Re: [WISPA] Two days left! CBRS comments are due Thursday, December 28, 2017. GET THIS DONE TODAY (before drinking all the eggnog)!

[Chuck Hogg]

https://www.census.gov/geo/maps-data/data/tiger-kml.html

Alternatively, you can use the map linked in the instructions at the bottom
of the instructions.

Regards,
Chuck

On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 11:02 AM, William C Bardwell 
wrote:

> Is there somewhere to download a KMZ for census tracts?
>
> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
>
>> WISPA Members,
>>
>> We are in the middle of one of the most important fights in the history
>> of our industry.  *We need every member (operators, vendors, service
>> providers) to submit comments to the FCC*.  More background and an
>> outline to help you cover all the bases are in Steve Coran’s email below.
>>
>> Please take 30 minutes today and put together a letter to the FCC on
>> CBRS.  If you need assistance, or want help reviewing a draft, contact me,
>> Mark Radabaugh, or Steve Coran off list and we’ll help you.
>>
>> We have also developed a website that will enable you to see the
>> difference between census tracts (the current proposal for allocating PALs)
>> and PEAS.  Instructions for accessing that website are below.
>>
>> If you would prefer to have a KMZ file showing PEA's that you can use,
>> you can download it here:
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/y5b1zf1mtm5b0v2/FCC_PEAs_website.kmz?dl=0
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *THIS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT *
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Citizens Broadband Radio Service*
>>
>> *GN Docket No. 17-258*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Suggestions for Filing Comments regarding Notice of Proposed Rulemaking*
>>
>> *Deadline: Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 11:59 pm Eastern Time*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Background*
>>
>>
>>
>> On October 24, 2017, the FCC released a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking
>> (NPRM) that would fundamentally change the Citizens Broadband Radio Service
>> (CBRS), which includes the 3550-3650 MHz band and the existing 3650-3700
>> MHz band.  WISPA will be filing extensive Comments opposing many of the
>> proposed rule changes, and we believe it is very important for individual
>> members – WISPs, manufacturers, vendors, etc. – to also file Comments.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Summary of Current Rules That Will Be Changed If WISPs Do Not Comment*
>>
>>
>>
>> The FCC adopted rules in April 2015 to establish the CBRS band.  The band
>> employs a three-tier spectrum access model.  *Incumbent Access* (earth
>> stations and military) that must always be protected from interference; 
>> *Priority
>> Access*, which will be auctioned by the FCC according to census tracts
>> and must protect incumbents; and *General Authorized Access* (GAA), a
>> “license by rule” service that must protect Incumbent and Priority Access
>> use.  The FCC allocated up to 70 megahertz for Priority Access Licenses
>> (PALs) and the remaining 80 megahertz for GAA use.  The FCC also will allow
>> GAA use opportunistically when and where Priority Access Licenses (PALs)
>> are not in use.  The model will be governed by a Spectrum Access System
>> (SAS) that will enforce the three-tier approach.
>>
>>
>>
>> In addition to fixed wireless service, the CBRS band is viewed as an
>> “innovation band” to enable other business models such as Industrial
>> Internet of Things, private networks, venues (e.g., airports, arenas,
>> shopping malls), neutral host networks and others.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Summary of Proposed Changes to the Rules Sought by the Mobile Industry*
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is a link to the proposed regulatory action that the FCC is
>> considering:
>> *https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-17-134A1.pdf*
>> *)*
>>
>> *PLEASE BE SURE TO READ Paragraphs 9-27, which are relevant to the
>> proposals discussed below  *
>>
>>
>>
>> The FCC, at the request of the mobile industry, is proposing changes to
>> the PAL rules so they are friendlier to national mobile carriers.  If
>> adopted, the proposed rules would effectively foreclose small companies
>> that wish to acquire protected spectrum for small areas and create a
>> “5G-only” band available only to the large mobile wireless providers.  The
>> specific proposals are as follows:
>>
>> Ø  *Conduct PAL auctions based on Partial Economic Areas (PEAs) *or
>> other geographic areas that are larger than census tracts, such as
>> counties.  There are 416 PEAs and more than 74,000 census tracts.  Census
>> tracts are optimized at a population of ~4,000.
>>
>> Ø  *Extend Priority Access License (PAL) terms from 3 years to 10 years
>> and add a “renewal expectancy”* that could make PALs essentially
>> perpetual.
>>
>>
>>
>> *These proposed rule changes would make the cost of acquiring protected
>> PALs through auction significantly higher, pricing out many small would-be
>> bidders and essentially ensuring that the large mobile wireless carriers
>> have exclusive access to the spectrum for an indefinite period of time over
>> a large geographic area.  Smaller providers, even if they had the means to
>> outbid the large carriers, would be forced to acquire large-area licenses
>> th

Re: [WISPA] Looking for opinions on a proposal for PTMP in 6Ghz Part 101 spectrum

[Chuck Hogg]

Hi Mark:

I just wanted to give my input.  I think in general, access to more
spectrum is a good thing.  It's my understanding that the existing users of
6GHz would be unaffected and protected.

Given that, there are huge swaths of spectrum not in use in rural America.
Matt Larsen and I discussed at length over the years on ways to use
spectrum that isn't being used today because of the rules surrounding it or
exclusivity because of ownership...not because it's being used in given
areas.

I know that there is not that much use of 6GHz in my area.  There are
plenty of PtP links, but in general, there is nothing in PtMP and given
that in some areas you can barely get a cell signal, let alone a TV signal,
why can't we be able to use it.

I think so long as we protect existing uses of 6GHz, I'd be open to more
unlicensed spectrum.

Regards,
Chuck

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 5:12 PM, Mark Radabaugh  wrote:

> WISPA has been asked to participate in a wireless industry push to explore
> unlicensed use in the current Part 101 6Ghz spectrum.The idea is to
> increase the current Part 15 allowed power limits and to bring in UNII
> rules, along with additional mitigations currently under study (e.g.,
> sensing, database) to protect incumbents.  As there are no federal users
> (other than PTP) this would not require the ESC system of CBRS and is
> potentially considerably simpler to implement.
>
> The upside is significantly more spectrum availability in a high
> power/capacity/range band.   The downside is some potential loss of
> geographic exclusivity and availability of new 6GHz Part 101 PTP links in
> exchange for greater reliance on the use of spectrum sharing mechanisms
> over time.
>
> I’m interested in opinions on how important 6Ghz PTP links are to the
> membership and for those who use them if there would be significant
> opposition to using the spectrum for Point to Multipoint.
>
> Mark
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Re: [WISPA] Loss of David Kunat

[Chuck Hogg]

Oh Wow.  David will be missed.

Regards,
Chuck

On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Richard Bernhardt 
wrote:

> Very sincere condolences for the loss of David Kunat.   Prayers for his
> family and friends.  Very sad indeed.   - Richard Bernhardt
>
> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 11:33 PM, Jeremy Austin 
> wrote:
>
>> I am sorry to report the loss of young Alaskan pilot and WISP operator
>> David Kunat, also a frequent contributor to this list, in a crash today.
>>
>> https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/aviation/2017/05/27/two-dead
>> -in-southeast-alaska-plane-crash/
>>
>> He will be missed.
>>
>> Jeremy Austin
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Re: [WISPA] Bundle With Dish Network TV??

[Chuck Hogg]

They just can't stop marketing to your customers.  Once you give them Dish
Satellite, they will bundle in other services in the bills and continually
blast them with commercials on all the channels they serve, including gift
card offers, etc.

Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

> The price includes support with server plus...so them.
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:41 AM RickG  wrote:
>
>> Who supports it, you or them?
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>
>> Hi William,
>>
>> The HD stream on realchoicetv uses about 5-6mbps which is about the same
>> as Netflix and Hulu.  We really didn't need to "budget" any more bandwidth
>> capacity because our clients are already streaming video.
>>
>> As for costs contact CTI they are doing the sales for realchoice and they
>> can give you their pricing.
>>
>> We figure we'll be able to add at least $25 more/mo net revenue per sub
>> to our bottom line.
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 4:14 AM William C Bardwell 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sean,
>>
>> I have given this some thought for our network. What type of speeds and
>> network capacity have to penciled in for your network? What is the cost?
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>
>> Other operators have complained that the harvest your client list and
>> advertise heavily to get them to use DSL.  I've personally never sold
>> satellite tv so I can't say that is true myself.
>>
>> We are about to deploy RealchoiceTV which is Over the top (OTT) live
>> streaming TV with local channels.  They are a WISPA member.
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 3:34 PM Scott Pope 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> We have been contacted by Dish Network TV regarding the "Opportunity" to
>> bundle with them and their Satellite TV product.  The representative has
>> told me that they have partnered with many other WISP's in other areas of
>> the country.  I was wondering if any other Operators had any success or
>> failure stories to share?  I am cautiously optimistic of the idea.  I am
>> just looking for feedback.
>>
>> Thank You in Advance!
>>
>> Scott Pope
>> Network and Operations Officer
>> Arbuckle Communications, LLC
>> Office: 580-226-1234 <(580)%20226-1234>
>> Mobile: 580-277-1108 <(580)%20277-1108>
>> www.arbucklecomm.com
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Re: [WISPA] How long?

[Chuck Hogg]

Probably would have to request to pro-rate a portion of the membership.
Send an email to adm...@wispa.org and they might be able to help.

Regards,
Chuck

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Does one's WISPA membership need to be expired before the yearly cycle
> resets?
>
> Example:  Account expired on 09/2016.  WISP just renewed now.  It shows
> it expiring 09/2017 instead of 12/2017.
>
> How does one "roll the date" so to speak, like you can do with your
> inspection/etc to get it in sync with another date (e.g. license plate
> registration).
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Re: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced

[Chuck Hogg]

Impressive, almost a 10mi link in Denver, CO.

Regards,
Chuck

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Ben Moore  wrote:
>
> Here is one of the first units deployed:
>
> http://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber-Stories/AF24HD/cns-p/1131208
>
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>>
>> Working great at six miles here in Alaska.
>>
>> On December 17, 2014 9:58:58 AM AKST, Tim Reichhart <
>> timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here is my issue the af24 wouldnt work for me since I live in the
>>> Midwest and we get rain etc... it would only work about an mile or so not 8
>>> mile shots when can you guys get an working 24Ghz airfiber to work in these
>>> types of weather climates?
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> --
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: "Ben Moore" 
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Date: 12/17/14 01:56 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced
>>>
>>> and 50% more range...
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:

 500Mbps technically :)


 On December 17, 2014 9:52:55 AM AKST, Gino Villarini 
 wrote:
>
>  Dang! 2x price for 250 mbps more, ouch!
>
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> President
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>  www.aeronetpr.com
> @aeronetpr
>
>
>
>
>
> From: "ben.mo...@ubnt.com" 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 at 2:48 PM
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced
>
>
> Hi Gino -
>
> Initial shipments are in transit to distributors so units will be
> received in early to mid January.
>
> MSRP is $6k/link.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
>>
>>  Just got a email from UBNT
>>
>> AF24HD announced, similar to AF24, bigger Rx dish (40db) 256 qam 1
>> Gbps Fdx
>>
>> http://www.ubnt.com/airfiber/airfiber24/
>>
>> No pricing or availability info, Ben?
>>
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> President
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>>  www.aeronetpr.com
>> @aeronetpr
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Change of email address

[Chuck Hogg]

http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/options/wireless

If you don't have your password, then you can put in your email for the
forgot password to get it.  You should be able to change your email address
there.

Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Do you have access to the old one?  Just unsubscribe it.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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> On Oct 28, 2014 1:13 PM, "Jose Dorado"  wrote:
>
>> I work at GoZoe Wireless and we have been a member as long as I have been
>> here (4 years). What is the process to change the email address for the
>> WISPA emails?
>> My new address is: j...@izoom4u.com
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jose
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Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product

[Chuck Hogg]

+1

Regards,
Chuck

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Tom Fadgen  wrote:

>  Contact Powercode, they are the WISP distributor. That is where I bought
> mine.
>
> Tom Fadgen
> coastinet.com
>
>
> On 10/23/2014 5:36 PM, heith wrote:
>
>  So the last booth I visited at Wispa in Vegas was the Procera booth. I
> am hooked and want to learn more, but at $17k a pop it’s a little hard to
> swallow, as I would need to purchase 4 of them for my current locations
> that I serve. Are there any other solution I can look for to do similar
> functions that may be more cost effective?
>
>
>
> I am also a little leery at the fact that I have left them 2 voice mail
> messages as well as sent an email from earlier this week with no return
> call. So that’s a concern if it takes a while to get sales support if tech
> support would be any different. So I was wanting some feed back from some
> actual users of their product or other similar products.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Heith
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site

[Chuck Hogg]

Are you bringing our friend from Latvia?



Regards,
Chuck


On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Ben Moore  wrote:

> What question? ;-)
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
> On Jul 6, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
>
> I noticed that Ben Moore didn't respond to my question :(
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Daniel White  > wrote:
>
>>  Funny now all he does is dress like Matt :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Him and family are doing well FYI.  Just spent a few days with Kris about
>> 2 weeks ago.
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> *Daniel White* | Managing Director
>>
>> *SAF North America LLC*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Cell:*
>>
>>
>>
>> (303) 746-3590
>>
>> *Skype:*
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>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 3, 2014 9:29 AM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site
>>
>>
>>
>> Are you bringing our friend from Latvia?
>>
>>
>>  Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Ben Moore  wrote:
>>
>>  Or a ski trip in park city :-)
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>> On Jul 3, 2014, at 7:50 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
>>
>>   Between awnsering posts and working with the FCC I should get a check
>> from UBNT…
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> President
>>
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>
>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *"ben.mo...@ubnt.com" 
>> *Reply-To: *WISPA General List 
>> *Date: *Thursday, July 3, 2014 at 9:29 AM
>> *To: *WISPA General List 
>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Steve -
>>
>>
>>
>> Gino pretty much answered it...We will have guys responding with their
>> results from field.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, the Lite is planned to have PTMP available via software upgrade.
>>  It will NOT have airPrism.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 6:05 AM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>>
>>  Ben and Matt,
>>
>> So the new RocketAC Lite wont do PTMP and it will not have AirPrism.
>> That I get.  So what is the benefit of these units over a standard Rocket
>> M5 other then it has AC which with only dual Pol what other advantage with
>> this have.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Steve Barnes*
>>
>> General Manager
>>
>> PCSWIN.com
>>
>> Howard LLC.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Ben Moore
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 02, 2014 5:35 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>> *Cc:* WISPA General List
>>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site
>>
>>
>>
>> No products currently available in AirMax like with airprism.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  So when you said no products you mean no Airmax products?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
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>>
>> On Jul 2, 2014 5:32 PM, "Ben Moore"  wrote:
>>
>>  Yes nothing in AirMax yet.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Randy Cosby  wrote:
>>
>>  Unifi AP+?
>>
>> On 7/2/2014 2:52 PM, Ben Moore wrote:
>>
>>  No products released yet with airprism...
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>>
>>   nevermind what I just said ;-)
>>
>> So is anything besides the non-lite Rocket AC getting airprism at this
>> point?
>>
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>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf
>> of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:37 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>> *Su

Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site

[Chuck Hogg]

Are you bringing our friend from Latvia?

Regards,
Chuck


On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Ben Moore  wrote:

> Or a ski trip in park city :-)
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
> On Jul 3, 2014, at 7:50 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
>
>  Between awnsering posts and working with the FCC I should get a check
> from UBNT…
>
>
>
>  Gino A. Villarini
> President
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> www.aeronetpr.com
> @aeronetpr
>
>
>
>   From: "ben.mo...@ubnt.com" 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date: Thursday, July 3, 2014 at 9:29 AM
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site
>
>   Hi Steve -
>
>  Gino pretty much answered it...We will have guys responding with their
> results from field.
>
>  Also, the Lite is planned to have PTMP available via software upgrade.
>  It will NOT have airPrism.
>
>  Thanks,
> Ben
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 6:05 AM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>
>>  Ben and Matt,
>>
>> So the new RocketAC Lite wont do PTMP and it will not have AirPrism.
>> That I get.  So what is the benefit of these units over a standard Rocket
>> M5 other then it has AC which with only dual Pol what other advantage with
>> this have.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Steve Barnes*
>>
>> General Manager
>>
>> PCSWIN.com
>>
>> Howard LLC.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Ben Moore
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 02, 2014 5:35 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>> *Cc:* WISPA General List
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site
>>
>>
>>
>> No products currently available in AirMax like with airprism.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  So when you said no products you mean no Airmax products?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Jul 2, 2014 5:32 PM, "Ben Moore"  wrote:
>>
>>  Yes nothing in AirMax yet.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Randy Cosby  wrote:
>>
>>  Unifi AP+?
>>
>>  On 7/2/2014 2:52 PM, Ben Moore wrote:
>>
>>  No products released yet with airprism...
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>>
>>   nevermind what I just said ;-)
>>
>> So is anything besides the non-lite Rocket AC getting airprism at this
>> point?
>>
>>   --
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf
>> of Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:37 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site
>>
>> Lite = less cost, no airprism, etc...
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
>>
>>   So non-lite = $$$
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> President
>>
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>
>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *"ben.mo...@ubnt.com" 
>> *Reply-To: *WISPA General List 
>> *Date: *Wednesday, July 2, 2014 at 3:51 PM
>> *To: *WISPA General List 
>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site
>>
>>
>>
>> See response in forum...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Matt,
>>
>>
>>
>> The first post asked: "What does the LITE mean in the new Rocket M5 AC
>> Lite?"
>>
>>
>>
>> in which Ben totally skipped over answering it...
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Matt Hardy  wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-General-Discussion/Rocket-M5-AC-Lite/m-p/900726#U900726
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:41 PM,  wrote:
>>
>> I saw that as well. But again, if this is the "Lite" product, is there a
>> higher level product to come, perhaps with GPS?
>>
>> Daniel Mullen
>> ISN Inc.
>>
>> Josh Luthman  wrote ..
>>
>> > Says PTMP comes with a firmware upgrade.
>> >
>> >
>> > Josh Luthman
>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>> > 1100 Wayne St
>> > Suite 1337
>> > Troy, OH 45373
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Zach Underwood 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Have a look at this http://www.ubnt.com/airmax/rocket-ac/
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:44 PM,  wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> So if this is the 'Rocket M5 AC PTP Lite' you should expect something
>> > >> above this as well. Any ideas?
>> > >>
>> > >> Daniel Mullen
>> > >> ISN Inc.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Gino Villarini  wrote ..
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=527992&fcc_id=SWX-RM5ACPTP
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Gino A. Villarini
>> > >> > President
>> > >> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> > >> > www.aeronetpr.com
>> > >> > @aeronetpr
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >> ___
>> > >> Wire

Re: [WISPA] 8x8 antenna for ubnt?? pic attached

[Chuck Hogg]

It would be nice to see an antenna that did 2 x 90 MIMO 2.4GHz and 2 x 90
MIMO 5GHz antennas, effectively a 180 sector that has 2 sectors of 2.4GHz
and 5GHz in it.  I would pay 2-4x the normal antenna price because it will
reduce my tower rent.  I would also help test.  It might also be nice to
have a 120 version with 60 degree sectors in it.

