[WISPA] Pulling my hair out
Earlier this week one of the APs running 900MHz with SR9 in RB433s with RB133 and RB411 clients started dropping clients and they would come right back. I tried different frequencies, etc. Then it cleared up in the morning. OK, maybe it is RTK or the weather or ... Happened again the next night night. Replaced the AP electronics, antenna and 65' of LMR400. Nothing I did seemed to make a bit of difference. I did have a couple of clients that were actually off wrong sector, behind this one. Changed them to the proper AP this morning. 5:30 tonight 2 customers called within 2 minutes. Both off the AP in question. I looked. None of the 14 clients would stay registered for more than 10 seconds. Wildest registration table I have ever watched. Nothing seemed to make a difference. I finally moved everyone to the access list and disabled them. Enabled them one-by-one. Found tow that would drop and come back and then apparently knock down everyone else. Left them disabled and enabled all the others. Let it run that way 1 hour with no drops. Enabled on of the 2 clients that was disabled. It has now been up for over 52 minutes. Turn on the last one and all goes out to lunch. Turn it off and everything is OK. Obviously that CPE has a problem. Two reasons for the post: 1) Clients can cause the whole AP to misbehave. 2) Anyone have any trouble shooting tips on how to know whether to check AP or clients first? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Pulling my hair out
That might work, but again this evening the CPEs won't stay up long enough to log in and do anything. I did climb up to the antenna on the worst offender from last night. It is shooting right through a very pretty yellow and orange tree. October is a pain for 900 around here. My theory is the color in the leaves is from the metals that get left behind. Thus we have a bunch or mirrors making all sorts of goofy signal patterns. It is probably worse in the late afternoon/early because everything is warmer. It settled down on its own sometime around 10:00PM yesterday. On 10/7/2011 3:53 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote: On 10/06/2011 05:52 PM, Scott Reed wrote: Two reasons for the post: 1) Clients can cause the whole AP to misbehave. 2) Anyone have any trouble shooting tips on how to know whether to check AP or clients first? In the worst conditions, a MT CPE with default configuration will retransmit the same frame 200-300 times per second at the lowest rate, consuming all available bandwidth. I've observed this in the field and on the bench. Getting stats from the AP/CPE to easily show when this is happening has proven quite difficult. I had to use a third station to do a TZSP sniff and analyze the data in wireshark in order to observe it. Setting frame-lifetime=1 (1 centi-second/10milliseconds), will drop that number to 20-30 frames per second. It sets a hard limit to how long the AP or CPE will spend retransmitting the same frame. So to answer your second question, you can try setting frame-lifetime=1 on all the CPEs. It shouldn't make a difference on good CPEs, but it will likely make the bad CPEs worse, bringing them to light. HTH, -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Pulling my hair out
Tempting, but I don't climb so can't get the right branches and the trees are way to big for my little saw. On 10/7/2011 5:01 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: Leaf Blower Chain Saw Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 4:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pulling my hair out That might work, but again this evening the CPEs won't stay up long enough to log in and do anything. I did climb up to the antenna on the worst offender from last night. It is shooting right through a very pretty yellow and orange tree. October is a pain for 900 around here. My theory is the color in the leaves is from the metals that get left behind. Thus we have a bunch or mirrors making all sorts of goofy signal patterns. It is probably worse in the late afternoon/early because everything is warmer. It settled down on its own sometime around 10:00PM yesterday. On 10/7/2011 3:53 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote: On 10/06/2011 05:52 PM, Scott Reed wrote: Two reasons for the post: 1) Clients can cause the whole AP to misbehave. 2) Anyone have any trouble shooting tips on how to know whether to check AP or clients first? In the worst conditions, a MT CPE with default configuration will retransmit the same frame 200-300 times per second at the lowest rate, consuming all available bandwidth. I've observed this in the field and on the bench. Getting stats from the AP/CPE to easily show when this is happening has proven quite difficult. I had to use a third station to do a TZSP sniff and analyze the data in wireshark in order to observe it. Setting frame-lifetime=1 (1 centi-second/10milliseconds), will drop that number to 20-30 frames per second. It sets a hard limit to how long the AP or CPE will spend retransmitting the same frame. So to answer your second question, you can try setting frame-lifetime=1 on all the CPEs. It shouldn't make a difference on good CPEs, but it will likely make the bad CPEs worse, bringing them to light. HTH, -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2085/4543 - Release Date: 10/07/11 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New Stuff from MUM
And you would assume everyone that wants to know about MT uses Facebook because ? On 10/14/2011 2:01 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: Check our facebook page J *_Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer_** **Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com/ - Author of Learn RouterOS http://routerosbook.com//* *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini *Sent:* Friday, October 14, 2011 10:16 AM *To:* a...@afmug.com; WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org) *Subject:* [WISPA] New Stuff from MUM Any new announcements in hardware? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2090/4551 - Release Date: 10/14/11 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for Linux Consultant
DNS server Load the new boxes with the new OS. Make sure DNS is working. Copy the data directory and /etc/named.conf Restart named Web Load the new box with the new OS Make sure Apache works. Move the web directories to the new box with /etc/httpd/httpd.conf Restart httpd On 10/17/2011 8:47 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Need to move 2 Centos 4.3 DNS Server records to 2 new Centos 6 Servers, Also move a Centos 4.3 web hosting server to Centos 6 Server Offlist for more info Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2090/4557 - Release Date: 10/17/11 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fiber Termination Kit
Now that I figured out what I was doing wrong, I really like the AFL FAST connectors. I use their fiber, connectors and tool kit. Tools just under $2K. Connectors $12.00 each. Fiber price is competitive. I purchase from TeamSales in Indianapolis. Contact is Stasia Davis, sta...@teamsalesinc.com On 10/25/2011 4:42 PM, Matt wrote: We are looking to trench some fiber to a new tower a few hundred foot away. Was wandering how cost effective to cut and terminate our own fiber for this would be? Its close enough for cat-6 to reach but was thinking just dropping fiber instead to avoid needing arrestors. What fiber does everyone recommend and what connector kit? If its to expensive may just get some premade fiber runs or go cat-5/6. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1834 / Virus Database: 2092/4573 - Release Date: 10/25/11 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mounting bracket for power supply
Try MeanWell AD-155C Also gives you battery backup capability. On 10/31/2011 2:25 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Need a little more current than that - Reply message - From: Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] mounting bracket for power supply Date: Mon, Oct 31, 2011 2:04 pm On 10/31/2011 09:10 AM, Kevin Owen wrote: Maybe someone on the list has a good source for the following… We are looking for some sort of a mounting bracket for a power supply. (Happens to be for a DragonWave radio) The power supply is 6”x1.25”x2.75”. We have a client that wants the power supplies placed in a “sleeve” or otherwise mounted to the wall. We have typically used zip ties or plumbers tape. They want them more secured than with a simple “strap” across them holding them to the wall. Does anybody have a source for such a thing? If you don't mind replacing the power supply along with it... http://www.powergatellc.com/mean-well-rs-50-48-power-supply.html They sell brackets for them as well. -- Kristian Hoffmann System Administrator kh...@fire2wire.com http://www.fire2wire.com Office - 209-543-1800 | Fax - 209-545-1469 | Toll Free - 800-905-FIRE WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1834 / Virus Database: 2092/4586 - Release Date: 10/31/11 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mounting bracket for power supply
I am moving the the DR series because of form factor only. I like the 155 series, the are just bigger. There is a DIN rail mount for them as well. Yes, they keep the batteries charged and use the batteries to power the equipment when there is no AC. Has an adjustment pot for output voltage as well. On 10/31/2011 3:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: That looks like a better solution then the DR-UPS40 and SDR-120-24 that you recommended earlier. Is it? Does it charge the batteries and will it feed the equipment from the batteries when AC power is out? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Scott Reedsr...@nwwnet.net wrote: Try MeanWell AD-155C Also gives you battery backup capability. On 10/31/2011 2:25 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Need a little more current than that - Reply message - From: Kristian Hoffmannkh...@fire2wire.com To:wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] mounting bracket for power supply Date: Mon, Oct 31, 2011 2:04 pm On 10/31/2011 09:10 AM, Kevin Owen wrote: Maybe someone on the list has a good source for the following… We are looking for some sort of a mounting bracket for a power supply. (Happens to be for a DragonWave radio) The power supply is 6”x1.25”x2.75”. We have a client that wants the power supplies placed in a “sleeve” or otherwise mounted to the wall. We have typically used zip ties or plumbers tape. They want them more secured than with a simple “strap” across them holding them to the wall. Does anybody have a source for such a thing? If you don't mind replacing the power supply along with it... http://www.powergatellc.com/mean-well-rs-50-48-power-supply.html They sell brackets for them as well. -- Kristian Hoffmann System Administrator kh...@fire2wire.com http://www.fire2wire.com Office - 209-543-1800 | Fax - 209-545-1469 | Toll Free - 800-905-FIRE WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1834 / Virus Database: 2092/4586 - Release Date: 10/31/11 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1834 / Virus Database: 2092/4586 - Release Date: 10/31/11 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mounting bracket for power supply
This is not quite right. Mine all run the battery charge voltage higher than the set voltage. The battery voltage is not settable. On 10/31/2011 4:05 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote: On 10/31/2011 12:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: That looks like a better solution then the DR-UPS40 and SDR-120-24 that you recommended earlier. Is it? Does it charge the batteries and will it feed the equipment from the batteries when AC power is out? The AD-155 will charge the batteries to whatever you set output voltage to. By default, it's set to 24.0V (on the B model) so your batteries will never fully charge. You have to set it to whatever you choose for your float voltage (like 27.6V) to get a full charge. On AC power loss, the output remains tied to the batteries and will power your equipment (unregulated) until the batteries are nearly fully discharged. A variable LVD would be nice, but it does completely shut down once the batteries have hit the low mark, instead of cycling on/off as you battery turns to mush. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How to control your mikrotik zombies ;)
I have used expect and telnet. Butch Evans has some scripts for doing something similar. On 11/2/2011 6:14 AM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi all I need to do update some parameters into the customer CPEs and it would be boring to do it for hundreds of them. Therefore I was wondering what is the best way to write a script to tell to a linux box to log into the cpe and do the following: 1) read some firewall parameters 2) add some firewall parameters 3) check the configuration etc I have the IPs and passwords, I jut find it boring to do it by hand. About the API, the CPEs are different versions of mikrotik so I don't know if it's a good idea to start thinking about the API. Any example Thank you in advance -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP
IURC might get quicker results if you have to file a complaint. On 11/9/2011 9:10 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: I live in an area in Eastern Indiana that used to be Verizon and now is Frontier. I have gone to a VoIP system at my office and love it. I got an ATA to setup my home, got the temp number and started the port process and My home exchange cannot be ported by my provider. It is different than the office exchange. They are checking with Level3 to see if there is anything more that can be done. I want to start offering VoIP to that exchange but if I can’t get the port to go I will have very few takers. What is my next step. What should it do before I file a complaint with the FCC? Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4605 - Release Date: 11/08/11 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Surge Arrestor Bank
Check the Saginaw Controls and Engineering line of boxes. www.sce.com On 11/17/2011 4:29 PM, Matt wrote: I'd install a small cabinet and use these http://wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=38 I would probably use the DIN rail mounts personally http://wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=39 Know of a nice outdoor box that I can fit 5 of these DIN mount units in? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1872 / Virus Database: 2092/4622 - Release Date: 11/17/11 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Surge Arrestor Bank
Guess the right link would be good http://www.saginawcontrol.com/ On 11/18/2011 6:15 AM, Scott Reed wrote: Check the Saginaw Controls and Engineering line of boxes. www.sce.com On 11/17/2011 4:29 PM, Matt wrote: I'd install a small cabinet and use these http://wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=38 I would probably use the DIN rail mounts personally http://wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=39 Know of a nice outdoor box that I can fit 5 of these DIN mount units in? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1872 / Virus Database: 2092/4622 - Release Date: 11/17/11 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] BridgeMaxx Status
I just had a friend call wondering if BridgeMaxx was having issues. Issues as in their phone in 1 city is apparently disconnected and in another just rings forever. Since he has their service and it is out, he was wondering what is going on. Any one heard anything about BridgeMaxx problems this week? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference
I have a customer that has determined that every time the phone rings, the Internet goes down. Once the phone is answered, the Internet works. We are using 2.4GHz to the house, with an integrated Arc panel on the roof. The customer has checked and the phone does not have a channel selection button. Anyone have suggestions as to how to get the phone to not kill the wireless link? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference
No idea what model. I will offer them a phone next week, at least one to try and see what happens. On 12/28/2011 5:33 AM, Bret Clark wrote: What model phone is it anyway? Noise floor would have to get pretty high to knock the signal out completely, unless you have poor fade margin to begin with. On 12/27/2011 09:35 PM, Gary Garrett wrote: Yeah, I am sure there is a huge amount of data transferred in the wake up command. command is probably just all 0's or all 1's like the old frame relay connections use to tell the other end to loop back. The actual talk data is only 32k or so both ways 1/2 duplex. Multi line phones would need to get a lot of info from the base about what is about to happen, what lights to lite up etc. I have looked at cordless phones on a spectrum analyzer and the are way Spread spectrum, not really a channelized thing. No big power spike but a very low and wide waveform. Definitly go for the DECT. On 12/27/2011 6:15 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What I'm getting at is what initiates the ring. The copper pair hits the base unit and then tells all the handsets in the house to ring. I'm suggesting that this is 2.4 and what causes the SM's problem. I've seen a ringing telephone cause a Dlink router to reboot 100% of the time, it was easily reproducible. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4707 - Release Date: 12/27/11 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Interference in the house
Telephones, baby monitors, for sure. In other environments, I have seen microwaves and copiers mess with wired connections, why not wireless? On 1/5/2012 11:41 AM, Martha Huizenga wrote: Anyone encountering wireless interference inside the house? We have several clients who have had this problem (they've been customers for years) and now they are experiencing problems with interference. For a couple it's been a wireless doorbell. Anyone seen anything else that has caused a problem? What about the new Verizon Wireless home phone service that you get a box for and run off the mobile 4G network? Thanks Martha -- Martha Huizenga 202-546-5898 */DC Access, LLC http://www.dcaccess.net/ Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet! Connecting the Capitol Hill Community Join us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/DCAccess or follow us on Twitter http://twitter.com/dcaccess /* */Is your Message Lost in Cyberspace? Promote your business locally with HillAds http://www.hillads.com/* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4724 - Release Date: 01/05/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Webpage proof read.
