamvention- any other WISPs going?

>Well it is that time again...
>
>Dayton Hamvention 2013.
>Since many fellow WISPS are also Hams, or they like to go to our events, I
>thought I would make my yearly posting.
>
>This year, about 30,000 Ham Radio operators from around the World will
>converge on the Hara Arena in Dayton Ohio.  Among all the regular things
>you
>might expect is the famous Fleamarket/Boneyard.   There will be thousands
>of
>outside exhibitors there with all sorts of things related to radio and
>wireless.
>
>My Ham groups (Big Shanty Repeater Group and Atlanta Amateur Television)
>will again be in spaces 3829,3830,3831,3832.  We also take all the surplus
>gear from our WISP and make it available as well.
>This year we will have lots of Ubiquiti (pre-M series), some Canopy, some
>Ligowave/Deliberant and of course the Pepwave Surf 200s, which are very
>popular.  
>
>If you are planning to attend, please stop by and meet us/talk shop.   I
>will be there Thursday afternoon (not open to public) as well as Friday
>and
>Saturday all day. If you are going, please drop me an Email.
>
>For Hamvention details:  http://hamvention.org
>
>
>Ralph
>Brightlan.net
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Re: [WISPA] KY show in April

[Justin Wilson]

Hotwire.com is your friend.

From:  Josh Luthman 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Friday, February 8, 2013 11:17 PM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] KY show in April

> 
> Where was 50/night?
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> On Feb 8, 2013 11:15 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller"  wrote:
>>  
>> Many of us are cheap...that's why we're still here. :)
>>  
>>>  
>>> - Original Message -
>>>  
>>> From:  Blair Davis 
>>>  
>>> To: WISPA General List 
>>>  
>>> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:51  PM
>>>  
>>> Subject: [WISPA] KY show in April
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Is anyone else looking to save some cash by staying a mile or  two away
>>> instead of right downtown?
>>> 
>>> To me, $126 a nite +tax is a LOT  for a motel room.
>>> 
>>> Especially when I can find places within 4 miles for  less than $50 a nite +
>>> tax.
>>> 
>>> I can't believe that parking or a taxi will  cost more than $75 a day...
>>> 
>>> Maybe I'm just cheap, but the only time  I've ever paid more than $69 a
>>> night was for a special weekend away.
>>> 
>>> -- 
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>>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Friday FS: Omnitik 5HD

[Justin Wilson]

I would be using them for hotspots if they made a 2.4 GHZ model.  I love
the form factor.

-Original Message-
From: Matt Hoppes 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Friday, February 8, 2013 3:45 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Friday FS: Omnitik 5HD

>I also have one I'll throw into the pot.
>
>Any one else want to dump their Omnitiks?
>
>On 2/8/13 3:43 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:
>> I have a Mikrotik Omnitik 5GHZ AP for sale or trade.  Not much use for
>> this in 5Ghz.  Best offer or trade me for something in the 2.4 GHZ
>>range.
>>
>> http://routerboard.com/RBOMNITIKUPA-5HnD
>>
>> Justin
>>
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[WISPA] Friday FS: Omnitik 5HD

[Justin Wilson]

I have a Mikrotik Omnitik 5GHZ AP for sale or trade.  Not much use for this
in 5Ghz.  Best offer or trade me for something in the 2.4 GHZ range.

http://routerboard.com/RBOMNITIKUPA-5HnD

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Re: [WISPA] Dealing with ice

[Justin Wilson]

RF armor shields and actual ice shields on the tower.  It doesn't take much.
Basically a grate hooked to the tower a foot or so above your antennas.  If
in doubt find the lower marker lights on the tower. They will most likely
have an ice guard above them.  Use that as a design.

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From:  Troy Settle 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Thursday, February 7, 2013 3:08 PM
To:  
Subject:  [WISPA] Dealing with ice

> I have a site that¹s sitting at about 4500¹ that took some pretty serious ice
> damage.
>  
> In short, we¹re using UBNT¹s antennas and the short jumpers that came with
> them.  Lost about a half-dozen of them during a recent storm, which really
> didn¹t even qualify as an Œice storm.¹
>  
> What can I do to help protect these jumpers from getting torn up by ice?
>  
> What was UBNT thinking when they put the RF connectors on TOP of the rockets?
>  
> -Troy
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik cloudrouter..

[Justin Wilson]

RC7 fixes some issues.

Our approach was to VRRP the CCR with an X86 product.  This way if the
cloud core acts weird we simply make it the slave.  No need for a drive.

Justin


-Original Message-
From: Paolo Di Francesco 
Organization: Level7 s.r.l.
Reply-To: , WISPA General List

Date: Sunday, January 20, 2013 12:26 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik cloudrouter..

>Hi all
>
>anybody using this device for BGP and/or towers?
>
>Just wondering the stability of ROS6 and this device... I did not test
>any of these ones, and I am not sure that it's ready to put it into
>production
>
>Thank you
>
>-- 
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>
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>
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[WISPA] spamhero.com any used?

[Justin Wilson]

Anyone ever used spamhero.com?

Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Bullet2 HP reverting to factory defaults!

[Justin Wilson]

+1


From:  Josh Luthman 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Wednesday, December 5, 2012 5:42 PM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Bullet2 HP reverting to factory defaults!

> 
> Water in the line or a busted poe.
> 
> New poe.  Cut a slit at the low point of the cable.
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> On Dec 5, 2012 5:40 PM, "~NGL~"  wrote:
>> I have had 2 Bullet2 HP reverting to factory defaults!
>> 1 was an AP.
>> The other was a client.
>>  
>> They were working just as they should and both did a default change without
>> notice.
>> Both have been installed about 6 months.
>> This happened about 2 days apart.
>> The AP is on one tower and the client's AP is on another tower'
>> Ant ideas as to what is causing this ?
>>  
>> Thanx
>> NGL
>>  
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

[Justin Wilson]

There are several things you can do to alleviate issues. Greg Osborn is
right. Most customers don't know a difference.  We do several "tricks" on
various networks.

1.We do 1:MANY nats at every POP.  This way only those customers at that
site are natted out a Public.  This way the entire network does not go
through a single public IP.

2.We do run the UBNT radios in router mode.  However, everyone goes out the
door with the DMZ enabled with a specific IP on the lag side.  If we have a
customer call and request a public for whatever reason it's a simple
process.  We change the IP in billing, they reboot, PPPoE assigns the
public.  All they have to do is statically set their router/PC ip to the IP
which is in the DMZ.  This works for 98% of customers.

Justin

From:  Arthur Stephens 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Thursday, October 11, 2012 3:46 PM
To:  
Subject:  [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

> We currently use Ubiquiti radios in bridge mode and assign a ip address to the
> customers router.
> He have heard other wisp are using the Ubiquiti radio as a router.
> Would like feed back why one would do this when it appears customers would be
> double natted when they hook up their routers?
> Or does it not matter from the customer experience?
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

[Justin Wilson]

We see 27.3 volts at the battery. And 27.1 volts at the top with no 
load.
 Obviously load will have an impact on this.

Justin

-Original Message-
From: Jeromie Reeves 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:15 AM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

>That depends on wire size. That distance is not going to be ethernet
>so I will assume #12 AWG, 400ft, copper wire, etc. You should be
>seeing a 5.6% drop under a 1amp load or about 25v under load.
>
>
>On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 6:02 AM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>> 27 volts at the base.  DC has very little loss over 400-500 foot
>> distances.  We are seeing about .1 volt loss on a 400 foot run.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Scott Lambert 
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>> Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012 12:16 AM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question
>>
>>>On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 10:14:03PM -0400, Justin Wilson wrote:
>>>>  Many UBNT deployments running at 27volts of clean DC power. Not
>>>> saying it's ideal but it works.
>>>
>>>27v at the ethernet port or 27v at the base of the tower?
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

[Justin Wilson]

27 volts at the base.  DC has very little loss over 400-500 foot
distances.  We are seeing about .1 volt loss on a 400 foot run.

-Original Message-
From: Scott Lambert 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012 12:16 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

>On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 10:14:03PM -0400, Justin Wilson wrote:
>>  Many UBNT deployments running at 27volts of clean DC power. Not
>> saying it's ideal but it works.
> 
>27v at the ethernet port or 27v at the base of the tower?
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

[Justin Wilson]

Many UBNT deployments running at 27volts of clean DC power. Not saying
it's ideal but it works.