Regards,
Chuck


On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Pedro Ramirez  wrote:

> You're right.
>
> 8 N-Female or SMA connectors for 4 Rockets.
>
> Pedro
> Itelite Antennas, Inc
>
> On 17-Mar-14 12:43 PM, Robert wrote:
> > Now that's a responsive Vendor!   BTW I believe that it would take 8
> > connectors of whatever type
> >
> > On 03/17/2014 11:56 AM, Pedro Ramirez wrote:
> >> We can make a Sector antenna for 4 Rockets similar to the one in your
> >> pictures.
> >>
> >> It can be with 4 external N-Female connectors or with a metal shielded
> >> enclosure with internal SMA connectors to put the rockets inside.
> >>
> >> What frequencies are needed?
> >>
> >> And who would like to test this new design for us?
> >>
> >> Pedro Ramirez
> >> Itelite Antennas, Inc
> >>
> >> On 16-Mar-14 7:37 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> >>> Could it be something like this?
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.itelite.net/en/Katalog/5-GHz-80211a-Triband//PRO-SECTOR-XL-245dual-band2xdual-HV.html
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
>  On Mar 16, 2014, at 9:19 AM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
> 
>  I think one of the many local wisps popping here are getting very
> "creative"
> 
>  Anyone can ID this sector? Im thinking its a Mobile Carrier antenna
> that they are reusing... but what band?
> 
> 
> 
>  Gino A. Villarini
>  President
>  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>  www.aeronetpr.com
>  @aeronetpr
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Guy Wire Calculator

[Chuck Hogg]

If you haven't bought the tower already, it's just as easy to buy a kit.
 The kit also has the lengths as well...so you can review that.  Also,
there's a document on the Rohn site that has it as well under the Rohn25
specs.

Regards,
Chuck


On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Eagle One Wireless  wrote:

> We are putting up a 120 ft rohn 25 tower. First tower we have actually put
> up in a few years. Anyone have a calculator to help me figure up how much
> guy wire to order?
>
> And maybe how many sets i need?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Kevin Melson
>
> Eagle One Wireless
>
> 1505 Hwy 72 E
>
> Corinth, MS 38834
>
> 662-287-1722
>
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Re: [WISPA] DC FCC TV White Space

[Chuck Hogg]

Who from Kentucky is going?


Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Cameron Camp wrote:

> Through a strange series of events, I'm headed to DC next week to meet
> with FCC staff regarding TVWS issues. I'm tag teaming with CompTIA who
> arranged the meetings (along with another rural broadband provider from
> Kentucky) with:
>
> Renee Gregory (Chairman Wheeler)
>
> David Goldman (Commissioner Rosenworcel)
>
> Erin McGrath (Commissioner O'Reilly)
>
> Matthew Berry and Brendan Carr (Commissioner Pai)
>
> I have put together some bullet points, but wanted to get an unprompted
> sense from the folks on this list what I should be mentioning while I'm
> there. How far can we get, what questions should we asking and what is a
> practical expecation for what can be accomplished still before FCC makes
> the decision?
>
> Best,
> Cameron Camp
> IVDataCenter.com
>
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Chuck Hogg]

If you want to outsource for your ISP, they have a partner edition that is
~.35/user or less.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

>  http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/business/pricing.html
>
> $50/user/year
>
>  *Josh Reynolds*
> Chief Information Officer
> SPITwSPOTS
> j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com
>   On 03/04/2014 02:01 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote:
>
>  Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
>
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
>
> Midway Electronics
>
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>
> Cell 219-863-0678
>
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>
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>
>
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>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>
>
>
> google apps for your domain.
>
>
>
> easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-)
>
>
>
> -sean
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher 
> wrote:
>
> Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or
> Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail
> service? All input is appreciated.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
>
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> Midwaynet.net
>
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Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:

[Chuck Hogg]

Not my problem lol.

Regards,
Chuck


On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> How do they get out of the contact?  ETF?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Feb 23, 2014 8:57 PM, "Chuck Hogg"  wrote:
>
>> FYI, we tell them we'd like to leave our equipment for 30-45 days so that
>> they can get a taste of their Verizon bill.  Typically we get the call, My
>> bill was $120+ this month, can I get your service turned back on?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just because it's available to them doesn't mean they're aware of it.
>>>  I'm almost certain people don't check before switching to 4G.  They see
>>> it's 50 mbps and faster than your WISP's 5 or 10 mbps and then get stuck in
>>> a contract for 2 years.  I put it on the bill so they see it every time
>>> they click on their invoice.
>>>
>>> I should mention most customers are automatically billed, so while they
>>> do get their bill via email, they may choose to simply ignore it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 8:42 PM, heith petersen wrote:
>>>
>>>>   Are others doing this on their billing as well? I don't think I am
>>>> going to have a big issue with Verizon. Fortunately our new billing system,
>>>> I think, will show their usage, even though we do not offer capped
>>>> services. They can always look at their portal, but a lot of people still
>>>> are insistent on calling the office to say "charge my card" as opposed to
>>>> going online and hitting "pay now". I guess you have to hit them in the
>>>> face with it some time.
>>>>
>>>>  *From:* Josh Luthman 
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2014 7:13 PM
>>>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:
>>>>
>>>>  Oh that's the first time you've seen it?  Ya, kinda odd looking for
>>>> sure.  It's one of the reasons I started including customers' bandwidth
>>>> usage on the bill.  They see they've done 20 or 30 gigs (at least) and then
>>>> when they see HomeFusion is 5-10 gigs plus a kidney to get all the way up
>>>> to 20, they don't bother (this is speculation on my part).
>>>>
>>>> My guess is that they've got several higher gain sectors instead of one
>>>> omni.  Also I think the reason it is coax is to get power and figure out
>>>> which one of the sectors gets the best signal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 8:09 PM, heith petersen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>   Looks like a friggin dryer vent to me. I have not seen this before,
>>>>> that's my confusion. Its alien to me. Usually I have smarter customers 
>>>>> that
>>>>> ask me how much data they are doing. Other dump me, then get an outrageous
>>>>> bill from Verizon when they watched 15 movies on the Netflix and realize I
>>>>> am not that bad. We recently installed a 450 pointed right at this
>>>>> neighborhood and are running tests with a banker customer. Looking real
>>>>> good, and I am ready to pump out more speed to these customers
>>>>>
>>>>>  *From:* Josh Luthman 
>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:46 PM
>>>>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Looks like a 4G cantenna to me.  What's the confusion?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:43 PM, heith petersen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>&g

Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:

[Chuck Hogg]

FYI, we tell them we'd like to leave our equipment for 30-45 days so that
they can get a taste of their Verizon bill.  Typically we get the call, My
bill was $120+ this month, can I get your service turned back on?

Regards,
Chuck


On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> Just because it's available to them doesn't mean they're aware of it.  I'm
> almost certain people don't check before switching to 4G.  They see it's 50
> mbps and faster than your WISP's 5 or 10 mbps and then get stuck in a
> contract for 2 years.  I put it on the bill so they see it every time they
> click on their invoice.
>
> I should mention most customers are automatically billed, so while they do
> get their bill via email, they may choose to simply ignore it.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 8:42 PM, heith petersen  wrote:
>
>>   Are others doing this on their billing as well? I don't think I am
>> going to have a big issue with Verizon. Fortunately our new billing system,
>> I think, will show their usage, even though we do not offer capped
>> services. They can always look at their portal, but a lot of people still
>> are insistent on calling the office to say "charge my card" as opposed to
>> going online and hitting "pay now". I guess you have to hit them in the
>> face with it some time.
>>
>>  *From:* Josh Luthman 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2014 7:13 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:
>>
>>  Oh that's the first time you've seen it?  Ya, kinda odd looking for
>> sure.  It's one of the reasons I started including customers' bandwidth
>> usage on the bill.  They see they've done 20 or 30 gigs (at least) and then
>> when they see HomeFusion is 5-10 gigs plus a kidney to get all the way up
>> to 20, they don't bother (this is speculation on my part).
>>
>> My guess is that they've got several higher gain sectors instead of one
>> omni.  Also I think the reason it is coax is to get power and figure out
>> which one of the sectors gets the best signal.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 8:09 PM, heith petersen  wrote:
>>
>>>   Looks like a friggin dryer vent to me. I have not seen this before,
>>> that's my confusion. Its alien to me. Usually I have smarter customers that
>>> ask me how much data they are doing. Other dump me, then get an outrageous
>>> bill from Verizon when they watched 15 movies on the Netflix and realize I
>>> am not that bad. We recently installed a 450 pointed right at this
>>> neighborhood and are running tests with a banker customer. Looking real
>>> good, and I am ready to pump out more speed to these customers
>>>
>>>  *From:* Josh Luthman 
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:46 PM
>>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:
>>>
>>>   Looks like a 4G cantenna to me.  What's the confusion?
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:43 PM, heith petersen wrote:
>>>
   I had a customer cancel our service a few weeks ago in a town an
 hour away from me. My billing lady got the impression that she was going to
 use her 4G service. She lives out of town a mile where we are the only WISP
 or service around, aside from satellite or cell service. Our equipment was
 laying by her house as she was away for the day when we were there, but
 stated that the new equipment was mounted in our old spot. So my tech took
 this picture and it said Cantenna on the bottom of it. Its not like the
 Cantenna I have seen in the past. I am real positive that I do not have
 another WISP in the area. Do some WISPS use these devices? The closest
 business is a John Deere dealership, and I am fairly certain their IT would
 not allow external usage of their network, and all of the houses in the
 area use our service. Anyways just curious if any one had any ideas of what
 they could be using this for. I have had other customers cheat WiFi from
 their neighbors with different Cantennas, but I would use a UBNT device to
 re-distribute the service, if that's whats going on

 thanks
 heith

  *From:* 6052801...@mms.att.net
 *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:32 PM
 *To:* he...@mncomm.com
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Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:

[Chuck Hogg]

http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57429650-85/verizons-homefusion-now-brings-4g-lte-home-but-not-for-cheap/

Regards,
Chuck


On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

> Wecome to Verizon HomeFusion.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:43 PM, heith petersen  wrote:
>
>>   I had a customer cancel our service a few weeks ago in a town an hour
>> away from me. My billing lady got the impression that she was going to use
>> her 4G service. She lives out of town a mile where we are the only WISP or
>> service around, aside from satellite or cell service. Our equipment was
>> laying by her house as she was away for the day when we were there, but
>> stated that the new equipment was mounted in our old spot. So my tech took
>> this picture and it said Cantenna on the bottom of it. Its not like the
>> Cantenna I have seen in the past. I am real positive that I do not have
>> another WISP in the area. Do some WISPS use these devices? The closest
>> business is a John Deere dealership, and I am fairly certain their IT would
>> not allow external usage of their network, and all of the houses in the
>> area use our service. Anyways just curious if any one had any ideas of what
>> they could be using this for. I have had other customers cheat WiFi from
>> their neighbors with different Cantennas, but I would use a UBNT device to
>> re-distribute the service, if that's whats going on
>>
>> thanks
>> heith
>>
>>  *From:* 6052801...@mms.att.net
>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:32 PM
>> *To:* he...@mncomm.com
>> *Subject:* FW:
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Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:

[Chuck Hogg]

Wecome to Verizon HomeFusion.

Regards,
Chuck


On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:43 PM, heith petersen  wrote:

>   I had a customer cancel our service a few weeks ago in a town an hour
> away from me. My billing lady got the impression that she was going to use
> her 4G service. She lives out of town a mile where we are the only WISP or
> service around, aside from satellite or cell service. Our equipment was
> laying by her house as she was away for the day when we were there, but
> stated that the new equipment was mounted in our old spot. So my tech took
> this picture and it said Cantenna on the bottom of it. Its not like the
> Cantenna I have seen in the past. I am real positive that I do not have
> another WISP in the area. Do some WISPS use these devices? The closest
> business is a John Deere dealership, and I am fairly certain their IT would
> not allow external usage of their network, and all of the houses in the
> area use our service. Anyways just curious if any one had any ideas of what
> they could be using this for. I have had other customers cheat WiFi from
> their neighbors with different Cantennas, but I would use a UBNT device to
> re-distribute the service, if that's whats going on
>
> thanks
> heith
>
>  *From:* 6052801...@mms.att.net
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Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

[Chuck Hogg]

I said not likely :)

Regards,
Chuck


On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

> What are you guys talking about?  A 30dB dish with a 0dB radio on it will
> easily go 4-5 miles.   Or put a 34dB dish on with a -4dB radio if you want
> more gain.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 12, 2014, at 17:56, Fred Goldstein  wrote:
>
> On 2/12/2014 5:23 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>
> Yea, but the power levels of some are not likely usable in an outdoor WISP
> environment.
> A good explanation is at Wikipedia strange enough...
>
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-NII
>
>  People running equipment in frequencies at a power level higher than
> intended is the issue.  Also, the 5470-5725 band requires DFS.
>
>
> Actually, so does 5.25-5.35, as of 2004 or so.  It didn't originally, but
> when they added the 5.47-5.725 band, which needs DFS, they added the
> requirement to the original U-NII-2A band.  So
>
> 15.407(h)(2) Radar Detection Function of Dynamic Frequency Selection (DFS).
>U-NII devices operating in the 5.25-5.35 GHz and 5 
> <http://www.hallikainen.org/FCC/FccRules/2013/5/47-5/section.pdf>.47-5 
> <http://sujan.hallikainen.org/FCC/FccRules/2013/5/47-5/index.php>.725 GHz 
> bands
>shall employ a DFS radar detection mechanism to detect the presence of
>radar systems and to avoid co-channel operation with radar systems.
>
>
> The power level down there is adequate for some applications, like
> half-mile links.  Lots of old Motorola PTP-400s are legally pumping +5 to
> +9 dBm into panels... one urban path is working over 2 miles, though we're
> replacing it.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Art Stephens  wrote:
>
>> 5265-5320
>> 5500-5580
>> 5660-5700
>> 5735-5840
>>
>>  Are these not USA channels?
>> If am wrong let  me know and I will change them.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:04 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Forrest...what is your offlist email ?
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>>>
>>> - Reply message -
>>> From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" 
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
>>> Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm going to agree with others...
>>>
>>> Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC, and it sounds
>>> like you are definitely running outside the limits since you are whining
>>> about the ability to run your radios in a mode which seems to have no use
>>> than to exceed the limits.
>>>
>>> I will also add that if you're running all your radios hotter than they
>>> should be that your nose floor problem is most likely self inflicted.   My
>>> experience over the years is that radios are designed to run at a specific
>>> tx power and if you're exceeding it you get a lot of out of channel bleed
>>> over.  Even if the radios don't do this you are introducing far more rf
>>> than is likely needed causing an overall rising of the noise floor.
>>>
>>> Please don't interpret everyone's ire incorrectly.   We've just all
>>> either dealt with an operator like you are now or have been an operator
>>> like you are now.  And right now we're trying to gain credibility with the
>>> FCC which is hard to do when some operators are flagrantly breaking the
>>> rules.  Which makes us a bit grumpy.
>>>
>>> I'm sure some of your neighbors out there would love to help you better
>>> understand what you are doing to yourself and help you improve your
>>> operations which will in turn improve your quality of service.   Heck, I'd
>>> drive over there for a weekend if my schedule wasn't so packed.
>>>
>>> In any case please ask for help in appropriate spots and let us help you
>>> reap the rewards of a correctly and legally operating network.
>>> On Feb 8, 2014 4:49 PM, "Art Stephens"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out
>>>> of these frequencies.
>>>> Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that
>>>> platform.
>>>> First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for
>>>> about 40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 -
>>>> 5840 runs at - 50dBm or higher 

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

[Chuck Hogg]

Yea, but the power levels of some are not likely usable in an outdoor WISP
environment.
A good explanation is at Wikipedia strange enough...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-NII

People running equipment in frequencies at a power level higher than
intended is the issue.  Also, the 5470-5725 band requires DFS.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Art Stephens  wrote:

> 5265-5320
> 5500-5580
> 5660-5700
> 5735-5840
>
> Are these not USA channels?
> If am wrong let  me know and I will change them.
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:04 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Forrest...what is your offlist email ?
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
>> Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM
>>
>>
>> I'm going to agree with others...
>>
>> Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC, and it sounds
>> like you are definitely running outside the limits since you are whining
>> about the ability to run your radios in a mode which seems to have no use
>> than to exceed the limits.
>>
>> I will also add that if you're running all your radios hotter than they
>> should be that your nose floor problem is most likely self inflicted.   My
>> experience over the years is that radios are designed to run at a specific
>> tx power and if you're exceeding it you get a lot of out of channel bleed
>> over.  Even if the radios don't do this you are introducing far more rf
>> than is likely needed causing an overall rising of the noise floor.
>>
>> Please don't interpret everyone's ire incorrectly.   We've just all
>> either dealt with an operator like you are now or have been an operator
>> like you are now.  And right now we're trying to gain credibility with the
>> FCC which is hard to do when some operators are flagrantly breaking the
>> rules.  Which makes us a bit grumpy.
>>
>> I'm sure some of your neighbors out there would love to help you better
>> understand what you are doing to yourself and help you improve your
>> operations which will in turn improve your quality of service.   Heck, I'd
>> drive over there for a weekend if my schedule wasn't so packed.
>>
>> In any case please ask for help in appropriate spots and let us help you
>> reap the rewards of a correctly and legally operating network.
>> On Feb 8, 2014 4:49 PM, "Art Stephens"  wrote:
>>
>>> Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of
>>> these frequencies.
>>> Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that
>>> platform.
>>> First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about
>>> 40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840
>>> runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area,
>>> Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840.
>>> Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess
>>> with it.
>>> Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA.
>>> Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports
>>> 5170-5875.
>>>
>>> Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more
>>> money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both
>>> wisps and consumers.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Arthur Stephens
>>> Senior Networking Technician
>>> Ptera Inc.
>>> PO Box 135
>>> 24001 E Mission Suite 50
>>> Liberty Lake, WA 99019
>>> 509-927-7837
>>> ptera.com
>>> facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera
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Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

[Chuck Hogg]

*Revision of Part 15 of the Commission's Rules to Permit Unlicensed
National Information Infrastructure (U-NII) Devices in the 5 GHz band, ET
Docket No. 13-49.*

Regards,
Chuck


On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

> Yeah, I'd let someone official provide something. I wouldn't want to try
> to discern public information from internal information.
>
>
>
>
> -
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> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
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> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
> *Sent: *Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:03:50 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700
> frequencies?
>
>
> Chuck,
> Do you have a link or any information to what the FCC is specifically
> discussing?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 8, 2014, at 18:48, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
>
> People running on those TDWR frequencies like that without proper
> configuration are ruining the Unlimited Gain Antenna rule in the 5.8GHz
> band.  It is before the FCC right now and WISPA just held a manufacturer's
> webinar about it.  Every dish 2'+ would be affected, and would not be
> allowed any longer.  No more 20-30 Mile 5GHz links.  I truly hope you are
> not running your equipment inappropriately.
>
> Ubiquiti already has DFS certified gear, they are VERY familiar with the
> process, and they typically produce DFS options on their 5GHz platform.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>
>> The new NanoBeams will support DFS, they are just pending approval.
>>
>> Compliance Test - do you really want to go down that road?  So what you
>> just said, in a public forum, is that 40% of your radios are running
>> illegally on frequencies they are not authorized to be on.
>>
>> Please pack up and go home.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jan 31, 2014, at 11:29, Art Stephens  wrote:
>>
>> Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of
>> these frequencies.
>> Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that
>> platform.
>> First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about
>> 40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840
>> runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area,
>> Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840.
>> Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with
>> it.
>> Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA.
>> Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports
>> 5170-5875.
>>
>> Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more
>> money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both
>> wisps and consumers.
>>
>> --
>> Arthur Stephens
>> Senior Networking Technician
>> Ptera Inc.
>> PO Box 135
>> 24001 E Mission Suite 50
>> Liberty Lake, WA 99019
>> 509-927-7837
>> ptera.com
>> facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

[Chuck Hogg]

People running on those TDWR frequencies like that without proper
configuration are ruining the Unlimited Gain Antenna rule in the 5.8GHz
band.  It is before the FCC right now and WISPA just held a manufacturer's
webinar about it.  Every dish 2'+ would be affected, and would not be
allowed any longer.  No more 20-30 Mile 5GHz links.  I truly hope you are
not running your equipment inappropriately.

