Re: [WISPA] Meanwell DIn rail power supplies

2016-07-14 Thread Randy Cosby
Exactly, that's what we do.  The Meanwell UPS does not have low-voltage
disconnect.  

 

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Meanwell DIn rail power supplies

 

Usually UPS have a voltage that they shut down the power and doesn't let the
batteries go to 0Volts and collapse the batteries.

 

If you use a Netonix to power your stuff then you can set it to shut down at
a voltage.

 

Steve Barnes

Wireless Operations Manager

PCSWIN.COM

NLBC.COM

 

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Meanwell DIn rail power supplies

 

Can someone comment on what value there is in the UPS module, vs just using
the charger and running the load off the batteries? 

 

I can see value in the relay contacts for battery status, but if those are
not being monitored, what else is that unit good for?  There is no LVD, no
temperature compensation, no charge voltage regulation, and no real way to
monitor the DC power supply (Is it even on) built into the unit.   There are
more expensive units out there with much of this functionality.In our
case we run without the UPS and monitor the power separately.  Maybe I'm
missing something?

 

Example of more $$: 

https://www.winncom.com/vi/products/DIN-UPS-24-10

https://www.asi-ez.com/member/~ASIDCU20.asp

 

 

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Meanwell DIn rail power supplies

 

DR-xxx-24 is not just a charger, it is a full power supply.  We used them
with and without the DR-UPS40.

SD and RSD have smaller footprint.

 

 

On 7/14/2016 10:01 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:

Fully din rail is a 2 part unit.

DR-120-24 as battery charger and DR-UPS40 is the UPS

 

In non-DIN there is the AD-155B and if you find the right clips you can
mount that to a DIN rail but its pretty large.

 

 

Steve Barnes

Wireless Operations Manager

PCSWIN.COM

NLBC.COM

 

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SD works for me but people have said RSD is better.

Josh Luthman
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On Jul 14, 2016 2:20 AM, <mike.l...@gmail.com <mailto:mike.l...@gmail.com> >
wrote:

I know this has been covered a bazillion times but i couldn't find the
threads.

I don't need UPS capability. Was there a specific Meanwell line to watch out
for?

Thank You,
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Re: [WISPA] Meanwell DIn rail power supplies

2016-07-14 Thread Randy Cosby
Can someone comment on what value there is in the UPS module, vs just using
the charger and running the load off the batteries? 

 

I can see value in the relay contacts for battery status, but if those are
not being monitored, what else is that unit good for?  There is no LVD, no
temperature compensation, no charge voltage regulation, and no real way to
monitor the DC power supply (Is it even on) built into the unit.   There are
more expensive units out there with much of this functionality.In our
case we run without the UPS and monitor the power separately.  Maybe I'm
missing something?

 

Example of more $$: 

https://www.winncom.com/vi/products/DIN-UPS-24-10

https://www.asi-ez.com/member/~ASIDCU20.asp

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:08 AM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Meanwell DIn rail power supplies

 

DR-xxx-24 is not just a charger, it is a full power supply.  We used them
with and without the DR-UPS40.

SD and RSD have smaller footprint.

 

 

On 7/14/2016 10:01 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:

Fully din rail is a 2 part unit.

DR-120-24 as battery charger and DR-UPS40 is the UPS

 

In non-DIN there is the AD-155B and if you find the right clips you can
mount that to a DIN rail but its pretty large.

 

 

Steve Barnes

Wireless Operations Manager

PCSWIN.COM

NLBC.COM

 

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To: WISPA General List   
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Meanwell DIn rail power supplies

 

SD works for me but people have said RSD is better.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Jul 14, 2016 2:20 AM,  >
wrote:

I know this has been covered a bazillion times but i couldn't find the
threads.

I don't need UPS capability. Was there a specific Meanwell line to watch out
for?

Thank You,
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Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project

2014-12-03 Thread Randy Cosby
Would it pay to see if UBNT would allow us to continue to use some of 
the provisioning mechanisms built into the radios for aircontrol?  It's 
nice to have subscriber units phone home.



On 12/3/2014 12:39 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:

I was wondering if that might come about. Maybe another wisp that uses
their own software might offer something.

Mike Hammett wrote:

Further driven by today's post that summed up says, We don't care
what you want. This is what you get.



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*Subject: *[WISPA] groundcontrol project

For those of you who haven't heard, several of us started a new
project yesterday.

https://github.com/esseph/groundcontrol

Licensing is tentatively set as falling under GPLv2.

We have already been offered code snippets, a dev box, a db server,
and several people have decided to volunteer time to make this happen.

The initial idea is that the system itself will be free, with a
possibly paid support/features option, or maybe a model similar to
observium where the is a community (free as in beer) version that
comes out every 6mo or so, and a paid version with newer features
and direct support. We're not sure yet, but we want to make this
project accessible and fairly vendor-neutral.

If any of you could volunteer time, support, code, documentation,
ideas, etc.it would be greatly appreciated. This is a project by and
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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

2014-08-28 Thread Randy Cosby
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on
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 That's a great point. Thank you Andy. How about differences in
 performance between the two? Big difference? Negligible?

 Thanks
 Sam



 On 8/28/2014 09:18, Andy Trimmell wrote:
 I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover
 for the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're
 using stock Rockets with stock UBNT antennas.

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 I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP
Performance
 antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their
 experiences of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically
 looking at 13 dBi omni antennas, but am curious about how the
sector
 antennas compare as well.

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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

2014-08-28 Thread Randy Cosby
Unfortunately the manufacturer who seems to miss crucial parts or ship 
me the wrong units (if they ship to the correct location) on a 
consistent basis is frequently late as well. So I stick tend to stick 
with UBNT for UBNT applications.



On 8/28/2014 2:33 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

That is of course assuming that you don't get it the day you need it.  ;-)



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Just open up all boxes and check all your parts before you go out. 
Nuts. Brackets. Cables.


I've never had a problem with missing parts on UBNT sectors.

On 8/28/2014 2:07 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

Not only should you have spares, you should also make sure you
have the right parts before you go to the job...

even if you do have the right parts, it's still a nuisance to deal
with getting sent the wrong stuff... it can happen with anything
though - for instance, I once got sent a 5ghz UBNT omni instead of
2.4ghz... I'm pretty sure I would've been better off with the
wrong pigtails ;-)


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If you get out to the job and don't have the right pigtail because
the vendor didn't ship the right one, it's not the vendors fault. 
You should have several spares of every flavor in your truck.  If

not, it's a safe bet Murphy will show up throwing his laws around :-)

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Which is a problem when they ship you N male to N male by
mistake... =P



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On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Matt Brendle
mattagator.mailingli...@gmail.com
mailto:mattagator.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:

KPP if for nothing else it comes with better jumpers.  KPP has N
connectors on antenna and jumper to match up to RP-SMA on Rocket. 
YMMV


-Matt

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Same radios but I had the opposite experience.  I had one at -35,
maybe the RF armor requires both of those dumb machine screws to work.



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On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Greg Osborn
gregwosb...@gmail.com mailto:gregwosb...@gmail.com wrote:

UBNT to KPP straight up, kpp.  UBNT with armor vs KPP, we
prefer UBNT
because of the extra horizontal separation required with KPP.
On a grainleg
platform, we've seen kpp sectors see one another at -30 or
below, where UBNT
see one another in the -50's. On a tower without standoffs and
KPP, forget
it, you will have problems.

2.4 in 10mhz cw.


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Subject: Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas

one obvious advantage with the KPP is that the connectors or
all covered by
the shielding, so you eliminate any potential issues with
water in the
connectors, and you can throw away that annoying cover on the
Rocket over
the ethernet port.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site

2014-07-02 Thread Randy Cosby
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Re: [WISPA] Serious rain out here

2014-05-21 Thread Randy Cosby
Last time I came out to Denver most of the rental cars had been damaged 
by hail so there were hours-long lines to get one of the remaining 
undamaged cars.  Hope that's not the case when I come out next month.



On 5/21/2014 3:44 PM, Daniel White wrote:


Check this out:

https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84/status/469212469563383809

Just found out another tornado touched down closer to a ¼ mile away 
from us.  No major damage reports I have heard of yet.


http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/tornado-touches-down-in-denver-at-tower-smith-roads-sirens-heard-around-metro-area05212014

Had some flooding in the warehouse -- thank god everything is on 
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Within minutes my front and back yard are flooded.  I had a 5 GHz 5 
mile link lose 5 db (typing that made me realize how cool it was).


Those of you to the east/south watch out.  Just a bit of lightning, 
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Re: [WISPA] Project and Schedule Management

2014-05-05 Thread Randy Cosby
We've started using Asana and have been pretty happy with it.  Can't 
compare it to anything else though.



On 4/30/2014 3:47 PM, Clay Stewart wrote:

Want do do nitty gritty details, MS Project.




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Hi folks,

What kind of site or software you use to control the agenda of
customers installations and projects to install new POPs (example:
a new tower, involves the erection of the tower, electrical,
installation and configuration of radios, switches..)

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Re: [WISPA] VoIP reselling.

2014-03-26 Thread Randy Cosby
Doesn't sound right to me, unless they are going to do all the billing 
and tax filing in your behalf.


If they charge you USF on your wholesale rate, who pays on the 
difference between your wholesale rate and the customer's marked up rate?


On 3/26/2014 10:51 AM, Roger Howard wrote:
So I've been using Vitelity for a while in the office here, with 
freeswitch, and it works great.


I was considering reselling the vitelity service to my customers, the 
only thing that has held me back is the legal requirements. I thought 
I had to collect USF fees, register with the FCC, pay it to them. 
Maybe sales tax. etc.


I was at wispamerica yesterday and talked to a fellow at the Vitelity 
booth. He told me that they collect the USF, so we don't have to, the 
e-911 is optional, all I have to do is sign up as a reseller to get 
better pricing and charge what I like to the customers.


Is this correct? I've learned to never trust a salesman. Something 
doesn't sound right, surely it can't be that easy?


Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP

2014-03-19 Thread Randy Cosby
Is anyone actually buying right now?  I haven't heard much about the big 
buyer (Jab) lately.



On 3/19/2014 9:49 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
The going rate, we've seen (and has been discussed here many times), 
is about 1.5x annual revenue


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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP

We priced ours at 2.5x gross revenue. We had about 10 companies
contact us.
I would say 5 were serious but they wanted us to finance it so we
decided
not to sell.

Thanks,

Kevin Melson
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1505 Hwy 72 E
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What is the current rate for selling your ISP! I would like to
sell, for
health reasons.
Thanks for your help!
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[WISPA] 4-pair Cat6 cable?

2014-01-27 Thread Randy Cosby
Does anyone know of any cat-6 cable with more than 4 pairs?  Maybe 
24-pair?   Outdoor would be ideal but not required.

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Re: [WISPA] High winds destroy wind turbine blades

2013-10-30 Thread Randy Cosby
http://msnvideo.msn.com/?channelindex=4from=en-us_msnhpvidmod#/video/65831814-e025-4967-9dc5-8bb037d18050 



Wow...

On 10/28/2013 1:13 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
We had one that was supposed to turn on the brakes as well, and it 
didn't fare so well either.


Regards,
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The turbine has automatic braking - but it's not enough...


On 10/28/2013 1:08 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

Just when you want to be able to turn on the breaks!

Regards,
Chuck


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If they are boomerang blades, they will be back in a while.


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Matt Hoppes
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Well, if you wouldn't put boomerang blades on it it might
have lasted longer. :P

Yikes!

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 Nasty wind storms moving through Utah.  This site can
get over 100MPH
 but our trusty AirBreeze as survived over 3 years.  Not
today.  Caught
 the destruction on our airCam this morning.

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[WISPA] High winds destroy wind turbine blades

2013-10-28 Thread Randy Cosby
Nasty wind storms moving through Utah.  This site can get over 100MPH 
but our trusty AirBreeze as survived over 3 years.  Not today.  Caught 
the destruction on our airCam this morning.

http://youtu.be/4KvxGpwBj1w

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Re: [WISPA] High winds destroy wind turbine blades

2013-10-28 Thread Randy Cosby

The turbine has automatic braking - but it's not enough...

On 10/28/2013 1:08 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

Just when you want to be able to turn on the breaks!

Regards,
Chuck


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mailto:cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com wrote:


If they are boomerang blades, they will be back in a while.


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Well, if you wouldn't put boomerang blades on it it might have
lasted longer. :P

Yikes!

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mailto:dco...@infowest.com wrote:

 Nasty wind storms moving through Utah.  This site can get
over 100MPH
 but our trusty AirBreeze as survived over 3 years.  Not
today.  Caught
 the destruction on our airCam this morning.

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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?

2013-10-15 Thread Randy Cosby
Are these PTP, or connected to one particular AP?  What type of AP?


On 10/15/2013 11:54 AM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote:
 dear all

 lately we are having some strange issues with some airgrids. We see that:

 1) the signal on some radios is droppiing around 10dbi
 2) it works in one direction but not the other (eg. tx=ok but rx not
 working)

 Is that happening to you too?

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Re: [WISPA] ToughSwitch Question

2013-09-24 Thread Randy Cosby

  
  
Better also plan on how many ports will have POE turned on -- even
if you don't have load on them yet to measure against. Turning the
relays "on" takes more power.