Justin

-Original Message-
From: Matt Hoppes 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:25 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

>The forums and Matt Hardy I believe will back this up.  You'll fry at
>over 27 volts.
>
>Kristian Hoffmann  wrote:
>
>>Can you reveal your source?
>>
>>-Kristian
>>
>>On 10/17/2012 06:50 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
>>>
>>> II was told NO!! <27VDC
>>>
>>> Steve Barnes
>>>
>>> General Manager
>>>
>>> PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi 
>>>
>>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>>
>>> *On Behalf Of *Greg Ihnen
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:35 AM
>>> *To:* WISPA General List
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question
>>>
>>> Doesn't UBNT gear take up to 30v?
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Jeromie Reeves
 > wrote:
>>>
>>> Why not run the NSM5 on 24v? Just add a diode or two to the + side,
>>> the 1v drop on them will protect the NSM from
>>> the charge voltage of the bank. $2 fix
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Olufemi Adalemo >> > wrote:
>>> > It just dawned on me that I may have been barking up the wrong tree
>>> > I only have the one NSM5 to connect, I could hook this up to the
>>> parallel
>>> > segment of my battery bank and get only 12v while the rest of the
>>> > installation that's connected in series gets 24v. Do you think this
>>will
>>> > work? Don't really have to worry about the NSM5 running down the
>>battery
>>> > cause load is low and the cable run is under 10m so the voltage
>>drop 
>>> from
>>> > 12v will be negligible
>>> >
>>> > So this is how it would be:
>>> > 24v solar panel connected to 24v charge controller with 4 x 12v
>>> batteries
>>> > connected in a 2x2 series/parallel array. cable connected to the
>>> parallel
>>> > segment of battery bank (theoretically giving 12v to the NSM5),
>>rest 
>>> of the
>>> > load connected to the charge controller at 24v
>>> >
>>> > What do you think?
>>> >
>>> > - - -
>>> > Olufemi Adalemo
>>> > M: +234-803-5610040
>>> > M: +234-809-8610040
>>> > f...@adalemo.com 
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Kristian Hoffmann
>>> mailto:kh...@fire2wire.com>>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Ya, it should be +24 on pins 4,5 and -24/comm on 7,8.  If it blew
>>> up then
>>> >> there was probably a short somewhere.
>>> >>
>>> >> -Kristian
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 10/12/2012 11:11 AM, Olufemi Adalemo wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Ah ok, it is possible that the guys didn't get the polarity right
>>> >> I will check though they swear that they did
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> - - -
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>>> >> M: +234-803-5610040 
>>> >> M: +234-809-8610040 
>>> >> f...@adalemo.com 
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman
>>> >> mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> What voltage were the batteries spitting out?  They charge at 27v
>>but
>>> >>> without a charger put out much closer to 24v until they begin
>>> discharging.
>>> >>> If it fried the radio I would first think that it was connected
>>> wrong, not
>>> >>> that the voltage was too high.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Josh Luthman
>>> >>> Office: 937-552-2340 
>>> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 
>>> >>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> >>> Suite 1337
>>> >>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Olufemi Adalemo
>>> mailto:adal...@gmail.com>>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  What's your typical config for the NSM5?
>>>  Some of my guys just tried to power one off a 24v battery bank
>>(no
>>>  charger connected just battery) and it fried good
>>> 
>>>  - - -
>>>  Olufemi Adalemo
>>>  M: +234-803-5610040 
>>>  M: +234-809-8610040 
>>>  f...@adalemo.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Kristian Hoffmann
>>> mailto:kh...@fire2wire.com>>
>>>  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > We have MT and Ubnt equipment of all shapes and sizes running
>>at 
>>> 27.6V.
>>> > The only problems we've had are a handful of freak RB411s that
>>> won't power
>>> > on with >27V.  Most of the older ones wouldn't kick into
>>overvoltage
>>> > protection until >28V, but we've come across a few odd balls.
>>> >
>>> > -Kristian
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 10/12/2012 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Charger isn't going to spit out 24v for batteries that need
>>charged,
>>> > it's usually 27v.
>>> >
>>> > I was under the impression they would simply lock up and you
>>could
>>> > reboot, or maybe I'm just thinking of MT.
>>> >
>>> > Josh Luthman
>>> > Office: 937-552-2340 
>>> > Direct: 937-552-234

[WISPA] Something to do on a Sunday

[Justin Wilson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrIxH6DToXQ&feature=share  Live Red Bull
Stratos FreeFall.  Around 70,000 feet at the moment.

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Re: [WISPA] Cogent?

[Justin Wilson]

Great network. Great support. Much better than they were 5 years ago.  
As
with any other provider they do have issues from time to time.  It goes
without saying get 2 upstreams and do BGP.

Justin

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From: Adam Greene 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Monday, September 24, 2012 5:31 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: [WISPA] Cogent?

>Hi all,
>
>Cogent approached us recently, trying to sell us a 100M/100M Internet
>pipe. Anyone using them for upstream? Has your experience been generally
>positive or negative?
>
>Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

[Justin Wilson]

They can sniff all they want. It's no different than some unscrupulous
tech plugging into a switch upstream.  SSL banking is encrypted, google
passwords are encrypted, etc. Anyone who is sending unencrypted traffic on
the public Internet can be sniffed any number of places. I choose to not
waste my CPU cycles on encypt/decrypt. We have other forms of
authentication to keep users off the network.

Some things from the UBNT change log:

- Improvement: WPA/WPA2-TKIP security stability improvements in noisy
environments

- Improvement: WPA/WPA2 EAP-TTLS improvements
- Improvement: Connection stability improvement when using WPA/WPA2
security


Some of these are older but we definitely saw the bugs.

-Original Message-
From: Matt Hoppes 
Date: Friday, September 14, 2012 2:47 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Cc: Justin Wilson 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router?

>I've never seen encryption issues when using UBNT gear to UBNT gear.
>Regardless, you should run it because it limits the paths where someone
>COULD sniff your customer's traffic.  Even if your upstream isn't
>encrypted, you not being encrypted just gives someone more space to
>sniff in.  If I was your customer I'd be bailing ship quickly.
>
>
>Matt Hoppes
>Director of Information Technology
>Indigo Wireless
>+1 (570) 723-7312
>
>On 9/14/12 2:07 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:
>> We have had almost zero problems with UBNT gear and lockups.  However,
>> most people disagree with me on my setups.
>>
>> 1.I run zero encryption on the Aps.  Several reasons but the short is
>> 1)UBNT has had issues with WEP/WPA/WPA2 code.  2) my upstream provider
>> is not encrypted so why should I? See my blog for more rants on this.
>>
>> 2.We run Airmax only. No 802.11 clients.
>>
>> 3.We invest heavily in clean power to the Aps.  Conditioned batteries. 3
>> Stages Chargers/power supplies. Fiber up the tower, etc.
>>
>> 4.We are religious about the Client firmware being the same as the AP
>> firmware. The version is not as important as everything has to match.
>>   If the ap is 5.3.5 then all the clients have to be 5.3.5, even if we
>> have to downgrade.
>>
>> 5.We use the priority on the client side. If you have a weak client set
>> them lower.
>>
>>
>> By doing this we have grown from 0 clients to 1500 in just shy of 2
>> years on an all UBNT wireless network. 40+ towers with probably 150+
>> UBNT devices (aps, backhauls). I can't remember a lockup problem due to
>> something not related to the above.
>>
>> Justin
>>
>> From: Doug Clark mailto:d...@txox.com>>
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List > <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
>> Date: Friday, September 14, 2012 1:29 PM
>> To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router?
>>
>> Matt,  Have to disagree with you here.  UBNT equipment does not just
>> run..
>> It locks up for no reason and requires a power cycle in order to
>> come back.
>> If you want equipment that " JUST RUNS "  and requires no
>> baby sitting that equipment has a Cambium logo on it.
>> You pay dearly for it and I have a significant amount in my network
>> but I am not deploying it because the cost is too high and
>> the bandwidth is too low.  UBNT equipment is very high
>> maintainance and super hard to diagnosis what the problem is when
>> you have one.
>> With all that being said I am still currently only deploying UBNT
>> and actually taking down Canopy FSK to replace it with UBNT 2X2
>> ~Doug
>> /---Original Message---/
>> /*From:*/ Matt Hoppes <mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com>
>> /*Date:*/ 9/14/2012 9:42:32 AM
>> /*To:*/ WISPA General List <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
>> /*Subject:*/ Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router?
>> Greg,
>> I don't ever recall seeing bleeding-edge firmware with bugs released
>> from Ubiquiti unless you mean the betas?  But that's what they
>> are... betas.   Since 5.3.3 up to the current 5.5.2 release I
>>haven't
>> had any problems with the final releases of software.
>> I can't count the number of Linksys, DLink, Hawking, whatever
>>wireless
>> routers we've replaced for customers because they had problems with
>> their Internet.  We put in a Power AP-N, or an AirRouter and we
>>never
>> hear from them again.
>> Truth be told... Ubiquiti equipm

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

[Justin Wilson]

We have had almost zero problems with UBNT gear and lockups.  However, most
people disagree with me on my setups.

1.I run zero encryption on the Aps.  Several reasons but the short is 1)UBNT
has had issues with WEP/WPA/WPA2 code.  2) my upstream provider is not
encrypted so why should I? See my blog for more rants on this.

2.We run Airmax only. No 802.11 clients.

3.We invest heavily in clean power to the Aps.  Conditioned batteries. 3
Stages Chargers/power supplies. Fiber up the tower, etc.

4.We are religious about the Client firmware being the same as the AP
firmware. The version is not as important as everything has to match.  If
the ap is 5.3.5 then all the clients have to be 5.3.5, even if we have to
downgrade.