Ubiquiti already has DFS certified gear, they are VERY familiar with the
process, and they typically produce DFS options on their 5GHz platform.

Regards,
Chuck


On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

> The new NanoBeams will support DFS, they are just pending approval.
>
> Compliance Test - do you really want to go down that road?  So what you
> just said, in a public forum, is that 40% of your radios are running
> illegally on frequencies they are not authorized to be on.
>
> Please pack up and go home.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 31, 2014, at 11:29, Art Stephens  wrote:
>
> Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of
> these frequencies.
> Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that
> platform.
> First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about
> 40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840
> runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area,
> Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840.
> Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with
> it.
> Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA.
> Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports
> 5170-5875.
>
> Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more
> money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both
> wisps and consumers.
>
> --
> Arthur Stephens
> Senior Networking Technician
> Ptera Inc.
> PO Box 135
> 24001 E Mission Suite 50
> Liberty Lake, WA 99019
> 509-927-7837
> ptera.com
> facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera
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Re: [WISPA] Marketing idea

[Chuck Hogg]

AFAIK, it's illegal in every state to have an online raffle that is fee
based.  Certain NFP's can get a permit for an online raffle based on state
laws.

You can see your laws for Mississippi here:
http://www.msgamingcommission.com/ or
http://www.gambling-law-us.com/State-Laws/Mississippi/

Regards,
Chuck


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Scott Reed  wrote:

>  Be sure to check your state's lattery/raffle laws.  They vary a lot, but
> many have restrictions about how players can get tickets, etc.
>
>
> On 12/1/2013 12:03 PM, Joe Miller wrote:
>
>  Thinking about how to get my company name out there more in our area…
>
>
>
> A thought that I came up with was a raffle… Raffle off a 2002 KZ C800,
> (see attached) at $5.00 a ticket. Someone will own this for $5.00. but
> instead of the conventional way of the actual paper ticket, come up with
> something that is web based where they can buy tickets through a web page.
> I haven’t got the details on how to do this yet, but looking for ideas. Say
> start on 1/1/14 and have the drawing on the 4th of July or something like
> that.
>
>
>
> Someone owed me money for a job, and this is how I got paid. the
> motorcycle is company owned, and it runs very well.
>
>
>
> Joe Miller
>
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>
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Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease

[Chuck Hogg]

I linked it previously, it's the Boss brand.
*http://tinyurl.com/lezkpld <http://tinyurl.com/lezkpld>*

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:

> What brand do you use and where do you source it?
>
>
> Scott Carullo
> Technical Operations
> 855-FLSPEED x102
>
>
>
> ------
> *From*: "Chuck Hogg" 
> *Sent*: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:13 PM
>
> *To*: "WISPA General List" 
> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease
>
>
> We have been and it has eliminated ethernet issues due to bad cable or bad
> weatherproofing.  I've seen where the cable jacket is messed up, water in
> the ethernet connector area, but because the grease was used it prevented
> the ethernet from failing.
>
> We've also seen issues where the LMR cabling fails or weather proofing
> fails and because of the grease, the same thing applies.
>
> We put it on every RJ45 and every RF connector for installs and tower
> work.  Remember though, a little dab will do ya, no need to put a lot on
> it, otherwise it makes it a mess.
>
> There's a reason that all the big telco companies have been using it on
> phone lines for years.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>
>>  Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors?
>> Thanx
>> NGL
>>
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>> And if it's in English Thank A Soldier!
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Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease

[Chuck Hogg]

We've been doing it this way for 6-7 years.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

> I haven't bought it in a long time (because I bought a big case of it on
> eBay once at a huge discount and we still have inventory), but this place
> has the version we use... *http://tinyurl.com/lezkpld
> <http://tinyurl.com/lezkpld>*
> Typically, we put it the barrel part of the N-Connector where the pin is...
>
> Remember, a little dab will do ya.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Blair Davis  wrote:
>
>>  Where do you get it in reasonable quantity and how would it be used in N
>> connectors.
>>
>> Starting to see some water ingress on old, >5year, weather proofed N
>> connections.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> On 11/15/2013 6:12 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>>
>> We have been and it has eliminated ethernet issues due to bad cable or
>> bad weatherproofing.  I've seen where the cable jacket is messed up, water
>> in the ethernet connector area, but because the grease was used it
>> prevented the ethernet from failing.
>>
>>  We've also seen issues where the LMR cabling fails or weather proofing
>> fails and because of the grease, the same thing applies.
>>
>>  We put it on every RJ45 and every RF connector for installs and tower
>> work.  Remember though, a little dab will do ya, no need to put a lot on
>> it, otherwise it makes it a mess.
>>
>>  There's a reason that all the big telco companies have been using it on
>> phone lines for years.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>
>>>  Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors?
>>> Thanx
>>> NGL
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease

[Chuck Hogg]

I haven't bought it in a long time (because I bought a big case of it on
eBay once at a huge discount and we still have inventory), but this place
has the version we use... *http://tinyurl.com/lezkpld
<http://tinyurl.com/lezkpld>*
Typically, we put it the barrel part of the N-Connector where the pin is...

Remember, a little dab will do ya.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Blair Davis  wrote:

>  Where do you get it in reasonable quantity and how would it be used in N
> connectors.
>
> Starting to see some water ingress on old, >5year, weather proofed N
> connections.
>
> --
>
>
> On 11/15/2013 6:12 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>
> We have been and it has eliminated ethernet issues due to bad cable or bad
> weatherproofing.  I've seen where the cable jacket is messed up, water in
> the ethernet connector area, but because the grease was used it prevented
> the ethernet from failing.
>
>  We've also seen issues where the LMR cabling fails or weather proofing
> fails and because of the grease, the same thing applies.
>
>  We put it on every RJ45 and every RF connector for installs and tower
> work.  Remember though, a little dab will do ya, no need to put a lot on
> it, otherwise it makes it a mess.
>
>  There's a reason that all the big telco companies have been using it on
> phone lines for years.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>
>>  Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors?
>> Thanx
>> NGL
>>
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>> And if it's in English Thank A Soldier!
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Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease

[Chuck Hogg]

We have been and it has eliminated ethernet issues due to bad cable or bad
weatherproofing.  I've seen where the cable jacket is messed up, water in
the ethernet connector area, but because the grease was used it prevented
the ethernet from failing.

We've also seen issues where the LMR cabling fails or weather proofing
fails and because of the grease, the same thing applies.

We put it on every RJ45 and every RF connector for installs and tower work.
 Remember though, a little dab will do ya, no need to put a lot on it,
otherwise it makes it a mess.

There's a reason that all the big telco companies have been using it on
phone lines for years.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

>  Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors?
> Thanx
> NGL
>
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Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.

[Chuck Hogg]

And then you have this...
http://www.aglmediagroup.com/joint-use-power-poles-raise-safety-issues/

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

> Yes and no... I mean... yeah it's a pain to those of us trying to use
> the spectrum... but then again so is Comcast.
>
> This is exactly why there needs to be some sort of WISP only spectrum...
> with laws carefully written so Comcast can't just say they are a WISP.
>
>
> Matt Hoppes
> Director of Information Technology
> Indigo Wireless
> +1 (570) 723-7312
>
> On 11/15/13, 11:02 AM, Robert wrote:
> > Spectrum trashers   At least if there's no traffic on them there
> > shouldn't be much noise..
> >
> > On 11/15/2013 06:26 AM, Zach Mann wrote:
> >> He's talking about these... (see attached)
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Scott Carullo
> >> mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>  I'm not talking about the ones in peoples homes, I'm talking about
> >>  the ones the cable carrier hangs on the lines outside runing
> through
> >>  the city on every corner  clear LOS to every tower around.
> >>
> >>  Scott Carullo
> >>  Technical Operations
> >>  855-FLSPEED x102
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>  
> >>  *From*: "Brian Webster"  >>  >
> >>  *Sent*: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:24 AM
> >>  *To*: "WISPA General List"  >>  >
> >>  *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
> >>
> >>  One good thing about the higher bands and the noise floor is that
> >>  free space loss works to your advantage. That being that a 5 GHz
> >>  indoor Omni home AP router signal will fall off as an interference
> >>  source as a much shorter distance than a 2.4 GHz device will. The
> >>  laws of physics work in your favor.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  Thank You,
> >>
> >>  Brian Webster
> >>
> >>  www.wirelessmapping.com 
> >>
> >>  www.Broadband-Mapping.com 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> >>  
> >>  [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> >>  ] *On Behalf Of *Scott Carullo
> >>  *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:52 PM
> >>  *To:* Matt Hoppes; sc...@brevardwireless.com
> >>  ; WISPA General List
> >>  *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  Hard to tell, noise floor is noise floor which keeps creeping up -
> >>  we all know things work better when its quiet.  This used to worry
> >>  me a lot when I saw it coming, but then I realized it was already
> >>  there and I had no idea until I just happened to scan on some
> radios
> >>  (I don't usually install the stuff).  I'm not worried any more, if
> >>  its not one thing it will be another any way.  Thats what gives us
> >>  the edge every day, flexibility.  We will work around it, we
> always do.
> >>
> >>  I figure a high gain antenna on a tower with a good directional CPE
> >>  will continue to work fine.  Their omni low gain antenna can't
> >>  compete with a 20-30db directional one.  Still sucks though, you
> >>  drive down the street and see one after another running 5Ghz just
> >>  knowing there probably isn't 3 connections in the whole city to
> them
> >>
> >>  Scott Carullo
> >>  Technical Operations
> >>  855-FLSPEED x102
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>  
> >>
> >>  *From*: "Matt Hoppes"  >>  >
> >>  *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM
> >>  *To*: "sc...@brevardwireless.com  >"
> >>  mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>>,
> >>  "WISPA General List"  wireless@wispa.org>>
> >>  *Cc*: "WISPA General List"  >>  >
> >>  *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
> >>
> >>  Are you seeing any impact from them?
> >>
> >>
> >>  On Nov 14, 2013, at 18:03, "Scott Carullo"
> >>  mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Yeah, won't matter either way with a 5Ghz AP on every street
> >>  corner.  Already seeing that in our areas  do a wireless
> >>  scan and you see 354 5Ghz APs now in addition to the 2Ghz ones
> >>  (they run dual band APs now).
> >>
> >>  Scott Carullo
> >>  Technical Operations
> >>  855-FLSPEED x102
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>  
> >>
> >>  *From*: "Bret Clark"  >>  >
> >>  *Sent*: Thursday, 

Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.

[Chuck Hogg]

How would you power it on fiber?

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

>  Anyideas on the cost? It would be a great addition to any aerial fiber
> built out
>
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> g...@aeronetpr.com
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> 787.273.4143
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Zach Mann
> *Sent:* Friday, November 15, 2013 10:30 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
>
>
>
> It's not just Comcast, TW, Cox are also taking advantage of the simplicity
> of the newer 7781-CM Access Point.   They are offering free wifi to
> existing clients for retention.  Down the road cellular offloading
> 802.11u
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Matt Hoppes 
> wrote:
>
> That's one way to avoid pole attachment fees! LOL.
>
> What is Comcast trying to accomplish with these?
>
>
> Matt Hoppes
> Director of Information Technology
> Indigo Wireless
> +1 (570) 723-7312
>
>
> On 11/15/13, 9:26 AM, Zach Mann wrote:
> > He's talking about these... (see attached)
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Scott Carullo
>
> > mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not talking about the ones in peoples homes, I'm talking about
> > the ones the cable carrier hangs on the lines outside runing through
> > the city on every corner  clear LOS to every tower around.
> >
> > Scott Carullo
> > Technical Operations
> > 855-FLSPEED x102
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
> 
> > *From*: "Brian Webster"  > >
> > *Sent*: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:24 AM
> > *To*: "WISPA General List"  > >
> > *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
>
> >
> > One good thing about the higher bands and the noise floor is that
> > free space loss works to your advantage. That being that a 5 GHz
> > indoor Omni home AP router signal will fall off as an interference
> > source as a much shorter distance than a 2.4 GHz device will. The
> > laws of physics work in your favor.
> >
> > Thank You,
> >
> > Brian Webster
> >
>
> > www.wirelessmapping.com 
> >
> > www.Broadband-Mapping.com 
> >
> > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> > 
> > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> > ] *On Behalf Of *Scott Carullo
> > *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:52 PM
> > *To:* Matt Hoppes; sc...@brevardwireless.com
> > ; WISPA General List
> > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
>
> >
> > Hard to tell, noise floor is noise floor which keeps creeping up -
> > we all know things work better when its quiet.  This used to worry
> > me a lot when I saw it coming, but then I realized it was already
> > there and I had no idea until I just happened to scan on some radios
> > (I don't usually install the stuff).  I'm not worried any more, if
> > its not one thing it will be another any way.  Thats what gives us
> > the edge every day, flexibility.  We will work around it, we always
> do.
> >
> > I figure a high gain antenna on a tower with a good directional CPE
> > will continue to work fine.  Their omni low gain antenna can't
> > compete with a 20-30db directional one.  Still sucks though, you
> > drive down the street and see one after another running 5Ghz just
> > knowing there probably isn't 3 connections in the whole city to
> them
> >
> > Scott Carullo
> > Technical Operations
> > 855-FLSPEED x102
> >
>
> >
> 
> >
> > *From*: "Matt Hoppes"  > >
> > *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM
> > *To*: "sc...@brevardwireless.com "
> > mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>>,
> > "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org
> >>
> > *Cc*: "WISPA General List"  > >
> > *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
>
> >
> > Are you seeing any impact from them?
> >
> >
> > On Nov 14, 2013, at 18:03, "Scott Carullo"
>
> > mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, won't matter either way with a 5Ghz AP on every street
> > corner.  Already seeing that in our areas  do a wireless
> > scan and you see 354 5Ghz APs now in addition to the 2Ghz ones
> > (they run dual band APs now).
> >
> > Scott Carullo
> > Technical Operations
> > 855-FLSPEED x102
> >
>
> >
> 

Re: [WISPA] High winds destroy wind turbine blades

[Chuck Hogg]

We had one that was supposed to turn on the brakes as well, and it didn't
fare so well either.

Regards,
Chuck


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Randy Cosby  wrote:

>  The turbine has automatic braking - but it's not enough...
>
>
> On 10/28/2013 1:08 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>
> Just when you want to be able to turn on the breaks!
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Clay Stewart <
> cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:
>
>> If they are boomerang blades, they will be back in a while.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Matt Hoppes 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, if you wouldn't put boomerang blades on it it might have lasted
>>> longer. :P
>>>
>>> Yikes!
>>>
>>> On Oct 28, 2013, at 14:54, Randy Cosby  wrote:
>>>
>>> > Nasty wind storms moving through Utah.  This site can get over 100MPH
>>> > but our trusty AirBreeze as survived over 3 years.  Not today.  Caught
>>> > the destruction on our airCam this morning.
>>> >
>>> > http://youtu.be/4KvxGpwBj1w
>>> >
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Re: [WISPA] High winds destroy wind turbine blades

[Chuck Hogg]

Just when you want to be able to turn on the breaks!