In the paragraph about advertising, I would spell out advertise, seems more professional and Webster says advert is British.. On 1/5/2012 10:11 PM, Roger Howard wrote: Hi guys, I'm considering adding this page to our website. http://www.g5i.net/whyg5.php I wouldn't mind a proof read or two if any of you have time. Any corrections or input, grammatical or otherwise appreciated. Feel like the points should be in a different order? More graphics to be added. I'll probably add a pic or two of ubnt gear. Cheers, Roger G5 Internet, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4724 - Release Date: 01/05/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers
I have a link that went bonkers last Saturday or Sunday and it has me stumped. RB433AH with XR5 at each end. Signals running around -69/-71. CCQ is the goofy one. Most of the time one direction is in the 50% range, but varies quite a bit. The other direction ranges from 16% to 100%. Generally if I see it getting close to 100% I know the link is going to drop. It comes right back up, usually at about 50%. I have tried 20MHz channels, 10MHz channels, 5MHz channels with about the same results from all. I have tried 5.2-5.3 frequencies and 5.7-5.8 frequencies. The higher frequencies work better, but still not well. All of the hardware except one 60' piece of LMR as been replaced. Ask me some questions and offer some suggestions as this one has me totally stumped. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers
Generally running 95 - 100. On 1/28/2012 5:14 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: What's your noise floor look like? -70 is pretty low. On Jan 28, 2012, at 17:05, Scott Reedsr...@nwwnet.net wrote: I have a link that went bonkers last Saturday or Sunday and it has me stumped. RB433AH with XR5 at each end. Signals running around -69/-71. CCQ is the goofy one. Most of the time one direction is in the 50% range, but varies quite a bit. The other direction ranges from 16% to 100%. Generally if I see it getting close to 100% I know the link is going to drop. It comes right back up, usually at about 50%. I have tried 20MHz channels, 10MHz channels, 5MHz channels with about the same results from all. I have tried 5.2-5.3 frequencies and 5.7-5.8 frequencies. The higher frequencies work better, but still not well. All of the hardware except one 60' piece of LMR as been replaced. Ask me some questions and offer some suggestions as this one has me totally stumped. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4772 - Release Date: 01/28/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers
No, we replaced it for a few minutes with one not mounted on the tower and didn't see any changes. On 1/28/2012 5:35 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Well not so bad for a -70 then. Have you swept the coax to verify it hasn't developed any issues? -- Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless 1 (570) 723-7312 Scott Reedsr...@nwwnet.net wrote: Generally running 95 - 100. On 1/28/2012 5:14 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: What's your noise floor look like? -70 is pretty low. On Jan 28, 2012, at 17:05, Scott Reedsr...@nwwnet.net wrote: I have a link that went bonkers last Saturday or Sunday and it has me stumped. RB433AH with XR5 at each end. Signals running around -69/-71. CCQ is the goofy one. Most of the time one direction is in the 50% range, but varies quite a bit. The other direction ranges from 16% to 100%. Generally if I see it getting close to 100% I know the link is going to drop. It comes right back up, usually at about 50%. I have tried 20MHz channels, 10MHz channels, 5MHz channels with about the same results from all. I have tried 5.2-5.3 frequencies and 5.7-5.8 frequencies. The higher frequencies work better, but still not well. All of the hardware except one 60' piece of LMR as been replaced. Ask me some questions and offer some suggestions as this one has me totally stumped. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4772 - Release Date: 01/28/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4772 - Release Date: 01/28/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers
This link is over 5 years old. XR5 cards will connect and pass a significant amount of data at -80 if the CCQ stays up. I am trying to figure out why a 5 year old link suddenly quits and new hardware doesn't fix it. On 1/29/2012 3:04 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: On 1/28/2012 17:05, Scott Reed wrote: RB433AH with XR5 at each end. Signals running around -69/-71. CCQ is the goofy one. Most of the time one direction is in the 50% range, but varies quite a bit. The other direction ranges from 16% to 100%. Generally if I see it getting close to 100% I know the link is going to drop. It comes right back up, usually at about 50%. I have tried 20MHz channels, 10MHz channels, 5MHz channels with about the same results from all. I have tried 5.2-5.3 frequencies and 5.7-5.8 frequencies. The higher frequencies work better, but still not well. I'm not that familiar with the ubiquiti products, but from the data sheet the radio will put out 23 dBm and requires a -74dBm signal to work (the data sheet does not say what channel size this measurement is from, I'll assume a 20 MHz channel). What strikes me is your normal RSL is is only 3dB more than the min RSL needed to link at 54 mbit/s. This is well within the normal variance of a radio path (+-3dB), and could be causing the radios to switch back and forth between data rates (only after taking some errors). It could be interference, but even 3dB of on channel interference is enough to raise the noise floor and lower your S/N radio (keep in mind in a ofdm radio the RSL numbers given assume a perfect noise free system, for ever dB of noise you have add a dB to your RSL). If you want a 54mbit OTA rate you need a much better signal for it to be reliable. If you need no less than a -74dBm signal, ensure you have a -60dBm or better signal (rule of thumb) during steady state operation. This will give you some head room for changes in the atmosphere (K value) and other issues that pop up from time to time. If you suspect interference, try to figure out if it's local or remote and where it's at. If you can use a HP dish to knock down off path noise, do it. When I was deploying backhaul radios in unlicensed space, I made HP dish's standard on all my links. Unfortunately this is not cheap to do things properly, but it will let you sleep easy at night. -- *Bryan Fields* *APAC Imports LLC* Phone: 800-721-6502 Fax: 727-493-1511 http://apacimports.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4774 - Release Date: 01/29/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers
On 1/28/2012 8:31 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: If you replaced all gear and even tried a different coax in place of the 60' of LMR then it would have to be some kind of noise, coming in via the power lines or radiated. Who else is on the tower? Did you only replace/try different gear on one tower or did you try both ends? Have you done any spectral analysis? Greg On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Scott Reed wrote: I have a link that went bonkers last Saturday or Sunday and it has me stumped. RB433AH with XR5 at each end. Signals running around -69/-71. CCQ is the goofy one. Most of the time one direction is in the 50% range, but varies quite a bit. The other direction ranges from 16% to 100%. Generally if I see it getting close to 100% I know the link is going to drop. It comes right back up, usually at about 50%. I have tried 20MHz channels, 10MHz channels, 5MHz channels with about the same results from all. I have tried 5.2-5.3 frequencies and 5.7-5.8 frequencies. The higher frequencies work better, but still not well. All of the hardware except one 60' piece of LMR as been replaced. Ask me some questions and offer some suggestions as this one has me totally stumped. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4772 - Release Date: 01/28/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers
One end is just us and the 4 other links there are fine. The other is is us and at least 2 other WISPS, an FM repeater station, some public service repeaters, some commercial 2-way repeaters and ... Just looking at the tower, I don't think there is anything new, but I will ask the tower owner tomorrow. We changed everything at one end and all but the cable at the other. Other 5GHz links we have for either tower do not show symptoms of interference, but that does not mean that isn't our problem. On 1/28/2012 8:31 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: If you replaced all gear and even tried a different coax in place of the 60' of LMR then it would have to be some kind of noise, coming in via the power lines or radiated. Who else is on the tower? Did you only replace/try different gear on one tower or did you try both ends? Have you done any spectral analysis? Greg On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Scott Reed wrote: I have a link that went bonkers last Saturday or Sunday and it has me stumped. RB433AH with XR5 at each end. Signals running around -69/-71. CCQ is the goofy one. Most of the time one direction is in the 50% range, but varies quite a bit. The other direction ranges from 16% to 100%. Generally if I see it getting close to 100% I know the link is going to drop. It comes right back up, usually at about 50%. I have tried 20MHz channels, 10MHz channels, 5MHz channels with about the same results from all. I have tried 5.2-5.3 frequencies and 5.7-5.8 frequencies. The higher frequencies work better, but still not well. All of the hardware except one 60' piece of LMR as been replaced. Ask me some questions and offer some suggestions as this one has me totally stumped. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4772 - Release Date: 01/28/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers
Auto On 1/29/2012 9:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Did you force modulations at all or are you letting it auto negotiate? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Scott Reedsr...@nwwnet.net wrote: This link is over 5 years old. XR5 cards will connect and pass a significant amount of data at -80 if the CCQ stays up. I am trying to figure out why a 5 year old link suddenly quits and new hardware doesn't fix it. On 1/29/2012 3:04 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: On 1/28/2012 17:05, Scott Reed wrote: RB433AH with XR5 at each end. Signals running around -69/-71. CCQ is the goofy one. Most of the time one direction is in the 50% range, but varies quite a bit. The other direction ranges from 16% to 100%. Generally if I see it getting close to 100% I know the link is going to drop. It comes right back up, usually at about 50%. I have tried 20MHz channels, 10MHz channels, 5MHz channels with about the same results from all. I have tried 5.2-5.3 frequencies and 5.7-5.8 frequencies. The higher frequencies work better, but still not well. I'm not that familiar with the ubiquiti products, but from the data sheet the radio will put out 23 dBm and requires a -74dBm signal to work (the data sheet does not say what channel size this measurement is from, I'll assume a 20 MHz channel). What strikes me is your normal RSL is is only 3dB more than the min RSL needed to link at 54 mbit/s. This is well within the normal variance of a radio path (+-3dB), and could be causing the radios to switch back and forth between data rates (only after taking some errors). It could be interference, but even 3dB of on channel interference is enough to raise the noise floor and lower your S/N radio (keep in mind in a ofdm radio the RSL numbers given assume a perfect noise free system, for ever dB of noise you have add a dB to your RSL). If you want a 54mbit OTA rate you need a much better signal for it to be reliable. If you need no less than a -74dBm signal, ensure you have a -60dBm or better signal (rule of thumb) during steady state operation. This will give you some head room for changes in the atmosphere (K value) and other issues that pop up from time to time. If you suspect interference, try to figure out if it's local or remote and where it's at. If you can use a HP dish to knock down off path noise, do it. When I was deploying backhaul radios in unlicensed space, I made HP dish's standard on all my links. Unfortunately this is not cheap to do things properly, but it will let you sleep easy at night. -- Bryan Fields APAC Imports LLC Phone: 800-721-6502 Fax: 727-493-1511 http://apacimports.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4774 - Release Date: 01/29/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4774 - Release Date: 01/29/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers
Planned for tomorrow. On 1/29/2012 10:04 PM, Daniel White wrote: Maybe your replacement hardware is bad too. Have you tried another set? Daniel White (303) 746-3590 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers One end is just us and the 4 other links there are fine. The other is is us and at least 2 other WISPS, an FM repeater station, some public service repeaters, some commercial 2-way repeaters and ... Just looking at the tower, I don't think there is anything new, but I will ask the tower owner tomorrow. We changed everything at one end and all but the cable at the other. Other 5GHz links we have for either tower do not show symptoms of interference, but that does not mean that isn't our problem. On 1/28/2012 8:31 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: If you replaced all gear and even tried a different coax in place of the 60' of LMR then it would have to be some kind of noise, coming in via the power lines or radiated. Who else is on the tower? Did you only replace/try different gear on one tower or did you try both ends? Have you done any spectral analysis? Greg On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Scott Reed wrote: I have a link that went bonkers last Saturday or Sunday and it has me stumped. RB433AH with XR5 at each end. Signals running around -69/-71. CCQ is the goofy one. Most of the time one direction is in the 50% range, but varies quite a bit. The other direction ranges from 16% to 100%. Generally if I see it getting close to 100% I know the link is going to drop. It comes right back up, usually at about 50%. I have tried 20MHz channels, 10MHz channels, 5MHz channels with about the same results from all. I have tried 5.2-5.3 frequencies and 5.7-5.8 frequencies. The higher frequencies work better, but still not well. All of the hardware except one 60' piece of LMR as been replaced. Ask me some questions and offer some suggestions as this one has me totally stumped. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4772 - Release Date: 01/28/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4774 - Release Date: 01/29/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers
Update after more work today. Replaced all the electronics at one end early this morning. No real change. Replace the cable and antenna at that end this afternoon. When we got there the link was running with RSSI of around 67/70 and CCQ in the 50's both ways. Aligned the antenna and I watch the stats for a while while the climber we getting the old antenna off of the tower. Signal strength went to around 57/65 and quality was running in the high 80s to mid 90s. Thought it was fixed. Climber finished attaching new cable to tower as he came down. When He got to the bottom I checked things again. Signals are 67/70 and CCQ is all over the place. I have seen the CCQ jump from 90 to 14 at least once this evening. It didn't drop the link at 14, rather it climbed back up to nearly 80 and then dropped. I am at a complete loss as to what is going on. Oh, the last time I looked, noise floor was around -100 so SNR is running 30 to 40. On 1/29/2012 10:16 PM, Scott Reed wrote: Planned for tomorrow. On 1/29/2012 10:04 PM, Daniel White wrote: Maybe your replacement hardware is bad too. Have you tried another set? Daniel White (303) 746-3590 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers One end is just us and the 4 other links there are fine. The other is is us and at least 2 other WISPS, an FM repeater station, some public service repeaters, some commercial 2-way repeaters and ... Just looking at the tower, I don't think there is anything new, but I will ask the tower owner tomorrow. We changed everything at one end and all but the cable at the other. Other 5GHz links we have for either tower do not show symptoms of interference, but that does not mean that isn't our problem. On 1/28/2012 8:31 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: If you replaced all gear and even tried a different coax in place of the 60' of LMR then it would have to be some kind of noise, coming in via the power lines or radiated. Who else is on the tower? Did you only replace/try different gear on one tower or did you try both ends? Have you done any spectral analysis? Greg On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Scott Reed wrote: I have a link that went bonkers last Saturday or Sunday and it has me stumped. RB433AH with XR5 at each end. Signals running around -69/-71. CCQ is the goofy one. Most of the time one direction is in the 50% range, but varies quite a bit. The other direction ranges from 16% to 100%. Generally if I see it getting close to 100% I know the link is going to drop. It comes right back up, usually at about 50%. I have tried 20MHz channels, 10MHz channels, 5MHz channels with about the same results from all. I have tried 5.2-5.3 frequencies and 5.7-5.8 frequencies. The higher frequencies work better, but still not well. All of the hardware except one 60' piece of LMR as been replaced. Ask me some questions and offer some suggestions as this one has me totally stumped. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4772 - Release Date: 01/28/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers
I will certainly be getting a UBNT something on at least one tower to see what is going on. I did e-mail the big tower owner about changes on it. I know we are the only operation on the smaller tower. On 1/30/2012 8:32 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: +1 on getting something that does spectral analysis. Any new neighbors on the tower you're sharing? Any new gear they might have turned up? Greg On Jan 30, 2012, at 8:08 PM, Eric Rogers wrote: To me, that really sounds like interference. Don't look at the noise floor. Get a UBNT in spectrum analyzer mode, and let it run for a little bit. I bet you find something bleeding over the frequency. Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 7:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers Update after more work today. Replaced all the electronics at one end early this morning. No real change. Replace the cable and antenna at that end this afternoon. When we got there the link was running with RSSI of around 67/70 and CCQ in the 50's both ways. Aligned the antenna and I watch the stats for a while while the climber we getting the old antenna off of the tower. Signal strength went to around 57/65 and quality was running in the high 80s to mid 90s. Thought it was fixed. Climber finished attaching new cable to tower as he came down. When He got to the bottom I checked things again. Signals are 67/70 and CCQ is all over the place. I have seen the CCQ jump from 90 to 14 at least once this evening. It didn't drop the link at 14, rather it climbed back up to nearly 80 and then dropped. I am at a complete loss as to what is going on. Oh, the last time I looked, noise floor was around -100 so SNR is running 30 to 40. On 1/29/2012 10:16 PM, Scott Reed wrote: Planned for tomorrow. On 1/29/2012 10:04 PM, Daniel White wrote: Maybe your replacement hardware is bad too. Have you tried another set? Daniel White (303) 746-3590 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers One end is just us and the 4 other links there are fine. The other is is us and at least 2 other WISPS, an FM repeater station, some public service repeaters, some commercial 2-way repeaters and ... Just looking at the tower, I don't think there is anything new, but I will ask the tower owner tomorrow. We changed everything at one end and all but the cable at the other. Other 5GHz links we have for either tower do not show symptoms of interference, but that does not mean that isn't our problem. On 1/28/2012 8:31 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: If you replaced all gear and even tried a different coax in place of the 60' of LMR then it would have to be some kind of noise, coming in via the power lines or radiated. Who else is on the tower? Did you only replace/try different gear on one tower or did you try both ends? Have you done any spectral analysis? Greg On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Scott Reed wrote: I have a link that went bonkers last Saturday or Sunday and it has me stumped. RB433AH with XR5 at each end. Signals running around -69/-71. CCQ is the goofy one. Most of the time one direction is in the 50% range, but varies quite a bit. The other direction ranges from 16% to 100%. Generally if I see it getting close to 100% I know the link is going to drop. It comes right back up, usually at about 50%. I have tried 20MHz channels, 10MHz channels, 5MHz channels with about the same results from all. I have tried 5.2-5.3 frequencies and 5.7-5.8 frequencies. The higher frequencies work better, but still not well. All of the hardware except one 60' piece of LMR as been replaced. Ask me some questions and offer some suggestions as this one has me totally stumped. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers
I do want to look at it, but I have tried these links in the 5.3 range just to see what happened. No real difference, so I am not yet convinced that interference is it, but I can not come up with anything else. On 1/30/2012 9:41 PM, gregosb...@onlyinternet.net wrote: Scott, I've seen this with 2.4 ubnt and the airview results were misleading Trial and error was the only thing that helped me find the best channel... Spent the better part of two days fighting it. I put too must faith on the spectrum analysis and it sent me chasing my tail. Sent from my android device. -Original Message- From: Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers I will certainly be getting a UBNT something on at least one tower to see what is going on. I did e-mail the big tower owner about changes on it. I know we are the only operation on the smaller tower. On 1/30/2012 8:32 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: +1 on getting something that does spectral analysis. Any new neighbors on the tower you're sharing? Any new gear they might have turned up? Greg On Jan 30, 2012, at 8:08 PM, Eric Rogers wrote: To me, that really sounds like interference. Don't look at the noise floor. Get a UBNT in spectrum analyzer mode, and let it run for a little bit. I bet you find something bleeding over the frequency. Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 7:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers Update after more work today. Replaced all the electronics at one end early this morning. No real change. Replace the cable and antenna at that end this afternoon. When we got there the link was running with RSSI of around 67/70 and CCQ in the 50's both ways. Aligned the antenna and I watch the stats for a while while the climber we getting the old antenna off of the tower. Signal strength went to around 57/65 and quality was running in the high 80s to mid 90s. Thought it was fixed. Climber finished attaching new cable to tower as he came down. When He got to the bottom I checked things again. Signals are 67/70 and CCQ is all over the place. I have seen the CCQ jump from 90 to 14 at least once this evening. It didn't drop the link at 14, rather it climbed back up to nearly 80 and then dropped. I am at a complete loss as to what is going on. Oh, the last time I looked, noise floor was around -100 so SNR is running 30 to 40. On 1/29/2012 10:16 PM, Scott Reed wrote: Planned for tomorrow. On 1/29/2012 10:04 PM, Daniel White wrote: Maybe your replacement hardware is bad too. Have you tried another set? Daniel White (303) 746-3590 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Link gone bonkers One end is just us and the 4 other links there are fine. The other is is us and at least 2 other WISPS, an FM repeater station, some public service repeaters, some commercial 2-way repeaters and ... Just looking at the tower, I don't think there is anything new, but I will ask the tower owner tomorrow. We changed everything at one end and all but the cable at the other. Other 5GHz links we have for either tower do not show symptoms of interference, but that does not mean that isn't our problem. On 1/28/2012 8:31 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: If you replaced all gear and even tried a different coax in place of the 60' of LMR then it would have to be some kind of noise, coming in via the power lines or radiated. Who else is on the tower? Did you only replace/try different gear on one tower or did you try both ends? Have you done any spectral analysis? Greg On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Scott Reed wrote: I have a link that went bonkers last Saturday or Sunday and it has me stumped. RB433AH with XR5 at each end. Signals running around -69/-71. CCQ is the goofy one. Most of the time one direction is in the 50% range, but varies quite a bit. The other direction ranges from 16% to 100%. Generally if I see it getting close to 100% I know the link is going to drop. It comes right back up, usually at about 50%. I have tried 20MHz channels, 10MHz channels, 5MHz channels with about the same results from all. I have tried 5.2-5.3 frequencies and 5.7-5.8 frequencies. The higher frequencies work better, but still not well. All of the hardware except one 60' piece of LMR as been replaced. Ask me some questions and offer some suggestions as this one has me totally stumped. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765
Re: [WISPA] LMR Cables
May depend on where you think the moisture is getting in. I had one installer that was wrapping from the connector down the wire instead of up to the connector. Wrapping up makes it like shingles, even if some gets in it should run down the outside of the next layer. I have also seen gaps at the top where the installer could not see all the way around. I like two layers of Super 33 tape on the sealant, whichever it is. One wrapped clockwise, one counter clockwise. On 2/8/2012 3:39 PM, Carl Shivers wrote: We are having periodic trouble with our LMR connections. We're using 3M 2228 Rubber Mastic tape. Pulled one and it had moisture in it even with a solid wrap. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4795 - Release Date: 02/07/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Customer Payment Drop-off
We are outfitting a new office location. We have customer that, for whatever reason, like to drop-off their payments which are sometimes cash. So, I am looking for suggestions on what to use for a secure payment drop-box. If you accept after hours drop-off payments, what do you use to collect them? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower height near airport
I can not remember if it is on the FCC or FAA website, but there is a tool that will get you started. It will tell you whether you can put a tower there an dhow high. On 2/28/2012 9:37 AM, Jay DeBoer wrote: I've got a buisness that wants me to setup a ptp link for them I did the path study and need to be about 50' in the air to get line of site clearance. The problem is the road right next to them (road is about 200 yards east and the runway starts about 400 yards north.) dead-ends into a grass run-way for the airport (small town). and its also prettly close to perpendicular from the main run-way thats probably around 1000 yards away. I'm assuming it would have to be permitted through FAA and all the wonderful paperwork that way. I don't think zoning will be an issue but I'm more concerned about the tower height in relation to the airport. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] TrangoLink45 issue
I have a pair of TL45 that do a 2 mile link. At peak times we are moving 35Mbps across the link. Randomly the MU and or RU will have issues. First indication is high latency across the link. Logging into the units and doing a sysinfo will generally show the first two lines or so and then after a pause display failed. Any idea what we need to do to stabilize this link? Hardware Version 5055 Firmware Version 2p0r2D08072301 System Up Time 01:51:08 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 issue
Planning to order something in the morning. This is our primary link. I have to keep it going. On 3/4/2012 7:10 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: That was the symptom right before the master died. Put in a rocket5 and was done with it. Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Mar 4, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Scott Reedsr...@nwwnet.net wrote: I have a pair of TL45 that do a2 mile link. At peak times we are moving 35Mbps across the link. Randomly the MU and or RU will have issues. First indication is high latency across the link. Logging into the units and doing a sysinfo will generally show the first two lines or so and then after a pause display failed. Any idea what we need to do to stabilize this link? Hardware Version 5055 Firmware Version 2p0r2D08072301 System Up Time 01:51:08 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4850 - Release Date: 03/04/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 issue
Since we are consistently pushing over 35M through the link and all the comments have pointed to bad equipment, this link will be replaced with different radios later this week. Thanks too all who responded. On 3/7/2012 9:58 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Ive found the problem usually to be a failing TLink, and the necessary solution to usually be replace the TLink with a new Tlink I'm never quick to replace a Tlink with another brand, if the Tlink has enough capacity for the purpose of the link. With TLinks, I have solid indicators when a radio is operating properly or not. Thats important. With other brands, (like UBNT), its sometimes harder to know for sure whether a link is working optimally, from the perspective of the end user's throughput. Not to mention, TLinks great for legal 5.4 and 5.3. A couple things to check I've seen two other things cause the same symptom... 1) The power supply going bad. Fixed by replacing power supply. 2) Out of alignment antenna. If the antenna gets severally out of alignment, for example if the radio is dangling towards the roof because the mast got knocked over or pulled out of the wall brick in high winds, and the link needs to struggle to stay associated, there can be a huge amount of ARQ retransmissions, and it can over tax the software, and evenually the software crashes. I dont know why, I'm not their programmer. Maybe its some sort of exceed buffer type of thing. In some cases it will get bad enough where the RF communicates, but one side of the link will not pass traffic through it, meanting between the wired Ethernet and RF. The quick fix is to reboot either side. Because the RF is up, its also possible to remotely reboot the CPE or AP side. And even oif the CPE is the failed unit, rebooting the AP will fix the CPE. I dont know why it occurs, but it does. When these symptoms exist, often when I do Sysinfo, it only shows a small bit of info, and then hangs. So in summary, before calling a equipment bad, visually verify the equipment is still properly mounted. Please note these symptoms are rare to occur, and do not occur on non-defective Tlinks that are properly mounted, with proper link budgets. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Scott Reedsr...@nwwnet.net To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 issue Planning to order something in the morning. This is our primary link. I have to keep it going. On 3/4/2012 7:10 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: That was the symptom right before the master died. Put in a rocket5 and was done with it. Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Mar 4, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Scott Reedsr...@nwwnet.net wrote: I have a pair of TL45 that do a2 mile link. At peak times we are moving 35Mbps across the link. Randomly the MU and or RU will have issues. First indication is high latency across the link. Logging into the units and doing a sysinfo will generally show the first two lines or so and then after a pause display failed. Any idea what we need to do to stabilize this link? Hardware Version 5055 Firmware Version 2p0r2D08072301 System Up Time 01:51:08 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4850 - Release Date: 03/04/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4856 - Release Date: 03/07/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit??