5.We use the priority on the client side. If you have a weak client set them
lower.


By doing this we have grown from 0 clients to 1500 in just shy of 2 years on
an all UBNT wireless network. 40+ towers with probably 150+ UBNT devices
(aps, backhauls). I can't remember a lockup problem due to something not
related to the above.

Justin

From:  Doug Clark 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Friday, September 14, 2012 1:29 PM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router?

> Matt,  Have to disagree with you here.  UBNT equipment does not just run..
> It locks up for no reason and requires a power cycle in order to come back.
>  
> If you want equipment that " JUST RUNS "  and requires no baby sitting that
> equipment has a Cambium logo on it.
> You pay dearly for it and I have a significant amount in my network but I am
> not deploying it because the cost is too high and
> the bandwidth is too low.  UBNT equipment is very high maintainance and super
> hard to diagnosis what the problem is when you have one.
>  
> With all that being said I am still currently only deploying UBNT and actually
> taking down Canopy FSK to replace it with UBNT 2X2
>  
>  
>  
>  
> ~Doug
> ---Original Message---
>  
> From: Matt Hoppes 
> Date: 9/14/2012 9:42:32 AM
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router?
>  
> Greg,
> I don't ever recall seeing bleeding-edge firmware with bugs released
> from Ubiquiti unless you mean the betas?  But that's what they
> are... betas.   Since 5.3.3 up to the current 5.5.2 release I haven't
> had any problems with the final releases of software.
>  
> I can't count the number of Linksys, DLink, Hawking, whatever wireless
> routers we've replaced for customers because they had problems with
> their Internet.  We put in a Power AP-N, or an AirRouter and we never
> hear from them again.
>  
> Truth be told... Ubiquiti equipment just runs... it doesn't need
> rebooted.  It doesn't need babysat.  It just runs.
>  
> No I am not being paid to make these statements.  I just have many years
> working in IT.  I've used Cisco, MikroTik, Alvarion, Motorola and now
> Ubiquiti.  The Ubiquiti equipment just works.  I have a backhaul that's
> been up for over a year with no reboots and no problems.
>  
> Matt Hoppes
> Director of Information Technology
> Indigo Wireless
> +1 (570) 723-7312
>  
> On 9/14/12 11:20 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote:
>> > Are people going to be able to tolerate the bleeding-edge cycle of
>> > bugs/firmware updates that has been the history with their wireless gear?
>> >
>> > Once again they're breaking new ground, this time with low cost/high pps
>> > throughput. Will they be able to make it powerful (rich feature set)
>> > /and/ easy?
>> >
>> > It's going to have to be really good to make people switch.
>> >
>> > Maybe they're going for a niche market of people who want only features
>> > relevant to the WISP market (bandwidth management, bandwidth accounting
>> > etc, vlans) and not people who want a do-all box like MT which has a lot
>> > of features most WISPs probably don't use (BGP and the forwarding
>> > protocols come to mind).
>> >
>> > Greg
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
>> > mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all
>> >
>> > I see that Ubiquiti is launching a new product, a router.
>> >
>> > Well, personally, I do not think that it's a good idea, hard market and
>> > I really do not see a real reason why I should buy the Ubiquiti router
>> > instead of other well knows products
>> >
>> >   From my perspective the value or a core/edge router is not only in >>
the
>> > number of packets, it's more into the number of bugs and instabilities.
>> >
>> > A new product has less or more bugs/instabilities than others working
>> > since years in my network?
>> >
>> > I am not sure that I want to restart thinking new workarounds for a new
>> > brand.
>> >
>> > Comments?
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> >
>> > Ing. Paolo Di Francesco
>> >
>> > Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale
>> >
>> > Sede operativa: Largo

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

[Justin Wilson]

How many of you remember how long it took the Mikrotik product to become
truly stable? I didn't feel 100% comfortable with wired routing until
version 3.x.  Wireless was kinda flaky until 3.x as well. 4.x really
improved things.

It's all about software. At least UBNT has a great knowledge base to work
with from the start.  I look for several revisions before it is ready for
primetime.  Nothing against UBNT, but it's software.

Justin


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Re: [WISPA] Guidance for mounting gear on an AM tower

[Justin Wilson]

It will most likely have to be.

-Original Message-
From: Greg Ihnen 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:31 AM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Guidance for mounting gear on an AM tower

>That was my first thought too, the possible pattern change. The antenna
>might have to be resurveyed after the install.
>
>Greg
>
>On Aug 30, 2012, at 9:27 AM, lakel...@gbcx.net  wrote:
>
>> The station engineer should be the lead information contact. If he is
>>clueless most AM stations have engineering firms on retainer.
>> 
>> Adding equipment to certain stations can change the antenna radiation
>>pattern. Obviously the FCC doesn't lie this.  ;-)
>> 
>> -B-
>> 
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Brian Gray" 
>> To: 
>> Subject: [WISPA] Guidance for mounting gear on an AM tower
>> Date: Wed, Aug 29, 2012 8:43 pm
>> 
>> 
>> Besides staying away from an AM tower, does anyone have any guidance as
>>far as mounting equipment, specifically POE equipment on one without
>>problems for us or the AM tower?
>> 
>> How do I keep AM RF out of my POE cables and my radios / antennas?
>> 
>> How do I ground my gear?
>> 
>> My initial thoughts are:
>> 
>> Install equipment enclosure at base of tower, attached to tower.
>> Run 1" metallic liquid tight (MLT) up tower to aluminum enclosure at
>>200',
>> continue run from enclosure with 1" MLT up to 300' to additional
>>aluminum enclosure
>> run 2 3/4" MLT from 200' enclosure to 2 backhaul radios (probably UBNT
>>NB25 to start with)
>> run 3 3/4" MLT from 300' enclosure to 3 sector antennas (probably UBNT
>>Rocket M2)
>> drill small weep holes in 3/4" runs as they will not be weather tight
>>to radios
>> run shielded cat 5 inside metallic liquid tight.
>> Put 2-3 ferrite cores on the ends of all of the cables.
>> install poe surge arrestors on both ends of cables, just before radio
>>and just before router.
>> wrap rf choke into both ends of a/c power cable running from enclosure
>>to circuit panel
>> No clue on grounding this thing.
>> 
>> Thank you in advance!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Brian Gray
>>  
>> Joink LLC
>> Network Manager
>> 812-231-7087 direct
>> 812-870-3332 mobile
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] FCC broadband deployment report

[Justin Wilson]

I am guessing they get some of the information from the Sam Knows
broadband report.  Over a year ago you could signup on
http://www.samknows.com/ and they sent you a Netgear router with some
custom firmware.  Everynow and then they pull tests from your router.  I
get a report each month on the top speeds, averages, latency, etc.

I am not sure how many of these are out there but it was a pretty 
popular
program with the masses.  I heard a ton of conspiracy theories on the
lists so I doubt many of you have them. I tried to get some of our clients
to do it, but they were too weirded out about the privacy.  I think now
the WISPs are not as represented in SamKnows as they should be.

Justin



-Original Message-
From: Sean Heskett 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:28 PM
To: , , ,

Subject: [WISPA] FCC broadband deployment report

>Hi all,
>
>Sorry for all the cross posts on multiple lists but this seems
>troubling to me.  We submitted our coverage data to the state of
>Colorado and they submitted our data for the national map.  However,
>this FCC broadband deployment report includes this map which doesn't
>show our coverage.
>
>Report: http://www.fcc.gov/reports/eighth-broadband-progress-report
>Map: http://www.fcc.gov/maps/section-706-fixed-broadband-deployment-map
>
>What gives???  WISPA???
>
>Is anyone else noticing their coverage area is not included?
>
>Best regards,
>
>
>Sean Heskett
>ZIRKEL Wireless
>High-speed Internet
>
>www.zirkelwireless.com
>970-871-8500
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Re: [WISPA] Houston TX WISP - looking for 50mb. Anyone?.

[Justin Wilson]

Check out FiberTown. http://www.fibertown.com/
They have a data center in Houston Texas. A good buddy of mine, Greg Sowell,
is a big shot there. :-) Hot them up.

Justin

From:  Tom DeReggi 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Friday, August 17, 2012 12:47 PM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  [WISPA] Houston TX WISP - looking for 50mb. Anyone?.

> Any WISPA members, WISPs or Contractors, serve Downtown Houston, TX?
>  
> If so, I'd like to refer an exciting profitable job to you, for an event.
>  
> (Originally, I was going to fly down and do it, using a 24Ghz link to a nearby
> building with Cogent Fiber. But unfortuantely I have a conflict I cant get out
> of, so my company will be unavailable to accept job)
>  
> If interested, reply to me ASAP, and I'll disclose details.
> There is plenty of time before event date, but I could really use a reply
> today.
>  
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> 301-515-7774
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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Network Software

[Justin Wilson]

Somethings which might help. Depends on what you are looking for:

Visio http://visio.microsoft.com/en-us/pages/default.aspx
Visio is in use by many network departments, especially in corporate america

DIA http://projects.gnome.org/dia/
Can run unde *nix, OSX, and Windows. Requires some tweaking.