Regards,
Chuck


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Clay Stewart <
cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:

> If they are boomerang blades, they will be back in a while.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Matt Hoppes 
> wrote:
>
>> Well, if you wouldn't put boomerang blades on it it might have lasted
>> longer. :P
>>
>> Yikes!
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2013, at 14:54, Randy Cosby  wrote:
>>
>> > Nasty wind storms moving through Utah.  This site can get over 100MPH
>> > but our trusty AirBreeze as survived over 3 years.  Not today.  Caught
>> > the destruction on our airCam this morning.
>> >
>> > http://youtu.be/4KvxGpwBj1w
>> >
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Re: [WISPA] tablet customer sign off thing

[Chuck Hogg]

I've been doing this for years on our system...it's custom built but
integrates into Platypus.  Essentially, the customer fills out the
information for their contract, signs, then it asks if they would like a
copy sent to their email account.  Then in their Platypus account it is
added as a document in their profile.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

> Funny, we were just talking about this today.  During sign-up we were
> going to give customers a website to go to where they can electronically
> sign the contract and then we file that away.  We're trying to reduce
> paperwork as much as possible.
>
>
> Matt Hoppes
> Director of Information Technology
> Indigo Wireless
> +1 (570) 723-7312
>
> On 10/22/13 3:26 PM, Martha Huizenga wrote:
> > Love to hear about this as well. We are currently using paper. We send
> > the document to the customer over email and then the tech has a
> > signature page that they sign. Our lawyer, says they should sign it and
> > we should retain it.
> >
> > Martha
> > signature
> >
> > Martha Huizenga
> > 202-546-5898
> >
> > */DC Access, LLC 
> > Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!
> > Connecting the Capitol Hill Community
> > Join us on Facebook  or follow us on
> > Twitter  /*
> >
> > */Is your Message Lost in Cyberspace?
> > Promote your business locally with HillAds /*
> >
> > On 10/22/2013 2:11 PM, heith petersen wrote:
> >> I forgot to ask in Vegas last week. We have a new customer policy
> >> being built. We will be enforcing it on new customers. It will be on
> >> our website. I do, however, want customers to sign not just review
> >> something but I don’t want to have paper. I see there are some doc or
> >> proposal aps for Ipad and other tablets. I was curious what, if any,
> >> others were using, and what kind of experience people were having. My
> >> concerns would be that we would need to store these to a different
> >> system, which is not a real big deal. Anyways, anything to get away
> >> from using paper. I assume that the same could be used for signing off
> >> on installs, service calls, site checks and other purposes.
> >> thanks
> >> heith
> >>
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Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] AT&T Launches LTE powered Home Internet and Phone Service in selected markets

[Chuck Hogg]

It's already been happening here...

Regards,
Chuck


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

>  AT&T Launches LTE powered Home Internet and Phone Service in selected
> markets 
>
> ** **
>
> http://ow.ly/nrnQ0
>
> ** **
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Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Runcom Announce 2 NEW 4G/WIMAX exciting products 900MHZ Frequency Range

[Chuck Hogg]

Their product announcement is 900Mhz.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:

> Wouldn't the fact that 2.5GHz is licensed minimize the chance that there
> would be outside interference?  I don't know, I'm asking.
>
> Jeff
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 16, 2013, at 8:42 PM, Tim Kerns  wrote:
>
> > "·Low susceptibility to Interference – due to GPS synchronization"
> >
> > How do they figure this?
> >
> > I think it should be Low susceptibility due to SELF interference.
> >
> > 900 in my area, California Central Valley east of the Bay Area, is almost
> > useless for 900 as the power companies have put in smart meters
> >
> > Tim
> > CV-Access, Inc.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Matt Hoppes
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:53 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: [WISPA] Fwd: Runcom Announce 2 NEW 4G/WIMAX exciting products
> > 900MHZ Frequency Range
> >
> > Just got this today:
> >
> > This sounds interesting anyone have any thoughts?  900MHz always
> > gets the "propagation" advertisement, but my experience has been that
> > while it propagates better, the gain limitations and size of reasonable
> > antennas make it unusable.
> >
> >
> >  Original Message 
> > Subject: Runcom Announce 2 NEW 4G/WIMAX exciting products 900MHZ
> > Frequency Range
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:16:18 +0300
> > From: Asa Yanai 
> > To: undisclosed-recipients:;
> >
> >
> >
> >
> __
> >
> > Runcom Announce 2 NEW 4G/WIMAX exciting products:
> >
> > v*New 4G/WIMAX  Solution at 900MHZ Frequency Range *
> >
> > *Combines long Range , High Capacity and low susceptibility to
> > Interference *
> >
> > ·Long Range - due to 900MHz propagation
> >
> > ·Non Line of Sight – due to 900MHZ propagation and OFDMA technology
> > (unique to 4G)
> >
> > ·High Capacity – due to 4G/WIMAX  high spectral efficiency (4
> > bits/sec/Hz) and MIMO utilization
> >
> > ·Low susceptibility to Interference – due to GPS synchronization
> >
> > ·Base Stations and Outdoor CPE's available now
> >
> > v*New Enhanced WIMAX Base Station with Radius Interface. *
> >
> > ·IEEE.802.16e compliant
> >
> > ·Enables stand alone connection to the NOC without the need of ASN
> Gateway
> >
> > ·For additional features please refer to the attached  brochure
> >
> > For more information please contact :
> >
> > */Asa Yanai/*
> >
> > RUNCOM USA
> >
> > V.P Business Development & Marketing USA
> >
> > Cell: 917 848 3753
> >
> > Email: a...@runcom.com 
> >
> > or
> >
> > */Israel Koffman/*
> >
> > VP Marketing and Sales
> >
> > USA Mobile Phone: 1-646-530-1502
> >
> > Skype: Israel.Koffman
> >
> > FAX:+972-3-9528805
> >
> > Websites: www.runcom.com 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Advertising IP space for Business Customers

[Chuck Hogg]

It's just a slightly different configuration and usually carriers either
don't charge or charge something minimal like $50/mth or a setup fee.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Bobby Burrow  wrote:

> What is the general consensus in regards to advertising AS number space
> for business/non-profit client that has their own allocation of space
> from ARIN? Let's say the customer has service from you as a backup and
> wants to transition to you as a primary and continue to use their own IP
> space.
>
> I am looking in to the feasibility of meeting this request and what, if
> any, fees to quote to the customer. Any advice would be appreciated.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

[Chuck Hogg]

Curious, has anyone paid yet?

Regards,
Chuck


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Jim Patient  wrote:

> You can charge them to investigate these complaints.  We reply to the
> letters pointing them to our website with pricing for us to investigate.
> So far none of them have elected to pay us to find the offender.   Not like
> it’s hard for us because all of our users have public IPs.  
>
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> Jim
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> ** **
>
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> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
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> *Sent:* Monday, June 03, 2013 2:00 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
>
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents
>
> ** **
>
> I am trying to stop or hinder the copyright infringement problem.
>
> Anyone have a good answer?
>
> NGL
>
> *From:* Josh Reynolds  
>
> *Sent:* Monday, June 03, 2013 11:46 AM
>
> *To:* wireless@wispa.org 
>
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents -> Steve
>
> ** **
>
> I agree with Steve. There are tons of ways to obfuscate torrent traffic,
> and VPN/proxy services are gaining in popularity, which makes the traffic
> encrypted.
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Re: [WISPA] American Tower and US Post Office Roofs

[Chuck Hogg]

You'd be surprised what some of the high density cities are doing...

Regards,
Chuck


On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

> This is more a curiosity question than anything else.
>
> Does anyone know why American Tower seems to list all (or at least many)
> US Post Office Roofs as "rental rooftops"?
>
> At least around here the post offices are usually some of the smaller
> structures and I can't imagine anyone renting the roof space.
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Re: [WISPA] GA Aircraft Interrupting Microwaves?

[Chuck Hogg]

We have equipment at 2 airports, have not seen this.

Regards,
Chuck


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

> I've got a bizarre one here
>
> Has anyone else ever experienced a GA aircraft flying in front of a
> tower and breaking a microwave (in this case RADWin) path long enough to
> bring down the link for approximately 10 seconds?
>
> We have a tower that loses connectivity about once or twice a day for
> around 10 seconds, and all data points to it being some GA aircraft
> taking off from a local field and having a flight path that takes them
> right in the RF path of the microwave.
>
> Next calm day one of the local pilots is going to fly a few touch-n-goes
> for us to confirm the theory.
>
> Just curious if anyone else has ever encountered this?
>
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Re: [WISPA] Acros the border services

[Chuck Hogg]

I know of one health care company that does this, but apparently it is done
"under the radar", meaning in a window of a building on both sides.  I
wouldn't have believed it until the CFO showed me pics of the PTP-600.

Regards,
Chuck


On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Kevin Owen  wrote:

> Hi everybody, 
>
> ** **
>
> I was asked by a bandwidth partner to see if anyone had any experience
> providing microwave shots that crossed from the US to Mexico, specifically,
> from Texas to Mexico.   Since we live nowhere near, this isn’t an issue
> that I have ever addressed or researched.  I am sure there are a whole host
> of potential issues.
>
> ** **
>
> Likely there are import / export regulations concerning the hardware,
> frequency use, licensing issues, etc etc.  If this is even possible and
> legal, they may be looking for someone’s help to build a microwave path
> that originates in the US with the other side being in Mexico.  
>
> ** **
>
> Is there anybody on the list providing services to both sides of the
> boarder or anybody with any experience that can say that it isn’t possible?
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> ** **
>
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>
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Re: [WISPA] KY show in April

[Chuck Hogg]

Also, when WISPA books a show, it is also reliant on how many nights are
booked to get a good conference room rate.

Regards,
Chuck


On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

>  You pay for convenience and comfort 
>
> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2013, at 8:41 AM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" 
> wrote:
>
>   That hotel is normally twice the WISPA rate...and it's virtually
> attached to the conference center.  I looked at Hotwire and couldn't find
> anything more reasonable nearby.  I suppose you could find something
> further out.
>
>  Jeff
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 9, 2013, at 2:53 AM, Blair Davis  wrote:
>
>  I have no problem with the $498 I paid to WISPA for the conference.
>
> I have no problem with my yearly membership to WISPA.  I think it is worth
> every penny.
>
> I am also one of those who has no interest in Vegas and who pestered Rick
> for another Mid-West show like St. Louis.  (Thanks, Rick!!  And for the
> next non-Vegas conference, let's be thinking AL,AR,MS,OK,TN,TX.  After all,
> Vegas as anchor pretty much covers the west.)
>
> But,  I can't justify $126+tax for a room I'll be in 9-10 hours a day, and
> asleep most of that!  And that extra $250 is, well, $250.  I can think of a
> lot of things I'd rather spend $250 on than a room to sleep in.
>
> Maybe it is just a different way of looking at things.  When we go out on
> vacation, most of the time we are in Motel 6 or Super 8.  We drive and look
> at things and stop where ever things look interesting.
>
> Technically, this is work.  I'm less likely to spend more on a motel for
> work than for play!
>
> And I am not complaining... I was just looking to see if I was alone...
> Seems not.
>
> --
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>
> On 2/9/2013 12:45 AM, Joel White wrote:
>
> Or you could look at the advantages of staying on location, supporting
> WISPA that went out of their way to get a location that would support the
> conference yet be affordable to the 500 mile radius that a majority of the
> WISPS are in. Or just accept that no matter what you do you can never
> satisfy everyone. Remember that any conference needs volume to get a
> reduced rate. Stay elsewhere and the numbers go down. Jmo.
>
> Josh Luthman  wrote:
>>
>> Ya that's my usual plan :)
>>
>> There's actually a meta search site that aggregates them for me.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>> On Feb 8, 2013 11:29 PM, "Justin Wilson"  wrote:
>>
>>>  Hotwire.com is your friend.
>>>
>>>   From: Josh Luthman 
>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>>> Date: Friday, February 8, 2013 11:17 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List 
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] KY show in April
>>>
>>>  Where was 50/night?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Feb 8, 2013 11:15 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Many of us are cheap...that's why we're still here. :)


 - Original Message -
 *From:* Blair Davis 
 *To:* WISPA General List 
 *Sent:* Friday, February 08, 2013 9:51 PM
 *Subject:* [WISPA] KY show in April

  Is anyone else looking to save some cash by staying a mile or two away
 instead of right downtown?

 To me, $126 a nite +tax is a LOT for a motel room.

 Especially when I can find places within 4 miles for less than $50 a
 nite + tax.

 I can't believe that parking or a taxi will cost more than $75 a day...

 Maybe I'm just cheap, but the only time I've ever paid more than $69 a
 night was for a special weekend away.

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Re: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago

[Chuck Hogg]

?  I did my certified rescue on a guyed tower and it was pretty easy.
 We've done practice rescues on a Self Support.  All pretty much the same.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Jeff Broadwick  wrote:

> Can you imagine how much more difficult that would have been if it weren't
> a
> monopole?
>
>
> Regards,
>
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> 847-238-2481 Office
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Greg Osborn
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:38 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Tower rescue in TN a couple weeks ago
>
>
>
>
> http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/01/watch-man-rescued-from-gaithersburg-cel
> l-tower-84385.html
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>
>
> Tower climber went into hypothermia on the 1-23-13 and had to be rescued
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Re: [WISPA] Cell Company Tower Contacts

[Chuck Hogg]

So basically you are looking for Tower Lease Management.  Most big
companies, AT, GTP, etc. will do this...there are a couple of brokers as
well.

Regards,
Chuck


On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 3:57 PM, LTI - Dennis Burgess wrote:

> I am looking for contacts and/or places to submit towers with colo space
> to cell companies   i.e. if you have a location for a tower or a tower
> already and you would like to see if you can lease space on it to
> cell companies, or is this better to go though a broker service?
>
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Re: [WISPA] Details for WISPAmerica 2013

[Chuck Hogg]

Rick posted 4 days ago that it would be announced this week...I know they
are completing a lot of things in the background at this time.

Regards,
Chuck


On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

> Is this event planning complete?  I'm not finding an agenda/venue/etc.
>
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Re: [WISPA] DISH Network Dropping Us

[Chuck Hogg]

LOL Doug...I know I was a big DN proponent for quite some time...but their
recent moves have left me with some food for thought.

I guess this is the whole reason we're planning FTTH...

Regards,
Chuck


On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Doug Clark  wrote:

> This song comes to mind Chuck!
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST86JM1RPl0
>
>
>
>
>  *---Original Message---*
>
>  *From:* Chuck Hogg 
> *Date:* 12/27/2012 2:30:37 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] DISH Network Dropping Us
>
> Is anyone else worried that Google will also throw money into the bowl for
> LTE with DN?  They have a good working relationship right now...
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Paul Diem  wrote:
> Yes, we average a little over 3 per month.
>
> Paul C Diem
> pcd...@foxvalley.net
>
> On 12/27/2012 3:19 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> > 3 per month?
> >
> > Sent from my Motorola Startac...
> >
> >
> > On Dec 27, 2012, at 5:08 PM, "Paul Diem"  wrote:
> >
> >> We signed up as a DISH Network reseller back in 2010 when they were
> >> approaching WISP's. We've averaged around 3+ new DISH installs per
> >> month. Last month we received notice that we have not met their minimum
> >> requirements and our reseller account will be terminated on 12/31.
> >>
> >> Our install volume is not huge because we mainly sell to our new and
> >> existing and customers We have used their co-op marketing program as
> >> well. Our old account manager would tell us our sales were great. Our
> >> new account manager has been nothing but a pain. I can't imagine they
> >> have much expense by maintaining us as a reseller.
> >>
> >> I know other WISP's became DISH resellers around that time. Has anyone
> >> else been dropped as a reseller by DISH?
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Re: [WISPA] DISH Network Dropping Us

[Chuck Hogg]

Is anyone else worried that Google will also throw money into the bowl for
LTE with DN?  They have a good working relationship right now...

Regards,
Chuck


On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Paul Diem  wrote:

> Yes, we average a little over 3 per month.
>
> Paul C Diem
> pcd...@foxvalley.net
>
> On 12/27/2012 3:19 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> > 3 per month?
> >
> > Sent from my Motorola Startac...
> >
> >
> > On Dec 27, 2012, at 5:08 PM, "Paul Diem"  wrote:
> >
> >> We signed up as a DISH Network reseller back in 2010 when they were
> >> approaching WISP's. We've averaged around 3+ new DISH installs per
> >> month. Last month we received notice that we have not met their minimum
> >> requirements and our reseller account will be terminated on 12/31.
> >>
> >> Our install volume is not huge because we mainly sell to our new and
> >> existing and customers We have used their co-op marketing program as
> >> well. Our old account manager would tell us our sales were great. Our
> >> new account manager has been nothing but a pain. I can't imagine they
> >> have much expense by maintaining us as a reseller.
> >>
> >> I know other WISP's became DISH resellers around that time. Has anyone
> >> else been dropped as a reseller by DISH?
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Re: [WISPA] DISH Network Dropping Us

[Chuck Hogg]

I've not been dropped yet...but am wondering at this point how much longer
I want to continue with DN.  They are preparing to build out a competing
network...and they already advertise to my customer base the Satellite
Broadband options via Phone, Web, Mailing, and by TV commercial.  I know
DirecTV isn't much better, but they don't own the spectrum like DN does to
build something out.

Regards,
Chuck


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> We signed up as a DISH Network reseller back in 2010 when they were
> approaching WISP's. We've averaged around 3+ new DISH installs per
> month. Last month we received notice that we have not met their minimum
> requirements and our reseller account will be terminated on 12/31.
>
> Our install volume is not huge because we mainly sell to our new and
> existing and customers We have used their co-op marketing program as
> well. Our old account manager would tell us our sales were great. Our
> new account manager has been nothing but a pain. I can't imagine they
> have much expense by maintaining us as a reseller.
>
> I know other WISP's became DISH resellers around that time. Has anyone
> else been dropped as a reseller by DISH?
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Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik

[Chuck Hogg]

2-3 weeks and the CCR will be available...other than that there are
plenty of x86 platforms or the 2011.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Dave Barker  wrote:
> I'm upgrading my data from the provider. It's fiber right now but hands off 
> from the provider as Ethernet. The new circuit is going to handoff as fiber. 
> Currently I'm using a RB493G router at my DEMARC, what Mikrotik router do you 
> all recommend to take a fiber handoff?
> Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

[Chuck Hogg]

I've had to do an RMA with SAF due to a Lightning Event.  Unfortunately,
the radio has to go to Latvia for repairs.  The turn around was about 2
weeks.  I have also done an advanced replacement RMA that took 2 days.
 Now, we buy extra units instead of advanced replacement.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

> When I have priced them before, SAF was the same price as Trango with
> their "standard power"... but when you increase to High Power then it's
> more expensive.
>
> And SAF's 5 year warranty is very cool... the bigger question with this
> type of radio is how quickly can they repair/replace the unit? I just
> had water get into a Trango radio (due to improper installation), and I
> did a complete RMA process with Trango and had the radio back, fixed, in
> one week. That's from the day I submitted the request until I had the
> repaired radio back. :)
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> On 11/2/2012 8:15 AM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
> > I don't understand, SAF has a standard power version and a high power
> > version.  Cost difference isn't much.
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Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango

[Chuck Hogg]

I have 3 SAF links...operating just fine.  I know of others that have a lot
of Trango links...operating just fine.  I don't think you could go wrong
with either one.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Bill Gaylord  wrote:

> Can anyone help me out?  We are in the process of deciding which company
> to use for 6 licensed links.  Both are similar in price/performance.
> Trango has more tx power and rx sensitivity, thus their antennas are
> smaller, which is a plus.  I would like to know if anyone has any
> experiences with either company and their products.  I met both in
> Vegas, but there is only so much real info you can get from
> Salespeople.  Please send any comments off list as not to pollute the
> list with opinions on products.  If anyone would like to also learn what
> I learn from the list, drop me an e-mail and I will be happy to forward
> the opinions I get on to you as well. Thank you.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Fixed Wireless Footprint on the National Broadband Map as of 12-2011

[Chuck Hogg]

Your Montana State Mapping Agency.

http://mtbroadband.org/index.php/about-the-project/how-was-this-data-collected/

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Christian Palecek
wrote:

> Were do we submit this, we cover Ravalli County, MT.
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,
>
> Christian
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Brian Webster
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:19 PM
> *To:* memb...@wispa.org; 'WISPA General List'
> *Subject:* [WISPA] Fixed Wireless Footprint on the National Broadband Map
> as of 12-2011
>
> ** **
>
> Here is a map image I created from the National Broadband Map Data current
> as of Round 5 (12-2011). This does not reflect the most current updates you
> would have submitted last month. The East Coast states are very
> underrepresented. Let’s see if we can make a push to change that. If you
> know WISP’s who are not participating with their state mapping agencies
> please encourage them to do so.
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Re: [WISPA] [off topic] Anything better than Paypal?