Hosted RADIUS with connections to Authorize.net and Paypal payment portals. Might make getting payments a little easier than roll-your-own. On 3/26/2012 2:12 PM, Justin Wilson wrote: They are still around. Basically they are hosted radius. There is not much to their service so they have never maintained their site very well. But it does work. Justin -Original Message- From: Rick Kunzerku...@colusanet.com Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:52:05 -0700 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit?? I ran across a link to a company called Wireless Orbit. www.wirelessorbit.com I like the service features and all, but the site looks like it's been rather idle for a few years. No action on the discussion groups, last posts a few years ago, very few posts, stuff like that. Not to mention the site itself seems only partially complete. Is anyone familiar with these guys? Thanks. Rk ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4895 - Release Date: 03/26/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Inexpensive alarm monitor
PacketFlux Sitemonitor will accept switch input and is SNMP management. On 3/27/2012 8:45 AM, Troy Settle wrote: We've recently installed generators at several sites, but have not yet found an affordable solution for monitoring them. Does anyone know of a simple product that will enable me to monitor these things? Everything I've found is super expensive. All I really need, is a simple device that can be wired into the alarm contacts on the transfer switch. I'm not (yet) concerned about monitoring other metrics. Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4896 - Release Date: 03/26/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] UNBT PowerBridge 10
Sounds like what we do. Is this something the FCC committee should look into? On 3/29/2012 9:26 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: No Such Agency? Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Mar 29, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net mailto:jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Right. What is the 'Fixed' ? I asked the FCC and they said PtP microwave. I was unable to get anymore information about what that means. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Lucky Europeans All kinds of FCC stuff in the 10GHz. image.png On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Actually, its for Europe market where 10 ghz us unlicensed Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 tel:787.273.4143 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson *Sent:* Thursday, March 29, 2012 12:52 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UNBT PowerBridge 10 Pretty sure it's the sole use of some nameless Guvm't agency On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net mailto:jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Has anyone figured out why its not available in fcc land? The 10ghz bands have some ptp microwave designation but I am not familiar with what modulation/antenna/etc are required in the bands On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: It is available where you can legally operate it. 10Ghz can't be used with the FCC. Looks like you're in Michigan so...no soup for you =( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Jay DeBoer jdeboer-li...@summitdigital.us mailto:jdeboer-li...@summitdigital.us wrote: A) is the PowerBridge M10 actually out on the street or is this an available soon product. B) if it is out is anyone using it? I'm looking at some new ptp links and am leaning heavily toward licensed thanks for the input -- Jay DeBoer Chief Engineer Summit Digital Holdings, Inc. 100 N Roland St, Suite B McBain, MI 49657 Office: 231-825-2500 tel:231-825-2500 Direct: 231-908-0033 tel:231-908-0033 Fax: 231-908-0039 tel:231-908-0039 jdeb...@summitdigital.us mailto:jdeb...@summitdigital.us ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4902 - Release Date: 03/29/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] UC Berkeley study on WISPs
, Brough Brough Turner netBlazr Inc. – Free your Broadband! Website | Google+ | Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook | Blog | netBlazr Inc. On 5/30/12 12:15 PM, Shaddi Hasan wrote: tl;dr: Please take my survey about WISPs! It's quick and anonymous; you'll help science, and you might win a $100 Amazon gift card! SURVEY LINK --- http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu/drupal/wisp-study Hello! My name is Shaddi, and I'm a graduate student at UC Berkeley in the TIER research group (http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu). We're conducting a research study on the network management practices and challenges faced by WISPs. Our study's goal is to develop an understanding of the network management practices and challenges of WISPs in order to guide research towards making WISPs simpler to manage. Our study has two parts. The first is a survey (which should take about 5-10 minutes). Every question in our survey is optional, and best estimates are fine. After completing the survey, you may volunteer to participate in a completely optional follow-up phone interview, which should take 30-45 minutes. After completing the survey, you may provide your email address to be entered into a drawing for one of three $100 Amazon.com gift cards. Those who complete a follow-up interview will be entered into a separate drawing for one of two additional $100 Amazon.com gift cards. Here's what I promise: 1) This survey is completely anonymous, though if you choose to provide your name and/or your organization's name, I won't share it with anyone. 2) If I publish data from this study, I will only report aggregate statistics. 3) I will only share the raw data from the study with my research advisor, Prof. Eric Brewer. Here's the link to the survey: http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu/drupal/wisp-study If you have any questions, feel free to contact me either directly or on-list. Thanks! Shaddi ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Thanks, Brough Brough Turner netBlazr Inc. – Free your Broadband! Mobile: 617-285-0433 tel:617-285-0433 Skype: brough netBlazr Inc. | Google+ | Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook | Blog | Personal website ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2425/5038 - Release Date: 06/01/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] List Traffic
3 yesterday a bunch the day before. On 6/29/2012 10:45 AM, Eric Rogers wrote: Is this list dead? I haven't received an email since 6/18. Eric ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5100 - Release Date: 06/29/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] List Traffic
Oops, wrong list in my folder. I haven't seen anything either. On 6/29/2012 11:06 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: Then there is an issue These are the first emails I got on this list in 2 weeks as well. What was the subjects of yesterday. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Reed *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2012 10:54 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] List Traffic 3 yesterday a bunch the day before. On 6/29/2012 10:45 AM, Eric Rogers wrote: Is this list dead? I haven't received an email since 6/18. Eric ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5100 - Release Date: 06/29/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net http://www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5100 - Release Date: 06/29/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Tracking Mac
Look in the ARP table of a connected device. On 7/5/2012 12:41 PM, Robert Canary wrote: How does one do a trace route on MAC. Apparently I have used an IP address somewhere and didn't log it. Now when I assign IP I get multiple messages from my arpwatch of a IP Flip Flop happening. These coming from AirSpan because I found the MAC listed on the AP but it only shows ETH as the source. Robert Canary OCDirect Electrical-Datacomm (866) 594-0786 Fax (270) 955-0362 Voice ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5112 - Release Date: 07/05/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Internet Speed test..are they inaccurate with wireless?
For us this is the biggest one. I will have customer call, speedtest says 384K. Look at the radio and we are pushing 2.04M in on a 2M connection. Ask your kids to turn off all their devices and try again. Oh, wow, I am getting the full 2M now. What did you change? Then the long explanation about shared bandwidth on their connection. Has to be the same for businesses, though it is kind of hard to have all the other kids turn off their computers. On 8/21/2012 3:33 PM, Larry Weidig wrote: Bret: We have found that the tests are fairly accurate (well speedtest.net anyhow), *_BUT_* only in controlled environments. Your end user is probably running these tests when their Internet is slow. Viola look I am right it is slow, xyz speed test says so! What he does not realize is that Johnny intern in the warehouse has set his computer up to grab torrents for him while he picks stock and then just dumps the off to flash before heading out. Ok, that is just one example, but all sorts of other traffic can come into play. We tell our customers that we are not at all interested in speed tests unless we have a support person on the line watching their link for other types of traffic as well during the test. We also host their speedtest.net mini (free) on own of our own servers so that we can eliminate any Internet oddness causing problems with the results. The mini however only seems accurate up to about 25-30 Mbps in our experience at which point the results are only ballpark at best. Ookla claims mini is good until about 50 Mbps, but that has not been our experience. Just what we have experienced with speedtest results. Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net mailto:lwei...@excel.net) Excel.Net, Inc. -- http://www.excel.net/ (920) 452-0455 -- Sheboygan/Plymouth area (888) 489-9995 -- Other areas, toll-free *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Bret Clark *Sent:* Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:22 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Internet Speed test..are they inaccurate with wireless? We mostly deal with business customer and guarantee bandwidth to customers. We validate the bandwidth using IPERF from a Linux server off of our BGP edge routers down to the customer and IPERF always shows the customer getting the bandwidth they signed up for. We use QoS to control bandwidth and make sure to not oversubscribe any one linksmall ratios of 3:1. Of course eventually at some point the customer runs one of those stupid bandwidth test on the Internet and the results are woefully inaccurate (not in our favor)...but of course customers take the results as gospel. AAA! It's not our internet connections, we have three 100Mbps BGP links and none of them run at more then 50% during peak loads. Has anyone else found those Internet speed test to be woefully inaccurate? Or is something else going on that I'm missing? Thanks, Bret ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5212 - Release Date: 08/20/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!