OmniGraffle http://www.omnigroup.com/products/omnigraffle/
Mac OSX

SmartDraw http://www.smartdraw.com

LucidChart http://www.lucidchart.com/
This is neat because it can be installed into Google Aps. Downside is it is
a subscription based thing.

From:  Carl Shivers 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:55 PM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  [WISPA] Wireless Network Software

> What¹s a good wireless diagram software?
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Re: [WISPA] 4g?

[Justin Wilson]

Data plans: $50 for 5 GB, $80 for 10 GB. $10 extra per 1 GB over.

That¹s why it doesn't worry me one bit.

From:  Jason Bailey 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:41 PM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] 4g?


> http://www.mlive.com/business/index.ssf/2012/05/new_rural_internet_option_veri
> .html
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Customer's web pages not loading/displaying properly

[Justin Wilson]

I have one customer we are dealing with this. Only happens on his Apple
devices (iPad, etc.) I can't reproduce it in the lab.

Tried adjusting his MTU (PPPoE customer) and other stuff. No Joy.

Justin

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Jones 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:26 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer's web pages not loading/displaying properly

>Misconfigured MTU values will produce results like this, particularly
>noticeable on SSL-enabled websites.
>If you can, try reducing the MTU down to say 1300 Bytes and clamp the MSS
>to 1280 on a customer router to see if the problem goes away, if it does,
>you'll need to work out where the MTU issue is on your network and resolve
>it.
>
>Jonesy 
>
>
>On Wed, 9 May 2012 19:58:28 -0400, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
>> Seen that with Netgear routers and SPI.
>> 
>> Seen it with improperly routed networks.
>> 
>> Seen it with proxy caching.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Josh Luthman
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Seen that on Trango.  Bad RF link.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On May 9, 2012 7:30 PM, "Mark Theis"  wrote:
>>>

 This all started last Wednesday.  We have had about 15 WiFi customers
 that are all getting the same symptoms. Pages will not load properly
 (attached screenshots).  i.e. youtube.com video boxes are just solid
 black with no way to play, this includes videos on msn, yahoo, etcŠ

 Also most of times the page does not load properly (see attached,
>ignore
 the teamviewer box on the images)Š  If someone is able to login to the
 yahoo email they cannot check boxes to delete messages and with
>hotmail
 they cannot select the emails at all.  We have not been able to
>isolate
 any
 commonalities between the customer¹s computers, operating systems,
 antivirus software, routers, radios, frequency, and even access
>points.
 At
 one point, we thought that we had the problem narrowed down to Netgear
 routers but after having a customer bypass it, issue still occurredŠ

 One of the customers had a computer consultant come look at their
>system
 and when they switched to the consultants MyFi the problem stopped...
 Then
 as soon as they went back onto our WiFi connection, the problem
 returned.

 Has anyone had something like this happen to your network?  Any ideas
>on
 where to look next?
 --

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Re: [WISPA] Worlds Largest Hamfest

[Justin Wilson]

Most tower stuff goes pretty quick at Dayton. The hams trade towers back and
forth so it's nothing for them to put up and take down towers, unlike us.

From:  Chris Fabien 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Thursday, May 3, 2012 2:55 PM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Worlds Largest Hamfest

> You guys that have been to the Hamfest before - is there usually a large
> selection of used tower material at reasonable prices?
> 
> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>> Could you let me know what Ubnt stuff you're bringing there?
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Ralph  wrote:
>>> > The Dayton Hamfest!
>>> >
>>> > It is coming up the weekend of May 18th in Dayton Ohio.
>>> >
>>> > We will be there again out in the flea market meeting other Hams, WISPS
>>> and
>>> > generally geeking out.
>>> >
>>> > We¹re going to sell a lot of our surplus stuff we have taken down or don¹t
>>> > need any more , Pepwave, Ubiquiti, Ligowave, etc- all the stuff a WISP
>>> > accumulates.  We usually do well at it.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > So if you are a Ham or just want to see the largest Ham Radio show and
>>> flea
>>> > market in the World, come see us.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > We have these 4 flea market spots
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 3829,3830,3831,3832
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > BTW- My Son is bringing his vinyl cutting setup and trying to earn college
>>> > money by making signs, banners, truck lettering, logos, and anything else
>>> > that can be done with vinyl, so if you need anything- bring your artwork
>>> in
>>> > electronic format.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Website is  http://www.hamvention.org
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Ralph
>>> >
>>> > Brightlan.net
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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Re: [WISPA] Tower Identification - Photos Attached

[Justin Wilson]

>From the top it looks like a Pirod. If the tower came From around you In
Michigan I would lean toward Pirod unless someone else says otherwise.  Just
because they were manufactured in Northern Indiana.

From:  Chris Fabien 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:46 PM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  [WISPA] Tower Identification - Photos Attached

> Can anyone identify this tower?  10ft sections, 19" wide, legs look like 1"
> solid rod, flat bolt flanges between sections.
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris Fabien
> LakeNet LLC
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers

[Justin Wilson]

Part of my point is we don't do computer repair. We are a communications
provider. Some might see an opportunity to upsell the customer to a router.
The margin is not there unless you are doing computer repair and have the
staff for it. We do sell managed services to businesses only, but that's a
whole different animal.  The guy paying $30 a month isn't cost effective to
tweak a router we sold him everytime his pings to xboxlive jump 10ms.

I look at it as Satellite. I know many many people who jump back and forth
to Dish and Directv. Many of them wait until they have problems with the DVR
or receiver. If the provider won't replace it for free they switch and get
the promotion. How many of you have done that? :-) If the customer
associates the router with your service you better be prepared to replace it
should something happen. E

Justin

From:  Justin Wilson 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Friday, April 27, 2012 1:10 PM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers

> Yes there are. But the ones who don't know what you are doing cost you money,
> time, and reputation.
> 
> Had one guy just the other day called every time his Internet went out. This
> had been going on for 3 days.   It would go out for 3-4 minutes at a time.
> He's a gamer and belongs to some Clan.  Guy was so irate one of the younger
> techs went out and sat with him for an hour. During that time his Internet
> went out 3 times.   Tech breaks out a 751, hooks it up, Internet lasts an
> hour. Hooks his router backup and within 15 minutes Internet goes out.
> 
> We were willing to give him the 751 and just charge him for the service call.
> The Customers response was "I paid $200 for this gaming router. If you can't
> make it work I am switching".  Even if we installed our own router he was
> going to hook up his gaming router anyway because the box said "optimized for
> online gaming".
> 
> Service was pulled, he want to the 15 meg Wild Blue, and now he is begging to
> come back because he can't deal with 700ms ping times.
> 
> This customer was so clueless and such a loud mouth he scared away 3 installs,
> not to mention all the support time. That is why we don't install software.
> Most of the time we si the customer in front of the computer and walk them
> through the configuration. No room for "I don't know what they did to my
> computer but now my printer doesn't work."
> 
> 
> 
> Justin
> 
> From:  Al Stewart 
> Reply-To:  , WISPA General List 
> Date:  Friday, April 27, 2012 12:54 PM
> To:  WISPA General List 
> Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers
> 
>> Been following this thread ... seems like you guys assume that ALL your
>> customers, and ALL users of internet are total idiots with crappy equipment.
>> Surely there are some who have decent equipment and know what they are doing.
>> :-)
>> 
>> Al
>> 
>> 
>> -- At 12:53 PM 4/27/2012 -0400, Andy Trimmell wrote: ---
>>   
>>> Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
>>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>>> boundary="_=_NextPart_001_01CD2496.54597EFE"
>>> 
>>> You really think customers listen? I had a lady blame us for lightning
>>> hitting her TV. People are going to blame you regardless of how much money
>>> you lose on them. We also keep routers separate of our responsibility. We do
>>> require our customers to have one at the time of the installation and we set
>>> it up for them.  We explain that our responsibility starts at the little
>>> white/black box (injector) includes the cable and the unit on the roof.
>>> Anything else is their problem.
>>>  
>>> We have a nifty screen that pops up when their router is on DHCP letting
>>> them know that they‚re „internet is working great! But oops! Your router has
>>> lost its configuration‰ „here‚s the instructions in this pdf or you can call
>>> us for a $30 router setup.‰ „you‚re also welcome to bring in the router for
>>> us to configure free of charge.‰
>>>  
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>>> <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> ] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:43 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers
>>>  
>>> They should have no reason to do that and if they do, they're only causing
>>> problems for themselves with double or triple NAT. I make it clear when I
>>> install that the router I give them is the only router they can use and I
>>> will fix/replace

Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers

[Justin Wilson]

Yes there are. But the ones who don't know what you are doing cost you
money, time, and reputation.

Had one guy just the other day called every time his Internet went out. This
had been going on for 3 days.   It would go out for 3-4 minutes at a time.
He's a gamer and belongs to some Clan.  Guy was so irate one of the younger
techs went out and sat with him for an hour. During that time his Internet
went out 3 times.   Tech breaks out a 751, hooks it up, Internet lasts an
hour. Hooks his router backup and within 15 minutes Internet goes out.