[Chuck Hogg]

Paolo:

In dealing with European payments, it has been my experience that there are
alternatives to Paypal, but they are not much better, if any at all.
 Google Checkout might be the best alternative.  I used to use AlertPay as
well, but it got bought out by Payza.  Then there's moneybookers that's on
it's way to being re-branded as Skrill.

Here's one thing I came to realize.  If you are willing to pay the $25-50
per month to accept transactions, you are better off getting a full blown
merchant account.  They are almost as easy to get accepted as Paypal
without the hassles.

Regards,
Chuck


On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Paolo Di Francesco <
paolo.difrance...@level7.it> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I am looking for a new "paypal" like system for European merchants. The
> ideal would be somebody who will not ask me a merchant-id (paypal does
> not ask for that) and that has a good payment gateway.
>
> I know there are many around but for low volumes and micropayments I
> think it would be nice to not pay a fixed monthly fee
>
> Lately I feel that paypal is not serving us as expected and therefore I
> wanted to see if there could be an alternative
>
> Thank you
>
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Re: [WISPA] This isn't UBNT support.

[Chuck Hogg]

http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users

Regards,
Chuck


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> How do I join?
>
>
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>
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Re: [WISPA] This isn't UBNT support.

[Chuck Hogg]

They already have the list...

ubnt_us...@wispa.org

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Drew Lentz  wrote:

> At the risk of starting a flame war, I think UBNT needs its own list for
> WISPA. I love the conversation in here, but it seems that more and more
> this is turning into UBNT crowd-sourced support. I may be alone on this,
> but seriously.
>
> /just sayin
>
> -drew
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 12, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Olufemi Adalemo  wrote:
>
> Need help,
> I'm looking to deploy a UBNT NSM5 powered by a 24v solar supply.
> Does anyone have experience with this? The data sheet shows that it
> requires a 24v supply however the POE injector supplied is 15v, do I need a
> DC to DC converter?
>
> Best regards,
> - - -
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Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

[Chuck Hogg]

Cisco has this functionality.  I would think if it were illegal, they would
be slapped pretty hard.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/ncs/1.0/configuration/guide/sol.html#wp1040128

Tagging and Containing Rogue Access Points

When the Cisco Unified Wireless Network Solution is monitored using NCS,
NCS generates the flags as rogue access point traps and displays the known
rogue access points by MAC address. The operator can then display a map
showing the location of the access points closest to each rogue access
point. The next step is to mark them as Known or Acknowledged rogue access
points (no further action), Alert rogue access points (watch for and notify
when active), or Contained rogue access points (have between one and four
access points discourage rogue access point clients by sending the clients
deauthenticate and disassociate messages whenever they associate with the
rogue access point).

Regards,
Chuck


On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Jon Auer  wrote:

> As part of the WiFi standard a AP can tell a client to stop talking to it.
> Rogue AP containment systems impersonate the targeted AP and send these
> messages to observed clients.
>
> This kind of functionality is important in cases where you need to prevent
> employees from accidentally creating security breaches. Ie by plugging
> their cradlepoint into the network or not disabling the wifi in a time
> machine NAS.
> On Sep 23, 2012 10:29 PM, "Doug Clark"  wrote:
>
>> If not with RF, how do you suppose that an AP would interfere with
>> another AP? That is what the poster is asking about.
>>
>> I am curious on how you would crack a WEP key without using RF signal.
>> What you are talking about is criminal and your right breaking into
>> secure APs are not under the rules of Part-15.
>>
>>
>>
>>  *---Original Message---*
>>
>>  *From:* Jeromie Reeves 
>> *Date:* 9/23/2012 5:53:20 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?
>>
>> IANAL but, I am fairly sure P15 only applies to RF, not to the OSI
>> layers. If the FCC does have control of the OSI layers from a P15 device
>> then people doing WEP cracking and such are in violation of P15 and that
>> really is a stretch.
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 6:19 AM, Doug Clark  wrote:
>> If there is an AP that does that and it is operating in Part15, it
>> would be directly in violation of the very rules that gave the device its
>> right to exist!
>> The major substance of Part-15 reads: This device complies with Part 15
>> of the FCC Rules. Operation is subject to the following two conditions: (1)
>> this device may not cause harmful interference, and (2) this device must
>> accept any interference received, including interference that may cause
>> undesired operation.
>>
>> If the poster has actually seen an AP that does what he says it does then
>> it would be in violation of Part 15 itself and thus an entity could lodge a
>> formal complaint against the
>> person or entity that was operating said AP and possibly end up with a
>> $25,000.00 ticket.  YMMV
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  *---Original Message---*
>>
>>  *From:* Greg Ihnen 
>> *Date:* 9/22/2012 5:34:47 AM
>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>> *Subject:* [WISPA] Can they really do this?
>>
>> There's a current debate raging right now on the NANOG list about the ins
>> and outs of setting up large temporary networks for things like
>> conventions.
>>
>> This one post caught my attention. Has anyone heard of a WiFi AP that
>> will spoof neighboring networks to intentionally interfere with them, not
>> by occupying/jamming the spectrum in a brute force way, but rather by
>> impersonating the other network and rejecting new associations?
>>
>> The quote:
>>
>> > One of which I forgot to mention. Many of the hotels (I believe all
>> > Hilton properties at this time) have sold the facilities space for their
>> > wifi network to another company. They CAN'T negotiate it with you,
>> > because they don't own it any more. And most of these wifi networks have
>> > stealth killers enabled, so that they spoof any other wifi zone they see
>> > and send back reject messages to the clients. So you can't run them side
>> > by side.
>>
>> Greg
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

[Chuck Hogg]

That's who I use as well, always been happy.
Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Doug Clark  wrote:

> Ti RocketM5 and Regular RocketM5s.
> The Ti Rockets I can understand but not the regular RocketM5s.
> Maybe I am using the wrong source to purchase UBNT but I am sure they are
> the largest disto in the US.
> Streakwave.
>
>
>
>  *---Original Message---*
>
>  *From:* Ben Moore 
> *Date:* 9/14/2012 12:50:15 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router?
>
> Hi Doug,
>
> Which products are you having a hard time finding?
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Doug Clark  wrote:
> The thing that amazes me is that they have a hit with their wireless
> gear and surveillance line. They can not even keep up with production on
> either line..
> Why UBNT is determined to sell everything under the sun is beyond me.
>
>
>
>
>  *---Original Message---*
>
>  *From:* Gino Villarini 
> *Date:* 9/14/2012 9:32:18 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List ;
> paolo.difrance...@level7.it
>  *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router?
>
>
> Hmm lately they (UBNT) seem like a sidewalk salesman selling anything from
> show cones to tennis shoes… IMHO they should focus on the core products **
> **
>
> ** **
>
> Its like the VC approach.. invest in 100 startups, 1 would be a hit
>
> ** **
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> g...@aeronetpr.com****
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> 787.273.4143
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
> *Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2012 11:14 AM
> *To:* paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List
>
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router?
>
> ** **
>
> They hired the Vyatta engineers, it's basically running Vyatta.  It's even
> stated as such on their forums...
>
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> 
>
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Paolo Di Francesco <
> paolo.difrance...@level7.it> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> I see that Ubiquiti is launching a new product, a router.
>
> Well, personally, I do not think that it's a good idea, hard market and
> I really do not see a real reason why I should buy the Ubiquiti router
> instead of other well knows products
>
>  From my perspective the value or a core/edge router is not only in the
> number of packets, it's more into the number of bugs and instabilities.
>
> A new product has less or more bugs/instabilities than others working
> since years in my network?
>
> I am not sure that I want to restart thinking new workarounds for a new
> brand.
>
> Comments?
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

[Chuck Hogg]

Let's take a look at the SR2.  It was poorly designed to have a rf switch
chip that changed between u.fl and mmcx connectors without any type of
surge suppression.  This caused the switch chip to get burned out due to
minimal ESD issues.  The XR2 was released and that component was removed
and a grounding strap was included with every card.  Did they learn from
their mistake and improve upon it? Yes. Kuddos!  But to say that it was
without issues is incorrect.  I've had NSM2's lock up, they connect to the
AP, get stuck at a 1/6 data rate and kill the performance of an AP.  Only
thing that fixes it was to kick the client NSM2 and reboot the device (if
you didn't reboot, it would recur in about 6 hours or so).  Was this fixed
in firmware ? Yes.  Again, Kuddos!

I would bet that you do have lock-ups, but don't notice them as an issue.
 Most of our customers power-cycle everything before calling in as standard
procedure.  That lockup could be unnoticed if that is the case.  It's not
that we're against you Matt, it's just that your statements begin to lack
credibility when they include "I've never had one lock up in 2 years".
 I've been using UBNT devices for the past 6 years and can tell you that if
your case is really true, you are one lucky SOB!

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

> Can you give some examples where you've had equipment lock up?  We have
> many units deployed in the field, on towers, customer sites.  The only
> time I've ever had a lockup was with the 5.3.x bug where after 30 days
> of uptime a change would cause a lockup.
>
> I've never had anything lock up by itself.  We even go so far as to tell
> our customers, if you ever have to power cycle your radio or (us
> supplied) router, call us because something is wrong.
>
> To date (two years) I've received 0 calls regarding this.
>
>
> Matt Hoppes
> Director of Information Technology
> Indigo Wireless
> +1 (570) 723-7312
>
> On 9/14/12 1:29 PM, Doug Clark wrote:
> > Matt,  Have to disagree with you here.  UBNT equipment does not just
> > run..
> > It locks up for no reason and requires a power cycle in order to come
> back.
> > If you want equipment that " JUST RUNS "  and requires no baby sitting
> > that equipment has a Cambium logo on it.
> > You pay dearly for it and I have a significant amount in my network but
> > I am not deploying it because the cost is too high and
> > the bandwidth is too low.  UBNT equipment is very high maintainance and
> > super hard to diagnosis what the problem is when you have one.
> > With all that being said I am still currently only deploying UBNT and
> > actually taking down Canopy FSK to replace it with UBNT 2X2
> > ~Doug
> > /---Original Message---/
> > /*From:*/ Matt Hoppes 
> > /*Date:*/ 9/14/2012 9:42:32 AM
> > /*To:*/ WISPA General List 
> > /*Subject:*/ Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router?
> > Greg,
> > I don't ever recall seeing bleeding-edge firmware with bugs released
> > from Ubiquiti unless you mean the betas?  But that's what they
> > are... betas.   Since 5.3.3 up to the current 5.5.2 release I haven't
> > had any problems with the final releases of software.
> > I can't count the number of Linksys, DLink, Hawking, whatever wireless
> > routers we've replaced for customers because they had problems with
> > their Internet.  We put in a Power AP-N, or an AirRouter and we never
> > hear from them again.
> > Truth be told... Ubiquiti equipment just runs... it doesn't need
> > rebooted.  It doesn't need babysat.  It just runs.
> > No I am not being paid to make these statements.  I just have many years
> > working in IT.  I've used Cisco, MikroTik, Alvarion, Motorola and now
> > Ubiquiti.  The Ubiquiti equipment just works.  I have a backhaul that's
> > been up for over a year with no reboots and no problems.
> > Matt Hoppes
> > Director of Information Technology
> > Indigo Wireless
> > +1 (570) 723-7312
> > On 9/14/12 11:20 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote:
> >  > Are people going to be able to tolerate the bleeding-edge cycle of
> >  > bugs/firmware updates that has been the history with their wireless
> gear?
> >  >
> >  > Once again they're breaking new ground, this time with low cost/high
> pps
> >  > throughput. Will they be able to make it powerful (rich feature set)
> >  > /and/ easy?
> >  >
> >  > It's going to have to be really good to make people switch.
> >  >
> >  > Maybe they're going for a niche market of people who want only
> features
> >  > relevant to the WISP market (bandwidth management, bandwidth
> accounting
> >  > etc, vlans) and not people who want a do-all box like MT which has a
> lot
> >  > of features most WISPs probably don't use (BGP and the forwarding
> >  > protocols come to mind).
> >  >
> >  > Greg
> >  >
> >  > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
> >  > mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it>
> > 

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

[Chuck Hogg]

The war started 5 years ago in Orlando when Mike Ford was removed from the
MUM and was told that MikroTik had no interest in a working relationship
with UBNT.  At that time UBNT was only focused on miniPCI radios and trying
to have an open/working relationship with MikroTik/StarOS.  I think after
that, Robert has looked at MikroTik in the same manner Apple looked at
Adobe.  At first they worked together. Once that tie was broken, they
looked at ways to not only compete, but how to truly create products that
are what the customers want without being clunky.  I praise UBNT for this
and they have made some really kick-ass products since then.  Putting their
router in the same class as even MikroTik at this time is a bit of a rush.
 Once the product line has matured, I'm sure they will be an option that is
definitely worth looking at and will compete with MikroTik, and they are
not far from it.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:

> At 9/14/2012 11:38 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> >They are focusing on their core product (wireless).  The team there has
> >not been taken to any other projects.  Rather, the income from the
> >wireless has generated enough profits that they can hire NEW teams in
> >order to be able to expand their product lines.
> >
> >And why not?  A router is a perfect fit.  So now we have:
> >
> >* Wireless Equipment
> >* Switch that can power equipment
> >* Router
> >* Hotspot equipment
> >* Hi-Cap Backhaul
> >
> >Really, Ubiquiti is staged to clean-up the WISP market.  They are a
> >one-stop shop.  They make equipment and make equipment that works well.
>
> Another way to say it:  This is war, MikroTik is their enemy, and
> they've taken the gloves off!
>
> For a while there was detente between Califonia and Latvia.  MikroTik
> owned the router space, while Ubiquiti owned the packaged radio and
> antenna space.  Sure there was some overlap, but hybrid integrations
> like UbTik were natural.
>
> Then MikroTik underpriced UBNT with its SXT radios.  So now UBNT is
> fighting back big time.  The winner, of course, is the
> customer.  More bang, fewer bucks.
>
> MikroTik, of course, has not finished playing its cards.  CCR is
> going to be interesting, basd on the 36-core Tilera processor.  If
> they can keep RouterOS stable on that, then it will move into new markets.
>
> I am not concerned about the limits of software-based routing.  If I
> were Cisco, I'd be worried!  New processors have a lot of speed and
> I/O capability. There are some high end applications where hardware
> acceleration is needed, but that's a narrow, if lucrative,
> market.  As far as features are concerned, Linux has a pretty good
> set of capabilities already, and keeps accreting more into its GPL
> ecosystem.  The proprietary stuff is the polish, like the UI.
>
> I am not happy, for instance, with how RouterOS supports MEF Carrier
> Ethernet.  I don't think they've heard of it yet.  The raw pieces are
> probably there but assembling it onto an interface is a real
> puzzle.  Nor does it seem to be on UBNT's radar, though it's a huge
> market. Maybe they've noticed how cheap those switches are and just
> don't want to compete in that space.
>
> But it's not as if EdgeOS is being written from scratch.  Nor were
> AirOS or RouterOS.  They're all swimming in a GPL pool.  The trick is
> to integrate it and match it to the hardware.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

[Chuck Hogg]

I must live on a different planet, but there are products that Ubiquiti has
failed on over the years and has EOL'd the product as a result.  Look at
GPS Sync in the RM5/RM2 product lines.  Look at ToughCable L1/L2.  Look at
LiteStations.  Wonder why they are EOL?  I give praise to UBNT when praise
is deserved.  Not before a product has even been put through it's paces.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

> Sorry... I don't agree that Ubiquiti is in the same category as Cisco or
> Motorola. I have Cisco switches and routers with 5+ YEARS of uptime. My
> main Cisco switch is moving over 1500Mbps of graphic daily and has been
> up for over 2+ years.
>
> We have had many Ubiquiti radios that if they have more than 100 days
> uptime, you have to reboot them BEFORE doing a firmware upgrade or else
> when they come back they won't pass traffic (even though they are
> connected via wireless).
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> On 9/14/2012 9:42 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> > Greg,
> > I don't ever recall seeing bleeding-edge firmware with bugs released
> > from Ubiquiti unless you mean the betas?  But that's what they
> > are... betas.   Since 5.3.3 up to the current 5.5.2 release I haven't
> > had any problems with the final releases of software.
> >
> > I can't count the number of Linksys, DLink, Hawking, whatever wireless
> > routers we've replaced for customers because they had problems with
> > their Internet.  We put in a Power AP-N, or an AirRouter and we never
> > hear from them again.
> >
> > Truth be told... Ubiquiti equipment just runs... it doesn't need
> > rebooted.  It doesn't need babysat.  It just runs.
> >
> > No I am not being paid to make these statements.  I just have many years
> > working in IT.  I've used Cisco, MikroTik, Alvarion, Motorola and now
> > Ubiquiti.  The Ubiquiti equipment just works.  I have a backhaul that's
> > been up for over a year with no reboots and no problems.
> >
> > Matt Hoppes
> > Director of Information Technology
> > Indigo Wireless
> > +1 (570) 723-7312
> >
> > On 9/14/12 11:20 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote:
> >> Are people going to be able to tolerate the bleeding-edge cycle of
> >> bugs/firmware updates that has been the history with their wireless
> gear?
> >>
> >> Once again they're breaking new ground, this time with low cost/high pps
> >> throughput. Will they be able to make it powerful (rich feature set)
> >> /and/ easy?
> >>
> >> It's going to have to be really good to make people switch.
> >>
> >> Maybe they're going for a niche market of people who want only features
> >> relevant to the WISP market (bandwidth management, bandwidth accounting
> >> etc, vlans) and not people who want a do-all box like MT which has a lot
> >> of features most WISPs probably don't use (BGP and the forwarding
> >> protocols come to mind).
> >>
> >> Greg
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
> >> mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Hi all
> >>
> >>  I see that Ubiquiti is launching a new product, a router.
> >>
> >>  Well, personally, I do not think that it's a good idea, hard
> market and
> >>  I really do not see a real reason why I should buy the Ubiquiti
> router
> >>  instead of other well knows products
> >>
> >>From my perspective the value or a core/edge router is not only
> in the
> >>  number of packets, it's more into the number of bugs and
> instabilities.
> >>
> >>  A new product has less or more bugs/instabilities than others
> working
> >>  since years in my network?
> >>
> >>  I am not sure that I want to restart thinking new workarounds for
> a new
> >>  brand.
> >>
> >>  Comments?
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>  Ing. Paolo Di Francesco
> >>
> >>  Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale
> >>
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> >>
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> >>  Fax : +39-091-8772072 
> >>  assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 
> >>  web: http://www.level7.it
> >>
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

[Chuck Hogg]

They hired the Vyatta engineers, it's basically running Vyatta.  It's even
stated as such on their forums...