On 9/24/2013 1:32 PM, ~NGL~ wrote:


  
  
  Thanx, I really need to know.
  NGL
  

  From: Josh Luthman
  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 11:06 AM
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  Subject: Re: [WISPA] ToughSwitch Question



If you can't get the answer let me know, I have
  an amp meter and a NIB ToughSwitch.

  
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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  On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Clay
Stewart cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com
wrote:

  DO not know off hand, but what I do is use
an APC UPS unit with LED power wattage info, plug in the
item I want to know the true wattage and these guys will
give it too you. More accurate then a spec sheet ;')
  


  
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 12:18 PM,
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  wrote:

  
  

  

  Anyone know the wattagea ToughSwitch5
port uses when powered directly by a 24 volt
battery system. I need to be sure I have
enoughsolar to keep tha system up
  Thanx
  
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Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

2013-09-17 Thread Randy Cosby
I'll have to agree with Josh.  We like the Pro for residential 
installs.   Nice box / spool, reasonable diameter and flexibility. The 
box is a bit heavy - a 500' box might be easier for installers to work 
with.  The Carrier version is overkill with two shields.  We like 
shireen as well, but like the UBNT more.


In no way does it resemble the old toughcable that turned into green 
gooey flakes after being in the sun  a few days.



On 9/17/2013 10:05 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I've been using the (new) ToughCable.  The shielding is great and the 
plastic seems to actually work!  The box, believe it or not, is 
actually a box now!!!



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On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Heith Petersen 
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Probably beating a dead horse here. We are definitely looking at
using more or all shielded cable at residential installs.
Currently we are hooked on the tower cable that we use, but was
curious as to what others were using for something easier to work with
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Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

2013-09-17 Thread Randy Cosby
If you were using level 1 or level 2 toughcable, that's an old, 
discontinued product and is completely different than the pro or 
carrier versions.



On 9/17/2013 1:23 PM, heith petersen wrote:
I have to catch up on this stuff. We have been cussing the tough cable 
for months but now the newer stuff is a go? Don't know if I could sell 
our partner on that. He cringes every time a piece of UBNT leaves the 
office for an install out in the field

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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation
Ditto on UBNT Cable... new cable is dong well (PRO). Carrier is very 
good and we are STILL replacing some older cable. An issue with the 
Carrier is in using UBNT connectors is hard to do... we criomp down on 
a 1/4 second shield as the cable is too thick at the outer jacket.



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mailto:dco...@infowest.com wrote:


I'll have to agree with Josh.  We like the Pro for residential
installs.   Nice box / spool, reasonable diameter and
flexibility.  The box is a bit heavy - a 500' box might be easier
for installers to work with. The Carrier version is overkill with
two shields. We like shireen as well, but like the UBNT more.

In no way does it resemble the old toughcable that turned into
green gooey flakes after being in the sun  a few days.


On 9/17/2013 10:05 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

I've been using the (new) ToughCable.  The shielding is great and
the plastic seems to actually work!  The box, believe it or not,
is actually a box now!!!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


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Probably beating a dead horse here. We are definitely looking
at using more or all shielded cable at residential installs.
Currently we are hooked on the tower cable that we use, but
was curious as to what others were using for something easier
to work with
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Re: [WISPA] VoIP Taxes, Fees, Insanity

2013-07-30 Thread Randy Cosby
 

There is another issue I've found when dealing with the taxes and fees
that I think gets overlooked. If you are charging your federal portion
(USF) at 64.9% safe harbor for interstate, I have been told that the
intrastate portion (state, county, regional) taxes should be charged on
on the intrastate portion of revvenue- 35.1%. Talk to a competent
telecom taxing consultant / lawyer for advice on that. 

I have to agree that Utah is extra special in the way they have us file
and charge the telecom taxes, and if done correctly there can be
different rates in different municipalities. The tax follows the
customer location, not your office location. 

If you think that is fun, wait until you file and have to not only track
each of those municipalities by state-assigned municipality id code, but
ALSO by your outlet code that is assigned separately for each
municipality to each tax paying entity. TC-62M worksheet A. Oh, and the
handy excel spreadsheet the state gives you to file this mess is broken
and has been for at least 2 quarters. Unless you do it by hand, the
online form is the only way I've seen to get them all the information
they require. 

Good luck! 

On 2013-07-28 16:03, Carlos Alcantar wrote: 

 I would highly suggest you go talk to a telecom tax lawyer. Taxes on voice 
 are all over the place and in most cases it's up into interpretation, and 
 this is where things can go really bad if you think it's one way and they 
 think it's the other. Just my 2 cents. 
 
 Carlos Alcantar 
 Race Communications / Race Team Member 
 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010 
 Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com 
 
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 Date: Saturday, July 27, 2013 9:20 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] VoIP Taxes, Fees,  Insanity 
 
 I am attempting to figure out all of the taxes for VoiP and the main thing 
 that has me confused is the Universal Service Fund. It seems that my state 
 (Utah) has a USF of 0.45% 
 http://www.psc.state.ut.us/utilities/telecom/documents/Rule%20746-360%20amendment.rtf
  [2]
 
 Then it also seems like the Feds want 15.1%?? That is huge! 
 http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/contribution-factor-quarterly-filings-universal-service-fund-usf-management-support
  [3]
 
 Then there is sales and use tax of 
 
 STATE SALES  USE - 4.7% MUNICIPALITY SALES  USE - varies - see 
 http://tax.utah.gov/salestax/rate/13q3combined.pdf [4]
 
 Then we have E911:
 
 E911 STATE - .08
 
 E911 COUNTY - .61 
 POISON CONTROL - .07
 --- TOTAL FOR E911 - .76
 
 Then, since October 2011 we are also liable for the TELECOMMUNICATIONS RELAY 
 FUND - .06
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[WISPA] FS: Trango SU and AP's

2013-06-21 Thread Randy Cosby
Bunches of 'em, located in Southern Utah.  Working pulls.  Make an offer 
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[WISPA] OT: VoIP Taxes and Fees

2012-08-10 Thread Randy Cosby
Just had a question pop into my head last night after a long day of 
working on VoIP tax and fee paperwork.

How does Google Voice not have to charge such fees as USF, telcom 
recovery, etc?  Aren't they providing telephone lines just like we 
are, even if they may terminate in a different device (a PC or a cell 
phone) than us (an ATA or handset)?  Does Skype charge those fees?


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Re: [WISPA] USF/CAF

2012-05-29 Thread Randy Cosby
Facilities Based excludes all fixed wireless, is that correct?

Would VoIP - properly reported, taxed, etc. - qualify as voice?

Randy

On 5/29/2012 10:40 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote:
 Right.

 And that's why we still have to fight they current rules as proposed.

 We've made the statement that if any company offers un subsidized service
 then no one should get a tax payer funded leg up in the market.

 Under the current rules a SINGLE company has to provide both *facilities
 based *voice and broadband without subsidies before the faucet is shut off
 to the USF/CAF recipient.

 We're in the bottom of the 9th inning and we're down by a couple of runs, 2
 out full count and Casey is at bat.

 Are we going to swing at the ball or just stand there and watch it fly by?

 marlon


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 At 5/25/2012 01:03 PM, Matt wrote:
 Perhaps anyone accepting money from these funds should be required to
 wholesale there services at a discount such as dry loop dsl?  They
 should also not be allowed to price under cut wholesalers for that to
 work?
 In fact, that *was* the rule.  Or at least they had to wholesale the
 DSL, even if it was bundled with cheap POTS.  When the FCC detariffed
 DSL in 2005, it was permissive, so the Bells could detariff while the
 subsidized rural ILECs stayed on tariff in order to maximize their USF.

 The new Connect America Fund rules make one major change -- they
 allow the ILEC to detariff DSL, offer it only as a retail information
 service, and still get subsidized.  That's how they want to improve
 broadband availability.  Gee, do you think any telco lobbyists were
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Re: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name....

2012-05-10 Thread Randy Cosby

WNS?

WNSNet?

Anything more creative would deplete needed brain cells.


On 5/10/2012 10:19 AM, Zach Mann wrote:

Brainstorm time,

Do any of you have suggestions for a company name, obviously involving 
wireless, networks, surveillance etc ?  Trying to come up with a good 
name.  Open to any suggestions.


Thanks in advance

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Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers

2012-04-26 Thread Randy Cosby

Where are you getting 751's now? They seem pretty rare in the wild.

Randy

On 4/26/2012 4:27 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:

My Take on routers.

Off the shelf routers are the #1 trouble issue on the Zig network. 
 Anything from gaming issues, to speed issues, to reliability issues. 
They account for roughly 92% of all calls.  The first thing we have 
the customer do after reboots of everything is bypass the router. Most 
of the time this shows the customer it's their router, or something 
behind it.


In our past life we started out selling routers. We looked for the 
cheapest ones we could find, which at the time were dlink. What we 
found was customers then considered that our equipment. Well the 
router you sold me went out. was something we heard a lot. Or I 
reset the router now you have to come out and configure it


What we are doing this time around is we have only one officially 
approved router. The Mikrotik 751. We have a local computer shop which 
stocks them and sets them up.  What he does as far as support is 
between him and the customer. I am pretty sure he tells them he is 
just a retailer for the product and if they want his help he will 
gladly charge them his hourly rate. All about expectations up front.


By doing all of this we are not in the router business, but the 
customer gets a solid product and cuts down on our calls. In turn we 
have a happier customer base. And if need be, we can actually login to 
their router and do torch, etc.


Justin

From: Darin Steffl dcsho...@gmail.com mailto:dcsho...@gmail.com
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Subject: [WISPA] Customer Routers

Hey guys,

What are some of you providing for customer wireless routers if
you include them in the install as I do?  I currently have a batch
of 10 Ubiquiti Air Routers and the first two I pulled out are
giving me some problems.  Could be a bad batch.

I am also looking at TP-Link as they are about $30 on Amazon with
external antennas and pretty good reviews.

TP-Link TL-WR841N

What are you guys using?

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Re: [WISPA] Looking for Site to Sell

2012-03-15 Thread Randy Cosby
I've tried wispswap.com in the past with a little success.

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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear

2012-02-27 Thread Randy Cosby
Don't bother..  It's old discontinued equipment.



On 2/27/2012 11:45 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Old stuff is grandfathered in.  Not sure about DFS versus DFS2.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net  wrote:
 The Trango site says For export only. Not for U.S.A. on the 5.3
 gear. This would indicate it has DFS but not DFS2. Am I looking at the
 wrong product?

 http://www.trangobroadband.com/wireless-products/multipoint-broadband-access/Access5830-System.aspx


 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com  wrote:
 Trango 5830

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 Suite 1337
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 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net  
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 Is there anything out there that is DFS2 certified for PtMP ? I know
 of Canopy and (someday) Ubnt. Everything else
 I know if is hi-cap PtP but all my links are to long for those.

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Re: [WISPA] Ericsson is buying BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi

2012-01-31 Thread Randy Cosby
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Re: [WISPA] wall plate style AP

2011-11-07 Thread Randy Cosby
Panoptic has a series of jacks with options for 100 / 1000 / ABG / N / 
POE passthrough / Unpowered to choose from.  Only one switch port on the 
front though.  Could be inconvenient if you need an RJ11 port as well.  
~$149/ea.

On 11/7/2011 8:35 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote:
 Not heard of those.

 I have heard of this one though.
 http://www.teletronics.com/hotspot.html

 Never used it but Teletronics has been around this industry for a VERY long
 time.

 marlon

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 Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 11:28 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] wall plate style AP


 Has anyone used or deployed these style access points?

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izV6UnNSEyU

 And are there any other brands that do this sort of thing?  I would
 imagine that there has to be cheaper versions out there


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Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

2011-08-02 Thread Randy Cosby
I think you just jinxed that link!

On 8/2/2011 2:32 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
 I have had a 3 mile 24ghz Ligowave link up for two years with very
 little rain fade - maybe 15 minutes worth in the past two years.

 Matt Larsen
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 boundary=_000_D26588DB857E2948835D6C7A27C9879E15DBBD68AEROMAIL1aerone_

 Both Radwin and Motorola PTP500 would work well under high
 interference, but if you want to go to a whole diff band, I would
 suggest against a 3 mile 24 ghz link, go with a Radwin 2000 in 3.65
 Ghz .  Its FCC certified for up to 20 mhz, providing a solid 100
 mbps aggregate data rate for well under $7k

 If Adam's where I think he is, he is in the exclusion zone of two or
 three of those pesky earth stations.  3.65 is unavailable in much of
 the country, unless he can wangle the waiver.

 A lot of people use 18-23 GHz links of that distance.  The 24 GHz
 unlicensed power limit may be a bit low though.  A licensed Ka-band
 radio should be fine for 3 miles, unless it is non-diversity mission
 critical.  Someone I work with manages a public safety microwave
 network around here.  His 18 GHz and 5 GHz links are both impacted by
 weather, but not the same weather, so the network overall stays up
 even as links fade.


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Re: [WISPA] UBNT hotspot controller

2011-06-17 Thread Randy Cosby





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Re: [WISPA] UBNT hotspot controller

2011-06-17 Thread Randy Cosby
The POE stuff is not available yet, but was announced.  The model they 
announced earlier this year is the RB-750UP


http://www.3dbwireless.com/boyd/?p=479

-   Same form factor as regular RB750
+  USB port
+  24V Power Output on four ports
* Controllable PoE out
* SNMP support
* Voltage and current monitors
+  Can power PoE capable devices
+  Less cables and PoE injectors
-   Available in May June


On 6/14/2011 11:24 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:


Check their site. I think they just came out with some PoE stuff.