We were willing to give him the 751 and just charge him for the service
call. The Customers response was "I paid $200 for this gaming router. If you
can't make it work I am switching".  Even if we installed our own router he
was going to hook up his gaming router anyway because the box said
"optimized for online gaming".

Service was pulled, he want to the 15 meg Wild Blue, and now he is begging
to come back because he can't deal with 700ms ping times.

This customer was so clueless and such a loud mouth he scared away 3
installs, not to mention all the support time. That is why we don't install
software. Most of the time we si the customer in front of the computer and
walk them through the configuration. No room for "I don't know what they did
to my computer but now my printer doesn't work."



Justin

From:  Al Stewart 
Reply-To:  , WISPA General List

Date:  Friday, April 27, 2012 12:54 PM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers

> Been following this thread ... seems like you guys assume that ALL your
> customers, and ALL users of internet are total idiots with crappy equipment.
> Surely there are some who have decent equipment and know what they are doing.
> :-)
> 
> Al
> 
> 
> -- At 12:53 PM 4/27/2012 -0400, Andy Trimmell wrote: ---
>   
>> Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>> boundary="_=_NextPart_001_01CD2496.54597EFE"
>> 
>> You really think customers listen? I had a lady blame us for lightning
>> hitting her TV. People are going to blame you regardless of how much money
>> you lose on them. We also keep routers separate of our responsibility. We do
>> require our customers to have one at the time of the installation and we set
>> it up for them.  We explain that our responsibility starts at the little
>> white/black box (injector) includes the cable and the unit on the roof.
>> Anything else is their problem.
>>  
>> We have a nifty screen that pops up when their router is on DHCP letting them
>> know that they‚re „internet is working great! But oops! Your router has lost
>> its configuration‰ „here‚s the instructions in this pdf or you can call us
>> for a $30 router setup.‰ „you‚re also welcome to bring in the router for us
>> to configure free of charge.‰
>>  
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>> <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> ] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:43 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers
>>  
>> They should have no reason to do that and if they do, they're only causing
>> problems for themselves with double or triple NAT. I make it clear when I
>> install that the router I give them is the only router they can use and I
>> will fix/replace it free of charge if THEY don't break it. If they cause an
>> issue with my equipment or by adding another router and they expect me to fix
>> it, there will be a charge. If they follow my instructions, they will be
>> taken care of.
>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>> How do you handle the customers who then put a link sys behind your provided
>> router?
>>  
>> From: Darin Steffl 
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>> Date: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:38 PM
>> 
>> To: WISPA General List 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers
>>  
>> I understand not wanting to touch the router but I want to control everything
>> up until I hand off to the customer's equipment which means I provide the
>> router.  I hear from too many people that blame their ISP like Charter or the
>> phone company for bad internet when much of the time it is their own wireless
>> router.  That same bad mouthing will happen for my company if the customer
>> continues to use crappy routers so I thought I would provide one to them,
>> configure it, lock it, and replace it if it ever fails.  That way, I am
>> handing out something reliable that works and if they need help, I'm there to
>> fi

Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers

[Justin Wilson]

More faith in them than I do. :-)


From:  Darin Steffl 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:42 PM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers

> They should have no reason to do that and if they do, they're only causing
> problems for themselves with double or triple NAT. I make it clear when I
> install that the router I give them is the only router they can use and I will
> fix/replace it free of charge if THEY don't break it. If they cause an issue
> with my equipment or by adding another router and they expect me to fix it,
> there will be a charge. If they follow my instructions, they will be taken
> care of.
> 
> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>> How do you handle the customers who then put a link sys behind your provided
>> router?
>> 
>> From:  Darin Steffl 
>> Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
>> Date:  Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:38 PM
>> 
>> To:  WISPA General List 
>> Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers
>> 
>>> I understand not wanting to touch the router but I want to control
>>> everything up until I hand off to the customer's equipment which means I
>>> provide the router.  I hear from too many people that blame their ISP like
>>> Charter or the phone company for bad internet when much of the time it is
>>> their own wireless router.  That same bad mouthing will happen for my
>>> company if the customer continues to use crappy routers so I thought I would
>>> provide one to them, configure it, lock it, and replace it if it ever fails.
>>> That way, I am handing out something reliable that works and if they need
>>> help, I'm there to fix it for them.  In my opinion, that should cut down on
>>> tech support calls if the router is stable.
>>> 
>>> I am currently testing the Ubiquiti Airrouters and the TP-Link TL-WR841N
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Josh Luthman 
>>> wrote:
>>>> I would avoid the 751 for now based on my hell of an experience.  That's
>>>> just me.
>>>> 
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 26, 2012 6:27 PM, "Justin Wilson"  wrote:
>>>>> My Take on routers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Off the shelf routers are the #1 trouble issue on the Zig network.
>>>>> Anything from gaming issues, to speed issues, to reliability issues. They
>>>>> account for roughly 92% of all calls.  The first thing we have the
>>>>> customer do after reboots of everything is bypass the router. Most of the
>>>>> time this shows the customer it's their router, or something behind it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In our past life we started out selling routers. We looked for the
>>>>> cheapest ones we could find, which at the time were dlink. What we found
>>>>> was customers then considered that our equipment. "Well the router you
>>>>> sold me went out." was something we heard a lot. Or "I reset the router
>>>>> now you have to come out and configure it"
>>>>> 
>>>>> What we are doing this time around is we have only one officially approved
>>>>> router. The Mikrotik 751. We have a local computer shop which stocks them
>>>>> and sets them up.  What he does as far as support is between him and the
>>>>> customer. I am pretty sure he tells them he is just a retailer for the
>>>>> product and if they want his help he will gladly charge them his hourly
>>>>> rate. All about expectations up front.
>>>>> 
>>>>> By doing all of this we are not in the router business, but the customer
>>>>> gets a solid product and cuts down on our calls. In turn we have a happier
>>>>> customer base. And if need be, we can actually login to their router and
>>>>> do torch, etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Justin
>>>>> 
>>>>> From:  Darin Steffl 
>>>>> Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
>>>>> Date:  Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:31 PM
>>>>> To:  
>>>>> Subject:  [WISPA] Customer Routers
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What are some of you providing for customer wireless routers if

Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers

[Justin Wilson]

How do you handle the customers who then put a link sys behind your provided
router?

From:  Darin Steffl 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:38 PM
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers

> I understand not wanting to touch the router but I want to control everything
> up until I hand off to the customer's equipment which means I provide the
> router.  I hear from too many people that blame their ISP like Charter or the
> phone company for bad internet when much of the time it is their own wireless
> router.  That same bad mouthing will happen for my company if the customer
> continues to use crappy routers so I thought I would provide one to them,
> configure it, lock it, and replace it if it ever fails.  That way, I am
> handing out something reliable that works and if they need help, I'm there to
> fix it for them.  In my opinion, that should cut down on tech support calls if
> the router is stable.
> 
> I am currently testing the Ubiquiti Airrouters and the TP-Link TL-WR841N
> 
> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>> 
>> I would avoid the 751 for now based on my hell of an experience.  That's just
>> me.
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>> On Apr 26, 2012 6:27 PM, "Justin Wilson"  wrote:
>>> My Take on routers.
>>> 
>>> Off the shelf routers are the #1 trouble issue on the Zig network.  Anything
>>> from gaming issues, to speed issues, to reliability issues. They account for
>>> roughly 92% of all calls.  The first thing we have the customer do after
>>> reboots of everything is bypass the router. Most of the time this shows the
>>> customer it's their router, or something behind it.
>>> 
>>> In our past life we started out selling routers. We looked for the cheapest
>>> ones we could find, which at the time were dlink. What we found was
>>> customers then considered that our equipment. "Well the router you sold me
>>> went out." was something we heard a lot. Or "I reset the router now you have
>>> to come out and configure it"
>>> 
>>> What we are doing this time around is we have only one officially approved
>>> router. The Mikrotik 751. We have a local computer shop which stocks them
>>> and sets them up.  What he does as far as support is between him and the
>>> customer. I am pretty sure he tells them he is just a retailer for the
>>> product and if they want his help he will gladly charge them his hourly
>>> rate. All about expectations up front.
>>> 
>>> By doing all of this we are not in the router business, but the customer
>>> gets a solid product and cuts down on our calls. In turn we have a happier
>>> customer base. And if need be, we can actually login to their router and do
>>> torch, etc.
>>> 
>>> Justin
>>> 
>>> From:  Darin Steffl 
>>> Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
>>> Date:  Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:31 PM
>>> To:  
>>> Subject:  [WISPA] Customer Routers
>>> 
>>>> Hey guys,
>>>> 
>>>> What are some of you providing for customer wireless routers if you include
>>>> them in the install as I do?  I currently have a batch of 10 Ubiquiti Air
>>>> Routers and the first two I pulled out are giving me some problems.  Could
>>>> be a bad batch.
>>>> 
>>>> I am also looking at TP-Link as they are about $30 on Amazon with external
>>>> antennas and pretty good reviews.
>>>> 
>>>> TP-Link TL-WR841N
>>>> 
>>>> What are you guys using?
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers

[Justin Wilson]

My Take on routers.