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Paolo Di Francesco <
paolo.difrance...@level7.it> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I see that Ubiquiti is launching a new product, a router.
>
> Well, personally, I do not think that it's a good idea, hard market and
> I really do not see a real reason why I should buy the Ubiquiti router
> instead of other well knows products
>
>  From my perspective the value or a core/edge router is not only in the
> number of packets, it's more into the number of bugs and instabilities.
>
> A new product has less or more bugs/instabilities than others working
> since years in my network?
>
> I am not sure that I want to restart thinking new workarounds for a new
> brand.
>
> Comments?
>
>
> --
>
>
> Ing. Paolo Di Francesco
>
> Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale
>
> Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo
>
> C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
> Fax : +39-091-8772072
> assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
> web: http://www.level7.it
>
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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[Chuck Hogg]

Now I remember that same cover is covered by a little steel plate on the
5GHz...thus Victoria is correct in that you need a serial cable to connect
to it.  Per the manual it also states that and how to wire one if you don't
have it.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

> Ok, well then I don't know.  I thought they were the same unit as the
> 900's with different frequency.  The 900's have that port covered with a
> rubber grommet that has a reset button on the board.  The grommet also
> covers the LEDs.  I looked at the manual of the 5830AP and that looked to
> be the same unit.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> That's only on the FOX radios according to that manual.
>>
>> I don't see the button on my bigger units, 5800 and 5830.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
>>
>>> On the bottom there is a reset button under the rubber plug.
>>>
>>> Pressing the reset button will reset the radio's IP address to factory
>>> default of 192.168.100.100, and password trango.
>>>
>>> I confirmed this with the manual:
>>> http://www.barco.cz/en/data/products/download/Access5830_UserManual_F.pdf
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Tony C. Loosle wrote:
>>>
>>>> 5830AP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Chuck Hogg 
>>>>  Friday, August 31, 2012 9:45 AM
>>>> What model radio is this?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>  Friday, August 31, 2012 9:42 AM
>>>>  I need to factory reset the radio as the ip it was configured with was
>>>> lost.
>>>>
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>>>>  Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:00 PM
>>>> Any old timers here remember how to reset a trango 58 series ap?
>>>>
>>>> t
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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[Chuck Hogg]

Ok, well then I don't know.  I thought they were the same unit as the 900's
with different frequency.  The 900's have that port covered with a rubber
grommet that has a reset button on the board.  The grommet also covers the
LEDs.  I looked at the manual of the 5830AP and that looked to be the same
unit.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> That's only on the FOX radios according to that manual.
>
> I don't see the button on my bigger units, 5800 and 5830.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
>
>> On the bottom there is a reset button under the rubber plug.
>>
>> Pressing the reset button will reset the radio's IP address to factory
>> default of 192.168.100.100, and password trango.
>>
>> I confirmed this with the manual:
>> http://www.barco.cz/en/data/products/download/Access5830_UserManual_F.pdf
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Tony C. Loosle wrote:
>>
>>> 5830AP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Chuck Hogg 
>>>  Friday, August 31, 2012 9:45 AM
>>> What model radio is this?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>  Friday, August 31, 2012 9:42 AM
>>>  I need to factory reset the radio as the ip it was configured with was
>>> lost.
>>>
>>> t
>>>
>>>
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>>>  Friday, August 31, 2012 9:29 AM
>>> Can you log in, or is that the problem?
>>>
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>>>
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>>>  Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:00 PM
>>> Any old timers here remember how to reset a trango 58 series ap?
>>>
>>> t
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[Chuck Hogg]

On the bottom there is a reset button under the rubber plug.

Pressing the reset button will reset the radio's IP address to factory
default of 192.168.100.100, and password trango.

I confirmed this with the manual:
http://www.barco.cz/en/data/products/download/Access5830_UserManual_F.pdf

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Tony C. Loosle  wrote:

> 5830AP
>
>
>
>   Chuck Hogg 
>  Friday, August 31, 2012 9:45 AM
> What model radio is this?
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
>
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>   Tony C. Loosle 
>  Friday, August 31, 2012 9:42 AM
>  I need to factory reset the radio as the ip it was configured with was
> lost.
>
> t
>
>
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> Wireless@wispa.org
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>  Friday, August 31, 2012 9:29 AM
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>
>   tcl 
>  Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:00 PM
> Any old timers here remember how to reset a trango 58 series ap?
>
> t
>
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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[Chuck Hogg]

What model radio is this?

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Tony C. Loosle  wrote:

> I need to factory reset the radio as the ip it was configured with was
> lost.
>
> t
>
>
>   Sam Tetherow 
>  Friday, August 31, 2012 9:29 AM
> Can you log in, or is that the problem?
>
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> Wireless@wispa.org
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>
>   tcl 
>  Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:00 PM
> Any old timers here remember how to reset a trango 58 series ap?
>
> t
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Trango

[Chuck Hogg]

Reset button?

Regards,
Chuck


On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:00 PM, tcl  wrote:

> Any old timers here remember how to reset a trango 58 series ap?
>
> t
>
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Re: [WISPA] Invoice from FCC Interstate TRS Fund

[Chuck Hogg]

They are the new administrator

http://transition.fcc.gov/cgb/dro/trs.html/

Search their name.

Regards,
Chuck


On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Chris Fabien  wrote:

> I've gotten a number of emails in the last few days from Rolka Loube
> Saltzer Assoc, t...@r-l-s-a.com which state "As the Administrator of
> the Interstate Telecommunications Relay Service Fund (“TRS Fund”) I am
> writing to alert you that invoice 82925407121, with a balance of
> $32.03 issued to your organization by the TRS Fund Administrator on
> 7/27/2012, is due by 5:00 PM EST on 8/24/2012. Please make your
> payment by this deadline."
>
> It continues to provide information on logging into their portal and
> making a payment.
>
> Is this legitimate or is it someone who pulled my info from the FCC
> somehow and is sending a bogus bill in hopes I'll just pay it? I have
> heard other WISP mention similar scams on the list. We did just start
> filing 477&499 recently so maybe it's a legitimate expense I was
> unaware of?
>
> Thanks for your input,
> Chris Fabien
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Re: [WISPA] [Spam?] {Disarmed} Re: Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...

[Chuck Hogg]

+1
Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Doug Clark  wrote:

> I am using Scottrade online...
>
>
>
>
>  *---Original Message---*
>
>  *From:* LaRoy McCann 
> *Date:* 8/10/2012 1:15:39 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] [Spam?] {Disarmed} Re: Ubiquity ... Stock Price ..
> News ...
>
> Don't yell to loud but do you guys use a local broker or one of the online
> places like etrade, scottrade, etc.?
>
> I'm sure it's something online but just wanted to ask.
>
> LaRoy
>
> On 8/10/2012 2:08 PM, Brad Belton wrote:
>
> I’ve had a buy in all day at $7 hoping to catch a quick drop.  Might
> change that to $8 and see if it gets filled…
>
> ** **
>
> Agreed that I would find it surprising for UBNT to stay at these low
> numbers long term.
>
> ** **
>
> Brad
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Jahan Babadi
> *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2012 1:44 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...
>
> ** **
>
> I loaded up at 8.71 today.  Monday is a 100 M stock repurchase should
> trigger a quick short sqeeze and or a gap retracement.  UBNT long term this
> is a gift.
>
>  
>
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Forbes Mercy <
> forbes.me...@wabroadband.com> wrote:
>
> It's down to $8.88!
>
>
>
> On 8/10/2012 7:04 AM, James Howard wrote:
>
> The lower the price, the more shares they can buy back with the $100M
> repurchase.  That will also flush out some of the whiny investors who don’t
> really have any faith in the company.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Brad Belton
> *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2012 8:11 AM
> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...
>
>  
>
> It will be interesting to watch today and Monday…that’s for sure!  They
> beat their earnings, warn about the effects of counterfeited product and
> announce they intend to take this opportunity to buy back $100M worth of
> shares.  
>
>  
>
> Brad
>
>  
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes
> *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2012 3:54 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Cc:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...
>
>  
>
> Eh. I plan to reinvest heavily. The CEO is planning to purchase a ton of
> stock. Why wouldn't he want it to go low?
>
>
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 0:19, George Rogato  wrote:
>
> After hours had a low of $6.90
>
> http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/ubnt/after-hours
>
> There was a lot of transactions.
>
>
>
> On 8/9/2012 7:05 PM, Brad Belton wrote:
>
> Agreed.  I almost hit that $9ish range a week or so ago, but my order was
> just a bit too late.  My stake in UBNT is very small, but have been
> averaging down and it’s been entertaining at the very least to watch.
> Hoping to acquire a few more shares tomorrow if the price is right!
>
>  
>
> Vegas or the stock market…almost the same entertainment “rush”…lol
>
>  
>
> Brad
>
>  
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Sam Tetherow
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 09, 2012 5:58 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...
>
>  
>
> If you still have faith in the company, now is a good time to buy down
> your cost basis.
>
> On 08/09/2012 05:44 PM, Doug Clark wrote: 
>
> Have you ever had 100,000 barrels of oil that you purchased at 110.00 per
> barrel that you are sitting on and then overnight
>
> the price per barrel drops to 75.00 per barrel?  ON SALE HUH??  
> 
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *---Original Message---*
>
>  
>
> *From:* Zach Mann 
>
> *Date:* 8/9/2012 4:45:42 PM
>
> *To:* WISPA General List 
>
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...
>
>  
>
> Sweet!  It's on sale... 
>
> On Aug 9, 2012 5:40 PM, "Doug Clark"  wrote:
>
> I just suddenly got very ill 
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *---Original Message---*
>
>  
>
> *From:* Faisal Imtiaz 
>
> *Date:* 8/9/2012 4:31:54 PM
>
> *To:* WISPA General List 
>
> *Subject:* [WISPA] Ubiquity ... Stock Price .. News ...
>
>  
>
> OUCH !
>
>  
>
> Anyone following this stuff...
>
>  
>
> http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/ubnt
>
>  
>
> --
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>
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>
> 7266 SW 48 Street
>
> Miami, Fl 33155
>
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net
>
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Re: [WISPA] Opportunity, don't ignore this email

[Chuck Hogg]

All:

If the zip codes are in the database, I can do mileage calculations based
on the need.  I can calculate who/how many WISPs are providing coverage
within 25 miles of a certain zip code.  I can do this quickly and
efficiently if the database is updated and would even be able to respond to
the opportunity with "Based on our current database, XX% of your requested
zip codes fall within 25 miles of a WISP."  This opportunity can turn into
some major cash for a temporary internet connection.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Rick Harnish  wrote:

> 
>
> I will not know the zip codes until WISPA reviews and signs an NDA.  That
> is now in process.  I’m merely pointing out the importance of listing zip
> codes so I can quickly reference that list for initial contact
> opportunities.  We have to start some place.  I realize that many operators
> will expand as necessary to take care of a valuable client.  Zip Codes are
> part of it, finding a WISP on the map relatively close to a given point is
> another way.  There are often a number of WISPA members who serve a given
> zip code or are in close proximity to a given location.  
>
> From my point of view, it is not my place to pick the winners and losers,
> just get the information to those members who could potentially fulfill the
> need.  Do I make mistakes?  Sure I do.  I made one last week in California,
> when I found a provider that appeared on the map, but I didn’t take time to
> do a zip code search and missed another member that could have taken care
> of the client.  I feel badly about that and learned that I need to be more
> careful in the future.
>
> The point is, we have come a long way in the past few years but there is
> still room for improvement.  We need each provider to help us, so we can
> help them.  
>
> *Where there is a Wisp, there is a 
> way!
> *
>
> ** **
>
> Respectfully,**
>
> * *
>
> *Rick Harnish*
>
> Executive Director
>
> WISPA
>
> 260-307-4000 cell
>
> 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office
>
> Skype: rick.harnish.
>
> rharn...@wispa.org
>
> adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick)
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Brad Belton
> *Sent:* Friday, August 03, 2012 1:51 PM
>
> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Opportunity, don't ignore this email
>
> ** **
>
> Rick,
>
> Exactly the point I’m trying to make…listing every ZIP Code in the country
> wouldn’t do the potential client or potential provider any good.  That is
> why I suggest listing the ZIP Codes the potential client is interested in
> and the providers that feel they can serve the area immediately (or expand
> their coverage to earn the business) can respond.
>
> I would be very surprised to learn that we are the only provider that will
> build out or expand network coverage in order to acquire a new account!
> So, the idea of a provider listing only ZIP Codes that they currently cover
> would be considered short sighted…IMO.
>
> I’ll add that the street runs both ways as well.  We have facilitated many
> circuits within our network for third parties.
>
> Best,
>
> Brad
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
> *Sent:* Friday, August 03, 2012 12:35 PM
> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Opportunity, don't ignore this email
>
> ** **
>
> Brad,
>
> I don’t think our database could accept that many and it would not give us
> an accurate picture of wireless coverage either.  The member’s zip code map
> is also generated from this information.  I assume when more details are
> known, you will get the opportunity to bid on various locations, whether
> wirelessly or by data circuit (hardline).
>
> Rick
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Brad Belton
> *Sent:* Friday, August 03, 2012 1:09 PM
> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Opportunity, don't ignore this email
>
> ** **
>
> We have facilitated several data circuits around the country.  Should we
> simply list every ZIP Code in the country?  
>
> Best,
>
> Brad
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
> *Sent:* Friday, August 03, 2012 12:06 PM
> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Opportunity, don't ignore this email
>
> ** **
>
> At this point, they seem to be unaware of the database.  I did not tell
> him about it yet.  It was not their idea to update the database, it was
> mine as I need cooperation from the individual wisps to bring business to
> your door.  The last time I looked, I believe only about 40% of the members
> had updated the zip code information.
>
> ** **
>
> 

Re: [WISPA] [WUG] Fax VoIP solution

[Chuck Hogg]

We've been using this solution for a long time and reselling it to our
customers.

Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> Just talked to someone who has been having good luck with this solution.
>  Put a server in your NOC and then the AudioCodes device is $150
>
> http://www.faxback.com/ 
>
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> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>
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Re: [WISPA] ATA and POE built into router -- need opinions

[Chuck Hogg]

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10024/prod_eol_notices_list.html

Regards,
Chuck


On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Doug Clark  wrote:

> Why?
>
>
>
>
>  *---Original Message---*
>
>  *From:* Chuck Hogg 
> *Date:* 7/2/2012 10:40:58 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] ATA and POE built into router -- need opinions
>
> Those are obsolete.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Joey Craig wrote:
> 
>
> Linksys SPA2102
>
> ** **
>
> Joey Craig 
>
> *Network/RF Engineer*
>
> *Firenet1.Com <http://www.firenet1.com/>*
>
> *Phone:  (662) 510-0764*
>
> *Mobile**: (662) 404-1118*
>  --
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *John McDowell
> *Sent:* Monday, July 02, 2012 10:57 AM
> *To:* a...@afmug.com; wireless@wispa.org; memb...@wispa.org
>
> *Subject:* [WISPA] ATA and POE built into router -- need opinions
> 
>
> ** **
>
> All,
>
> ** **
>
> If you feel you could benefit from a **SOHO** router with built in POE,
> built in ATA or both, please email me on or off list with your comments and
> opinions. What are you currently using for ATA/POE, what percentage of your
> customers are voip customers, etc? What ATA do you use now?
>
> ** **
>
> Sincerely,
>
> John McDowell
> Sales Executive
> Direct: 801.984.5137
> Cell: 256.996.0252
> j...@readynetsolutions.com
> www.readynetsolutions.com
>
> 
>
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Re: [WISPA] ATA and POE built into router -- need opinions

[Chuck Hogg]

Those are obsolete.

Regards,
Chuck


On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Joey Craig  wrote:

> ** **
>
> Linksys SPA2102
>
> ** **
>
> Joey Craig 
>
> *Network/RF Engineer*
>
> *Firenet1.Com *
>
> *Phone:  (662) 510-0764*
>
> *Mobile**: (662) 404-1118*
>   --
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *John McDowell
> *Sent:* Monday, July 02, 2012 10:57 AM
> *To:* a...@afmug.com; wireless@wispa.org; memb...@wispa.org
>
> *Subject:* [WISPA] ATA and POE built into router -- need opinions
> 
>
>  ** **
>
> All,
>
> ** **
>
> If you feel you could benefit from a **SOHO** router with built in POE,
> built in ATA or both, please email me on or off list with your comments and
> opinions. What are you currently using for ATA/POE, what percentage of your
> customers are voip customers, etc? What ATA do you use now?
>
> ** **
>
> Sincerely,
>
> John McDowell
> Sales Executive
> Direct: 801.984.5137
> Cell: 256.996.0252
> j...@readynetsolutions.com
> www.readynetsolutions.com
>
> 
>
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Re: [WISPA] Mail Migration to Google Apps

[Chuck Hogg]

I migrated over 1k IMAP accounts and over 300 Exchange accounts using the
tools Faisal linked.  They are rather simple, but need a little babysitting
to make sure that all of the emails are processed correctly.