Otherwise the RB750 is enough to handle many many sessions.

There are plenty of How To's on VPN server/client.

- Jerry

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*On Behalf Of *Patrick Shoemaker

*Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:14 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT hotspot controller

That could work. I like that idea. I'm a Mikrotik novice, what sort of 
hardware should I be using? Anything with PoE injector built in to 
power the UniFi APs?


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*On Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson

*Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 12:46
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Why not use MT Routers to PPTP tunnel the remote networks back to your 
NOC with one one server managing/monitoring all the networks?


Less costly and you get the benefit of a single server to view all the 
networks and a MT on site for diagnostics and bandwidth management.


- Jerry

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Is anyone using Ubiquiti's UniFi APs and running the controller 
software on a device other than a normal PC server?


I'd like to deploy these things at some remote locations (free public 
WiFi hotspots) and am looking for a single board computer or something 
like a SheevaPlug that will run the controller software and is small, 
inexpensive, and doesn't consume much power.


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Re: [WISPA] MT SXT's

2011-03-30 Thread Randy Cosby
Anyone tried these with a dish yet?


On 3/30/2011 3:18 PM, Kevin Owen wrote:
 Excellent,  that is great to hear.  I take it that you aren't doing anything 
 other than closing the door and keeping the cable routed down.  No additional 
 weather proofing of the door?  We are in a definite snow and rain zone so 
 just a bit concerned.  We are going to hang a couple later this week and just 
 wanted to hear from others.  I appreciate it.

 FCC cert = TV7SXT-5d

 Kevin

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 Do they have a FCC Cert?

 On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Dennis Burgessdmburg...@linktechs.net  
 wrote:
 We have had them up for quite some time, no issues yet.  Great performance.
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 We just received our first shipment of the SXT's.  While they are certainly
 very interesting, I am concerned about the ability to weatherproof the
 little door on the bottom.



 Have I missed a previous discussion about these units and the
 weatherproofing of them?



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[WISPA] FS: TrangoLINK 45 (5.3, 5.4 and 5.8 LEGAL), Tranzeo Wimax Starter Kit

2011-03-04 Thread Randy Cosby

The Tranzeo 3.65 GHz WiMAX Starter Kit includes:

 * 1 - TR-WMX-365-pBS - The pico base station
 * 1 - 17dBi 24 degree panel antenna - The sector antenna for this 
set
 * 2 - TR-WMX-3-17 - Two CPE's
 * 1 - 3FT LMR cable - Cable for the base station
 * All power supplies and POE injectors

Normally $2300.  These are currently on promotional pricing for $1700.  
Great way to check out Wimax and see if it will work for you.

$800 OBO.  Paypal preferred.

I took it out of the box and did some tests in the lab, but decided to 
go another direction.  The kit is like new other than a few fingerprints!
I will also assist in registering for a base station location with the 
FCC, as I did that successfully, but never did install it.


I also have a pair of TrangoLink 45 backhaul radios for sale.

These are the external antenna model with dual external connectors 
(P-5055M-EXT-US)

These are the current models, not the older 5010M you see on Ebay from 
time to time.  Current WISP selling price from Trango for this radio 
model is $1750/pair.

TrangoLINK 45 is one of the few radios available that are FCC CERTIFIED 
FOR 5.3 and 5.4 with approved DFS and ATPC functionality.  Of course 
they also work in 5.8 frequencies at full power.   Both are used recent 
pulls, in working condition.

Asking $650 for a pair.

Email me off-list to make an offer.  Paypal preferred.

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Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

2011-03-02 Thread Randy Cosby
I don't reccomend that!  Of the 3 I've put in the field, I've had one 
already fail on me.   Panoptic makes one as well, but I had to power 
cycle a POE port yesterday when one froze up (or overheated?).  Anyone 
had good luck with any other 802.3af converters?


Randy

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You could take a regular PoE switch and use Ubiquiti's Instant 802.3af 
converters.






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Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

2011-03-02 Thread Randy Cosby
One other option to consider: 
http://www.packetflux.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=2products_id=34

The Sitemonitor-Controlled SyncInjector is designed to add sync and 
power to Canopy 100 AP's, but doesn't have to be used that way.  It can 
be used to power (and control) other POE devices - reverse your 4/5  
7/8 pairs.  It even lets you monitor the power usage (milliamps).  Be 
sure your power supply is big enough for 4 devices.

+ Remote management (SNMP)
+ Inexpensive (compared to some other midspan devices)
+ Daisy-chainable - easy to add additional ports

- Requires a separate sitemonitor base
- Not rack or DIN rail mountable
- Not a switch
- Single power supply



On 2/26/2011 9:04 AM, Rubens Kuhl wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jason Baileyj284...@yahoo.com  wrote:
 Anyone have a good vendor for a rackmount poe switch for ubnt gear?Getting 
 kinda messy with all the zip-ties and double-sided tape ;)  Thanks!  Jason
 Not UBNT, but RADWIN has a product called BDU (Base Distribution Unit)
 for up to 8 radios. Fully SNMP managed... unfortunately it's 48V (can
 be passive or 802.3af). But you can show them to UBTN's Ben Moore and
 say that's what you want...



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Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch

2011-03-02 Thread Randy Cosby
One more find.  This one looks promising (but expensive):

http://www.korenix-usa.com/prod/46/JetNet_4706

L-Com sells them.

Dual power supply inputs, 802.3af or non-standard 24v (software 
selectable),  web management/telnet/snmp management.




On 3/2/2011 10:40 AM, Randy Cosby wrote:
 One other option to consider:
 http://www.packetflux.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=2products_id=34

 The Sitemonitor-Controlled SyncInjector is designed to add sync and
 power to Canopy 100 AP's, but doesn't have to be used that way.  It can
 be used to power (and control) other POE devices - reverse your 4/5
 7/8 pairs.  It even lets you monitor the power usage (milliamps).  Be
 sure your power supply is big enough for 4 devices.

 + Remote management (SNMP)
 + Inexpensive (compared to some other midspan devices)
 + Daisy-chainable - easy to add additional ports

 - Requires a separate sitemonitor base
 - Not rack or DIN rail mountable
 - Not a switch
 - Single power supply



 On 2/26/2011 9:04 AM, Rubens Kuhl wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jason Baileyj284...@yahoo.com   wrote:
 Anyone have a good vendor for a rackmount poe switch for ubnt gear?Getting 
 kinda messy with all the zip-ties and double-sided tape ;)  Thanks!  Jason
 Not UBNT, but RADWIN has a product called BDU (Base Distribution Unit)
 for up to 8 radios. Fully SNMP managed... unfortunately it's 48V (can
 be passive or 802.3af). But you can show them to UBTN's Ben Moore and
 say that's what you want...



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Re: [WISPA] [WUG] Monitoring AC Current

2011-02-24 Thread Randy Cosby
Why do you need to step that up instead of just using the 0-100mv input 
(labeled shunt) on the packetflux sitemonitor.  Not sure I'm following 
you.



On 2/24/2011 3:43 PM, Matt wrote:
 I need to monitor current on an AC line at a tower site.  Like 5 amps
 at 120 VAC.  I would like to graph it with something like 'Site
 Monitor' from 'Packet Flux' which has a 0 - 100mv DC input among other
 inputs.  Does anyone know a good way to convert to that hopefully with
 some surge protection as well?

 Was considering using there 10amp current shunt right on the AC input
 then using a transformer and rectifier to step that back up from 100mv
 to about 1 - 3 volt DC.  Then inputting that into the 'Site Monitor'.
 Surely there is an easier way?
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Re: [WISPA] Monitoring batteries

2010-10-26 Thread Randy Cosby
I'm using one now, quite happy with it.  I can see amps in, amps out, 
volts in, battery volts, and about 20 other variables.




On 10/26/2010 4:48 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote:
 If you have (or get) a MorningStar charge controller, you could use one
 of these...

 http://www.packetflux.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=6products_id=32zenid=a701d853c4139d3f3c191b7dd586f1d0

 Note that I've haven't personally tried one of these...but I want to.

 -Kristian

 On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 15:42 -0700, ~NGL~ wrote:
 What is available to monitor a solar site via the net. We have 2
 remote tower powered by solar and would like to monitor them via the
 web.
 Thanx
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Re: [WISPA] Time to update the National WISP Map?

2010-10-11 Thread Randy Cosby

 Brian,

Any tips on turning radiomobile coverage overlays into shape files?  
I've been playing with some open source tools and have made a little 
progress, but haven't had time to refine the technique yet.  I think if 
ISPs could produce shape files more easily, the response would be much 
greater.   For our state program (Utah), we gave them gps coords  for 
each subscriber, which they used to extrapolate approximate area.  I 
know they also accepted radiomobile graphic overlays and converted them 
for some ISP's.  Of course they have millions of dollars to spend on 
such projects...  I was disappointed with how few did submit this round.


Randy

On 10/11/2010 8:04 AM, Brian Webster wrote:


I have been thinking that I should do another update to the WISP 
National Map. I would really love to improve the quality of the 
coverage area this time. The thought is to have each WISP who 
participated in their respective state broadband mapping initiative 
request a copy of the shape file for their network. If everyone sent 
that information to me I could use that to create a better nationwide map.


Thoughts, ideas, complaints?

For those who are not familiar with my previous work on this project 
you can visit these links:


http://www.wirelessmapping.com/National-Coverage-Map-for-Fixed-Wireless-ISP%27s.php 
this page describes the project


http://www.wirelessmapping.com/Google%20Maps3.htm this links to the 
live Google Map




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Re: [WISPA] Time to update the National WISP Map?

2010-10-11 Thread Randy Cosby
  Thanks Brian, Kristian,

I'll have to check out Splat! some time soon.  My process involved 
converting the Radiomobile overlay into a raster (svg) in Inkscape, then 
convert that to KML.  I can't remember off the top of my head how I did 
it, but I was able to preserve the gps coordinates of the shape through 
the conversions.  My primary need was to create interactive Google maps 
(ie: your home can be served by ap1, ap3 and ap4, with ap1 being the 
closest).  There are a number of apps for converting from KML shapes to 
.shp files, just haven't had a chance to experiment with them yet.

* Inkscape: http://inkscape.org/
* KML2SVG: http://kml2svg.free.fr/index3.php

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Re: [WISPA] Time to update the National WISP Map?

2010-10-11 Thread Randy Cosby
  Interesting.  So if the kml file includes a .png shape, it will 
convert that to vector first, then into shp?

Randy


On 10/11/2010 10:26 AM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote:
 ogr2ogr can convert KML to Shapfile (and many other formats).  Here's a
 list of all the supported formats...

 http://www.gdal.org/ogr/ogr_formats.html

 The command line is something like...

 ogr2ogr -f ESRI Shapefile output.shp input.kml

 This is the python wrapper for the polygonize functionality...

 http://svn.osgeo.org/gdal/trunk/gdal/swig/python/scripts/gdal_polygonize.py

 It comes packaged with the RPMs in EPEL, if RHEL or CentOS is your
 thing.


 -Kristian


 On Mon, 2010-10-11 at 10:09 -0600, Randy Cosby wrote:
 Thanks Brian, Kristian,

 I'll have to check out Splat! some time soon.  My process involved
 converting the Radiomobile overlay into a raster (svg) in Inkscape, then
 convert that to KML.  I can't remember off the top of my head how I did
 it, but I was able to preserve the gps coordinates of the shape through
 the conversions.  My primary need was to create interactive Google maps
 (ie: your home can be served by ap1, ap3 and ap4, with ap1 being the
 closest).  There are a number of apps for converting from KML shapes to
 .shp files, just haven't had a chance to experiment with them yet.

 * Inkscape: http://inkscape.org/
 * KML2SVG: http://kml2svg.free.fr/index3.php



 
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Re: [WISPA] Time to update the National WISP Map?

2010-10-11 Thread Randy Cosby
 Right.. I've already converted the overlay to vector before feeding it 
into the kml to shp.


I said the Radiomobile overlay into a raster (svg) in Inkscape ... I 
should have said the Radiomobile overlay into a _vector_ (svg) in Inkscape



 On 10/11/2010 10:39 AM, Brian Webster wrote:

Most of the kml to shape file tools will only work on files that are
polygons. The image overlays won't necessarily work.



Brian


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 12:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time to update the National WISP Map?

   Thanks Brian, Kristian,

I'll have to check out Splat! some time soon.  My process involved
converting the Radiomobile overlay into a raster (svg) in Inkscape, then
convert that to KML.  I can't remember off the top of my head how I did
it, but I was able to preserve the gps coordinates of the shape through
the conversions.  My primary need was to create interactive Google maps
(ie: your home can be served by ap1, ap3 and ap4, with ap1 being the
closest).  There are a number of apps for converting from KML shapes to
.shp files, just haven't had a chance to experiment with them yet.

* Inkscape: http://inkscape.org/
* KML2SVG: http://kml2svg.free.fr/index3.php



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Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespace Questions (channels and equipment)

2010-09-27 Thread Randy Cosby
 I have not had time to read up on TVWS much yet, but just had a 
thought over the weekend.  Wouldn't it be easy to adapt DOCSIS to TVWS?