Off the shelf routers are the #1 trouble issue on the Zig network.  Anything
from gaming issues, to speed issues, to reliability issues. They account for
roughly 92% of all calls.  The first thing we have the customer do after
reboots of everything is bypass the router. Most of the time this shows the
customer it's their router, or something behind it.

In our past life we started out selling routers. We looked for the cheapest
ones we could find, which at the time were dlink. What we found was
customers then considered that our equipment. "Well the router you sold me
went out." was something we heard a lot. Or "I reset the router now you have
to come out and configure it"

What we are doing this time around is we have only one officially approved
router. The Mikrotik 751. We have a local computer shop which stocks them
and sets them up.  What he does as far as support is between him and the
customer. I am pretty sure he tells them he is just a retailer for the
product and if they want his help he will gladly charge them his hourly
rate. All about expectations up front.

By doing all of this we are not in the router business, but the customer
gets a solid product and cuts down on our calls. In turn we have a happier
customer base. And if need be, we can actually login to their router and do
torch, etc.

Justin

From:  Darin Steffl 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:31 PM
To:  
Subject:  [WISPA] Customer Routers

> Hey guys,
> 
> What are some of you providing for customer wireless routers if you include
> them in the install as I do?  I currently have a batch of 10 Ubiquiti Air
> Routers and the first two I pulled out are giving me some problems.  Could be
> a bad batch.
> 
> I am also looking at TP-Link as they are about $30 on Amazon with external
> antennas and pretty good reviews.
> 
> TP-Link TL-WR841N
> 
> What are you guys using?
> 
> -- 
> Darin Steffl
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Re: [WISPA] UNBT PowerBridge 10

[Justin Wilson]

Not available in the U.S.

11GHZ or 6GHZ is still the way to go in the lower frequencies.  Too bad
6ghz (and 7 for that matter) still require a 6 foot dish.



-Original Message-
From: Jay DeBoer 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:30:52 -0400
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: [WISPA] UNBT PowerBridge 10

>A) is the PowerBridge M10 actually out on the street or is this an
>"available soon" product.
>B) if it is out is anyone using it?
>
>
>  I'm looking at some new ptp links and am leaning heavily toward licensed
>
>thanks for the input
>
>-- 
>Jay DeBoer
>
>Chief Engineer
>Summit Digital Holdings, Inc.
>100 N Roland St, Suite B
>McBain, MI 49657
>
>Office: 231-825-2500
>Direct: 231-908-0033
>Fax: 231-908-0039
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

[Justin Wilson]

JJ Boyd has quite a few pictures on his blog.

http://www.3dbwireless.com/boyd/?p=647



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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit??

[Justin Wilson]

They are still around. Basically they are hosted radius.

There is not much to their service so they have never maintained their
site very well. But it does work.

Justin

-Original Message-
From: Rick Kunze 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:52:05 -0700
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit??

>I ran across a link to a company called Wireless Orbit.
>www.wirelessorbit.com
>
>I like the service features and all, but the site looks like it's
>been rather idle for a few years.  No action on the discussion
>groups, last posts a few years ago, very few posts, stuff like
>that.  Not to mention the site itself seems only partially complete.
>
>Is anyone familiar with these guys?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Rk
>
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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Justin Wilson]

My point was if Code actually requires it, which in this case it may 
not,
don't replace it because it's an inconvenience.  You are potentially
liable if something were to happen if you are the one who went against
code. Instead find a workaround.  If code doesn't require it, get an
inspector to sign off.

Justin

-Original Message-
From: Matt Hoppes 
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:27:40 -0400
To: WISPA General List 
Cc: Justin Wilson 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

>That's what breakers are for - shorts.
>GFCIs are for quick blows for things like dropping something in
>water.   I still don't understand why it would be required in a tower
>building.
>
>On 3/16/12 11:11 AM, Justin Wilson wrote:
>> But what happens if something shorts and it's traced down to the fact
>> you removed the GFCI. I would not want to bet my business on it. I would
>> have an outlet hardwired into a nema box. That should satisfy code, but
>> I would check.
>>
>> Justin
>>
>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)" > <mailto:o...@odessaoffice.com>>
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List > <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
>> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:00:39 -0700
>> To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
>>
>> Yeah. Drop the GFCI.
>> If an inspector whines about it get his home phone and tell him
>> he'll have to meet you at the site every time it goes down because
>> the GFCI technology is so worthless. It won't take but 2 trips and
>> he'll beg you to take them out!
>> And if you think it's bad now. Just wait till you have to put in arc
>> fault breakers everywhere. The whole house has to have them
>> nowadays. Can't even run a shop vac in my house if it's in one of
>> the rooms with an arc fault. Half my skill saws won't work etc.
>> Good ideas, both. Rotten overly sensitive implementation.
>> The market for used arc faults will be huge sooner than later. Every
>> homeowner with a screw driver will pull them all out and put in
>> normal breakers :-).
>> The NEC is getting to be worse than the dept. of ecology!
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Troy Settle <mailto:tset...@thewiredroad.net>
>> *To:* wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 6:04 AM
>> *Subject:* [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
>>
>> Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our
>> towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to
>> put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have
>> been much worse).
>>
>> Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from
>> happening without violating code?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>>
>> Troy Settle, Network Administrator
>>
>> The Wired Road Authority
>>
>> 1117 E. Stuart Dr.
>>
>> Galax, VA 24333
>>
>> (276) 238-0049 (office)
>>
>> (276) 237-3890 (cell)
>>
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>>
>> 
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Justin Wilson]

But what happens if something shorts and it's traced down to the fact you
removed the GFCI.  I would not want to bet my business on it.  I would have
an outlet hardwired into a nema box.  That should satisfy code, but I would
check.

Justin

From:  "Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)" 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:00:39 -0700
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

> Yeah.  Drop the GFCI.
>  
> If an inspector whines about it get his home phone and tell him he'll have to
> meet you at the site every time it goes down because the GFCI technology is so
> worthless.  It won't take but 2 trips and he'll beg you to take them out!
>  
> And if you think it's bad now.  Just wait till you have to put in arc fault
> breakers everywhere.  The whole house has to have them nowadays.  Can't even
> run a shop vac in my house if it's in one of the rooms with an arc fault.
> Half my skill saws won't work etc.
>  
> Good ideas, both.  Rotten overly sensitive implementation.
>  
> The market for used arc faults will be huge sooner than later.  Every
> homeowner with a screw driver will pull them all out and put in normal
> breakers :-).
>  
> The NEC is getting to be worse than the dept. of ecology!
>  
> marlon
>  
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>>  
>> From:  Troy  Settle 
>>  
>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>>  
>> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 6:04 AM
>>  
>> Subject: [WISPA] Preventing stupid  outages
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of  our towers.  One
>> of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on  some 80 miles just
>> to push a button (yes, it could have been much  worse).
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from  happening without
>> violating code?
>>  
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Re: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters

[Justin Wilson]

The biggest thing I stress with any FM tower is to get an experienced FM
tower climber crew to give your their opinion on the tower before
installing any equipment on it.  Too many times I have seen an FM tower
with poor grounds, missing grounds, improperly installed hardline, etc.
Many times I have found it to be the "tower" more than your equipment.
Some of my guys were on a small FM station with a 2k transmitter.  The
tower had 1 small ground, and was missing the bonding to the tower. The
tower is named sparky due to the RF charging the whole tower.  No amount
of work on the cat-5 could have ever fixed this.

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Re: [WISPA] Air Control

[Justin Wilson]

Once you get above 600 or 700 devices I normally turn polling off.  It drags
down the system way too much.

From:  Josh Luthman 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Mon, 13 Feb 2012 13:05:15 -0500
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Air Control

> Red is offline.
> 
> Haven't seen orange.
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>> If they are gray that means they are not connected. You can Sort By status.
>> Highlight the disconnected ones, right click and hit connect/disconnect.
>> Enter the user and password and wait.  (of course this works if you have them
>> all with the same user and pass) if not you will have to connect one at a
>> time.
>>  
>> If the status light is orange then they are just off-line.
>>  
>> 
>> Steve Barnes
>> General Manager
>> PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi 
>>  
>> 
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of ~NGL~
>> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:25 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] Air Control
>>  
>> 
>> On the All Devices Page. I have green dot on some of the Status indicators
>> for that are on but not all. how do I set it so all devices that are online
>> are green? 
>> 
>> The devices are all Bullets.
>> 
>> Thanx
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Advertising ARIN IPs via BGP

[Justin Wilson]

If they are following proper protocols you have to tell your upstream
what netblocks you are going to advertise to them, they verify this and
write route-maps/filters to allow this through.  They then contact their
upstream and tell them the same thing.  Repeat this up the chain.  It's
one of the very few protections BGP has.