Regards,
Chuck


On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Cliff Leboeuf wrote:

>   I have a customer looking for assistance moving the following mail data
> to Goggle Apps.
>
> MS Exchange: 313 Mailboxes - 550 GB of data
>   ProofPoint: 686 Mailboxes -  3 TB
>
>  Does anyone have experience and suggestions or recommendations to assist
> me with this migration please send off-list.
>
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Re: [WISPA] What you can do!

[Chuck Hogg]

Problem is, I was 1 of 2 of about 20 WISPs in KY that actually reported
this data.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

> Couldn't you just request that information from the various state mapping
> agencies that are already doing the heavy lifting?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Matt" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 11:50:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] What you can do!
>
> > Someone asked on the Members List what they could do to help the overall
> > cause of trying to get/protect spectrum and to avoid CAF/USF pitfalls.
> > Thought it would be appropriate here as well:
>
> One thing I always thought might be helpfull. Allow all WISPA members
> to submit all there tower coordinates, heights and frequencies to
> WISPA.  Run propagation studies on sites for them if they allow such
> data to be displayed on a Google Map on WISPA's site with the
> propagation patterns from all other members on it.  WISPA would have
> benefit of true map and users would have benefit of getting copy to
> use themselves.
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Re: [WISPA] 4g?

[Chuck Hogg]

Like I said, it's not 4G LTE like Verizon's 4G.

Regards,
Chuck


On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Victoria Proffer  wrote:

> See attached.
>
> ** **
>
> Victoria Proffer
>
> STLWiMAX, LLC 
>
> 314-720-1000
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Victoria Proffer
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:22 PM
> *To:* 'Jason Bailey'; 'WISPA General List'
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 4g?
>
> ** **
>
> I am seeing some of AT&T 4G in my area, which is very heavy tree canopy,
> and we are seeing 200 ms> latency ... 
>
> I don't see how that can work very well.
>
> ** **
>
> Victoria Proffer
>
> STLWiMAX, LLC 
>
> 314-720-1000
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Jason Bailey [mailto:j284...@yahoo.com ]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:11 PM
> *To:* victo...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 4g?
>
> ** **
>
> 700/800 MHz  with an outdoor antenna?
>
> --- On *Wed, 5/23/12, Victoria Proffer * wrote:
> 
>
>
> From: Victoria Proffer 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g?
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 6:09 PM
>
> How does this fair in heavy tree canopy?
>
>  
>
> Victoria Proffer
>
> STLWiMAX, LLC 
>
> 314-720-1000
>
>  
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Jason Bailey
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:06 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 4g?
>
>  
>
> Anyone remember when sprint did this? The support headache killed it
> quickly
>
> --- On *Wed, 5/23/12, Gino Villarini 
> http://mc/compose?to=g...@aeronetpr.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: Gino Villarini 
> http://mc/compose?to=g...@aeronetpr.com>
> >
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g?
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> http://mc/compose?to=wireless@wispa.org>
> >
> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 6:04 PM
>
> Old
>
> News
>
> Sent from my Motorola Startac...  
>
>  
>
>
> On May 23, 2012, at 5:42 PM, "Jason Bailey"  wrote:
>
>
> http://www.mlive.com/business/index.ssf/2012/05/new_rural_internet_option_veri.html
> 
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Nice
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Re: [WISPA] 4g?

[Chuck Hogg]

AT&T 4G is what we call FauxG.  It's fake 4G.  On the iPhones they are now
calling HSDPA+ 4G, when a few months ago it was still considered 3G.  Now
on their coverage map, 4G LTE is listed separately.  There is limited LTE
AT&T 4G in the US at this time, only in the big major cities.  Not even
available anywhere in KY for example.

Regards,
Chuck


On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Victoria Proffer  wrote:

> I am seeing some of AT&T 4G in my area, which is very heavy tree canopy,
> and we are seeing 200 ms> latency ... 
>
> I don't see how that can work very well.
>
> ** **
>
> Victoria Proffer
>
> STLWiMAX, LLC 
>
> 314-720-1000
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Jason Bailey [mailto:j284...@yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:11 PM
> *To:* victo...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 4g?
>
> ** **
>
> 700/800 MHz  with an outdoor antenna?
>
> --- On *Wed, 5/23/12, Victoria Proffer * wrote:
> 
>
>
> From: Victoria Proffer 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g?
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 6:09 PM
>
> How does this fair in heavy tree canopy?
>
>  
>
> Victoria Proffer
>
> STLWiMAX, LLC 
>
> 314-720-1000
>
>  
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Jason Bailey
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:06 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 4g?
>
>  
>
> Anyone remember when sprint did this? The support headache killed it
> quickly
>
> --- On *Wed, 5/23/12, Gino Villarini 
> http://mc/compose?to=g...@aeronetpr.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: Gino Villarini 
> http://mc/compose?to=g...@aeronetpr.com>
> >
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4g?
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> http://mc/compose?to=wireless@wispa.org>
> >
> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 6:04 PM
>
> Old
>
> News
>
> Sent from my Motorola Startac...  
>
>  
>
>
> On May 23, 2012, at 5:42 PM, "Jason Bailey"  wrote:
>
>
> http://www.mlive.com/business/index.ssf/2012/05/new_rural_internet_option_veri.html
> 
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Nice
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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Washington DC Trip and PLEA

[Chuck Hogg]

I also attended WISPA's Advocacy Day in Washington DC to inform our
senators and congressmen about our industry and who we are.  One resounding
message that was sent to me was that they didn't even know we exist in the
areas we serve.  They don't know what your coverage area is because many of
the WISPs have not participated in the broadband mapping for the NTIA's
mapping project.  They are prepared to hand out funding and spectrum to the
Verizon's, AT&T's, Rural ILEC's, and satellite providers because we are not
representing our industry in their mapping.  I have been successful because
of our mapping in blocking Exede and WildBlue from receiving subsidies to
provide internet access in areas that I already cover.  I know if
Windstream, AT&T, or any other ILEC were to receive millions of federal
subsidies to provide access to my customers that it would severely impact
our business.

I don't know about you guys, but these people are giving away TV's,
Laptops, etc. in my area to obtain subscribers.  The reason they are able
to do this is that they receive subsidies to provide the service, which
typically more than covers the cost of the subscriber's yearly services.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:

> ** ** ** ** ** **
>
> It’s going to vary by state.  In general, participate in your state
> mapping project and complete your 477 form. 
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeff
>
> Sales Manager, Blue Technology
> 574-935-8484 x106 (US/Can)
> 574-220-7826 (Cell)
> +1 574-935-8484 (Int'l)
> 
>
>   --
>
> *From:* members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Friday, May 18, 2012 9:41 AM
> *To:* memb...@wispa.org
> *Cc:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Washington** **DC Trip and PLEA
>
> ** **
>
> What maps?  Connected Nation?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite** 1337**
> Troy**, **OH** **45373
>
> On May 18, 2012 8:15 AM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" 
> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've just spent an amazing two days circling the Capital, with a great
> group
> of folks, spreading the WISP message!
>
> We had 25 or so folks who split in to teams (the whole thing was set up and
> implemented by Forbes Mercy!) and went to visit the Congressional offices
> for each of the team members.  We found staffers who REALLY wanted to know
> about what WISPs are doing to bring broadband to the unserved!  We got to
> speak directly to a number of Congressmen and Senators too!
>
> Some of these folks were not particularly technical.  Some were more
> technical than the WISPs that visited.  The most powerful tool we had were
> the state broadband maps.  EVERYONE can read a map, even if they don't know
> a AP from the UP.
>
> My plea is this:  PLEASE make the effort to get your WISP on the state and
> national maps!!!  If you aren't on there, for these folks, you don't exist.
> If you aren't a member of WISPA, PLEASE join!  The power of numbers was
> incredibly clear.
>
> Lastly, I believe that these trips are going to become a regular event.
>  You
> owe it to yourself, your business, and your industry to make every effort
> to
> be a part of this process.  Get to know your Congressmen.  Get to know the
> key staff.  Keep in touch with them.  Be a resource.  Come visit DC for an
> Advocacy Day.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Jeff Broadwick
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> 574-220-7826 (Cell)
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Re: [WISPA] Brian's coverage map broken?

[Chuck Hogg]

FYI, you can overlay multiple files.
Regards,
Chuck


On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Brian Webster <
bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com> wrote:

> It’s an issue with the size of the file. Google Maps is only supposed to
> support a file overlay size of up to 1 meg. This one is about 2.2 meg so
> sometimes it does not act properly. And yes this file needs to be updated,
> problem is it’s going to make the file larger and probably break it.
>
> ** **
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Friday, May 11, 2012 10:34 PM
>
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Brian's coverage map broken?
>
> ** **
>
> Working for me now.  Weird.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> 
>
> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:17 PM, Jason Bailey  wrote:*
> ***
>
> Way out-dated..but it's good here too.
>
> --- On *Fri, 5/11/12, Chuck Hogg * wrote:
>
>
> From: Chuck Hogg 
>
>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brian's coverage map broken?
>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Date: Friday, May 11, 2012, 10:02 PM
>
> ** **
>
> Works for me
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> 
>
> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Rick Harnish 
> http://mc/compose?to=rharn...@wispa.org>>
> wrote:
>
> Worked for me
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> wireless-boun...@wispa.org<http://mc/compose?to=wireless-boun...@wispa.org>[mailto:
> wireless-boun...@wispa.org<http://mc/compose?to=wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]
> On
> Behalf Of Sam Tetherow
> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 6:55 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brian's coverage map broken?
>
> Yes.
>
> On 05/11/2012 05:51 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> > Does this fail to load at all or completely for anyone else?
> >
> > http://www.wirelessmapping.com/Google%20Maps3.htm
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
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> > Suite 1337
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Re: [WISPA] Brian's coverage map broken?

[Chuck Hogg]

Works for me
Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Rick Harnish  wrote:

> Worked for me
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Sam Tetherow
> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 6:55 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brian's coverage map broken?
>
> Yes.
>
> On 05/11/2012 05:51 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> > Does this fail to load at all or completely for anyone else?
> >
> > http://www.wirelessmapping.com/Google%20Maps3.htm
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
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> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
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Re: [WISPA] pages not loading/displaying properly

[Chuck Hogg]

FYI, a thread was started on this by Mark@Socaltelephone and multiple
people have responded.  Multiple people responded with things to check and
Mark has yet to respond back at any attempts to isolate the issue.  We're
all here to help, but let's not create multiple threads on the same issue
from the same company.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:09 AM, David Hannum
wrote:

> Have you checked your network for packet loss?
>
> Dave
> On May 11, 2012 8:44 AM, "Carlo A. Benavides" <
> cbenavi...@socaltelephone.com> wrote:
>
>> I hope someone can give an idea what to look for with our current issue.
>> Pages will not load properly (attached screenshots).  i.e. youtube.comvideo 
>> boxes are just solid black with no way to play, this includes videos
>> on msn, yahoo, etc…
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Also most of times the page does not load properly (see attached)…  If
>> someone is able to login to the yahoo email they cannot check boxes to
>> delete messages and with hotmail they cannot select the emails at all.  So
>> far I have gotten  10-15 calls with this issue with no obvious thing in
>> common (antivirus, internet security, CPE’s, routers, tower site)  at one
>> point I thought it came down to Netgear routers but after having a customer
>> bypass it, issue still occurred… 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> This issue started for all customer on the same day (last Wednesday)…
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Carlo A. Benavides
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Southern California Telephone Co.
>>
>> 27515 Enterprise Circle West
>>
>> Temecula, CA. 92590
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Office  (951) 693-1880
>>
>> Fax  (951) 693-1550 
>>
>> Cell  (951) 551-7189
>>
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>>
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Re: [WISPA] Customer's web pages not loading/displaying properly

[Chuck Hogg]

Seen that with Netgear routers and SPI.

Seen it with improperly routed networks.

Seen it with proxy caching.

Regards,
Chuck


On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

> Seen that on Trango.  Bad RF link.
>
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> On May 9, 2012 7:30 PM, "Mark Theis"  wrote:
>
>>
>> This all started last Wednesday.  We have had about 15 WiFi customers
>> that are all getting the same symptoms. Pages will not load properly
>> (attached screenshots).  i.e. youtube.com video boxes are just solid
>> black with no way to play, this includes videos on msn, yahoo, etc…
>>
>> Also most of times the page does not load properly (see attached, ignore
>> the teamviewer box on the images)…  If someone is able to login to the
>> yahoo email they cannot check boxes to delete messages and with hotmail
>> they cannot select the emails at all.  We have not been able to isolate any
>> commonalities between the customer’s computers, operating systems,
>> antivirus software, routers, radios, frequency, and even access points. At
>> one point, we thought that we had the problem narrowed down to Netgear
>> routers but after having a customer bypass it, issue still occurred…
>>
>> One of the customers had a computer consultant come look at their system
>> and when they switched to the consultants MyFi the problem stopped... Then
>> as soon as they went back onto our WiFi connection, the problem returned.
>>
>> Has anyone had something like this happen to your network?  Any ideas on
>> where to look next?
>> --
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> Mark Theis
>> Chief Technology Officer
>> *Southern California Telephone & Energy - SCT&E
>> *
>> 1278 Glenneyre Street #76 Laguna Beach, CA  92651
>> Direct: 951.294.5112 | Cell: 951.545.1013 | Fax: 949.715.5511
>>
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>>
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers

[Chuck Hogg]

My uptime is nothing to brag about...but it's been up 41 days since I
last upgraded to 5.14 and I haven't had any issues with them.

Regards,
Chuck


On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:
> Free one from Vegas died.  Bought one and it reboots every few days.  Not
> customer ready.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Apr 26, 2012 3:19 PM, "Blake Covarrubias"  wrote:
>>
>> Is anyone utilizing RB751's for this role? If so, are they reliable?
>>
>> I've thought about using them since they can easily be managed remotely by
>> our staff via Webfig, or the API.
>>
>> --
>> Blake Covarrubias
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2012, at 11:40, Chris Fabien  wrote:
>>
>> We use TP-Link WR340G and can usually get them for about $20 shipped. Just
>> a basic G router, but adequate for most customers/houses. We have over 100
>> in the field and only 1 bad one in about a year of using them. Used to use
>> Linksys and Netgear, had 3-4 times the failure rate on those.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Darin Steffl  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> What are some of you providing for customer wireless routers if you
>>> include them in the install as I do?  I currently have a batch of 10
>>> Ubiquiti Air Routers and the first two I pulled out are giving me some
>>> problems.  Could be a bad batch.
>>>
>>> I am also looking at TP-Link as they are about $30 on Amazon with
>>> external antennas and pretty good reviews.
>>>
>>> TP-Link TL-WR841N
>>>
>>> What are you guys using?
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit??

[Chuck Hogg]

http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/User_Manager/User_sign_up#Setup

Regards,
Chuck



On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:
> Right, I have it installed, but what interface do customers make an
> account?  I've only seen the administrative interface.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
>> It is a package for RouterOS.
>>
>> http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:User_Manager
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Josh Luthman
>>  wrote:
>>> On what web?  I never saw an interface for customers to make an account.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Apr 2, 2012 7:14 PM, "Jim Patient"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Users create their own account on the web or you can log into the web
>>>> interface and do it easy.
>>>>
>>>> The front end can run on any little cheap MT router or AP.  If your using
>>>> other brands of Aps just plug them into a $39 750 for the front end.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 5:55 PM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit??
>>>>
>>>> User creation?  Front end?
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Jim Patient 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Why not just use Mikrotik User Manager and you don't have to pay
>>>> > commission to a third party?  We've been running it on a routerboard
>>>> > for years without issue.  We have virtual Aps on all our residential
>>>> > repeaters running a hotspot pointed to one.  It's simple and works
>>>> > great.
>>>> >
>>>> > Jim
>>>> >
>>>> > -Original Message-
>>>> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>>>> > On Behalf Of Rick Kunze
>>>> > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 12:52 PM
>>>> > To: WISPA General List
>>>> > Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit??
>>>> >
>>>> > I ran across a link to a company called Wireless Orbit.
>>>> > www.wirelessorbit.com
>>>> >
>>>> > I like the service features and all, but the site looks like it's been
>>>> > rather idle for a few years.  No action on the discussion groups, last
>>>> > posts a few years ago, very few posts, stuff like that.  Not to
>>>> > mention the site itself seems only partially complete.
>>>> >
>>>> > Is anyone familiar with these guys?
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks.
>>>> >
>>>> > Rk
>>>> >
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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit??

[Chuck Hogg]

It is a package for RouterOS.

http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:User_Manager

Regards,
Chuck



On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:
> On what web?  I never saw an interface for customers to make an account.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Apr 2, 2012 7:14 PM, "Jim Patient"  wrote:
>>
>> Users create their own account on the web or you can log into the web
>> interface and do it easy.
>>
>> The front end can run on any little cheap MT router or AP.  If your using
>> other brands of Aps just plug them into a $39 750 for the front end.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 5:55 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit??
>>
>> User creation?  Front end?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Jim Patient 
>> wrote:
>> > Why not just use Mikrotik User Manager and you don't have to pay
>> > commission to a third party?  We've been running it on a routerboard
>> > for years without issue.  We have virtual Aps on all our residential
>> > repeaters running a hotspot pointed to one.  It's simple and works
>> > great.
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> > On Behalf Of Rick Kunze
>> > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 12:52 PM
>> > To: WISPA General List
>> > Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit??
>> >
>> > I ran across a link to a company called Wireless Orbit.
>> > www.wirelessorbit.com
>> >
>> > I like the service features and all, but the site looks like it's been
>> > rather idle for a few years.  No action on the discussion groups, last
>> > posts a few years ago, very few posts, stuff like that.  Not to
>> > mention the site itself seems only partially complete.
>> >
>> > Is anyone familiar with these guys?
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Rk
>> >
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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] THANKS!