Randy


On 9/25/2010 1:53 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote:

Looks like the cable companies are very worried about this situation.

http://www.cabletechtalk.com/white-spaces/



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On Sep 25, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Scott Carullo 
sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote:


I read the whole FCC document regarding what channels can be used.  
In one section it talks about fixed wireless under channel 21 but 
then in the decision section under that it just made the general 
statement that channels under 21 could not be utilized.  I only 
breezed through the document once.  Can someone answer the question 
of exactly what channels/frequencies are available for use assuming 
that all channels are free from other operators and none adjacent.  
Once the list of possible candidate channels are listed the available 
ones for use in a particular area can be further refined by removing 
all the utilized and adjacent channels to the ones utilized -- 
leaving only ones that can actually be used.


Next question to add - it would appear that there are currently no 
devices that can operate in TV WS due to the FCC requirement to A) be 
certified for use in this band and B) they require the devices to 
broadcast an identifying set of info for location / identity purposes 
which will need to be incorporated into the wireless protocol I would 
imagine.  Is this correct, there are no devices on the market in the 
US that are legal to use at this time


Thanks

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Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video

2010-09-15 Thread Randy Cosby

 Notice how they blur the faces?

Respect for the dead.  RIP.

Randy


On 9/15/2010 9:37 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:


Makes my palms sweat just watching it

WTF isn't he tied off? What an idiot

- Jerry

*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Justin Wilson

*Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:28 AM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* [WISPA] Tower Climb video

Mikrotik posted this on their Facebook post.  I don't see the guy 
clipping off or a safety climb so don't do as he does (unless I missed 
the safety portion).


_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txdv_oNq81I
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[WISPA] CNN Super Wi-Fi article

2010-09-15 Thread Randy Cosby
  This makes it sound like we're going to get what we want, that it's a 
slam dunk. Am I reading it wrong?

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/innovation/09/14/fcc.super.wifi/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn
 


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Re: [WISPA] [IMPORTANCE LEVEL: HIGH] TV Whitespaces Support Letter Template

2010-09-13 Thread Randy Cosby
 How long does it typically take for these to show up when submitted?  
I put one in this morning (and didn't bother to record the confirmation 
number), but don't see it there yet.


Randy


On 9/13/2010 3:12 PM, Rick Harnish wrote:


*UPDATE:  WISP Filing updates are beginning to show up in the FCC 
database.  Good job and thank you to those who have filed.  Go to 
http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/comment_search/input?z=vd7pb and search 
for 04-186 to read other WISP comments.  More importantly, get your 
comments filed pronto.  The deadline is September 16, 2010.  We need a 
good showing from the WISP industry to substantiate the importance of 
our industry in the decision making process.  This is not about WISPA, 
it is about your future and the WISP industry.*


All WISPs,

This week, WISPA filed comments on the TV Whitespaces once again.  The 
FCC is set to make decisions on this crucial topic very soon.  It is 
imperative for all operators to take a few minutes and file individual 
comments to the FCC about Unlicensed use of the TV Whitespaces 
spectrum this week.  Please don't procrastinate as the timeline is 
fairly short.


I have attached a template support letter that Jack Unger has written 
to make your support and comment filing easier.  Jack, Steve Coran and 
the FCC committee has worked hard for several years and especially in 
our recent filing.  We need to support their hard work efforts and 
produce a mass support campaign to give the WISPA filing even more 
credibility.  WISPs need more spectrum and we need spectrum that will 
penetrate foliage and other obstacles.  This is our opportunity and 
essentially our obligation to stand up for our needs before this 
crucial decision is made.  The WISPA filing can be read at 
http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7020911589.


Please customize the attached template letter with your company 
information and if you want to add additional local flavor, it is 
accepted.  The FCC staff will read each letter and register the 
support for the WISPA filing to assist them in making this tough 
decision.  We have received excellent comments back from the FCC, 
other trade associations and manufacturers about this filing and now 
our membership and industry participants need to stand up and be 
counted as well.


Once you have customized the letter, please make a .pdf copy or a .doc 
file and upload it at the following website. 
http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display?z=rhroc.  If you choose 
not to use the WISPA template letter but want to write your own 
comments, you can either follow the previous procedure or use the 
Express filing method at 
http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display?z=nc5cd.  The proceeding 
number is 04-186.


I cannot stress how important this is for each WISP company to do.  I 
hope to search the filings Monday morning and find 1000 or more new 
comments supporting the WISPA filing.  Take the time and git r dun 
before your busy work schedule begins again Monday morning.


Respectfully,

*Rick Harnish*

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WISPA

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866-317-2851 WISPA Office

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Re: [WISPA] Slightly OT - Mapping

2010-09-08 Thread Randy Cosby

 How many towers do you have, and how much did that cost?

Randy


On 9/8/2010 3:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Brian did Earth and Maps from our site, inxwireless.com/coverage 
http://inxwireless.com/coverage


On Sep 8, 2010 5:37 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com 
mailto:cc...@wispmon.com wrote:


If you are looking for a real GIS platform, I'd highly recommend 
Manifold. It is very inexpensive for what it does, and can handle 
formats from just about every other GIS platform. If you don't want 
the learning curve, I'd talk with Brian Webster over at 
wirelessmapping.com http://wirelessmapping.com. He can probably 
generate the files you need in no time and the time savings would be 
well worth whatever it costs you.


Regards,

Cameron


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mailto:lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:


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Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Randy Cosby
  LaRoy,

I'm waiting to see how Nstreme (TDMA) v2 compares on the Mikrotik.  So 
far it looks very promising, and could give UBNT a run for the money.  
UBNT has the price advantage, but not as much configuration-ability nor 
can you choose to use cheap or high quality enclosures.

Randy


On 9/3/2010 2:50 PM, Data Technology wrote:
I think that several of you are using Ubiquiti AirMax Rocket now
 instead of Mikrotik.

 I would like to know how they compare:
   1. As a point to point link.
   2. As an access point.

 Right now I only use Mikrotik for links and AP's and I use Ubiquiti for cpe.

 I am ready to install equipment on a new tower and was thinking about
 Using AirMax Rocket for AP to take avantage of MIMO.  I know Rocket will
 be cheaper but I don't know how they compare to a MT411AH as far as the
 amount of bandwidth and packets they can process.

 I am leaning towards  MT on the links and Rocket for AP.
 I am concerned about the plastic cases.  I really like having the boards
 in a metal enclosure so it can be grounded and shielded well.  I know I
 have had problems with lightening popping the ethernet port on the
 Ubiquiti units even when they are grounded.  With MT I can put ethernet
 surge protection in the enclosure.

 What are you guys seeing in the real world as the performance and
 reliability of Rockets?

 Any do and don'ts would be greatly appreciated here.

 Thanks and have a great Labor Day.

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Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-03 Thread Randy Cosby
  We're running a few hundred customers on Mikrotik PTMP and use it for 
most of our backhauls.  I really like the programability of the tiks, 
and we use the API's extensively.  I just don't have problems and they 
outperform my expectations, but it does take a bit of a learning curve.

Really really looking forward to trying PTMP with TDMA in the tiks.  I 
use WDS so have to wait for them to get that working (nstreme v2 in beta 
now).

Randy


On 9/3/2010 3:15 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote:
 I'll weigh in here, I have almost an equal mix of Ubiquiti and Mikrotik
 I'll detail each plus put a summary analogy for these and Motorola at
 the end of my email.  One of the things that jumps out on me is how raw
 Mikrotik is, if you want to be able to write every filter, detail every
 part of the packets, and throughput, it is a very robust piece of
 equipment.  I use it as my primary backhauls and about 70% of my AP's
 other than a few that shouldn't happen problems they perform
 admirably. I keep adding filters as traffic presents itself but help and
 training is very expensive and extraordinarily technical On my backhauls
 when one Mikrotik goes down its not unusual for the foul traffic to
 permeate throughout (yes I'm bridged) the network and take down other
 Mikrotik's and often requires a drive to reboot then they work fine
 again, irritating, yes but still great equipment.  I was 90% Mikrotik
 until Ubiquiti came along.

Ubiquiti is a monster for power and throughput, it's menus are basic
 but filters entry options are slim and limited to IP rather than by
 protocol so some things sneak through that wouldn't with Mikrotik.  As a
 backhaul they do seem to ignore foul traffic so I'm assuming Ubiquiti
 entered a bunch of filters by default because these units just don't go
 down, ever.  Their user table as an AP is not very friendly, limited to
 MAC without a description line so we have to look everyone up by MAC
 now.  I have integrated Ubiquiti for all of my 5 Gig customer AP's and
 kept Mikrotik for 2.4 just because its not necessary to replace working
 radios.  The M format is amazing and has moved us up a notch in
 delivery capability, oh and it's cheap as hell so I can afford to deploy
 twice as fast as before.

 I promised an analogy so here goes, I feel from experience that Mikrotik
 is the Linux of equipment, you better know what you're doing when you
 buy it.  Motorola is the Apple of equipment, do what they say and pay a
 ton and you'll get a near-flawless product that you have almost no
 control over, you just won't be able to deploy very fast due to the
 cost.  Ubiquiti is like Windows, pretty GUI driven, and simplified at a
 reasonable cost.

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 President - Washington Broadband, Inc.
 forbes.me...@wabroadband.com

 On 9/3/2010 1:50 PM, Data Technology wrote:
 I think that several of you are using Ubiquiti AirMax Rocket now
 instead of Mikrotik.

 I would like to know how they compare:
1. As a point to point link.
2. As an access point.

 Right now I only use Mikrotik for links and AP's and I use Ubiquiti for cpe.

 I am ready to install equipment on a new tower and was thinking about
 Using AirMax Rocket for AP to take avantage of MIMO.  I know Rocket will
 be cheaper but I don't know how they compare to a MT411AH as far as the
 amount of bandwidth and packets they can process.

 I am leaning towards  MT on the links and Rocket for AP.
 I am concerned about the plastic cases.  I really like having the boards
 in a metal enclosure so it can be grounded and shielded well.  I know I
 have had problems with lightening popping the ethernet port on the
 Ubiquiti units even when they are grounded.  With MT I can put ethernet
 surge protection in the enclosure.

 What are you guys seeing in the real world as the performance and
 reliability of Rockets?

 Any do and don'ts would be greatly appreciated here.

 Thanks and have a great Labor Day.

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Re: [WISPA] Note of support for the WISPA Regional Meeting

2010-07-07 Thread Randy Cosby
Putting my Chamber of Commerce hat on... How about St. George, UT? :)

or V E G A S :)

Randy


On 7/6/2010 4:38 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
 I think we should start the chant now Randy...

 VEGAS...
 VEGAS...
 VEGAS...
 V-E-G-A-S... :)

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 Randy Cosby wrote:

 Are there plans for other regional meetings - like in Utah, Vegas or
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Re: [WISPA] Note of support for the WISPA Regional Meeting

2010-07-06 Thread Randy Cosby
Are there plans for other regional meetings - like in Utah, Vegas or 
Colorado?

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Re: [WISPA] Maximum sector power?

2010-06-23 Thread Randy Cosby
And when the FCC comes knocking, you can always point to the other guy 
and say but he's worse!

Or not...


Randy


On 6/23/2010 3:59 PM, Jack Unger wrote:
 That's a basic question.

   From one consultant to another... the maximum legal access point EIRP
 on 5.8 GHz is +36 dBm.

 What individual WISP operators actually do in practice is anybody's guess.

 The majority of WISP operators are mature, responsible people. They
 strive to do the right thing and to obey the law to the best of their
 ability.

 A minority of WISP operators (unfortunately, our industry has its share
 of bad apples) take pride in their disdain for anybody or anything and
 seem to revel in telling other people to go to hell.

 Best of luck to you,
 jack



 Fred R. Goldstein wrote:

 I'm just a little confused about some of these nice-looking access
 points.  The UBNT Rocket M5, for instance, can put out +27 dBm.  It
 plugs *right into* a nice 19dB sector antenna.  Okay, the smaller,
 120 dB sector is only 16 dB.  Now math is not really my thing but I
 get a total ERP there of +43 to 46 dBm.

 FCC Rule 15.247 states that the maximum transmitted power output for
 digitally-modulated intentional radiators in the 5725-5850 MHz band
 (ISM) is 1 watt, and the maximum antenna gain is 6 dBi.  Each
 additional dB of antanna gain means one less dB of power.  So the
 maximum ERP is 4 watts (+36).

 Point-to-point is an exception in that specific band; it is allowed
 unlimited antenna gain.  But point-to-multipoint systems,
 omnidirectional applications, and multiple co-located intentional
 radiators transmitting the same information are under the cap.

 So am I correct in assuming that everybody who uses the Rocket M5, or
 any other similar PtMP system for subscriber access, turns the
 transmitter power REAL low (~+20 + feedline loss), in order to keep
 the ERP below +36?  Or are we assuming that since you're technically
 only transmitting and receiving to one end user at a time, it's really PtP?

 SkyPilot's legal hack, of course, is to have eight 45 degree sector
 antennas and only use one at a time, so it is legally PTP even with
 +42 EiRP. And with advanced 11N 4x4 beamforming antennas, something
 like that will become relatively easy.  But we're not quite there
 yet.  Thoughts?

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Re: [WISPA] GPS synced systems

2010-06-14 Thread Randy Cosby
Tranzeo just announced GPS for their 5.8 Wimax.



On 6/14/2010 10:44 AM, Rubens Kuhl wrote:
 RedMAX 3.5 GHz (not for use in the US) products sure use GPS.
 RedConnec AN-80i don't.
 Is the 3.65 solution  based on RedMAX or AN-80 ?