Justin

-Original Message-
From: Roger Howard 
Reply-To: , WISPA General List 
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 10:56:34 -0600
To: 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advertising ARIN IPs via BGP

>This is the way it looked to me, too. I just asked the guy at
>Windstream who is dealing with it. He said...
>
>"Windstream has two Tier 1 providers, Level 3 and AT & T . This allows
>us to have two separate drains to the internet backbone. These two
>providers have two separate processes for setting up the BGP sessions.
> The level 3 has been completed and we are still waiting on the AT & T
>piece to be completed."
>
>That just seems really odd to me. Surely they peer with dozens of big
>providers? Do I know nothing about the way BGP works? (which is quite
>possible).
>
>http://bgp.he.net/AS7029#_graph4
>
>Also, we have an AT&T circuit, running BGP. Surely anything going to
>AT&T's AS# would come in via our AT&T circuit anyway. So how does
>Windstream advertising our block out via AT&T help bring traffic in
>via our Windstream circuit? And by the way, our old IP blocks which
>were handed to us by AT&T, are working fine and the majority of
>traffic is coming in via windstream to those.  So whatever they are
>doing apparently works. Just seems really strange.
>
>On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Andrew W. Smith
> wrote:
>>
>> This should have nothing to do with AT&T. It sounds like Windstream has
>> incorrectly assumed that you are trying to announce something
>> owned/controlled by AT&T, or did you also ask them to allow your AT&T
>>/24s
>> through as well? If so, you might be able to get them to allow the ARIN
>>/21
>> before processing the AT&T /24s.
>>
>> Perhaps forwarding them the results of an ARIN whois showing you fully
>>in
>> control of that prefix could help?
>>
>> Sorry I couldn't help more than confirming that it doesn't appear that
>> you've set anything up incorrectly with AT&T.
>>
>>
>> On 1/26/2012 9:00 PM, Roger Howard wrote:
>>>
>>> Two months ago, we received a /21 direct allocation of IPv4 addresses
>>>from
>>> ARIN.
>>>
>>> We have two geographically diverse upstream providers. One is AT&T.
>>> The other is Windstream.
>>>
>>> The Windstream circuit is considerably cheaper per meg, than the AT&T
>>> circuit. We are wanting to do away with AT&T.
>>>
>>> After receiving the IP allocation, we added it to our BGP configs, and
>>> contacted AT&T and Windstream to have the block advertised out to the
>>> Internet. AT&T got it dealt with within a few days and traffic to
>>> those IPs started flowing in. Windstream we have been fighting with
>>> for two+ months to get it done.
>>>
>>> It's costing us thousands of dollars per month, since we can't do away
>>> with the AT&T circuit until Windstream bring traffic in via their
>>> circuit to these IPs.
>>>
>>> Windstream say they are awaiting on AT&T in order to be able to
>>> advertise them. Can anyone explain to me why this could be the case?
>>> What does AT&T have to do with weather I can advertise an IP block via
>>> windstream or not?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Roger
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[WISPA] Friday For Sale Stuff (alvarion, redline,etc)

[Justin Wilson]

Have the following items for sale:

PolyPhaser IS-50NX-C2-ME
900 MHZ Bandpass filter can be used with Motorola or any other 900 product
New Alvarion SU units
Alvarion sectors
Alvarion Base Units
900 MHZ Omnis (12 Dbi Monsters)
Alvarion Breeze Access
Redline an-50e complete links (antenna, cable, etc.)
Cisco 2950 switches
APC 1500VA 2U rackmount units
Lots of Misc mounting hardware
7/16" to n connectors.  These are a $100 connector anywhere else.

Most have multiple quantities. Much is brand new.  Looking for quick and
fast sales. Things are priced to move as have no need for most of it.

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[WISPA] Level3 issues

[Justin Wilson]

Anyone with Level 3 might be experiencing issues this morning

Level3 Outage - Likely Juniper Bug
<http://blog.phyber.com/level3-outage-likely-juniper-bug>Information
<http://blog.phyber.com/level3-outage-likely-juniper-bug%3EInformation>  is
still limited at this time - at approximately 14:15 UTC an event occured
causing our BGP Sessions with Level3 to reset and re-establish five minutes
later.
There are confirmed reports that this event within Level3 has affected most
of North America. This outage has affected other networks running Juniper
routers with the majority of them seeing their devices core dump and reload.
At this point the speculation is that a new BGP Update Bug within specific
Juniper version trains was just discovered/triggered.
Phyber's engineering staff will be monitoring the situation closely and will
disable our Level3 peerings if necessary to maintain stability of the
network.


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Re: [WISPA] UBNT sectors 120s, 90s, or 60s?

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I would love 90 degree sectors.

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From:  Shane MacDonald 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Wed, 2 Nov 2011 08:58:36 -0600
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  [WISPA] UBNT sectors 120s, 90s, or 60s?

> 
> We are trying to decide which degree Ubiquiti sectors to release in December.
> Our production line can handle two of the three for a mid December release
> date and want your feedback.
> The 120 degree version is pretty much a lock but we want your opinion between
> the 90s or 60s so we release the sectors you require.
> 
> Please reply to the list or send me an email directly as your response will
> weigh heavily on our decision.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Shane MacDonald
> KP Performance Antennas
> Sales Marketing Manager
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Re: [WISPA] Neighbor Sharing Internet

[Justin Wilson]

Can you service those other customers? If not, it opens up an 
opportunity
for yet another revenue stream.  We call it the "network neighborhood".
We all have areas which can't be serviced, and the amount of households do
not justify putting up your own equipment.  This is where you get the
neighbors together and have them foot the bill for a small tower and some
radios.  We have successfully done this many times now with various ISPs.

Either way your customer is in violation in some for or another of most
AUP's.  Instead of firing the customer turn it into a positive if
possible, especially if you can't service the other customer.

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Re: [WISPA] Fiber On Air (gigabit wireless)

[Justin Wilson]

Entirely possible. Bandwidth across it doubtful.

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-Original Message-
From: Josh Luthman 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:56:08 -0400
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber On Air (gigabit wireless)

>I talked with someone Friday that said he had a laser link doing 35
>miles.  It was military or medical, something "high up".  Is this
>possible?
>
>I always imagined the links to be super difficult, but I'm interested
>in any knowledge you have on them.
>
>Josh Luthman
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>Direct: 937-552-2343
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>Suite 1337
>Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
>On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Daniel White  wrote:
>> Where will the link be located?  80GHz is unlicensed in some parts of
>>the
>> world.  In the US, BridgeWave includes the 80GHz license with the
>>radio, so
>> that shouldn't affect the purchasing decision.
>>
>> Taking my vendor hat off, I would avoid FSO if you can.  Very
>>susceptible to
>> changes in the environment, low MTBF, twist/sway is a major concern.
>>
>> If you got any questions - feel free to ask off or onlist.
>>
>> Daniel White
>> Director of Field Engineering
>> BridgeWave Communications
>> daniel.wh...@bridgewave.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jawad A Hai
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 11:03 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber On Air (gigabit wireless)
>>
>> 60 GHZ product (AR60X) is max 2.5 KM only. I just browsed their website.
>>
>>
>> --
>> From: "Josh Luthman" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 6:51 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber On Air (gigabit wireless)
>>
>>> Call Bridgewave.  Your only option seems to be 60 Ghz.
>>>
>>> Why can't you do licensed?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Jawad A Hai 
>>>wrote:
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> I have a requirement to provide gigabit between two sites, fiber is
>>>> one option.
>>>> but the distance is 2.6 KM.
>>>> We have a reseller who came up with gigabit wireless solution.
>>>> its from fsona.
>>>>
>>>> http://fsona.com/product.php?sec=1250m
>>>>
>>>> Have any body used the above or any similar products ?
>>>> Any suggestions.
>>>> Cannot do 5 ghz or licensed microwaves.
>>>> Appreciate your comments and suggestions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Aali
>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Text Message providers

[Justin Wilson]

Is anyone using a service, package, etc. which allows your customers to
opt-in to receive text message alerts? I heard at Vegas some ISP customers
really liked this feature.

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Re: [WISPA] Looking for Linux Consultant

[Justin Wilson]

Basically setup the new server to match the settings of the old one.  I am
talking about mail server, apache, etc.  You then backup the sites within
webmin and then restore on the new server.  Biggest issue I have ever had is
with servers running postfix.  You have to make sure things like username
format, Maildir location and permissions, etc. all match up across the
board.  What I do is I have a test domain, in my case it's a site dedicated
to my Import tuner car.  It has a few e-mail addresses, a MYSQL database,
and some other things.  It's a live site so I use it to test.  I always move
it over first and let it sit for 4-5 days.  I test mail, reachability, etc.
If all goes well then I move the rest over.  Our biggest server has 150
virtual domains under virtualmin.