Technologies, Inc. 314-735-0270 x102 http://wlan1.com http://towercoverage.com http://www.linktechs.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author (2003) - "Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks" Serving the WISP Community since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 760-678-5033 jun...@ask-wi.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5231 - Release Date: 08/28/12 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author (2003) - "Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks" Serving the WISP Community since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 760-678-5033 jun...@ask-wi.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author (2003) - "Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks" Serving the WISP Community since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 760-678-5033 jun...@ask-wi.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5232 - Release Date: 08/29/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Pac Wireless DA58-29 polarity
I was hoping the notches on the back were an indicator. Thanks to all for the responses. On 8/30/2012 10:42 AM, Sam Tetherow wrote: Patrick is correct, I was remembering wrong, the notches are on the inside of the dish at the base of the LNB. On 08/30/2012 09:35 AM, Patrick Wheeland wrote: Unfortunately, it's on the other side of the dish. You'll have to take the radome cover off to see which polarity it's set for. -Patrick *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Reed *Sent:* Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:11 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Pac Wireless DA58-29 polarity Which side of the dish is that on? This one is over 100' up and has a radome on it. We are redeploying it, but just a new direction on ht same tower so we don't want to take it apart. We just can't find the records of which way it was installed. On 8/29/2012 6:36 PM, Sam Tetherow wrote: There should be a screw under the attachment nut that fits into a groove on the dish. If the screw is up or down it is vertical, if it is left or right it is horizontal. On 08/29/2012 05:25 PM, Scott Reed wrote: Is this setup as vertical or horizontal polarity. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net http://www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5232 - Release Date: 08/29/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net http://www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5235 - Release Date: 08/30/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Upload and download Shaping in MikroTik radios
If you are using MT as the CPE, you can just do simple queue on the CPE, both up and down get set on the wire interface. On 9/5/2012 9:13 AM, Paul Hendry wrote: Depends on your topology. If you are planning to use username/passwords with PPP then bandwidth limits can be done on the PPP concentrator. If they are just going to be routed then you will need to mark all traffic then use queue trees to limit the traffic. Trees are applied to outgoing traffic on an interface so customer download queue would be on the ethernet port of the CPE and upload would be on the wlan. P. Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ UK Tel: 0845 004 0404 Web:http://www.skyline-networks.com On 05/09/2012 14:06, Eduardo wrote: Hi, Does someone know how to control the upload and download traffic in the MT? I need to shape the traffic to our customers accordingly to the kind of account they are paying for. Thanks, Eduardo Webjogger Internet Services www.webjogger.net http://www.webjogger.net -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by *MailScanner* http://www.mailscanner.info/, and is believed to be clean. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email:paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web:http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5249 - Release Date: 09/04/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Recommended MT product for effective bandwidth shaping on 100Mbit/s + link
Depending on required ports, the 4xxAH boards have a lot more memory and CPU. 1xxx series is bigger. Then there are the Intel based units from a variety of vendors. We use Baltic Networks RouterMaxx at the border. Very satisfied. Butch Evans, Steve Discher, LincTech and others have similar units. On 9/5/2012 10:44 AM, Ben West wrote: Hi All Could someone recommend a Mikrotik product, ideally one of Router Boards w/ enclosure, that would be effective for performing bandwidth shaping of ~3 dozen clients sharing a single uplink with 100Mbit/s download speed? I.e., what product are you using for this purpose now? Ideally, the bandwidth shaping could enforce multiple profiles, e.g. some clients get 10Mbit/s down, some get 3Mbit/s down. There would be comparable shaping applied on clients' upload speeds, but the correctly shaped download speeds are a higher priority. Also, it is possible this uplink may be upgraded 200 or even 300Mbit/s, so it would be cool if the MT product (which I presume would have 1Gbit/s integrated LAN) could also handle an uplink of that speed too. A friend of mine is presently trying to use an RB750GS for this purpose, but he is finding that the bandwidth shaping becomes ineffective for trying to ensure consistently shaped download speeds above ~5Mbit/s (i.e all clients only seem to see single-digit Mbit/s, regardless of which shaping profile is applied). My guess is that the RB750 is simply exhausting its available RAM trying to maintain queues for for the faster shaping profiles, causing them to effectively saturate at a fixed upper limit, and that my friend could use one of the beefier Router Boards with more RAM. But I'm unsure which product would have adequate capacity and not be $$$ overkill. (Also, I'm trying to discourage him from dropping lots of $$$ on a Cisco product, when a cheaper Mikrotik product could presumably still meet his needs.) Thanks. -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net mailto:b...@gowasabi.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5250 - Release Date: 09/05/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
We run MT, not UBNT, CPE, but it doesn't matter what brand it is. We run them in as routers, but do not NAT. Same benefits others mentioned for routing, just one fewer NAT. Never have a problem with it this way and can't see any good reason to NAT there. On 10/11/2012 3:46 PM, Arthur Stephens wrote: We currently use Ubiquiti radios in bridge mode and assign a ip address to the customers router. He have heard other wisp are using the Ubiquiti radio as a router. Would like feed back why one would do this when it appears customers would be double natted when they hook up their routers? Or does it not matter from the customer experience? Thanks -- Arthur Stephens Senior Sales Technician Ptera Wireless Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 For technical support visit http://www.ptera.net/support - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2677 / Virus Database: 2591/5802 - Release Date: 10/01/12 Internal Virus Database is out of date. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
NAT at the at a couple of towers, but not at the CPE. On 10/11/2012 6:52 PM, Sam Tetherow wrote: Not sure I under stand the no-NAT, so every device on the other side of the CPE has it's own public IP? On 10/11/2012 4:53 PM, Scott Reed wrote: We run MT, not UBNT, CPE, but it doesn't matter what brand it is. We run them in as routers, but do not NAT. Same benefits others mentioned for routing, just one fewer NAT. Never have a problem with it this way and can't see any good reason to NAT there. On 10/11/2012 3:46 PM, Arthur Stephens wrote: We currently use Ubiquiti radios in bridge mode and assign a ip address to the customers router. He have heard other wisp are using the Ubiquiti radio as a router. Would like feed back why one would do this when it appears customers would be double natted when they hook up their routers? Or does it not matter from the customer experience? Thanks -- Arthur Stephens Senior Sales Technician Ptera Wireless Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 For technical support visit http://www.ptera.net/support - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2677 / Virus Database: 2591/5802 - Release Date: 10/01/12 Internal Virus Database is out of date. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2677 / Virus Database: 2591/5802 - Release Date: 10/01/12 Internal Virus Database is out of date. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
MT has several devices with hardware switches on board and fully accessible through the GUI. They also have a switch sort of based on ROS. On 10/11/2012 8:35 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: At 10/11/2012 06:52 PM, SamT wrote: Not sure I under stand the no-NAT, so every device on the other side of the CPE has it's own public IP? There could be one NAT, at the access point. My taste, which to be sure I haven't tested at scale in a wireless network (but plan to), is to follow what is becoming standard wireline practice and do switching, not bridging, at layer 2. Routing would then be lumped into one place, making it easier to manage. The problem with small Linux-based systems (this includes both UBNT and MT) is that they don't tend to have switching documented or set up in the UI, even if it's possible. Bridging is bad -- it was designed for orange hose Ethernet, and it passes broadcast traffic to everyone. We invented this at DEC in the 1980s and discovered how it doesn't scale too well -- we had a couple of thousand DECnet and IP nodes on a bridged LAN, and the background broadcast traffic level was 400 kbps. This was a lot for systems to handle in 1991. I was testing ISDN bridges and discovered how you can't just bridge that type of network across a 56k connection. (I discovered the traffic when I first turned up the bridge. I ended up isolating it behind a router, built from an old VAX. At DEC, we built everything ouf of VAXen.) Switching, though, is what Frame Relay and ATM do, and now Carrier Ethernet is the big thing for fiber. It uses the VLAN tag to identify the virtual circuit; the MAC addresses are just passed along. Since it's connection-oriented (via the tag), it can have QoS assigned. I think it's theoretically possible to tag user ports, route on tags and set QoS on RouterOS, but it's not obvious how to do it all. Switching doesn't pass broadcast traffic; it provides more isolation and privacy than plain routing. Mesh routing then works at that layer, transparent to IP. It'll be interesting to set up. On 10/11/2012 4:53 PM, Scott Reed wrote: We run MT, not UBNT, CPE, but it doesn't matter what brand it is. We run them in as routers, but do not NAT. Same benefits others mentioned for routing, just one fewer NAT. Never have a problem with it this way and can't see any good reason to NAT there. On 10/11/2012 3:46 PM, Arthur Stephens wrote: We currently use Ubiquiti radios in bridge mode and assign a ip address to the customers router. He have heard other wisp are using the Ubiquiti radio as a router. Would like feed back why one would do this when it appears customers would be double natted when they hook up their routers? Or does it not matter from the customer experience? Thanks -- Arthur Stephens Senior Sales Technician Ptera Wireless Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 For technical support visit http://www.ptera.net/support - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2677 / Virus Database: 2591/5802 - Release Date: 10/01/12 Internal Virus Database is out of date. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net http://www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2677 / Virus Database: 2591/5802 - Release Date: 10/01/12 Internal Virus Database is out of date. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
) to the new plan. There is no human intervention required beyond the effort that made it possible. FWIW, this system uses all 3 of the manufacturers I mentioned above and the portal works (automatically) with all 3. That portal was written in PHP by a programmer that I hired and he and I spent a total of about 400 hours getting it together. You want one? Just find a programmer and tell him what you want and how you accomplish it manually and let him do the rest, OR start programming it yourself. It isn't that hard, as Simon said. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2741 / Virus Database: 2614/5839 - Release Date: 10/18/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Is IPv6 ready?
You and I can. John Doe, the average user, doesn't know it is on, doesn't care that it is, and is clueless how to turn it off. When we give him native v6, he will think we did something great to improve his performance. On 10/27/2012 12:18 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: I'm fairly sure you can change the binding order to adjust this operation to suite your preference. (which one the computer tried first) I don't see IPv6 utilized in my real world until 5-10 years from now. We do provide some customers v6 routed address space and our entire network is routed and supports it, but thats because people like to play with it because its something new in the networking world they want to understand, not because anyone actually requires it. It does provide a small marketing bonus, for those that don't understand it - sounds good any way lol I see it as somewhat as a liability to my network, since there are sure to be bugs in its implementation and dual stack functionality. Just a fear I have, been there done that with different routing protocols in the past and the programmers have not yet achieved perfection yet :) But, I flex, have to let people have their v6 fun (employees and customers alike...) Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2742 / Virus Database: 2617/5857 - Release Date: 10/27/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Monopole mount
I don't know pricing, but try Nello. www.nelloinc.com On 11/9/2012 4:52 PM, Kevin Sullivan wrote: Hello, I've got a customer who's apparently installed a 120' monopole so they'll be able to get service from us. Anyone have a bead on a monopole mount? I looked it up on Tessco, and they seemed to be $500ish. I'd like to find something more like $150. Thanks, Kevin ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2793 / Virus Database: 2624/5883 - Release Date: 11/08/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik
I depends on what fiber they hand you. If it is Multi-Mode, you can get sub $75.00 media converters and leave the 450 in place. If it is Single Mode, you may as well get a router with SFP ports as to get a media converter. On 11/13/2012 1:00 PM, Dave Barker wrote: I'm upgrading my data from the provider. It's fiber right now but hands off from the provider as Ethernet. The new circuit is going to handoff as fiber. Currently I'm using a RB493G router at my DEMARC, what Mikrotik router do you all recommend to take a fiber handoff? Thanks Dave Broadlinc Wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2793 / Virus Database: 2624/5883 - Release Date: 11/08/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik
Yes, when I priced them last year I didn't find any SM for $350. Got a brand you like? I am going to need another soon. On 11/13/2012 4:06 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: ... Scott, are you under the impression that the Single Mode Fiber Converters are More Expensive ? Today that is not the case... One can get good quality SM or Multi-Mode Fiber Media converters (Gigabit) for $100 to $150. BTW.. if you are going to be needing multiple connections, one might consider putting in a Gigabit Switch with SFP ports on them... Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 11/13/2012 1:21 PM, Scott Reed wrote: I depends on what fiber they hand you. If it is Multi-Mode, you can get sub $75.00 media converters and leave the 450 in place. If it is Single Mode, you may as well get a router with SFP ports as to get a media converter. On 11/13/2012 1:00 PM, Dave Barker wrote: I'm upgrading my data from the provider. It's fiber right now but hands off from the provider as Ethernet. The new circuit is going to handoff as fiber. Currently I'm using a RB493G router at my DEMARC, what Mikrotik router do you all recommend to take a fiber handoff? Thanks Dave Broadlinc Wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2793 / Virus Database: 2624/5883 - Release Date: 11/08/12 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2793 / Virus Database: 2624/5883 - Release Date: 11/08/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik the dude
notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- *_Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer_**Author of Learn RouterOS- Second Edition http://www.wlan1.com/product_p/mikrotik%20book-2.htm” Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ – *Skype*: linktechs *//**/-- Create Wireless Coverage’s with /*www.towercoverage.com http://www.towercoverage.com/*//*/–*900Mhz – LTE – 3G – 3.65 – TV Whitespace */* * ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2793 / Virus Database: 2624/5883 - Release Date: 11/08/12 Internal Virus Database is out of date. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] *On Behalf Of *~NGL~ *Sent:* Tuesday, January 08, 2013 1:43 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router ** ** Anyone have any experience with this router? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ** ** ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/6014 - Release Date: 01/06/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
So anyone can copy it and those that paid for it provide the funding for those that don't. Not saying that MTs licensing it perfect, but requiring a license is a very common thing. Think Microsoft, Cisco, etc. On 1/9/2013 6:30 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Oh. It's that license thing again. Another reason I don't like MikroTik. With Uniquiti there are no license levels. You get what you purchased. On Jan 9, 2013, at 18:11, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Because a bunch of people run cracked copies... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 9, 2013 6:03 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: supp...@mikrotik.com mailto:supp...@mikrotik.com? Yes. You usually get a reply there. Asking you to supply your serial number. As if I'd ask for support for a product I don't own. On Jan 9, 2013, at 17:15, Scott Lambert lamb...@lambertfam.org mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 08:04:18PM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote: I've been using both MT and UBNT for many many years and I plan to use them both for many years. MT support has been almost completely absent, while UBNT typically answers fairly quickly. That said, usually when I notice a problem with my MT product, it's already been fixed in a newer release. MT support in their forum is hit and miss. I get timely responses from supp...@mikrotik.com mailto:supp...@mikrotik.com. I don't understand the people who complain on the forums that MT support is horrible and refuse to e-mail supp...@mikrotik.com mailto:supp...@mikrotik.com. I am not saying that Mike is one of those guys. I don't know if his statement is based on experience with supp...@mikrotik.com mailto:supp...@mikrotik.com or not. The east europe/western asia folks just seem to have a bit of a different take on things than we in North America do. I think that's just due to the culture and language differences. They tend to come off as being a bit brusk to us. I don't trust any newly shipping product in a production environment. They go into designated test environments. The Edge Router may be the best thing since sliced bread. However, the devices I've used the Quagga stack on have let me down more than the MikroTik routing stack. Of course, most of those Quagga devices were StarOS which had its own problems. Thankfully, we have completed our 100% StarOS to 100% UBNT AP/backhaul radios with MikroTik routers transition. When I get an Edge Router, I will play with it on the desk. Then it will be put a nearby but small tower site. If it behaves, I'll put one on a non-leaf node tower. I'm not in a hurry to get my first EdgeRouter. Until then, I really like my 493Gs running 5.21. We have not run any production MikroTik wireless gear. We just haven't. We picked up some Ubiquiti gear first. No other reason. I have 6.0rc6 on the MikroTik in the house. It has wireless. It works for my personal devices. I wouldn't consider using RouterOS 6 on customer use gear, yet. Not even when they are calling it the 6th release candidate. It's not a release candidate if you are still adding new features. If you are still adding new features, it is an alpha release... I have a couple of RB2011UAS units on the bench. They aren't in the field for the same reason I would not rush to put the EdgeRouter in the field. UBNT and MikroTik both have software QA issues. At this price point, we get to be the alpha/beta testers. C'est la vie. -- Scott LambertKC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lamb...@lambertfam.org mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/6014 - Release Date: 01/06/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
Yeah, their automated response that says someone will look at your problem suggests you send a .sup file. However, when I have put a very detailed explanation of what I need help with, I have not had any problem getting an immediate, correct response from them. On 1/9/2013 7:45 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I've contacted MT support once. It was a week ago. I had an old 532 running 3.x and it wouldn't upgrade. I went to the website, filled out the form, attached the sup file and sent it. I got a reply five minutes later with a new key. I upgraded. Life is good. :) Brian On 1/9/2013 5:15 PM, Scott Lambert wrote: On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 08:04:18PM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote: I've been using both MT and UBNT for many many years and I plan to use them both for many years. MT support has been almost completely absent, while UBNT typically answers fairly quickly. That said, usually when I notice a problem with my MT product, it's already been fixed in a newer release. MT support in their forum is hit and miss. I get timely responses from supp...@mikrotik.com. I don't understand the people who complain on the forums that MT support is horrible and refuse to e-mail supp...@mikrotik.com. I am not saying that Mike is one of those guys. I don't know if his statement is based on experience with supp...@mikrotik.com or not. The east europe/western asia folks just seem to have a bit of a different take on things than we in North America do. I think that's just due to the culture and language differences. They tend to come off as being a bit brusk to us. I don't trust any newly shipping product in a production environment. They go into designated test environments. The Edge Router may be the best thing since sliced bread. However, the devices I've used the Quagga stack on have let me down more than the MikroTik routing stack. Of course, most of those Quagga devices were StarOS which had its own problems. Thankfully, we have completed our 100% StarOS to 100% UBNT AP/backhaul radios with MikroTik routers transition. When I get an Edge Router, I will play with it on the desk. Then it will be put a nearby but small tower site. If it behaves, I'll put one on a non-leaf node tower. I'm not in a hurry to get my first EdgeRouter. Until then, I really like my 493Gs running 5.21. We have not run any production MikroTik wireless gear. We just haven't. We picked up some Ubiquiti gear first. No other reason. I have 6.0rc6 on the MikroTik in the house. It has wireless. It works for my personal devices. I wouldn't consider using RouterOS 6 on customer use gear, yet. Not even when they are calling it the 6th release candidate. It's not a release candidate if you are still adding new features. If you are still adding new features, it is an alpha release... I have a couple of RB2011UAS units on the bench. They aren't in the field for the same reason I would not rush to put the EdgeRouter in the field. UBNT and MikroTik both have software QA issues. At this price point, we get to be the alpha/beta testers. C'est la vie. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/6014 - Release Date: 01/06/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Medical companies
We have a local hospital that won't allow using wireless because they had a bad experience with a different supplier. Since a lot of their people don't tell them who the provider is, we have several customers using our service. I agree with one of the other posts. Tell the customer to tell them they have an Ethernet connection. It is true and eliminates the issue of medium. If they require DSL, I guess it is a good thing you are not a fiber provider. That wouldn't be DSL either. On 1/10/2013 1:36 PM, Mike Asher wrote: Hello All, I have someone who wants to work from home, they work for a hospital and the hospital says they have to use dsl and wireless is not allowed. Is this a law, maybe hipaa? Thank you for any info. -- *Mike Asher* Atm-Internet 765-792-6165 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/6014 - Release Date: 01/06/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Google Earth Question
Anyone know how to get Google Earth to show the placemark icon without a label? I want to see our customer distribution, but the labels really clutter the map. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Google Earth Question
Working toward that now, but currently have hundreds that I would like to see with the label. On 1/23/2013 11:47 AM, Jon Turlington wrote: Scott, Well, if you are generating this via a custom written application you can use some KML similar to this: Placemark name/name visibility1/visibility description /description styleURL /styleURL Point coordinates--95.410800, 29.684726,0/coordinates /Point /Placemark Thank you, Jon Turlington ADS Manager Phone: 713-559-9651 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 8:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Google Earth Question Anyone know how to get Google Earth to show the placemark icon without a label? I want to see our customer distribution, but the labels really clutter the map. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/6025 - Release Date: 01/11/13 Internal Virus Database is out of date. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Google Earth Question
This is the one that works the best so far. Just wish I didn't have to touch every one. On 1/23/2013 9:38 AM, Ed Spoon - CSS, Inc. wrote: Try changing the label 'scale' to 0.0 Ed Spoon | Manager of Internet Services | triparish.net / cajun.net Computer Sales Services, Inc. | Ph: 985-879-3219 / Fax: 985-876-6789 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 8:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Google Earth Question Anyone know how to get Google Earth to show the placemark icon without a label? I want to see our customer distribution, but the labels really clutter the map. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/6025 - Release Date: 01/11/13 Internal Virus Database is out of date. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Google Earth Question
Thanks. That did it! On 1/23/2013 12:58 PM, Jon Turlington wrote: Put them all in a folder and on the properties you can share style and make the change globally. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 11:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google Earth Question This is the one that works the best so far. Just wish I didn't have to touch every one. On 1/23/2013 9:38 AM, Ed Spoon - CSS, Inc. wrote: Try changing the label 'scale' to 0.0 Ed Spoon | Manager of Internet Services | triparish.net / cajun.net Computer Sales Services, Inc. | Ph: 985-879-3219 / Fax: 985-876-6789 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 8:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Google Earth Question Anyone know how to get Google Earth to show the placemark icon without a label? I want to see our customer distribution, but the labels really clutter the map. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/6025 - Release Date: 01/11/13 Internal Virus Database is out of date. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/6025 - Release Date: 01/11/13 Internal Virus Database is out of date. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Customer having trouble with Facebook
I have a customer that when he tries to go to most any facebook page gets a certificate expired page. Any idea what he needs to do? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] free public wifi
Trade for tower space.
On 4/11/2013 1:04 PM, Terry White
wrote:
I have been asked by our city to provide
free public wifi in a lake/ park area. has anybody ever done
this and charged the city or county to provide the service. If
so how much did you charge?
Terry White
United Services
(800) 585 - 6454
twh...@ueci.coop
"Your
Local Satellite Professionals"
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[WISPA] Climb Safety vendor
Who is a good source for Elk River harnesses, etc.? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Metal building parapet wall mount for 3ft dish question
Nello has mounts specifically for this, too. On 5/26/2013 11:38 AM, lakeland wrote: Scott, Its either brick with metal covering it or it hollow with light steel H beam construction. If its block underneath or if its steel I would drill all the way through and sandwich the wall on each side. We would use a Site Pro 1 WM1665 or SP250-6 with 2 pieces of 3 x 3 angle on the back side. If the wall is hollow just dandwich both sides of a vertical beam. You may need to notch out the metal for the mount to sit flush against the beam. If its block you just need to shim up the mount to accomodate the corrugated surface. Site Pro sells square backer washers that can be used for this. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com Date: 05/26/2013 10:09 AM (GMT-05:00) To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Metal building parapet wall mount for 3ft dish question I've never disassembled a parapet wall on a metal building to see whats back behind the sheet metal that runs vertical on the roof side of the parapet wall, but I need to know whats back there and the best way to attach a 3ft licensed radio and dish and the mount needs to be beefy - as in welded galvanized mount that probably weighs 50 pounds itself. I'm going to need to tie into something substantial behind the flimsy wall sheet metal. I've mounted lighter loads to these walls but I just need this to stay put - it can't flex or move at all I have 3deg to work with on 11ghz and its out of town. Anyone know of a mount that works good for this or can tell me whats back in there? They must all be made similarly as every metal building I've seen is built the same. I have included a link to a photo showing exactly what it looks like. Dish needs to go next to the other jpole there - I have no idea what that is and I didn't put it there fyi :) Thanks, appreciate it. Link - http://flhsi.com/files/parapet.jpg Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3343 / Virus Database: 3184/6359 - Release Date: 05/26/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] DIN rail mount front facing POE injector
Works great!! On 7/17/2013 9:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: PacketFlux. 4 or 8 ports. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 17, 2013 8:59 AM, heith petersen wi...@mncomm.com mailto:wi...@mncomm.com wrote: Is anyone using a compact but high capacity POE injector that DIN rails mounts? We have used a lot of the devices that we have pictured but they are a pain to install in small cabinets, plus their only cable plug is from the side. I have seen a lot on the net, but mostly 1 or 2 port models. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus Database: 3204/6497 - Release Date: 07/16/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Anybody using this PoE switch?