 Rubens


 On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Jerry Richardson
 jrichard...@aircloud.com  wrote:

 Redline 3.65?


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 Subject: [WISPA] GPS synced systems

 Other than Canopy, what systems also use GPS sync?

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Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp

2010-05-27 Thread Randy Cosby
Sheesh you guys, you're scaring him AND making fun of his name.  Welcome 
to the club :)


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Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi

2010-05-26 Thread Randy Cosby
Someone needs to build that into the Mikrotik.

On 5/26/2010 11:53 AM, Robert West wrote:
 The genius of that is indescribable.

 It's one thing to fight them off but to simply allow them access then to
 mess with them.  Priceless.



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl
 Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:43 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi

 Making images appear upside-down is more fun:
 http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html

 Rubens


 On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:

 For fun I name all the private wifi routers to an SSID of Virus.  The
 attempts to connect have dropped considerably.



 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Patrick Leary
 Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:24 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi

 ...a little OT, but, after being party to all the free craziness of
 Earthlink, etc. just the title Free Public Wi-Fi makes me break out in
 hives...


 Patrick Leary
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 813.426.4230 mobile

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 Behalf Of Steve Barnes
 Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:06 AM
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 Subject: [WISPA] Free Public WiFi

 I am embarrassed to ask here but I am going to anyway.

 I have some customers laptops that have been here lately with the Free
 Public WiFi ssid on them.  I know that this is a Microsoft screw up on
 the Zero Wireless Connections.  I have made the stations so that they
 can only connect to a AP in the future.  But the Free Public WiFi SSID
 still shows up on the systems even when the Wireless card is turned off.
 I have removed all preferred SSIDs and still nothing.  Any one know how
 to kill this out of a Win XP system. (without going to Linux)

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Re: [WISPA] MT PtP

2010-04-28 Thread Randy Cosby
FWIW I've been very pleased with the R52HN.



On 4/28/2010 8:30 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Have you used the r5h?  The r52n is very disappointing.

 On 4/28/10, Kurt Fankhauserk...@wavelinc.com  wrote:

 What 350mw card are you using? I wouldn't use anything less than XR5 or R5H
 because their receive sensitivity is so much better. Plus you will use MMCX
 connectors with these two cards which is going to save you a lot of
 headaches over u.fl. Also definitely turn on N-stream. I had a link that was
 bouncing around between 75-90% ccq and couldn't ever get it up higher than
 that. As soon as I turned on N-stream my ccq went to 100/100%. And
 modulation locks itself at 54/54 all day long.

 Kurt Fankhauser
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 Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 2:23 AM
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 Subject: [WISPA] MT PtP

 I want to setup an MT point to point using two MT 411 boards, 350mw cards
 and a 23db rootena. Distance is 7km. Is there anything I need to tweak or
 watch out for? New to MT. I have setup a basic link and tested in the
 office.

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[WISPA] Qwest buyout

2010-04-22 Thread Randy Cosby
http://news.qwest.com/centurylinkqwestmerger

*MONROE, La. and DENVER, Co. -- April 22, 2010* -- CenturyLink 
(CenturyTel, Inc., NYSE: CTL) and Qwest Communications (NYSE: Q) 
announced today that their boards of directors have approved a 
definitive agreement under which CenturyLink will acquire Qwest in a 
tax-free, stock-for-stock transaction. ...

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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti AirOS Comparison

2010-04-13 Thread Randy Cosby
Tom,

What fixes have you seen in 5 for Wireless-N? Or did I mis-read this?

Randy



RandyAnd they are not the only ones For example, I'm amazed at how far
 Mikrotik has come, considering feature rich for the dollar.
 (Note: MIkrotik released new Firmware, a 5 vers, does not list any wirelessN
 fixes, but it looked like it added a couple relevent and desirable fixes.)

 Tom DeReggi
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti AirOS Comparison



 On 13 April 2010 11:52, MDKrea...@muddyfrogwater.us  wrote:
  
 Did you do a throughput comparison?

 It was mostly a joke, but I'll bite. A throughput comparison is not
 fair, since they both just leverage someone else's chipset. My point
 was simply that if a low end wifi based product had these features 10+
 years ago, why the hell does UBNT see fit to release something today
 that is shiny and fast, but lacking core functionality. I guess the
 market demands cheap.


 
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[WISPA] Form 477

2010-04-08 Thread Randy Cosby
I know it's not Form 477 panic season, but I am just working on a few 
items in my database to get a cleaner count next time, and I ran across 
something I had not noticed before.

http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477tutorial.pdf

On page 26, it instructs:

Include census tracts within your defined service territory (see 
instructions) that have no broadband customers.
   - Enter 0 in any cell that permits connections and also in the 
corresponding cell for percentage residential

Anyone doing this?  This goes beyond what we've been doing, and would 
seem to require some more advanced coverage mapping to not only find our 
existing customers by census tract, but also all census tracts we CAN 
serve.  I believe this same data is what he broadband mapping folks will 
be looking for as well.

I guess I need to go see instructions to find out what exactly 
service territory means.

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Re: [WISPA] Stimulus waste

2010-04-08 Thread Randy Cosby
Travis,

Do you have a link to the article, or to a list of upgrade areas?

Thanks,

Randy


On 4/7/2010 7:02 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 So, as I said since the Broadband Stimulus act was passed, the money
 will be wasted. Qwest just applied for $467 MILLION dollars to upgrade
 their DSL infrastructure in my coverage areas. They want to expand and
 upgrade the slower 7meg connections to go up to 12 to 40 megabytes
 per second.

 The article says they will increase coverage to 29,922 new customers.
 That's an average cost of $15,607 PER CUSTOMER.

 Many of the areas they list (Idaho Falls, Rexburg, Ammon, Blackfoot,
 Rigby, Shelley, etc.) already have at least 3 providers and some have 4
 or 5 provider choices.

 Let the waste begin :(

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Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC

2010-04-05 Thread Randy Cosby
 viewer.

 Your questions and constructive suggestions are always welcome.

 Respectfully Submitted,

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[WISPA] census tracts changing?

2010-04-02 Thread Randy Cosby
Just curious if the census tracts change with the new census this year?  
Will our data we've compiled for the Form 477 still be valid next go-around?

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[WISPA] Cisco Buys Wimax Smartgrid company

2010-03-26 Thread Randy Cosby

Cisco Systems has been scouting for major plays in the Smart Grid 
infrastructure arena for about a year --- some analysts even speculated 
that it would buy wireless networking provider Silver Spring Networks 
http://silverspringnet.com/. But today, it announced its decision to 
go with http://www.grid-net.com/pr-2010-03-25 Grid Net 
http://www.grid-net.com/, one of the first and only companies to 
trumpet WiMAX as the ultimate solution for transmitting data between 
utilities and smart meters.

http://green.venturebeat.com/2010/03/25/cisco-buys-into-wimax-for-smart-grid-acquires-stake-in-grid-net/

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Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf

2010-03-22 Thread Randy Cosby
My experience has been the same.  They are getting old and don't keep up 
with the young kids so well, but they are solid. I've had 2 fail so far 
- one with a heater issue and this one.



On 3/20/2010 5:42 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
 Overall our Trango APs have lasted very long, been super reliable, more
 reliable than any other product we have ever used. Many going on 10 years
 now, without a blip.
 But, for the few that have failed, one of the commom symptoms is going deaf.
 It can be hard to troubleshoot because at first, they'll just get lower RSSI
 for a short period usually at peak Sun/heat time, and get stronger at night.
 The exact same symptoms occur when there is random noise. The noise
 resulting in 5-10 db loss, and full strength comes back when noise is gone.
 So sometimes the only way we know its the radio was to replace the AP, and
 see if the same problem occurs. Or relocte the AP, and see if it has the
 same random symptoms. In some cases, the APs go deaf, and CPEs see them with
 RSSI but cant associate because APs cant hear them.

 I dont have an exact number, but I know I can count the total failure over
 10 years on fingers of one hand, with a finger or two to spare. So it does
 not happen often. But its one reason I tend not to want to buy used APs.
 You'd have no way to test if it was flaky before putting it in the field for
 a while..

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Garrettggarr...@nidaho.net
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 2:32 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf



 That is the classic sign of a mid path lightning strike.
 Kind of like looking at a nuclear explosion with field glasses.
 It probably hit somewhere closer to the AP than the clients.

 We had a strike in the middle of a lake... it got the AP and all the
 clients all around the lake shore, not the Backhaul though because it
 was a narrow beam  pointed up at a mountain not down at the water.
 That really sucked.


 On 3/19/2010 2:10 PM, Randy Cosby wrote:
  
 Anyone ever seen a Trango 5830 AP go deaf?  I have one that was showing
 RSSI from AP to SU at 10 to 13db higher than SU to AP.  Same on all
 channels, vert or horiz polarity.  Cruddy linktests as well.

 Thought I might have a bad noise problem, but replacing the AP fixed it.






 
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[WISPA] Trango Apex Cacti template

2010-03-19 Thread Randy Cosby
Anyone have a Cacti template for a licensed Trango Apex link?

thanks,

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[WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf

2010-03-19 Thread Randy Cosby
Anyone ever seen a Trango 5830 AP go deaf?  I have one that was showing 
RSSI from AP to SU at 10 to 13db higher than SU to AP.  Same on all 
channels, vert or horiz polarity.  Cruddy linktests as well.

Thought I might have a bad noise problem, but replacing the AP fixed it.


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Re: [WISPA] Trango 5830 AP going deaf

2010-03-19 Thread Randy Cosby
Mostly SU to AP.



On 3/19/2010 3:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Cruddy linktests as well.
  
 Both ways or just from SU to AP?

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 On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Randy Cosbydco...@infowest.com  wrote:

 Anyone ever seen a Trango 5830 AP go deaf?  I have one that was showing
 RSSI from AP to SU at 10 to 13db higher than SU to AP.  Same on all
 channels, vert or horiz polarity.  Cruddy linktests as well.

 Thought I might have a bad noise problem, but replacing the AP fixed it.


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Re: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz WiMAX deal

2010-03-18 Thread Randy Cosby
In my limited toe-dipping into 802.16d (fixed) wimax, the biggest 
challenge I see is with the EMS-based control.  It's just a completely 
different model than what we're doing with all-in-one AP's now.  I don't 
yet completely understand how it works, but it concerns me a bit that 
each company has their own EMS (or whatever they choose to call it) that 
will not interoperate with other Wimax vendors' EMS, base station, etc.  
Maybe the EMS is a good way to go, so we don't have to invent so many 
for our current very customized networks..  Just a different way of 
thinking.

Anyone deployed something small like a Tranzeo or small Aperto base station?

On 3/17/2010 7:27 PM, Butch Evans wrote:
 On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 21:07 -0400, Glenn Kelley wrote:

 Is any one here actually sold on WiMax ?
  
 Sold on...not me.  Recognize that there ARE some benefits...YES!


 I am not sure what this gives us over say ... a Fixed system except
 higher pricing for equipment and a product that does not go as far...

 I could be wrong - guess its time for an education

 anyone know the benefits of WiMax?
  
 I will leave most of the sales guys that man these lists, but there are
 a number of benefits to WiMAX that make it a better solution than simple
 polling or tdma approaches.  First thing to remember is that WiMAX was
 designed specifically for the way we use our networks.  That is, outdoor
 where we will see noise AND where all stations to not see each other.
 There were a number of issues that WiMAX addresses revolving those 2
 issues specifically.

 Secondly, WiMAX has built in QOS on the air interface.  That is HUGE.
 The ability to have true QOS on that part of the network where protocols
 that need the least latency will get it, regardless of where they fit in
 the polling order as it were.  The details here are astonishing and
 worth reading if you truly have an interest in answering the question
 why should I be interested in WiMAX.

 Having pointed out just one or two of the many benefits of WiMAX, I will
 say that I am not completely convinced that it is the cat's meow.  There
 are a number of networks that do not need these benefits, given the
 cost.  I won't reopen the good enough network argument, but the fact
 is that for many of us (most perhaps), polling or tdma is sufficient for
 the networks that we run and the cost of WiMAX makes it such that the
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[WISPA] Spectrum Dashboard

2010-03-18 Thread Randy Cosby
Have I missed a discussion on this already?  Wish the regular FCC site 
searches were as fast at this one.

http://reboot.fcc.gov/reform/systems/spectrum-dashboard


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Re: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz WiMAX deal

2010-03-18 Thread Randy Cosby
Can someone clarify, is the Motorola 320 MIMO out of the box?  Is it two 
(or more) antennas in the same polarity?

Randy


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 I have to admit if MIMO is made available in the 3.65 range I'm going to
 use it in my city.  I've been catering to my rural customers because 2.4
 and 5GHZ isn't clogged out there.  We already have a 3.65 license but
 haven't deployed it yet, I anxiously await the MIMO gear on that frequency.

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Re: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz WiMAX deal

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Re: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz WiMAX deal

2010-03-18 Thread Randy Cosby
Thanks.  Now, on the Motorola 320, for example, the ASN gateway is not 
part of the picture, correct?



On 3/18/2010 1:59 PM, Rubens Kuhl wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Randy Cosbydco...@infowest.com  wrote:

 For us WiMAX neophytes, could you explain the ASN gateway and why it's
 on your list of things you don't want?
  