[Chuck Hogg]

Well these are my thoughts,

-Get Fiber in the ground, I think we've got it figured out, met with
our attorney and discussed it, listened to 3 other people talk about
how they did it.  It's time to get it done.  We bought a vibratory
plow, let's go.
-Finalized our ICA and which one to choose.  We've been a CLEC for a
while but have never used it.  This also goes up to the one above,
about getting fiber in the ground as we will also have to use some
poles and ROW.
-Gerard and I have this crazy plan on how to use AirFiber.  Gerard has
been wanting to do a variation of this since the day we started our
WISP but we've had to wait for the technology to catch up and be cheap
enough.  We plan to drop poles every 1-1.5 Miles ($800) if this works
out and build 700M/FD rings in our rural areas using AirFiber ($3000).
 Then at each 1-1.5 Miles add a few Nano AP's and accessories ($500)
that operate in the now available 5.4GHz band.  I figured it out that
I could upgrade almost all of my customers to a 50Mbit/s plan doing
this.  Only have 5-10 customers per AP.  Run them in low power.
-Use AirFiber to cross Railroad tracks when you are doing the fiber.
This then allows you to avoid the 12-24 month long process of being
able to tunnel under the railroad.
-Upgrade a huge portion of our network to WiMax.  Look at offering a
UBB based plan over the WiMax, and let it go as fast as it can.
-Get our Billing system working the way we need it to.
-Free Public WiFi Cooperative project with the city
-Get to DC to support WISPA!

Regards,
Chuck



On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
> Share the list...
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> 787.273.4143
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 9:18 PM
> To: but...@butchevans.com
> Cc: memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] THANKS!
>
> Well to be honest, this was one of those shows where it got me excited about 
> being in this business again.  I've had my head so deep in things for a while 
> that this show reinvigorated me.  I have a whole list of things to start 
> working on this week.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Butch Evans  wrote:
>> On Sun, 2012-04-01 at 20:27 -0400, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>>> + 1000.
>>
>> WOOHOO!!  High score!!
>>
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>> 
>>
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Re: [WISPA] THANKS!

[Chuck Hogg]

Well to be honest, this was one of those shows where it got me excited
about being in this business again.  I've had my head so deep in
things for a while that this show reinvigorated me.  I have a whole
list of things to start working on this week.

Regards,
Chuck



On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Butch Evans  wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-04-01 at 20:27 -0400, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>> + 1000.
>
> WOOHOO!!  High score!!
>
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Re: [WISPA] THANKS!

[Chuck Hogg]

+ 1000.

Regards,
Chuck



On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Butch Evans  wrote:
> ISPAmerica 2012 was a GREAT show!  There were a LOT of awesome speakers
> and sessions (thanks to Nathan).  This was a very well organized event
> overall (thanks to Rick and Trina).
>
> I would like to extend my thanks to those of you who visited the booth
> as well as those who attended the training.  It was amazing to get a
> chance to meet face to face so many new people as well as catch up with
> those old friends who were there.  I am grateful for the opportunity to
> serve this great group of people.
>
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Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

[Chuck Hogg]

At 1-1.5 miles you get full modulation or 1.4gbps.   At 13km you get
125x125 or 250 aggregate.

On Friday, March 23, 2012, Doug Clark  wrote:
>
> Does not matter.  There is no way on that you are going to defy the laws
of physics and have a solid link beyond
> 2 miles in desert regions and maybe a half a mile in tropical regions.
Will it link up over 8 miles.maybe,  But how much data will it pass?
>
>
>
> ---Original Message---
>
> From: Chuck Hogg
> Date: 3/23/2012 1:16:40 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics
>
> Larger receive antenna.
>
>

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Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

[Chuck Hogg]

Larger receive antenna.

On Friday, March 23, 2012, Zach Mann  wrote:
> I got the impression that 24Ghz was good out to 2 miles.  How are they
reaching 15km with airFiber?  Awesome stuff, and a great video.
http://www.ubnt.com/airfiber
>
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Josh Luthman <
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
> 2995 actually
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mar 23, 2012 12:17 PM, "Doug Clark"  wrote:
>
> 2999.00 per link!
>
>
>
>
> ---Original Message---
>
> From: Zach Mann
> Date: 3/23/2012 11:13:51 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics
>
>
> Price range ?  :)
>
> On Mar 23, 2012 12:06 PM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:
>
> 700 mbps fdx, 1.4 Gig Agg
>
>
>
> 24Ghz
>
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> g...@aeronetpr.com
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> 787.273.4143
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Zach Mann
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:04 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Cc: a...@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics
>
>
>
> Nice.  Gig speeds ?
>
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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

[Chuck Hogg]

I don't think you understand.  A GFCI outlet is a "mechanical" device.  You
can't reboot it.

Regards,
Chuck


On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Victoria Proffer <
victo...@stlbroadband.com> wrote:

> Can you set it on an auto-ping?
>
> ** **
>
> Victoria Proffer
>
> STLWiMAX, LLC 
>
> 314-974-5600
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Brian Webster [mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 9:02 AM
> *To:* victo...@stlbroadband.com; 'WISPA General List'
> *Subject:* RE: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
>
> ** **
>
> The remote reboot power strip does nothing for you if the GFCI outlet or
> breaker has tripped, that needs to be reset unless it’s an auto reset
> device.
>
> ** **
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Victoria Proffer
> *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 9:40 AM
> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
>
> ** **
>
> Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone?
>
> ** **
>
> i.e. 
>
> strip   pstn > my computer
>
> ** **
>
> Victoria Proffer
>
> STLWiMAX, LLC 
>
> 314-974-5600
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Ryan Ghering
> *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages
>
> ** **
>
> We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI
> outlets for my
> Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically
> after a few mins..
>
> Ryan
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes 
> wrote:
>
> You have to have GFCI outlets indoors?  I've never heard of that
> regulation before.
>
> A few thoughts come to mind:
>
> * Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page
> for a power outage.  Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it
> keeps you from having an outage.
>
> * Re-check code?  I don't understand why you need a GFCI outlet inside
> your shack.You don't have a sink or other water nearby.  I don't
> have GFCI outlets in my office.  Maybe I'm missing something here.
>
> If you are mounting an outdoor NEMA box with your equipment and just
> plugging into a GFCI then maybe you can figure out some way to get a
> hardwire into the box rather than plugging into an outside GFCI?
>
>
> On 3/16/12 9:04 AM, Troy Settle wrote:
> > Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers.
> > One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80
> > miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse).
> >
> > Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening
> > without violating code?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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Re: [WISPA] New Crown Castle Nightmare Developing

[Chuck Hogg]

I was told there would be a change at WISPALOOZA...after 6 weeks of
negotiations, we walked away.  A friend of mine decommissioned a Crown site
he was on.  They removed everything.  Some how a cable hanger was still
there.  Crown is fighting with them to get them to pay back rent for that
one cable hanger.  The claim was $14,000 in back rent and $4,000 to remove
the cable hanger.  Each month that $14k increases.

Regards,
Chuck


On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:05 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

> **
>
> Looked at a Crown tower today - and remembered the horror stories.
> Not interested unless there is a real change.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Ralph 
> *To:* 'WISPA General List' 
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2012 9:13 PM
> *Subject:* [WISPA] New Crown Castle Nightmare Developing
>
>  *I wish I could say nice things… I wish I could say nice things.  But
> Mama told me that if I can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.
> *
>
> *I have a pretty good Crown Castle horror story developing.  I will be
> glad to share the details if things do not get ironed out, and quickly.*
>
> * *
>
> *I will say that if you are considering it, do not get into a contract
> with them. They still think we are all Cell Carriers or Clearwire!*
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> *If the representative from the “Kinder, Gentler, WISPA member Crown
> Castle” happens to be listening, I think he needs to reply to me off list!
> *
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> *Ralph*
>
> *Brightlan.net *
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Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

[Chuck Hogg]

Oshatz.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Andy Trimmell wrote:

> Whose your rep? I’m dealing with McNamara. 
>
> ** **
>
> I forgot too the $2500 engineering study Im required to pay to add
> anything.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:22 PM
>
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
>
> ** **
>
> I added an antenna not too long ago, rent increased $100.
>
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> 
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Andy Trimmell 
> wrote:
>
> We’ve had nothing but issues with our rep. He wants to quadruple our rent
> every time we want to renegotiate equipment.
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:14 PM
>
>
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
>
>  
>
> Before and After.
>
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Andy Trimmell 
> wrote:
>
> Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant?
>
>  
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
>
>  
>
> I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them.  I think we are
> right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth for 2
> omnis and a backhaul.  I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's worth it.
> 
>
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein  wrote:
> 
>
> Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications?  Are they WISP
> friendly?  Any estimates on costs?
>
> --
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Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

[Chuck Hogg]

I added an antenna not too long ago, rent increased $100.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Andy Trimmell wrote:

> We’ve had nothing but issues with our rep. He wants to quadruple our rent
> every time we want to renegotiate equipment.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:14 PM
>
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
>
> ** **
>
> Before and After.
>
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> 
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Andy Trimmell 
> wrote:
>
> Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant?
>
>  
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
>
>  
>
> I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them.  I think we are
> right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth for 2
> omnis and a backhaul.  I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's worth it.
> 
>
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein  wrote:
> 
>
> Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications?  Are they WISP
> friendly?  Any estimates on costs?
>
> --
>    
> Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
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Re: [WISPA] ISP America

[Chuck Hogg]

Bass fishing is fun, I can do that around here though... Offshore fishing
is something I have not yet done.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Doug Clark  wrote:

> Chuck, go Bass fishing.  You will really like that!  We did that
> twice last time we were down there, it was a blast!
> I am not sure that Jim remembers it beings that he might have been in a
> state of oblivion.
>
>
>
>
>  *---Original Message---*
>
>  *From:* Chuck Hogg 
> *Date:* 2/28/2012 11:19:18 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] ISP America
>
> As in the 2 of us included or we're out?
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Jim Patient wrote:
>
> The seats are filled.  
>
> ** **
>
> Jim
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Jim Patient
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:01 AM
> *To:* wireless@wispa.org
> *Subject:* [WISPA] ISP America
>
> ** **
>
> We chartered an offshore fishing trip out of Cape Canaveral on Tuesday
> 3/27.  There are 2 open seats.  If you’re coming in early for the show and
> want to go fishing Tuesday, shoot me an email off-list.  
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Jim Patient
>
> Link Technologies, Inc.
>
> 314-735-0270 x102
>
> http://mywificoverage.com
>
> http://www.linktechs.net 
>
> 
>
> ** **
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> No virus found in this message.
>
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Re: [WISPA] ISP America

[Chuck Hogg]

As in the 2 of us included or we're out?

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Jim Patient  wrote:

> The seats are filled.  
>
> ** **
>
> Jim
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Jim Patient
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:01 AM
> *To:* wireless@wispa.org
> *Subject:* [WISPA] ISP America
>
> ** **
>
> We chartered an offshore fishing trip out of Cape Canaveral on Tuesday
> 3/27.  There are 2 open seats.  If you’re coming in early for the show and
> want to go fishing Tuesday, shoot me an email off-list.  
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Jim Patient
>
> Link Technologies, Inc.
>
> 314-735-0270 x102
>
> http://mywificoverage.com
>
> http://www.linktechs.net 
>
> 
>
> ** **
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>
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>
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Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

[Chuck Hogg]

Before and After.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote:

> Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant?
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
>
> ** **
>
> I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them.  I think we are
> right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth for 2
> omnis and a backhaul.  I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's worth it.
> 
>
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> 
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein  wrote:
> 
>
> Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications?  Are they WISP
> friendly?  Any estimates on costs?
>
> --
>    
> Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
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Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers

[Chuck Hogg]

I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them.  I think we are
right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth for 2
omnis and a backhaul.  I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's worth it.

Regards,
Chuck


On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein  wrote:

> Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications?  Are they WISP
> friendly?  Any estimates on costs?
>
> --
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Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE

[Chuck Hogg]

I think you are comparing apples to oranges IMO.

19dB Tranzeo vs 8dB Nano is not going to get the same performance.

Regards,
Chuck


On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> Was that an accurate guess, or do you not remember the Tranzeo stuff
> either?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:
> > I was thinking the same thing...
> >
> > Regards,
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Interesting.  Was the 19 in the model a 19dbi?  So you went from an
> >> 8dbi Ubiquiti to 19dbi Tranzeo?
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Steve Barnes 
> wrote:
> >> >>Have you had any situation where a Tranzeo worked at a customer site
> and
> >> >> Ubiquiti didn't?
> >> >
> >> > Having that right now. MT RB411 AP with XR2.  UBNT Nanstation M2
> >> > Connection rate all over the place and on a video stream drops clear
> down to
> >> > 3.3M with 45% CCQ.  Throw a OLD Tranzeo CPG-19 at the site and get a
> solid
> >> > 48 MB 90% CCQ.  I have seen this on this sector mostly and it was all
> >> > replaced in DEC due to ICE getting in the RB case.  May Climb in a
> week or
> >> > two and Change to a Rocket with a new 120* sector.
> >> >
> >> > But you asked Josh.  Yep I have had it.
> >> >
> >> > Steve Barnes
> >> > General Manager
> >> > PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On
> >> > Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> >> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:53 AM
> >> > To: WISPA General List
> >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE
> >> >
> >> >>Might have to start drinking the ubiquity koolaid.  I've just not had
> >> >>good luck with the ones I've tried out here.
> >> >
> >> > Have you had any situation where a Tranzeo worked at a customer site
> and
> >> > Ubiquiti didn't?
> >> >
> >> > I replaced my Tranzeo stuff with Mikrotik way back before Ubiquiti had
> >> > their stuff.  I doubt I will ever use a Tranzeo radio again.
> >> >
> >> > Josh Luthman
> >> > Office: 937-552-2340
> >> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> > 1100 Wayne St
> >> > Suite 1337
> >> > Troy, OH 45373
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
> >> >  wrote:
> >> >> I can't help with the Ubiquity issue, but your CPE situation is the
> >> >> same as ours.  I know Mikrotik works well with them.
> >> >>
> >> >> Once you get something working well you'll love the new AP's!
> >> >>
> >> >> I do wish Tranzeo would fix the danged lockup issues on the cpe's
> >> >> though.
> >> >> Some people never have trouble, others do weekly.  ug
> >> >>
> >> >> Might have to start drinking the ubiquity koolaid.  I've just not had
> >> >> good luck with the ones I've tried out here.
> >> >> marlon
> >> >>
> >> >> - Original Message -
> >> >> From: "Matt Hoppes" 
> >> >> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> >> >> Cc: ; 
> >> >> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 4:06 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> Did you install the RF Armor shield kits?  They are an incredible
> >> >>> help at defeating noise.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 14:47, Jay DeBoer 
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> I am in process of converting a tow

Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE

[Chuck Hogg]

I was thinking the same thing...

Regards,
Chuck


On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> Interesting.  Was the 19 in the model a 19dbi?  So you went from an
> 8dbi Ubiquiti to 19dbi Tranzeo?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
> >>Have you had any situation where a Tranzeo worked at a customer site and
> Ubiquiti didn't?
> >
> > Having that right now. MT RB411 AP with XR2.  UBNT Nanstation M2
> Connection rate all over the place and on a video stream drops clear down
> to 3.3M with 45% CCQ.  Throw a OLD Tranzeo CPG-19 at the site and get a
> solid 48 MB 90% CCQ.  I have seen this on this sector mostly and it was all
> replaced in DEC due to ICE getting in the RB case.  May Climb in a week or
> two and Change to a Rocket with a new 120* sector.
> >
> > But you asked Josh.  Yep I have had it.
> >
> > Steve Barnes
> > General Manager
> > PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:53 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE
> >
> >>Might have to start drinking the ubiquity koolaid.  I've just not had
> >>good luck with the ones I've tried out here.
> >
> > Have you had any situation where a Tranzeo worked at a customer site and
> Ubiquiti didn't?
> >
> > I replaced my Tranzeo stuff with Mikrotik way back before Ubiquiti had
> their stuff.  I doubt I will ever use a Tranzeo radio again.
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) <
> o...@odessaoffice.com> wrote:
> >> I can't help with the Ubiquity issue, but your CPE situation is the
> >> same as ours.  I know Mikrotik works well with them.
> >>
> >> Once you get something working well you'll love the new AP's!
> >>
> >> I do wish Tranzeo would fix the danged lockup issues on the cpe's
> though.
> >> Some people never have trouble, others do weekly.  ug
> >>
> >> Might have to start drinking the ubiquity koolaid.  I've just not had
> >> good luck with the ones I've tried out here.
> >> marlon
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Matt Hoppes" 
> >> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> >> Cc: ; 
> >> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 4:06 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE
> >>
> >>
> >>> Did you install the RF Armor shield kits?  They are an incredible
> >>> help at defeating noise.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 14:47, Jay DeBoer 
> wrote:
> >>>
>  I am in process of converting a tower from Tranzeo AP's to Ubquity
>  Rocket M2's.  I have the M2's hung and pointed.  I can get the
>  clients to connect but I seem to be getting half throughput at best.
> 
>  I have the Airmax disabled on the M2's and the Clients have been
>  running in 802.11b mode previously.
> 
>  The clients are a mix of Tranzeo CPQ and SL2 radios.  Signal levels
>  appear to be a bout the same if not a little better.  My noise floor
>  has seem to come up from around -100 to -95/90ish.
> 
>  At this point I'm a little lost / too frustrated to think straight.
>  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> 
>  Thank you.
> 
>  --
>  Jay DeBoer
> 
>  Chief Engineer
>  Summit Digital Holdings, Inc.
>  100 N Roland St, Suite B
>  McBain, MI 49657
> 
>  Office: 231-825-2500
>  Direct: 231-908-0033
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>  jdeb...@summitdigital.us
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Re: [WISPA] small project in Aspen CO

[Chuck Hogg]

Isn't Daniel White looking for work to do in that area or thereabouts?

Regards,
Chuck


On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Freylekhman, Alex <
afreylekh...@axxcelera.com> wrote:

> I'm looking for a VAR in Aspen CO area for a small but challenging
> wireless project that I could point an enduser to. Can you please ping me
> if interested
>
> thanks
> Alex
>
>
>
>
> Aleksander Freylekhman
> Sales Director North America
> Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
> a Moseley Company
>  P: (804) 864-4125
>  M: (440) 220-2192
> afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
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Re: [WISPA] Ping

[Chuck Hogg]

yes?

Regards,
Chuck


On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Victoria Proffer  wrote:

> Is this making it to the list?
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,
>
> Victoria Proffer
>
> St. Louis Broadband, LLC 
>
> 314-974-5600
>
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Re: [WISPA] No mail

[Chuck Hogg]

We got this one?
Regards,
Chuck


On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Tim Kerns  wrote:

>   Rick,
>
>  I have not received mail for any wispa accounts in two or more days.
>
>
> Come to think of it I didn’t receive the usual “you are subscribed to”
> messages either.
>
> Tim Kerns
> CV-Access, Inc.
>
>
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