Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule

2005-08-08 Thread David Ellis
from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: WISPA General List Sent: Fri Aug 05 20:45:04 2005 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule I have some experience at 6, 11, 13, 18 & 23 GHz, more at 6, 11 &13.

Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule

2005-08-06 Thread John Thomas
Lonnie, it would not be unreasonable to allow 2' or larger dishes. I don't think anyone here is thinking about real short shots. John Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: APC is useless if the antennas are not aimed properly or the distance is excessive for the antenna gain. These conditions will cause

Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule

2005-08-06 Thread John Thomas
This is a fantastic idea. I have a situation where I need to make a 24 mile shot, and the tower owner already has 5 Ghz stuff on it and is reluctant to let me put 5 GHz equipment up. 6 GHz would be sweet, but I could probably use antennas smaller than 6 ft. John Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2

Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule

2005-08-06 Thread A. Huppenthal
t;WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule Marlon and Lonnie, First Off, Lonnie I fully agree with your point that we should not suggest rules that discourage good design or make it to easy to do poor designs. However

Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule

2005-08-06 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
> 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) > > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Tom DeReggi" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "WISPA General List" >

Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule

2005-08-06 Thread A. Huppenthal
2 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule Marlon and Lonn

Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule

2005-08-06 Thread A. Huppenthal
-- Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna ru

RE: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule

2005-08-05 Thread JNA
talking about unlicenced redline or > > Trango :-) > > > > Tom DeReggi > > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181&q

Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule

2005-08-05 Thread Ron Wallace
Fri, 5 Aug 2005 17:03:55 -0700 >From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule >To: "WISPA General List" > >Last I heard a guy could get a Harris system (both ends, just radios) for a >

Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule

2005-08-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6

RE: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule

2005-08-05 Thread JohnnyO
ent: Friday, August 05, 2005 5:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule Tom, I had to go and read where I said we don't need more spectrum. Sadly I cannot find that statement. I did, however, say that we must learn to use what we have before we should be g

Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule

2005-08-05 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
t; > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 11:50 AM > Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule

2005-08-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule I think you guys are wrong on this. This is still a ptp band

Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule

2005-08-05 Thread Ron Wallace
Yep, the larger the aperture, the more narrow the beam, the higher the gain. beam,Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 18:08:48 -0700 >From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule >To: "WISPA General List" &

Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule

2005-08-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
essage - From: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule APC is useless if the antennas are not aimed properly or the distance is excessive for the antenna

Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule

2005-08-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
et meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Rick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 4:39 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule I'm in favor

RE: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule

2005-08-05 Thread Rick Smith
EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 12:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule APC is useless if the antennas are not aimed properly or the distance is excessive for the antenna gain. These conditions

Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule

2005-08-05 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I agree with Lonnie. Kurt Fankhauser WaveLinc www.wavelinc.com 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 > APC is useless if the antennas are not aimed properly or the distance > is excessive for the antenna gain. These conditions will cause the > transmitters to pump out full volume,

Re: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule

2005-08-04 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
APC is useless if the antennas are not aimed properly or the distance is excessive for the antenna gain. These conditions will cause the transmitters to pump out full volume, and if the antennas are your lower gain variety that means spraying noise everywhere. I would recommend leaving the nice t

RE: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule

2005-08-04 Thread Rick Smith
: Thursday, August 04, 2005 7:37 PM To: FCC Discussion Cc: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule Hi All, For those that don't know, the 6 gig band is licensed ptp only. It's a pretty cheap license and you can get a LOT of throughput for very long distances. For

[WISPA] 6 foot 6ghz antenna rule

2005-08-04 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Hi All, For those that don't know, the 6 gig band is licensed ptp only. It's a pretty cheap license and you can get a LOT of throughput for very long distances. For short (less than 50 miles :-) the 6' antenna requirement often kills the deal because of size limits on what towers can handle