 An ASN gateway sits between the Radio Access Network (where there are
 only tunnels from the base station to the ASN GW) and the Core
 Services Network, where the traffic seen is the user traffic. You can
 see a better explation with diagrams in:

 http://www.tutorialspoint.com/wimax/wimax_network_model.htm

 ASN gateways are usually expensive, as are the BSC (Base Station
 Controllers) that have a similar role in cellular networks. What Pure
 Wave is doing is something that was once know as Profile B where the
 base station could work without an ASN gateway. Navini gear before
 Cisco also worked like this, which is very similar to what an Wi-Fi
 Access-Point usually does.

 In larger networks ASN gateways are essential to scaling the network
 and the ones I've tested were pretty good. I just don't want to pay
 the price of them.


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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 legal ptp radios

2010-03-15 Thread Randy Cosby
Excellent news.  Do you know if there is an easy way now to see where 
the TDWR radars are (for curiosity's sake)?

Randy


On 3/11/2010 3:56 PM, Jack Unger wrote:
 Randy,

 The 5 GHz equipment approval process is currently on hold at the request
 of the FAA and the NTIA. Airport Terminal Doppler Weather Radars (TDWR)
 operate in the 5.6 GHz range and have been experiencing interference
 from current 5475-5725 MHz equipment. Because of this interference, a
 new Dynamic Frequency Selection (DFS) algorithm is being developed to
 allow newly-certified equipment to detect and avoid nearby TDWR radar
 systems. Until the new algorithm is developed and the FCC certification
 process re-started, there will be no new outdoor 5.4 equipment certified.

 To allow recertifications to restart before the new algorithm is
 developed and implemented, the wireless industry has been meeting with
 the FCC, FAA and NTIA. The FAA and NTIA agreed to allow 5 GHz outdoor
 equipment certifications to be restarted if the industry would provide a
 database that allowed an operator to a) See if their outdoor base
 stations are within 35 km of one of the airport TDWR sites, and b) If
 within 35 km, voluntarily register their equipment type and contact
 information in the database. Each airport TDWR site uses one frequency.
 Operators are requested to maintain a minimum 30-MHz center-to-center
 frequency separation away from the single frequency used by the
 neighboring TDWR.

 If/when TDWR interference does occurs, the voluntary database should
 help the FCC to contact the operator of the equipment that may be
 causing the interference and request a frequency change or request that
 the one nearby TDWR frequency be excluded from the DFS channel search list.

 Once the new TDWR-aware algorithm is ready for incorporation into new 5
 GHz equipment, this database is expected to slowly become obsolete as
 the older equipment is retired.

 WISPA's FCC Committee is working with the industry group (Motorola,
 Cisco, Atheros, Intel, etc.) as well as with the FCC, FAA and NTIA to
 help find a solution to this TDWR-interference problem. We'll provide
 more information when significant developments occur.

 Jack Unger
 WISPA FCC Committee Chair
 818-227-4220


 Randy Cosby wrote:

 I'm trying to compile a list of options for FCC certified 5.4 ptp radios
 for short backhaul links.  Off the top of my head, I can remember:

 Tranzeo TR-5A
 Trango TrangoLINK-45
 Radwin 2000 (has mimo as well)
 Motorola PTP 100, 200, 300, 500, 600

 Any others I'm not aware of?  Sure would be nice to see more mimo/N
 radios certified in 5.4.  Anyone working through the approval process
 (ligowave?).



  


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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 legal ptp radios

2010-03-15 Thread Randy Cosby
Ignore my question - I've been out of the office and didn't read the 
responses that already answered it.



On 3/15/2010 10:27 AM, Randy Cosby wrote:
 Excellent news.  Do you know if there is an easy way now to see where
 the TDWR radars are (for curiosity's sake)?

 Randy


 On 3/11/2010 3:56 PM, Jack Unger wrote:

 Randy,

 The 5 GHz equipment approval process is currently on hold at the request
 of the FAA and the NTIA. Airport Terminal Doppler Weather Radars (TDWR)
 operate in the 5.6 GHz range and have been experiencing interference
 from current 5475-5725 MHz equipment. Because of this interference, a
 new Dynamic Frequency Selection (DFS) algorithm is being developed to
 allow newly-certified equipment to detect and avoid nearby TDWR radar
 systems. Until the new algorithm is developed and the FCC certification
 process re-started, there will be no new outdoor 5.4 equipment certified.

 To allow recertifications to restart before the new algorithm is
 developed and implemented, the wireless industry has been meeting with
 the FCC, FAA and NTIA. The FAA and NTIA agreed to allow 5 GHz outdoor
 equipment certifications to be restarted if the industry would provide a
 database that allowed an operator to a) See if their outdoor base
 stations are within 35 km of one of the airport TDWR sites, and b) If
 within 35 km, voluntarily register their equipment type and contact
 information in the database. Each airport TDWR site uses one frequency.
 Operators are requested to maintain a minimum 30-MHz center-to-center
 frequency separation away from the single frequency used by the
 neighboring TDWR.

 If/when TDWR interference does occurs, the voluntary database should
 help the FCC to contact the operator of the equipment that may be
 causing the interference and request a frequency change or request that
 the one nearby TDWR frequency be excluded from the DFS channel search list.

 Once the new TDWR-aware algorithm is ready for incorporation into new 5
 GHz equipment, this database is expected to slowly become obsolete as
 the older equipment is retired.

 WISPA's FCC Committee is working with the industry group (Motorola,
 Cisco, Atheros, Intel, etc.) as well as with the FCC, FAA and NTIA to
 help find a solution to this TDWR-interference problem. We'll provide
 more information when significant developments occur.

 Jack Unger
 WISPA FCC Committee Chair
 818-227-4220


 Randy Cosby wrote:

  
 I'm trying to compile a list of options for FCC certified 5.4 ptp radios
 for short backhaul links.  Off the top of my head, I can remember:

 Tranzeo TR-5A
 Trango TrangoLINK-45
 Radwin 2000 (has mimo as well)
 Motorola PTP 100, 200, 300, 500, 600

 Any others I'm not aware of?  Sure would be nice to see more mimo/N
 radios certified in 5.4.  Anyone working through the approval process
 (ligowave?).






  


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Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements

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Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements

2010-03-15 Thread Randy Cosby
Maybe I read too much into it, but here it he language I was referring to.
*
Radio stations must be licensed by the FCC pursuant to 47 U.S.C. S: 301.
*The only exception to this licensing requirement is for certain
transmitters using or operating at a power level or mode of operation that
complies with the standards established in Part 15 of the Commission's
rules. Nonlicensed operation pursuant to Part 15 of the FCC's rules,
however, is conditioned upon compliance with all applicable regulations in
the subpart. 47 C.F.R. S: 15.1(b). All intentional radiators, such as your
U-NII device, operating pursuant to Part 15 of the FCC's rules must be
certified for use as a Part 15 device. 47 C.F.R. S: 15.201(b). The
Motorola Canopy device, model # 5700BH20, FCC ID ABZ89F-C5804, is not
authorized for use on frequency 5.60 GHz. Accordingly, you are not in
compliance with the requirements of Part 15 of the FCC's rules. Therefore,
your operations must be licensed by the FCC.*The FCC has no record of a
license being issued to you to operate a transmitter on 5.61 GHz from your
location.*Thus, this station is operating in violation of 47 U.S.C.
S: 301.

http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-290775A1.html

On 3/15/2010 12:16 PM, Jack Unger wrote:
 I don't recall hearing or reading that but I don't have a photographic 
 memory (at least not anymore). Can you cut and paste a copy of the 
 language that you are referring to?

 Randy Cosby wrote:
 In the enforcement letters, it mentions licensing some of the 5.4
 frequencies.  Is that really even an option?

 Randy


 On 3/13/2010 9:50 AM, Jack Unger wrote:

 That requirement was done several years ago to avoid military radars.

 Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
  
 If this radar operates at 5600-5650 why does the FCC now require the DFS on
 5300mhz ???

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
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 -Original Message-
 From:wireless-boun...@wispa.org   [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jack Unger
 Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 2:42 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Cc: WISPA's FCC Committee
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements

 Eric,

 That is a very responsible position to take.

 The database doesn't exist yet. Final definition and creation of it is
 being worked on right now by the Industry Group (Motorola, Cisco,
 Atheros, Intel, WISPA and others).

 WISPA and the FCC Committee will be helping with industry outreach and
 education so we will alert you (and as many other operators as possible)
 on-list when there are major developments and when the database is ready.

 Let me know which TDWR site you are near and I'll find out what
 frequency they are using so you can remain 30 MHz away from it.

 jack
 (Chair - WISPA FCC Committee)


 Eric Rogers wrote:


 Jack,



 Who do I contact to get on the list?  I am like 5 miles from one of the
 TDWR radar sites.  We are using Motorola 5.4 with 9.5 so it supposedly
 has more updated signatures.  I would rather get on the list voluntarily
 than they find me.



 Eric



 From:wireless-boun...@wispa.org   [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jack Unger
 Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 2:00 PM
 To:nstooke...@wisperisp.com; WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements



 The FAA and NTIA want all outdoor operators to 1) verify if within 35
 km, 2) if within 35 km, register your equipment and contact information
 in a (voluntary) database so they know who to contact if there is an
 interference problem, and 3) use channels that are more than 30 MHz away
 from the single-frequency that the nearby TDWR uses.

 jack


 Nathan Stooke wrote:

 Hello,

   So in those areas they want no 5.2 or 5.4 at all or only in the
 already blocked out part of the 5.4 band?

   Thanks


 -Original Message-
 From:wireless-boun...@wispa.org   [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Brian Webster
 Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 9:53 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements

 And here is a Google Earth file for the areas they want protected around
 these radar sites.



 Thank You,
 Brian Webster

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 From:wireless-boun...@wispa.org   [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
 Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 9:01 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_Doppler_Weather_Radar

 Attached is a map of TDWR locations in the United States. From what I
 read
 the radar has a range of 460 kilometers.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


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[WISPA] 5.4 legal ptp radios

2010-03-11 Thread Randy Cosby
I'm trying to compile a list of options for FCC certified 5.4 ptp radios 
for short backhaul links.  Off the top of my head, I can remember:

Tranzeo TR-5A
Trango TrangoLINK-45
Radwin 2000 (has mimo as well)
Motorola PTP 100, 200, 300, 500, 600

Any others I'm not aware of?  Sure would be nice to see more mimo/N 
radios certified in 5.4.  Anyone working through the approval process 
(ligowave?).


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Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from Propel Software for WISPAmembers

2010-03-09 Thread Randy Cosby
Jpegs and pngs are another area that they compress.  You can re-compress 
these images quite a bit.  They look uglier, but it saves quite a bit of 
the size.  Is it worth it?  I'm not too excited.

Randy


On 3/8/2010 11:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Almost all HTTP content is gzip'ed already.  I doubt any compression
 above that is going to be worth the CPU time cost.

 Even if the software was free, who would support the people who are
 terrified to install anything at all?

 On 3/9/10, Scottie Arnettsarn...@info-ed.com  wrote:

 If you really check into it, it is a data compression deal. Much like
 zipping up the data with winzip before it crosses the data layer. I really
 do not see how it can help with broadband in any sense. I used to use the
 same type deals on dial-up.

 Scottie


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 From: David E. Smithd...@mvn.net
 Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:56:22 -0600

  
 On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 13:45, Marlon K. Schafer
 o...@odessaoffice.comwrote:


 OK, this looks interesting.  It would be nice to drop the amount of data
 across especially busy parts of the network!

 Anyone else used this or something similar?

  
 This looks a lot like the dialup accelerator software packages that were
 all
 the rage several years ago. I'd just about bet Propel's service requires
 software to be installed on the customer's PC. Assuming that's the case,
 you
 won't be able to install it on a Netflix box or a PS3 or basically anything
 that's not a standard desktop computer. Thus, depending on your customer
 base, you may not see all that much traffic reduction.

 We have something similar, from another vendor. It works well enough,
 though
 we were marketing it primarily towards dialup users; at the time (several
 years ago) the effects on a 1Mbps connection were negligible. This probably
 has changed over time, but our vendor wanted a crazy amount of money to
 sell
 us an update that would be compatible with Windows Vista, so we haven't
 really tested it in quite a while.

 David Smith
 MVN.net


 
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone gotten a 3.65 license lately?

2010-03-09 Thread Randy Cosby
Are you applying for a license, or a new location on an existing license?



On 3/9/2010 8:53 AM, ralphlists wrote:
 How long is the FCC taking these days for a new license?


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Re: [WISPA] Another on line geocoder and tract mapper (not free but reasonable prices).

2010-02-22 Thread Randy Cosby
What we really need is a way to standardize addresses in Platypus, then 
add the census info (and why not GPS coords) to that.  Anyone tried a 
project like that?

Randy


On 2/20/2010 3:46 PM, Brian Webster wrote:
 I found another on line geocoding service (http://www.geocode.com/) that
 seems to have reasonable rates and is run by TeleAtlas. TeleAtlas is one of
 the premiere geocoding data sources in the US. This is the data set most of
 the on line mapping systems use to resolve address information to a set of
 coordinates. As I have mentioned in other emails, the accuracy and quality
 of the results will be greatly affected by the standardizations of your
 street address information as compared to the official USPS recognized
 address database (and RR address information is very hard to deal with, if
 you can add zip+4 it will work better). With their desktop software tool
 they will return the census tract and block information as part of the
 results. The tool will attempt to standardize the address information.