I suggested similar idea plus current sense per port to Forrest for the next revision of the PacketFlux POE Injectors. On 7/18/2013 10:54 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: Can you have different voltage on different ports or is it just one voltage on all ports? It would be cool if someone could build one that took 48v in and allowed 12/24/48 out selectively. Add in surge protection and that would be a neat device. I'm sure it would cost a little bit, but it sure would make things tidy. Although with a small unit like this, you could have two or three running different voltages and probably have some ports to spare. Not that I need such a device anymore, but it could be cool. Cameron On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Price? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 tel:787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 8:27 AM To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody using this PoE switch? Looks nice for small pops, Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 tel:787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 5:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Anybody using this PoE switch? Hi all anybody using this switch? http://tinycontrol.eu/en/kontroler,poe-switch,168,368 Do you like it? Any feedback is appreciated Thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 tel:%28%2B39%29%20091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus Database: 3204/6501 - Release Date: 07/18/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] OSPF Tutorial/Guide
Cost is what is used for determining routes. Priority is for who has the the more important information. Typically we leave the priority at default. Set the cost on the backup links higher than the cost on the primary links. On 7/20/2013 1:43 PM, Chris Fabien wrote: I need to get OSPF running on the network linking our 4 core towers - had a heat related failure on a mikrotik radio cause an outage this week. We have enough links that we could set this up for redundancy but only have static routing in place, so I had to manually route around the down link. I have a bench setup running based on the Mikrotik Wiki example, it's running and working, but I'm stuck on the part where I assign cost/distance/priority or whatever the term is to make it decide one link over another. I'm not really grasping how that works. Any suggestions for a tutorial or documentation which explains that, or if it's simple, maybe just tell me what I need to do? I want to be able to assign priority to the links so that it won't always take the least # of hops path, we have a redundant link between two main towers which is an old nanobridge link and want to reserve it as the backup link. Thanks for any advise! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus Database: 3204/6506 - Release Date: 07/20/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA - Offlist] OSPF Tutorial/Guide
I have a network with about 800 devices running OSPF. If you need more help, let me know. I do consulting for several WISPs helping get from bridged to routed, setting up routers correctly, etc. If is is easy, no charge. If is going to take some time/effort, I charge $65.00/hour for the actual time involved, no minimum. Let me know what I can do to help. On 7/20/2013 1:43 PM, Chris Fabien wrote: I need to get OSPF running on the network linking our 4 core towers - had a heat related failure on a mikrotik radio cause an outage this week. We have enough links that we could set this up for redundancy but only have static routing in place, so I had to manually route around the down link. I have a bench setup running based on the Mikrotik Wiki example, it's running and working, but I'm stuck on the part where I assign cost/distance/priority or whatever the term is to make it decide one link over another. I'm not really grasping how that works. Any suggestions for a tutorial or documentation which explains that, or if it's simple, maybe just tell me what I need to do? I want to be able to assign priority to the links so that it won't always take the least # of hops path, we have a redundant link between two main towers which is an old nanobridge link and want to reserve it as the backup link. Thanks for any advise! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus Database: 3204/6506 - Release Date: 07/20/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA - Offlist] OSPF Tutorial/Guide
Oops. that was supposed to go to Chris, not the list. On 7/20/2013 1:55 PM, Scott Reed wrote: I have a network with about 800 devices running OSPF. If you need more help, let me know. I do consulting for several WISPs helping get from bridged to routed, setting up routers correctly, etc. If is is easy, no charge. If is going to take some time/effort, I charge $65.00/hour for the actual time involved, no minimum. Let me know what I can do to help. On 7/20/2013 1:43 PM, Chris Fabien wrote: I need to get OSPF running on the network linking our 4 core towers - had a heat related failure on a mikrotik radio cause an outage this week. We have enough links that we could set this up for redundancy but only have static routing in place, so I had to manually route around the down link. I have a bench setup running based on the Mikrotik Wiki example, it's running and working, but I'm stuck on the part where I assign cost/distance/priority or whatever the term is to make it decide one link over another. I'm not really grasping how that works. Any suggestions for a tutorial or documentation which explains that, or if it's simple, maybe just tell me what I need to do? I want to be able to assign priority to the links so that it won't always take the least # of hops path, we have a redundant link between two main towers which is an old nanobridge link and want to reserve it as the backup link. Thanks for any advise! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus Database: 3204/6506 - Release Date: 07/20/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA - Offlist] OSPF Tutorial/Guide
I know that is how Cisco figures default values, but it is not always the best. I may have a 10M wire link and a 54M wireless link. The average data flow is 5M, so want the 10M wire to be the primary because it is more reliable. I would give it a lower cost than the faster wireless link. If you have a wireless link that you know suffers from temperature inversion problems every morning and one that doesn't, but is slower, you may want the slower, more reliable link to have the lower cost so that your reliability stays high, but if that link goes down, you still have a link to use. As with most things in this business, there are general guidelines, but you also have to know your network and make informed decisions, not just follow some rule of thumb. On 7/20/2013 8:06 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote: Cost should be set based on the speed of the link. So, if you have a 1 Gbps link in your network, set the cost of routers on either side to 1. If you have a 333 Mbps link, set the cost of the routers on either side to 3. 100 Mbps link? Cost = 10. So, your 1 Gbps link speed is really 1000 Mbps so cost = 1000 / Speed. On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Bob iPhone Kim evdo.hs...@gmail.com mailto:evdo.hs...@gmail.com wrote: Scott, Can you help remotely? ALL... do we have a services board anywhere... kinda like a craigslist for our group? On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net mailto:sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: I have a network with about 800 devices running OSPF. If you need more help, let me know. I do consulting for several WISPs helping get from bridged to routed, setting up routers correctly, etc. If is is easy, no charge. If is going to take some time/effort, I charge $65.00/hour for the actual time involved, no minimum. Let me know what I can do to help. -- Robert Q Kim iPhone Repair Connection San Diego http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiSr78Kk8ZU 2611 S Coast Highway San Diego, CA 92007 310 598 1606 tel:310%20598%201606 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus Database: 3204/6506 - Release Date: 07/20/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA - Offlist] OSPF Tutorial/Guide
No, it isn't. Mikrotik defaults everything to cost 10, no matter the medium or speed. I am pretty sure I have seen other vendors that set everything to a particular value. Cisco does default based on medium link speed. On 7/21/2013 11:35 AM, Christian Palecek wrote: That is how all ospf costs default based on ether link speed. In reality it is a giant math problem, you don't want to assign costs based on the defaults if you don't have a wired network. You should actually set costs higher and not use single digits so you have wiggle room. You also want to try and eliminate the static routes or atleast set their metric so high that they are last resort. Redistributed routes are important as well. It is a balancing act. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net Date: 07/20/2013 7:59 PM (GMT-07:00) To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA - Offlist] OSPF Tutorial/Guide I know that is how Cisco figures default values, but it is not always the best. I may have a 10M wire link and a 54M wireless link. The average data flow is 5M, so want the 10M wire to be the primary because it is more reliable. I would give it a lower cost than the faster wireless link. If you have a wireless link that you know suffers from temperature inversion problems every morning and one that doesn't, but is slower, you may want the slower, more reliable link to have the lower cost so that your reliability stays high, but if that link goes down, you still have a link to use. As with most things in this business, there are general guidelines, but you also have to know your network and make informed decisions, not just follow some rule of thumb. On 7/20/2013 8:06 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote: Cost should be set based on the speed of the link. So, if you have a 1 Gbps link in your network, set the cost of routers on either side to 1. If you have a 333 Mbps link, set the cost of the routers on either side to 3. 100 Mbps link? Cost = 10. So, your 1 Gbps link speed is really 1000 Mbps so cost = 1000 / Speed. On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Bob iPhone Kim evdo.hs...@gmail.com mailto:evdo.hs...@gmail.com wrote: Scott, Can you help remotely? ALL... do we have a services board anywhere... kinda like a craigslist for our group? On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net mailto:sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: I have a network with about 800 devices running OSPF. If you need more help, let me know. I do consulting for several WISPs helping get from bridged to routed, setting up routers correctly, etc. If is is easy, no charge. If is going to take some time/effort, I charge $65.00/hour for the actual time involved, no minimum. Let me know what I can do to help. -- Robert Q Kim iPhone Repair Connection San Diego http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiSr78Kk8ZU 2611 S Coast Highway San Diego, CA 92007 310 598 1606 tel:310%20598%201606 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus Database: 3204/6506 - Release Date: 07/20/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus Database: 3204/6508 - Release Date: 07/21/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA - Offlist] OSPF Tutorial/Guide
Not a vendor member. NewWays Networking, LLC is a WISP member. I just do some consulting because I don't have enough to do running a WISP. ;-) On 7/22/2013 2:54 PM, Jim Patient wrote: Scott, What is the name of your consulting company? I'm having a hard time finding you on the WISPA vendor member page. Perhaps they missed getting you listed when you paid you vendor membership dues? Jim *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Reed *Sent:* Saturday, July 20, 2013 12:55 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] [WISPA - Offlist] OSPF Tutorial/Guide I have a network with about 800 devices running OSPF. If you need more help, let me know. I do consulting for several WISPs helping get from bridged to routed, setting up routers correctly, etc. If is is easy, no charge. If is going to take some time/effort, I charge $65.00/hour for the actual time involved, no minimum. Let me know what I can do to help. On 7/20/2013 1:43 PM, Chris Fabien wrote: I need to get OSPF running on the network linking our 4 core towers - had a heat related failure on a mikrotik radio cause an outage this week. We have enough links that we could set this up for redundancy but only have static routing in place, so I had to manually route around the down link. I have a bench setup running based on the Mikrotik Wiki example, it's running and working, but I'm stuck on the part where I assign cost/distance/priority or whatever the term is to make it decide one link over another. I'm not really grasping how that works. Any suggestions for a tutorial or documentation which explains that, or if it's simple, maybe just tell me what I need to do? I want to be able to assign priority to the links so that it won't always take the least # of hops path, we have a redundant link between two main towers which is an old nanobridge link and want to reserve it as the backup link. Thanks for any advise! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus Database: 3204/6506 - Release Date: 07/20/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net http://www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus Database: 3204/6510 - Release Date: 07/22/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast
Check with Nello www.nelloinc.com On 7/30/2013 1:58 PM, Joshua Zukerman wrote: Hello list, I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each. Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast? Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is needed. Won't ever need to go higher. Or do you have another suggestion for mounting? Thanks in advance, Josh ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3209/6535 - Release Date: 07/30/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas
That's not the way I understand digital radio transmissions. They can all get the same number of bit transitions per cycle. That being the case, you will get 2.67x more maximum on a 2.4G link than a 900M link and about 6.4x more on a 5.8G than 900M. Try them in a clean environment, like your work area. What is the maximum throughput you can get on a 900MHz link when your SNR is 80 or 90. I don't think you will ever see it doing air rates of 100M. On 8/22/2013 3:28 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 900 will move the same amount as data as 2.4, 3.65 and 5 GHz with all else being the same. If your throughput is low, you have too little signal for the noise you're seeing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent: *Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:13:52 PM *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas I don't have anything to compare it to other than Tranzeo 900, but I have had decent results with it. It obviously won't push the throughput that 5G or even 2.4G will, even with the same channel sizes, but UBNT salvaged most of my 900 customers when the Tranzeo gear started running into problems. On 08/22/2013 09:03 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: How is it junk? IIRC, everyone I've asked that claimed a given 900 MHz system was junk had a poor RF environment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Erik Anderson erik.ander...@hocking.net *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent: *Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:49:55 AM *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas 98% of our terrain is heavily wooded. Ubiquiti 900 is junk (but their other products perform quite well when they can be used). Cambium 900 is better. Out limited experience with whitespace has been good. All of these technologies have very low bandwidth. On 8/22/2013 12:04 AM, Chris Fabien wrote: What are you guys deploying lately in heavily wooded areas? We've used both Cambium pmp320 Wimax and UBNT M900, with mixed results on both. We just put up a 130ft tower in a heavily wooded river valley area, leaning towards the UBNT solution but hate putting money into something I'm not really satisfied with. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6598 - Release Date: 08/22/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas
Well, guess that negates my most recent post. On 8/22/2013 4:27 PM, Dan Petermann wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon–Hartley_theorem Its all in the math. On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: But Mike that is the Rub. All things are never the same. 900 is dirty and Susceptible to so much noise and reflection because the signal does not die as quick. I understand the “Theory” but still have a hard time understanding how a slower carrier wave (900MHz) can carry the same Data as 5800MHz carrier wave but I know that it could in a vacuum. The issue is we don’t live in a vacuum. *Steve Barnes* General Manager PCSWIN.com http://PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]*On Behalf Of*Mike Hammett *Sent:*Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:28 PM *To:*WISPA General List *Subject:*Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas 900 will move the same amount as data as 2.4, 3.65 and 5 GHz with all else being the same. If your throughput is low, you have too little signal for the noise you're seeing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From:*Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net mailto:tethe...@shwisp.net *To:*WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:*Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:13:52 PM *Subject:*Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas I don't have anything to compare it to other than Tranzeo 900, but I have had decent results with it. It obviously won't push the throughput that 5G or even 2.4G will, even with the same channel sizes, but UBNT salvaged most of my 900 customers when the Tranzeo gear started running into problems. On 08/22/2013 09:03 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: How is it junk? IIRC, everyone I've asked that claimed a given 900 MHz system was junk had a poor RF environment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From:*Erik Andersonerik.ander...@hocking.net mailto:erik.ander...@hocking.net *To:*WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:*Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:49:55 AM *Subject:*Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas 98% of our terrain is heavily wooded. Ubiquiti 900 is junk (but their other products perform quite well when they can be used). Cambium 900 is better. Out limited experience with whitespace has been good. All of these technologies have very low bandwidth. On 8/22/2013 12:04 AM, Chris Fabien wrote: What are you guys deploying lately in heavily wooded areas? We've used both Cambium pmp320 Wimax and UBNT M900, with mixed results on both. We just put up a 130ft tower in a heavily wooded river valley area, leaning towards the UBNT solution but hate putting money into something I'm not really satisfied with. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6598 - Release Date: 08/22/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 802.11 and roaming
This is the key you were looking for, but there is more. If you are using MT clients, you can use areas and then you do not have to have the same SSID. On 9/7/2013 11:32 PM, Amin Dashti wrote: Have you checked Mikrotik's wireless access list? Configure Signal Strength Range option to disconnect sticky wireless clients (who have low signal) Best, Amin Amin Dashti Mikrotik Info (949)385-2171 dash...@mikrotikinfo.com mailto:dash...@mikrotikinfo.com *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Blair Davis *Sent:* Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:20 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] 802.11 and roaming I've tried MikroTik. I've tried Cisco. I've tried UniFi. I pretty much don't think there is a working way to roam from AP to AP with 802.11 in an open system. The client holds on to the weak AP long after there are stronger AP's to talk to. I think this is just the way it works. Now, we are giving each AP a unique ESSID but keeping them bridged on the wired side and requiring the user to change the connection when out of range... Not the best answer, but it works much better for the clients who don't move much... I'd love a better answer... -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6645 - Release Date: 09/07/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Help identifying this shackle
From the bend in the bolt, that is the right answer, I think. On 9/16/2013 2:36 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: Why not use a load spreader instead? On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 1:32 PM, LaRoy McCann w...@dtisp.com mailto:w...@dtisp.com wrote: Can anyone identify this shackle? I think I have seen it before on the internet but can't find it now. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3408 / Virus Database: 3222/6670 - Release Date: 09/16/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation
Shireen On 9/17/2013 11:40 AM, Heith Petersen wrote: Probably beating a dead horse here. We are definitely looking at using more or all shielded cable at residential installs. Currently we are hooked on the tower cable that we use, but was curious as to what others were using for something easier to work with thanks heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3408 / Virus Database: 3222/6673 - Release Date: 09/17/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Need mast mounting bracket for I-Beam
I get beam clamps and other required hardware from a local electrical supplier. I would put a beam clamp on the bottom of one of the beams going left to right. Bolted to that would be a Minerallac clamp for the size pipe you are using. We would use 1-1/2 EMT. Another beam clamp and pipe clamp at the top of the beam that runs up and down in the picture. We do 10' pipe as long as we can get more than 2' separation of the clamps. Shorter pipe if clamps closer together. Also depends on what is going on it, but that is a general rule. On 9/25/2013 7:40 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Do a google search for Beam Clamps. You can get creative with them along with Struts. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - From: Joshua Zukerman li...@snowpondtech.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:12:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need mast mounting bracket for I-Beam Forgot to include a photo (120KB attached). On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Joshua Zukerman li...@snowpondtech.comwrote: Hello list, I have a client that I am setting up a PtP wireless link between two buildings. The antenna will be going on the roof of a service station, that has steel I-beams going across it. I want to mount a 5' mast (RadioShack mast) to the I-Beam if possible. What brackets are made for this application? Thanks, -- Joshua Zukerman President Snow Pond Technology Group Inc. www.snowpondtech.com -- Joshua Zukerman President Snow Pond Technology Group Inc. www.snowpondtech.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3408 / Virus Database: 3222/6697 - Release Date: 09/25/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] ARIN numbers
Dealing with ARIN is fairly easy and they have some very helpful people. You have to follow the rules and meet all the criteria, but they will help you with that. On 10/3/2013 12:37 PM, heith petersen wrote: Kind of late in the game for this question, but has anyone been able to successfully acquire IP space from ARIN? I have read that they have 1 full/8 3/4 of another /8. We have always received our IPs from our upstream provider, and where I live there are not a lot of other choices for providers. Honestly, we may have been lulled into thinking that we were to small to get our own space, or we needed to be multi-homed. I have read on the website that we could fairly easily qualify, as far as what is currently percentage wise utilized. I need to start shifting all our networks to be fully routed and would be nice to have our own space. Our provider is fairly big in the upper plains, however things may change were we need to shift, or maybe get a second provider. I assume that since ARIN is a non-profit organization that they would not be affected by the current government shut down. I could be wrong. I see they will be represented at WISPALooza this year. I was hoping to get a little input on current success from others before I put in a lot more research thanks in advance heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3408 / Virus Database: 3222/6719 - Release Date: 10/03/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?