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From:  Gino Villarini 
Date:  Tue, 18 Oct 2011 19:59:10 +0000
To:  Justin Wilson , WISPA General List 
Subject:  RE: [WISPA] Looking for Linux Consultant

> We are using it!, whasts the procedure?
>  
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> 787.273.4143
> 
> From: Justin Wilson [mailto:li...@mtin.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:54 PM
> To: WISPA General List; Gino Villarini
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for Linux Consultant
>  
> 
>If you are using Centos I would look into Virtualmin and webmin.
> The main reason I say this is Virtualmin allows you to migrate to new servers
> very easily.  Takes some setting up, but I have been doing it since CentOS 3
> and have no issues.  Migrated to new hardware and OS probably 7 times now.
> 
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> From: Gino Villarini 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 01:46:21 +
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for Linux Consultant
> 
>  
>> 
>> Will try, thanks
>>  
>> 
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> 787.273.4143
>> 
>> From:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
>> Of Scott Reed
>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:26 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for Linux Consultant
>>  
>> DNS server
>> Load the new boxes with the new OS.
>> Make sure DNS is working.
>> Copy the data directory and /etc/named.conf
>> Restart named
>> 
>> Web
>> Load the new box with the new OS
>> Make sure Apache works.
>> Move the web directories to the new box with /etc/httpd/httpd.conf
>> Restart httpd
>> 
>> On 10/17/2011 8:47 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> Need to move 2 Centos 4.3 DNS Server records to 2 new Centos 6 Servers, Also
>> move a Centos 4.3 web hosting server to Centos 6 Server
>>  
>> Offlist for more info
>>  
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> 787.273.4143
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for Linux Consultant

[Justin Wilson]

If you are using Centos I would look into Virtualmin and webmin.  The main
reason I say this is Virtualmin allows you to migrate to new servers very
easily.  Takes some setting up, but I have been doing it since CentOS 3 and
have no issues.  Migrated to new hardware and OS probably 7 times now.

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From:  Gino Villarini 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Tue, 18 Oct 2011 01:46:21 +
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Looking for Linux Consultant

> Will try, thanks
>  
> 
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> 787.273.4143
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
> Of Scott Reed
> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:26 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for Linux Consultant
>  
> DNS server
> Load the new boxes with the new OS.
> Make sure DNS is working.
> Copy the data directory and /etc/named.conf
> Restart named
> 
> Web
> Load the new box with the new OS
> Make sure Apache works.
> Move the web directories to the new box with /etc/httpd/httpd.conf
> Restart httpd
> 
> On 10/17/2011 8:47 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> Need to move 2 Centos 4.3 DNS Server records to 2 new Centos 6 Servers, Also
> move a Centos 4.3 web hosting server to Centos 6 Server
>  
> Offlist for more info
>  
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> 787.273.4143
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> 
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Re: [WISPA] New Stuff from MUM

[Justin Wilson]

Some links

http://gregsowell.com/?p=3253


http://www.mikrotik-routeros.com/?p=254


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From:  Scott Reed 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:01:45 -0400
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] New Stuff from MUM

> 
>  And you would assume everyone that wants to know about MT uses Facebook
> because ?
>  
>  On 10/14/2011 2:01 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Check our facebook page J
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
>>  Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>>  Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>> <http://www.linktechs.net/>
>>  LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training <http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com/>  -
>> Author of "Learn RouterOS" <http://routerosbook.com/>
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Gino Villarini
>>  Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:16 AM
>>  To: a...@afmug.com; WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org)
>>  Subject: [WISPA] New Stuff from MUM
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Any new announcements in hardware?
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Gino A. Villarini
>>  
>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>>  
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>  
>> 787.273.4143
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Re: [WISPA] mikrotik issue.

[Justin Wilson]

Interference, poor pigtail, something to cause the RF side of it to suffer.

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From:  Eric Roth 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Thu, 6 Oct 2011 14:29:44 -0400 (EDT)
To:  'WISPA General List' 
Cc:  
Subject:  [WISPA] mikrotik issue.

> I have a RB411 that continuously gets disconnected from the access unit with
> the following message in the log. It happens every couple of minutes.
>  
> disconnected, extensive data loss.
>  
> Has anyone seen this before and have any suggestions on how to fix it?
>  
> The signal strength is -64db and the client has an 18db gain yagi antenna. The
> cell is running n-stream and configured for 802.11b.
>  
> Thanks
>  
> 
> --Eric Roth
> Technology Specialist
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Re: [WISPA] Wispalooza!

[Justin Wilson]

What happens in vegasgoes on facebook


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-Original Message-
From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists 
Organization: ImageStream
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 12:55:18 -0400
To: 'WISPA General List' 
Subject: [WISPA] Wispalooza!

>Hi All,
>
>We are rapidly approaching our max number of attendees.  If you want to
>go,
>sign up now!
>
>If you miss it, you won't be able to say that you were there!  :-)
>
>Regards,
>
>Jeff
>
>
>Jeff Broadwick
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>800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can)
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Re: [WISPA] Power for tower sites

[Justin Wilson]

I have seen the all DC thing done a few ways.

1.2 deep cycle batteries for the 24 volt stuff and 1 12 volt for routers.
This requires 2 chargers.  The advantage is you can power the routers
without them overheating, especially the 450's.

2.You can get a box which steps down voltage from 24 to 12.

We will be at Vegas and can show you how we do things.

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From:  Robert Kim App and Facebook Marketing 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:22:19 -0700
To:  , WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Power for tower sites

> Scott... i forwarded this to my engineering buddy at a major Wisp... ... lets
> see he can chip in some.
> 
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Scott Carullo 
> wrote:
>> 24v to poe is fine, we don't power anything directly except routers
>> 
>> Scott Carullo
>> Technical Operations
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Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

[Justin Wilson]

Start reading here for ISPS:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Copyright_Infringement_Liability_Limita
tion_Act#Other_Defenses_for_OSPs

The legal advice I have been given has always been e-mail is not a legal
document.  Responding to e-mails is more of a courtesy/CYA than anything.
Make sure you have a designated agent.  All official communication is
supposed to go through this agent.

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-Original Message-
From: "Forrest W Christian (PF Lists)" 
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 21:55:20 -0600
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

>For those of you who are just ignoring these:  I'd recommend you read up
>on the DMCA safe harbor rules  See
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Copyright_Infringement_Liability_Limit
>ation_Act
>
>In short, if you follow the steps under the law, you have an affirmative
>defense against the copyright holders suing you for contributory
>infringement.
>
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Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

[Justin Wilson]

If I get repeated requests for the same customer my response to a customer
is to tell them they may have a virus, spyware, or a teenager.  I spin it
where the very act of doing this is slowing down the customer's connection.
If they are a customer who seems reasonable it might be prudent to mention
such activities could expose them to lawsuits by movie companies.  I don't
mention illegal as to not freak out most customers.   On the flipside you
have the customers who share files just to be defiant to the RIAA.  I don't
have time to debate them.

I typically do not pass on the request directly to the customer.  Too many
shady firms out there. If the customer contacts them they can be bullied
into paying money.  I just file these requests away and do respond to CYA.

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From:  Andy Trimmell 
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Date:  Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:42:05 -0400
To:  WISPA General List 
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

> Ya we don¹t give any customer information to anyone. We just pass along the
> takedown notice to the customer and tell them to stop. We were just wondering
> if anyone had any kind of official template or if they even passed along any
> notice to the customer at all stating they have been downloading copyrighted
> material. 
>  
> Does your customers even know they have been doing anything wrong before a
> subpoena is made? We¹ve never received any of these until we switched
> providers. 
>  
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
> Of Justin Wilson
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:17 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown
>  
> 
> My .02
> 
>  
> 
> It's not illegal until a court, or law enforcement agency presents
> paperwork it is.  It is not up to the ISP to be the Police.  To me that¹s a
> loosing scenario to determine what is lawful and what is not.  Let the experts
> determine that.
> 
>  
> 
> My response to these is something along these lines:
> 
>  
> 
> "Thank you for contacting us. We would be glad to cooperate with
> any official legal request. Please have your attorneys forward all appropriate
> paperwork to .
> 
>  
> 
> If you want to take the extra step throw in there you charge an
> administrative fee for providing any information on this customer. After legal
> paperwork has been cleared by your attorney of course.  After all, you are
> helping these people (most of these are from law firms seeking a bounty) make
> money themselves.
> 
>  
> 
> The only way I would turn over any sort of customer info is due to
> a subpoena or other such legal document.  Lessens your exposure for lawsuits
> from the customers based upon privacy concerns.
> 
>  
> 
> Justin
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> From: Andy Trimmell 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 13:16:47 -0400
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> Subject: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown
> 
>  
>> 
>> How do you all respond to these takedowns? Do we need to respond back to our
>> provider with anything? We¹ve just been passing the information onto the
>> customer in jeopardy. Are we doing all of our part? Most of the time its kids
>> downloading games. So we send the parents an email and phone call talking
>> about the takedown request. Is that enough or should we be responding to the
>> provider that we contacted the pesky kids that foiled everything?
>>  
>> Thanks
>>  
>> Andy Trimmell
>> Network Administrator
>> atrimm...@precisionds.com
>> 317.831.3000 ext 211
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