 TeleAtlas publishes a very nice document that shows the output formats and
 describes the address geocoding methods and the specific details on
 standardization of street address data. Well worth a read for those
 interested in cleaning up their customer address databases for more
 successful mailings and/or mapping of their customer locations.
 http://www.geocode.com/documentation/USA_Geo_002.pdf


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Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

2010-02-18 Thread Randy Cosby
Brad,

I had one thought last night I hadn't considered before.

My unit is a 100Mbps unit, so Cat5e POE was workable. At 200Mbps, you'll 
need GigE I assume.  This will require all 4 pairs for data.  You'd need 
more cable for power.  At worst you'll need two separate cables, but 
it's still workable.

Randy


On 2/18/2010 11:25 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
 Before I decide on trying Randy's idea, is there anyone that happens to have
 a DragonWave Air-Pair outdoor cable they're willing to part with?

 It looks like Tessco and Hutton are special order only.  If anyone has a
 cable they are willing to sell let me know.  I think we've got one cable
 that is long enough for one side, but I need another cable for the other
 side.

 Thanks!



 Brad Belton
 BelWave Communications
 O:  817-737-3124 #101
 F:  817-336-7031




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Randy Cosby
 Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:36 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

 We don't have it up yet (another long story - but we won't buy another
 used Dragonwave on Ebay), but they will be pretty short runs.   I would
 think you should be able to get up to 300ft without a problem.

 Randy


 On 2/16/2010 12:33 PM, Brad Belton wrote:

 Hello Randy,

 Ha!  Very interesting.  How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each
  
 side

 of the link?  At what power level do you have the radios set to?

 Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way
 inside to the outdoor designed IDU.  This would limit the length of the
 proprietary cables to a minimum.  The question I have if we do this is:
 Will the outdoor IDU be able to power   operate the ODU over the 50'-200'
  
 of

 LMR400 we may need rather than the 3'-4' of LMR400 it was intended to do?

 Thanks for the feedback!

 Best,


 Brad


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Randy Cosby
 Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:32 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and
  
 feedback...

 Since your unit is out of warranty anyway...

 If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet port
 inside it, as well as a power port, connected to that proprietary plug.
 We replaced that with a Pacific Wireless RJ45 ethernet connector system
 - http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/RJ45-ECS_datasheet-v2.pdf
 and peeled the power off that.  We were then able to push power +
 ethernet up on one cable.



 On 2/16/2010 6:31 AM, Brad Belton wrote:

  
 Hello Kristian,

 Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too


 small

  
 for an armored outdoor CAT5 cable.  It's a shame the product engineers


 some

  
 manufacturers use/have to design their products are so imperceptive of


 basic

  
 field requirements.

 The inherited DragonWave AirPair radios that we're contemplating using on


 a

  
 job have the proprietary round DIN style plug attached to a custom
 DragonWave bundled cable.  It looks like Hutton and Tessco have these


 custom

  
 cables in a variety of lengths, but what a pain in the tail!

 Thanks for the information.  I've got some more reading to do before we
 decide on deploying these radios or just to punt them on EBay.

 Best,


 Brad


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann
 Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:34 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and


 feedback...

  
 On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 12:32 -0600, Brad Belton wrote:



 Hello,

 We've inherited a DragonWave Air-Pair radio set and I'm looking for any
 feedback from those that have deployed these.  The good, bad and ugly.


  
 We have a few Horizon Compact links.  They've done very well except for
 when we get weird high/low pressure systems that result in a layer of
 fog in our valley that sits at about ~150ft.  The DW engineer called the
 effect ducting.  We enabled AAM in an attempt to counter the affects,
 but the AAM code was apparently buggy in the version we had.  So instead
 of stabilizing the link, it made it much, much worse.  So make sure you
 get the latest firmware if you can.




 We'll probably need new cable sets for each end as well, so to any
 DragonWave vendors on the list please feel free to send me an email with
 prices on cable length options.


  
 The Horizon Compact units have unfriendly ethernet connectors as well.
 Something along the lines of this...

 http://www.connecticc.com/default.aspx?page=item%
 20detailitemcode=JTRJ45-12NXL




 I sure hope their new Horizon radios don't require these BS

Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

2010-02-16 Thread Randy Cosby
Since your unit is out of warranty anyway...

If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet port 
inside it, as well as a power port, connected to that proprietary plug.  
We replaced that with a Pacific Wireless RJ45 ethernet connector system 
- http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/RJ45-ECS_datasheet-v2.pdf  
and peeled the power off that.  We were then able to push power + 
ethernet up on one cable.



On 2/16/2010 6:31 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
 Hello Kristian,

 Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too small
 for an armored outdoor CAT5 cable.  It's a shame the product engineers some
 manufacturers use/have to design their products are so imperceptive of basic
 field requirements.

 The inherited DragonWave AirPair radios that we're contemplating using on a
 job have the proprietary round DIN style plug attached to a custom
 DragonWave bundled cable.  It looks like Hutton and Tessco have these custom
 cables in a variety of lengths, but what a pain in the tail!

 Thanks for the information.  I've got some more reading to do before we
 decide on deploying these radios or just to punt them on EBay.

 Best,


 Brad


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann
 Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:34 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

 On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 12:32 -0600, Brad Belton wrote:

 Hello,

 We've inherited a DragonWave Air-Pair radio set and I'm looking for any
 feedback from those that have deployed these.  The good, bad and ugly.
  
 We have a few Horizon Compact links.  They've done very well except for
 when we get weird high/low pressure systems that result in a layer of
 fog in our valley that sits at about ~150ft.  The DW engineer called the
 effect ducting.  We enabled AAM in an attempt to counter the affects,
 but the AAM code was apparently buggy in the version we had.  So instead
 of stabilizing the link, it made it much, much worse.  So make sure you
 get the latest firmware if you can.


 We'll probably need new cable sets for each end as well, so to any
 DragonWave vendors on the list please feel free to send me an email with
 prices on cable length options.
  
 The Horizon Compact units have unfriendly ethernet connectors as well.
 Something along the lines of this...

 http://www.connecticc.com/default.aspx?page=item%
 20detailitemcode=JTRJ45-12NXL


 I sure hope their new Horizon radios don't require these BS proprietary
 cables like the Air-Pair radios.  What a pain in the tail...
  


 -Kristian




 
 
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[WISPA] Phonetic alphabet...

2010-02-16 Thread Randy Cosby
Last week my partner walked up to the front desk to hear our 
receptionist trying to be one of the boys by reading out the spelling 
of a word using the phonetic alphabet (ie: alpha, tango, foxtrot).

Butterfly, Butterfly, Lettuce is all he heard before he had to turn 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

2010-02-16 Thread Randy Cosby
We don't have it up yet (another long story - but we won't buy another 
used Dragonwave on Ebay), but they will be pretty short runs.   I would 
think you should be able to get up to 300ft without a problem.

Randy


On 2/16/2010 12:33 PM, Brad Belton wrote:
 Hello Randy,

 Ha!  Very interesting.  How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each side
 of the link?  At what power level do you have the radios set to?

 Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way
 inside to the outdoor designed IDU.  This would limit the length of the
 proprietary cables to a minimum.  The question I have if we do this is:
 Will the outdoor IDU be able to power  operate the ODU over the 50'-200' of
 LMR400 we may need rather than the 3'-4' of LMR400 it was intended to do?

 Thanks for the feedback!

 Best,


 Brad


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Randy Cosby
 Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:32 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback...

 Since your unit is out of warranty anyway...

 If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet port
 inside it, as well as a power port, connected to that proprietary plug.
 We replaced that with a Pacific Wireless RJ45 ethernet connector system
 - http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/RJ45-ECS_datasheet-v2.pdf
 and peeled the power off that.  We were then able to push power +
 ethernet up on one cable.



 On 2/16/2010 6:31 AM, Brad Belton wrote:

 Hello Kristian,

 Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too
  
 small

 for an armored outdoor CAT5 cable.  It's a shame the product engineers
  
 some

 manufacturers use/have to design their products are so imperceptive of
  
 basic

 field requirements.

 The inherited DragonWave AirPair radios that we're contemplating using on
  
 a

 job have the proprietary round DIN style plug attached to a custom
 DragonWave bundled cable.  It looks like Hutton and Tessco have these
  
 custom

 cables in a variety of lengths, but what a pain in the tail!

 Thanks for the information.  I've got some more reading to do before we
 decide on deploying these radios or just to punt them on EBay.

 Best,


 Brad


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann
 Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:34 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and
  
 feedback...

 On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 12:32 -0600, Brad Belton wrote:

  
 Hello,

 We've inherited a DragonWave Air-Pair radio set and I'm looking for any
 feedback from those that have deployed these.  The good, bad and ugly.


 We have a few Horizon Compact links.  They've done very well except for
 when we get weird high/low pressure systems that result in a layer of
 fog in our valley that sits at about ~150ft.  The DW engineer called the
 effect ducting.  We enabled AAM in an attempt to counter the affects,
 but the AAM code was apparently buggy in the version we had.  So instead
 of stabilizing the link, it made it much, much worse.  So make sure you
 get the latest firmware if you can.


  
 We'll probably need new cable sets for each end as well, so to any
 DragonWave vendors on the list please feel free to send me an email with
 prices on cable length options.


 The Horizon Compact units have unfriendly ethernet connectors as well.
 Something along the lines of this...

 http://www.connecticc.com/default.aspx?page=item%
 20detailitemcode=JTRJ45-12NXL


  
 I sure hope their new Horizon radios don't require these BS proprietary
 cables like the Air-Pair radios.  What a pain in the tail...



 -Kristian





  
 

 
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Re: [WISPA] 11Ghz BH comparison-

2010-02-11 Thread Randy Cosby
The one I have up works fine.  There are quirks in the firmware, but no 
show-stoppers.  Inband management is still a work in progress.  Don't 
particularly care for the fiber port cover design, but if you're using 
copper, it's fine (unless you use extra-large / heavy ethernet that may 
not fit).

Randy


On 2/11/2010 4:28 PM, Luke Pack wrote:
 We have quite a few Dragon wave 11Ghz links deployed right now.  We are
 looking at another path of 11Ghz now and have come across the apex
 system by Trango.  We use the Trangolink45s on many links off the
 licensed path currently.  I'm looking for people's real-world
 experience with the Trango Apex  system (since they are relatively new)
 and a contrast of this system to the Horizon Compacts from Dragonwave.
 I know their implementation is similar to that of the horizon units
 however, what seems to be the Apex failure rate, software features,
 hitless adaptive modulation success, etc.

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Re: [WISPA] 11Ghz BH comparison-

2010-02-11 Thread Randy Cosby
Luke,

You might also want to take a look at the SAF Teknica (sp?) 11Ghz links. 
I think there are a couple distributors who sell them now, including 
3-db.net.  They are very big in Europe and many other countries, and I 
believe a couple people on the list have some and are quite happy with 
them.  If I recall correctly, 3-db was also offering some extended 
warranties on them that were pretty crazy good.

Ligowave has a new 11ghz unit out too, their second attempt in the 
licensed space.  They are split-units though, and I'll be waiting until 
I hear from other guinea pigs before I order one.  I was disappointed 
last time around when they didn't ship after waiting way too long.

Randy


On 2/11/2010 4:28 PM, Luke Pack wrote:
 We have quite a few Dragon wave 11Ghz links deployed right now.  We are
 looking at another path of 11Ghz now and have come across the apex
 system by Trango.  We use the Trangolink45s on many links off the
 licensed path currently.  I'm looking for people's real-world
 experience with the Trango Apex  system (since they are relatively new)
 and a contrast of this system to the Horizon Compacts from Dragonwave.
 I know their implementation is similar to that of the horizon units
 however, what seems to be the Apex failure rate, software features,
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Re: [WISPA] Google to build ultra-fast broadband networks

2010-02-10 Thread Randy Cosby
One other factor to consider.  On Google's existing fiber nets, how much 
of that traffic is outbound, how much is inbound?  Likely they are a 
mirror image of our usage.  They have tons of extra capacity available 
on the inbound side just waiting to be used.


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Re: [WISPA] Google to build ultra-fast broadband networks

2010-02-10 Thread Randy Cosby
 as
 last
 reported..  But still, just a bunch of friendly helpful guys out to
 give
 it all away for free!

 Bob-



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 Subject: [WISPA] Google to build ultra-fast broadband networks

 Google to build ultra-fast broadband networks

 WASHINGTON - Google plans to build experimental, ultra-fast Internet
 networks in a handful of communities around the country.

 The search company said Wednesday that its fiber-optic broadband
 networks will deliver speeds of 1 gigabit per second to as many as
 500,000 Americans. Google Inc. says those systems will be more than
 100 times faster than the networks that most Americans have access to
 today.

 In a blog post, the company said the networks will let consumers
 download a high-definition, full-length feature film in less than five
 minutes and allow rural health clinics to send 3-D medical images over
 the Web.

 Google says it will seek input from communities that might be
 interested in getting one of the testbed networks.

 end of article

 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100210/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_google_broadband_netw
 ork

 sounds very dot commy to me:
 Best price on a 1G pipe is about 1K-5K within a NOC.  I wonder how you
 make money giving it away?