Grounding or water ingress. We have 100s of XR cards, both 900Mhxz, 2ghz and 5ghz in the air. I can't remember the last time we replaced a failed XR card that was actually bad that was not for water in the cable. On 10/17/2013 11:48 AM, Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) wrote: I see that a lot on the XR cards after storms in my area. Might be bad TX output or bad RX input numbers. I've changed a lot of cards this year because of a similar issue to yours. marlon -Original Message- From: Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:54 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing? dear all lately we are having some strange issues with some airgrids. We see that: 1) the signal on some radios is droppiing around 10dbi 2) it works in one direction but not the other (eg. tx=ok but rx not working) Is that happening to you too? Regards -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] WISPALOOZA Slides
Nathan did tell us the Fiber Weekend slides are up, but I can not find that I noted where they are. On 10/21/2013 11:55 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: It'll be a short while for everyone to recover, get back to work, and get that massive amount of information together. It will come, just be patient =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: I was told Wispa members would be able to download the slides from the show and they were uploaded already for fiber weekend. I cannot seem to find them anywhere on Wispa.org even when logged in. Where are they? Also, when and where will the videos of the show be uploaded? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3408 / Virus Database: 3222/6767 - Release Date: 10/20/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] WISPALOOZA Slides
No presentation will mean just that after Nathan gets the ones that he has up. On 10/21/2013 12:17 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: I just looked - apparently they are not all up yet. For example, looking at the wispapalooza page, then agenda, then each event - there is a hyperlink as part of the description that says presentation a few of them say no presentation - Original Message - *From:* Matt mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Monday, October 21, 2013 10:51 AM *Subject:* [WISPA] WISPALOOZA Slides I was told Wispa members would be able to download the slides from the show and they were uploaded already for fiber weekend. I cannot seem to find them anywhere on Wispa.org even when logged in. Where are they? Also, when and where will the videos of the show be uploaded? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3408 / Virus Database: 3222/6767 - Release Date: 10/20/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Marketing idea
Be sure to check your state's lattery/raffle laws. They vary a lot, but many have restrictions about how players can get tickets, etc. On 12/1/2013 12:03 PM, Joe Miller wrote: Thinking about how to get my company name out there more in our area... A thought that I came up with was a raffle... Raffle off a 2002 KZ C800, (see attached) at $5.00 a ticket. Someone will own this for $5.00. but instead of the conventional way of the actual paper ticket, come up with something that is web based where they can buy tickets through a web page. I haven't got the details on how to do this yet, but looking for ideas. Say start on 1/1/14 and have the drawing on the 4^th of July or something like that. Someone owed me money for a job, and this is how I got paid. the motorcycle is company owned, and it runs very well. Joe Miller www.dslbyair.com 228-831-8881 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3629/6882 - Release Date: 12/01/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Best way to attach to a steel, pre-fab, building?
Lag bolts do not work on steel. I would clamp around a truss with long through bolts with a plate on the inside. On 12/1/2013 4:49 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: What is the bast way to attach a mount for a rocket dish to a steel, pre-fab, building? Simple mount and just lag bolts into the steel or is there another trick? Thanks, Mike -- Mike Lyon 408-621-4826 mike.l...@gmail.com mailto:mike.l...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3629/6882 - Release Date: 12/01/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Solution to Regulate Video Streaming?
Check out Butch Evans' QOS package for Mikrotik. On 12/31/2013 1:55 PM, Joey Craig wrote: My employer is looking for a solution to monitor, regulate and bill for video streaming to the customer if he/she goes over a predetermined amount per month. Whether this is done by an add-on appliance, software on a server or an added feature in a radius server, etc. Does anyone know of such a solution? Joey Craig Firenet1.Com Phone: (662) 510-0764 Mobile: (662) 404-1118 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6963 - Release Date: 12/31/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box
Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations. Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers. On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote: I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also heard of guys making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same cable for towers and installs so there is that option — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote: Just looking for what others are using for boxed cable shielded that simple or easy for customer installs. We use a certain cable now, buts on rolls, which is ideal for towers, but a pain in the ass for installs. I heard UBNT stuff is better, but the partners are upset from the BS from earlier go arounds thanks heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7024 - Release Date: 01/22/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box
We do not use UBNT, so I can not help you with that. On 1/23/2014 9:02 AM, heith petersen wrote: Are you using the unshielded for UBNT installs? I have started to to avoid radio defaulting due to crap cable install. Well, I havent seen the cables myself but they were unshielded and may have taken a surge of sorts. *From:* Scott Reed mailto:sr...@nwwnet.net *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:31 AM *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations. Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers. On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote: I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also heard of guys making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same cable for towers and installs so there is that option — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote: Just looking for what others are using for boxed cable shielded that simple or easy for customer installs. We use a certain cable now, buts on rolls, which is ideal for towers, but a pain in the ass for installs. I heard UBNT stuff is better, but the partners are upset from the BS from earlier go arounds thanks heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7024 - Release Date: 01/22/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7026 - Release Date: 01/22/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box
This stuff is spooled because it is too fat and stiff to stuff into the box and think it will come out nicely. I have fewer snags, etc., with the spooled wire than the other boxes we use. On 1/24/2014 7:41 AM, Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) wrote: Have you tried the Shireen dry gel? I’m addicted. Stays dry and easy to work with until it gets wet. IF there’s a problem that allows liquid into the cable it self seals the hole. Pretty cool stuff. I do wish they had a better packaging system. I really miss the “rabbit pull” mechanism that my indoor cable uses. marlon *From:* Scott Reed mailto:sr...@nwwnet.net *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:31 AM *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations. Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers. On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote: I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also heard of guys making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same cable for towers and installs so there is that option — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote: Just looking for what others are using for boxed cable shielded that simple or easy for customer installs. We use a certain cable now, buts on rolls, which is ideal for towers, but a pain in the ass for installs. I heard UBNT stuff is better, but the partners are upset from the BS from earlier go arounds thanks heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7024 - Release Date: 01/22/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7029 - Release Date: 01/23/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box
You can get it either way, shielded or not. Compare them here:https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/cables/cat5e.html https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/cables/cat5e.html On 1/24/2014 12:43 PM, Kevin Owen wrote: Marlon, Is the Shireen Dry Gel cable also shielded? Do you have a part/product # for it? Thanks, Kevin *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 4:42 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Have you tried the Shireen dry gel? I’m addicted. Stays dry and easy to work with until it gets wet. IF there’s a problem that allows liquid into the cable it self seals the hole. Pretty cool stuff. I do wish they had a better packaging system. I really miss the “rabbit pull” mechanism that my indoor cable uses. marlon *From:*Scott Reed mailto:sr...@nwwnet.net *Sent:*Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:31 AM *To:*WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:*Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations. Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers. On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote: I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also heard of guys making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same cable for towers and installs so there is that option — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote: Just looking for what others are using for boxed cable shielded that simple or easy for customer installs. We use a certain cable now, buts on rolls, which is ideal for towers, but a pain in the ass for installs. I heard UBNT stuff is better, but the partners are upset from the BS from earlier go arounds thanks heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7024 - Release Date: 01/22/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net http://www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7030 - Release Date: 01/24/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outlet toner for cat5/6 and/or Coax
JDSU makes or made several units. The one I have has 8 number blocks to search for. Does cable length, correct pair wiring, tones and some other stuff. It is in the truck which is a the repair shop so I can not give you the model number. Search Test-Um On 1/28/2014 3:35 PM, Mark Spring wrote: josh, the testum unit by jdsu had a model like this(TP600) but didn't do coax. I don't want to oversimplify this, but I can't imagine why there aren't more people making units like this...even the ones with more identifiers, I can't imagine that any of these components are that expensive especially when building them in bulk Mark Spring Systems Analyst New Knoxville Telephone Company 301 W. South St. New Knoxville, OH 45871 419.753.5000 This message and the file(s) attached are confidential and proprietary information of NKTelco for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any unauthorized review, distribution, disclosure, copying, use, or dissemination, either whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. Do not transmit these documents, in any form, to any third party without the expressed written permission of NKTelco. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: That's not at all what I'm talking about. That's just a tester, not a multi-room toner. Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/28/2014 11:31 AM, Ryan Spott wrote: Doesn't do rg6 but Ethernet cable with distance to break is a lifesaver: http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=105cp_id=10524cs_id=1052401p_id=8128seq=1format=2 ryan On Jan 28, 2014, at 12:24 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote: Are you just wanting a simple tester? http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E1687005 --- Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: I'm looking for something similar to this (just other options): http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-VDV-Scout-Pro-Tester-Kit-VDV501-809/202520422?quantity=1 If it works with coax (RG-6) too, that's fine but not required. I used to use something similar back in my satellite tv days, and thought it would be really nice to have for some of our indoor wiring jobs. Warning: If it says Fluke on it, I probably won't buy it. I respect their quality, but we don't want to spend 250+ per device for these. -- Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7039 - Release Date: 01/28/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] IP managment software
IPPlan will do reverse DNS creation for you as long as you have the domains correctly defined. The export and XML template make something that can be copied to your BIND data directory. Just have cron restart BIND every night or whatever and it will always be the same as IPPlan. I haven't used them, but IPPlan also has facilities to generate registrar related stuff. That may be what you are looking for. I am not an IPPlan expert, but if you need some offlist help, feel free to e-mail be directly. On 2/25/2014 12:30 PM, Roger Howard wrote: I'm looking for some recommendations for software to help manage our IP addresses. We're currently using BIND on linux, with webmin control panel, and we're using ipplan software to keep a record of what IPs are where. This way, it's a pain setting up all the reverse DNS manually, so we mostly just don't bother. We're close to needing to request more IPs from ARIN, which requires much better documentation than just that we have a /27 on this AP and a /28 on this ap. It also requires the utilization of each block. Is there anything out there better than IP Plan, preferably that can tie in with BIND to provide reverse DNS, and output in a manner that ARIN will like? Thanks, Roger ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7124 - Release Date: 02/25/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] IPPlan fix
If anyone is using the beta version of IPPlan that handles IPv6 addresses, I have a minor fix for it. The displaysubnet routine miscalculates the percent utilization of subnets and then e-mails the administrator that the subnet is low on space long before it should. If you would like the file as I have updated it, hit me offlist and I can send it to you. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Light Duty self-support
ANWireless. Great towers, great support. On 3/27/2014 10:32 AM, Chris Fabien wrote: Who is your first call for an economical self support tower for a customer to clear trees? We typically build guyed Rohn 25 towers but this customer doesn't want guy wires. Needs to be 100ft and enough wind load to hold a small repeater site, maybe 10 sqft. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4354 / Virus Database: 3722/7253 - Release Date: 03/26/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Odd Speed Results
I have a link using 2 PowerBridges that is about 2.4 miles. I can get 56M TCP across the link using the UBNT speed test. I have several MTs on one side of the link and a RouterMaxx running MT on the other side of the link. The best I can get between the MTs is 10M. The processors are at 30% on each side. I am at a total loss as to why I get the radically different speeds. I can not anything that looks odd. The link used to work really well. Not sure when this issue started, but I am thinking it may be getting progressively worse. Any idea what I should be looking for? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