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Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show

2010-02-04 Thread Randy Cosby
 is that WISPA will be featured prominently in the promotional efforts,
 we will provide the educational tracks for the wireless broadband
 section of the show and we will have considerable influence on what
 events, speakers and specialized sessions (ISP-CEO type discussions)
 will be conducted as part of the show.   We will also be able to
 re-start the WISPA awards and present them at the show.There was
 also a discussion about substantial discounts for WISPA members to
 attend - enough to highly incentivise attendees to join WISPA before
  
 the
  
 show.
 Rather than putting on our own show, we will play a large part in this
 show.   There will still be a lot of work to be done, and I will share
 details after we get them worked out with the promoters.
 Any questions or concerns, please submit them on the list and we can
  
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Re: [WISPA] LigoWave PTP MiMo Radios

2010-01-28 Thread Randy Cosby
I don't think they exist in the sales channel yet, just with some beta 
testers.


On 1/28/2010 9:29 AM, Bobby Burrow wrote:
 Anyone have any experience/comments about these units:

 LigoPTP 5-N MiMo
 LigoPTP 5-23 MiMo

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Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

2010-01-18 Thread Randy Cosby
Thanks Scott.

If we can't get this one fixed, I'll be placing an order soon.

Randy


On 1/18/2010 9:04 AM, Scott Parsons wrote:
 Those turbine can operate open loop so the controller just disconnects the 
 battery from the turbine when the battery is fully charged.
 It doesn't hurt the turbine to operate with no load.
 Regards,
 Scott

 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Randy Cosby
 Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 7:39 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

 What does happen when the battery is fully charged if you do not have a dump 
 load with the tycon turbines?

 Scott Parsonssc...@e-zy.net  wrote:


 Randy,

 You don't need a dump load with the Tycon Power Systems turbines. It's
 just an option. Some folks like to dump any extra power (after the
 batteries are fully charged) off to a heater or other load.

 Scott

 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Chuck Profito
 Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 10:33 AM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

 Has anybody used Swift 's ?  quiet and small but I have no idea how
 they hold up in extreme weather.
 But I think the one that's coming on hard is Flow Design's.  Way too
 big for us now, but if they ever get their head out of the clouds, they
 could be a real contender for small home and commercial turbines.
 IMHO, Keep a close eye on this one.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Randy Cosby
 Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 9:12 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

 Good feedback.  The air breeze came off the mountain just before I left
 for AF, so I haven't taken it apart yet.  Smelled a bit toasty though.

 Anyone tried the Tycon Power systems turbine yet?  Obviously will need
 an external controller and load dump.

 Randy


 On 1/15/2010 9:59 AM, MDK wrote:
  
 I've used the Air-X and had it survive many storms and winds of 60-80.

 I changed to Air Breeze because SWWP suggested that it would charge
 better in low winds, and the circuit board was not prone to die every
 year to 18 months.

 My Air Breeze failed repeatedly - it never lasted more than 45 days.

 Each
  
 time the insides totally melted down, into a toxic mess.   Each time a

 storm
  
 came through it failed - the Air-X is nothing like that.I just

 reverted
  
 back to Air-X, because SWWP got tired of replacing it for me and gave
 me a new Air-X instead of fixing my Breeze.

 What kind of power requirements do you have?I've seen a couple of

 others
  
 that might serve you, as well.I don't' have time at the moment to look
 them up.They're all considerably smaller than the Air-X in power

 output.
  




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 Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:19 PM
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] wind turbine



 Anyone using wind turbines in high-wind areas?  We had a Southwest
 wind power AirBreeze get shredded - probably 80+mph winds.  Are 5 or
 6-blade turbines going to handle high wind better?

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Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

2010-01-18 Thread Randy Cosby
Got the AirBreeze unit apart this morning.  As my kids would say... Epic 
Fail!

Pics at:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=50531id=1316265262l=23eec98a22



On 1/18/2010 9:11 AM, Randy Cosby wrote:
 Thanks Scott.

 If we can't get this one fixed, I'll be placing an order soon.

 Randy


 On 1/18/2010 9:04 AM, Scott Parsons wrote:

 Those turbine can operate open loop so the controller just disconnects the 
 battery from the turbine when the battery is fully charged.
 It doesn't hurt the turbine to operate with no load.
 Regards,
 Scott

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Randy Cosby
 Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 7:39 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

 What does happen when the battery is fully charged if you do not have a dump 
 load with the tycon turbines?

 Scott Parsonssc...@e-zy.net   wrote:


  
 Randy,

 You don't need a dump load with the Tycon Power Systems turbines. It's
 just an option. Some folks like to dump any extra power (after the
 batteries are fully charged) off to a heater or other load.

 Scott

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Chuck Profito
 Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 10:33 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

 Has anybody used Swift 's ?  quiet and small but I have no idea how
 they hold up in extreme weather.
 But I think the one that's coming on hard is Flow Design's.  Way too
 big for us now, but if they ever get their head out of the clouds, they
 could be a real contender for small home and commercial turbines.
 IMHO, Keep a close eye on this one.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Randy Cosby
 Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 9:12 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

 Good feedback.  The air breeze came off the mountain just before I left
 for AF, so I haven't taken it apart yet.  Smelled a bit toasty though.

 Anyone tried the Tycon Power systems turbine yet?  Obviously will need
 an external controller and load dump.

 Randy


 On 1/15/2010 9:59 AM, MDK wrote:


 I've used the Air-X and had it survive many storms and winds of 60-80.

 I changed to Air Breeze because SWWP suggested that it would charge
 better in low winds, and the circuit board was not prone to die every
 year to 18 months.

 My Air Breeze failed repeatedly - it never lasted more than 45 days.

  
 Each


 time the insides totally melted down, into a toxic mess.   Each time a

  
 storm


 came through it failed - the Air-X is nothing like that.I just

  
 reverted


 back to Air-X, because SWWP got tired of replacing it for me and gave
 me a new Air-X instead of fixing my Breeze.

 What kind of power requirements do you have?I've seen a couple of

  
 others


 that might serve you, as well.I don't' have time at the moment to look
 them up.They're all considerably smaller than the Air-X in power

  
 output.





 --
 From: Randy Cosbydco...@infowest.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:19 PM
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] wind turbine



  
 Anyone using wind turbines in high-wind areas?  We had a Southwest
 wind power AirBreeze get shredded - probably 80+mph winds.  Are 5 or
 6-blade turbines going to handle high wind better?

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Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

2010-01-15 Thread Randy Cosby
Good feedback.  The air breeze came off the mountain just before I left 
for AF, so I haven't taken it apart yet.  Smelled a bit toasty though.

Anyone tried the Tycon Power systems turbine yet?  Obviously will need 
an external controller and load dump.

Randy


On 1/15/2010 9:59 AM, MDK wrote:
 I've used the Air-X and had it survive many storms and winds of 60-80.

 I changed to Air Breeze because SWWP suggested that it would charge better
 in low winds, and the circuit board was not prone to die every year to 18
 months.

 My Air Breeze failed repeatedly - it never lasted more than 45 days.Each
 time the insides totally melted down, into a toxic mess.   Each time a storm
 came through it failed - the Air-X is nothing like that.I just reverted
 back to Air-X, because SWWP got tired of replacing it for me and gave me a
 new Air-X instead of fixing my Breeze.

 What kind of power requirements do you have?I've seen a couple of others
 that might serve you, as well.I don't' have time at the moment to look
 them up.They're all considerably smaller than the Air-X in power output.





 --
 From: Randy Cosbydco...@infowest.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:19 PM
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] wind turbine


 Anyone using wind turbines in high-wind areas?  We had a Southwest wind
 power AirBreeze get shredded - probably 80+mph winds.  Are 5 or 6-blade
 turbines going to handle high wind better?

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 Vice President
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 435-674-0165 x 2010

 http://www.infowest.com/

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Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

2010-01-15 Thread Randy Cosby
What does happen when the battery is fully charged if you do not have a dump 
load with the tycon turbines?

Scott Parsons sc...@e-zy.net wrote:

Randy,

You don't need a dump load with the Tycon Power Systems turbines. It's just
an option. Some folks like to dump any extra power (after the batteries are
fully charged) off to a heater or other load.

Scott

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Profito
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 10:33 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

Has anybody used Swift 's ?  quiet and small but I have no idea how they
hold up in extreme weather.  
But I think the one that's coming on hard is Flow Design's.  Way too big for
us now, but if they ever get their head out of the clouds, they could be a
real contender for small home and commercial turbines.  IMHO, Keep a close
eye on this one.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 9:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

Good feedback.  The air breeze came off the mountain just before I left 
for AF, so I haven't taken it apart yet.  Smelled a bit toasty though.

Anyone tried the Tycon Power systems turbine yet?  Obviously will need 
an external controller and load dump.

Randy


On 1/15/2010 9:59 AM, MDK wrote:
 I've used the Air-X and had it survive many storms and winds of 60-80.

 I changed to Air Breeze because SWWP suggested that it would charge better
 in low winds, and the circuit board was not prone to die every year to 18
 months.

 My Air Breeze failed repeatedly - it never lasted more than 45 days.
Each
 time the insides totally melted down, into a toxic mess.   Each time a
storm
 came through it failed - the Air-X is nothing like that.I just
reverted
 back to Air-X, because SWWP got tired of replacing it for me and gave me a
 new Air-X instead of fixing my Breeze.

 What kind of power requirements do you have?I've seen a couple of
others
 that might serve you, as well.I don't' have time at the moment to look
 them up.They're all considerably smaller than the Air-X in power
output.





 --
 From: Randy Cosbydco...@infowest.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:19 PM
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] wind turbine


 Anyone using wind turbines in high-wind areas?  We had a Southwest wind
 power AirBreeze get shredded - probably 80+mph winds.  Are 5 or 6-blade
 turbines going to handle high wind better?

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 Vice President
 InfoWest, Inc

 435-674-0165 x 2010

 http://www.infowest.com/

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[WISPA] wind turbine

2010-01-14 Thread Randy Cosby
Anyone using wind turbines in high-wind areas?  We had a Southwest wind 
power AirBreeze get shredded - probably 80+mph winds.  Are 5 or 6-blade 
turbines going to handle high wind better?

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Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-12 Thread Randy Cosby
Do you want to do MPLS in the future?

On 1/11/2010 10:24 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote:
 Need to upgrade several 10/100 switches to 10/100/100; I'm looking for 
 recommendations on good reliable equipment.  Will need 24 and 48 port units, 
 Rx/Tx port mirroring is a must!

 Thanks in advance,
 Scott



 
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[WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

2010-01-12 Thread Randy Cosby
Just put up our first Apex 11Ghz link.  Wondering what everyone does to 
seal up that port.  The manual says you have to hook up the fiber / 
power port to metal conduit.  Do you run conduit all the way back to the 
base?  Do you just use a short piece? Do you put a compression fitting 
on the end?  Use flex?  Just curious.

I used a threaded metal 3/4 sweep 90, then capped it off with a Trango 
AP compression fitting.  It's a little heavy though, and I worry about 
the little screws that hold the 3/4 threaded base plate getting 
stripped out.

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Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

2010-01-12 Thread Randy Cosby
 to metal conduit.  Do you run conduit all the way back to the
 base?  Do you just use a short piece? Do you put a compression fitting
 on the end?  Use flex?  Just curious.

 I used a threaded metal 3/4 sweep 90, then capped it off with a Trango
 AP compression fitting.  It's a little heavy though, and I worry about
 the little screws that hold the 3/4 threaded base plate getting
 stripped out.

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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-06 Thread Randy Cosby
I got the Samsung moment on Sprint.  Love it.


On 1/6/2010 5:26 PM, Matt Hardy wrote:
 There are quite a few Android based devices :
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Android_devices

 I think I even saw a netbook yesterday that came preloaded with Android
 and XP setup in a dual-boot configuration.

 I had the G1 on TMobile, now have the HTC Hero. I've been happy with
 both, but now I'm intrigued by the actual Google Phone made my
 Google :)

 The Nexus One Phone :
 http://www.google.com/phone

 -Matt

 On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 19:04 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Tmobile has G1 and the new HTC.  Verizon has the Droid.  Is that all
 of Google's phones at this point?

 On 1/6/10, Aaron D. Osgoodaosg...@streamline-solutions.net  wrote:
  
 The Android OS doesn't care what the wireless technology is tied to the
 device. There are Android based devices available for GSM and CDMA. There is
 one soon to be released for iDEN networks as well

 Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect

 -Original Message-
 From: Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:53:30
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

 Droid is VZ only.  Your G1 runs Android software.

 //corrections

 On 1/6/10, Travis Johnsont...@ida.net  wrote:

 The droid has been available for months... I think I've had mine for 6
 months... it's called the G1 from Tmobile... (except I use it on ATT).

 Travis
 Microserv

 ccrum wrote:
  
 Yep...waited on the Droid myselfawesome. And I can write my own apps
 without jailbreaking.

 Cameron

 Jack Unger wrote:


 Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest consumer
 gadget.

 If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush
 out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !

 http://www.flixxy.com/sumsing-turbo-3000-cellphone.htm




  


 
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Re: [WISPA] 2010: One Question for WISPs

2010-01-04 Thread Randy Cosby
B

As far as the market goes, technology advances, costs, etc. goes, I'm 
much more optimistic.  As far as interference with free-markets (stuff 
largely out of my control), I'm much more cautious.

Randy

On 1/4/2010 10:34 AM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:
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 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
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 Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 08:47:01
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] 2010: One Question for WISPs

 Happy New Year folks. One simple multiple choice question:

 For 2010, are you more or less optimistic than you were in 2009?

 A - Much more
 B - Somewhat more
 C - Same
 D - More pessimistic

 If you'd care to explain your answer, that's be great.

 Thank,

 Patrick


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