Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable

[Jeff Evans]

http://www.xpresstags.com/Plastic-Tags/Caution-Fiber-Optic-Cable/SKU-TG-1295.aspx?engine=googlebase&keyword=Plastic+PVC+Tags&skuid=TG-1295-TG-1295&gclid=Cj0KEQjw0rm-BRCn85bm8uS-zK0BEiQAHo4vrFzu32MXpASP3TP90zclv7I4q3ivqLsA-r7A2XrvCdgaAmii8P8HAQ

http://www.almetek.com/our-products/our-products/phase-markers


On 9/6/2016 9:54 AM, Scott Carullo wrote:
I consider myself a decent google searcher :)   Unable to find what I 
am looking for (just tried again adding uline to the criteria).
I may have to post to fiber list I think its more tailored to their 
industry...

*Scott Carullo*
Technical Operations
Florida High Speed Internet
(321) 205-1100 x102
<http://twitter.com/flhsi>
<https://twitter.com/flhsi><https://facebook.com/flhighspeed>

*From*: "Jeff Evans" 
*Sent*: Friday, September 02, 2016 5:30 PM
*To*: "WISPA General List" 
*Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around 
cable

Uline, dumb phone.
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message 
From: Jeff Evans 
Date: 9/2/16 4:21 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable
Urine, Google cable tags or labels there's hundreds of them
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message 
From: Scott Reed 
Date: 9/2/16 4:04 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: sc...@flhsi.com, WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable

I would expect Panduit does similar.  Check with your local electrical 
supply house.


On 9/2/2016 1:25 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
maybe half inch hole in the middle you can put them around cable up 
to that size - like a fiber or ethernet cable.  The plastic flexes 
and they can be used outside.  Who uses them and where do you get 
them from etc having hard time locating what I want.

Like this - just need a little smaller
http://www.safetysign.com/products/p29327/fiber-optic-cable-marker
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Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable

[Scott Carullo]

I consider myself a decent google searcher :)   Unable to find what I am 
looking for (just tried again adding uline to the criteria).
  
 I may have to post to fiber list I think its more tailored to their 
industry...
  
   Scott Carullo
 Technical Operations
 Florida High Speed Internet
 (321) 205-1100 x102

  

  
  

  


 From: "Jeff Evans" 
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 5:30 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable  
 
 Uline, dumb phone.
  
  
  
  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

  
   Original message 
 From: Jeff Evans 
 Date: 9/2/16 4:21 PM (GMT-05:00)
 To: WISPA General List 
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around 
cable
  

 Urine, Google cable tags or labels there's hundreds of them
  
  
  
  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

  
   Original message 
 From: Scott Reed 
 Date: 9/2/16 4:04 PM (GMT-05:00)
 To: sc...@flhsi.com, WISPA General List 
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around 
cable
  

I would expect Panduit does similar.  Check with your local electrical 
supply house.On 9/2/2016 1:25 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
  maybe half inch hole in the middle you can put them around cable up to 
that size - like a fiber or ethernet cable.  The plastic flexes and they 
can be used outside.  Who uses them and where do you get them from etc 
having hard time locating what I want.
  
 Like this - just need a little smaller
  
 http://www.safetysign.com/products/p29327/fiber-optic-cable-marker
 Scott Carullo
   Technical Operations
   Florida High Speed Internet
   (321) 205-1100 x102








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Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable

[Jeff Evans]

Uline, dumb phone.


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Jeff Evans  Date: 
9/2/16  4:21 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List  
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable 
Urine, Google cable tags or labels there's hundreds of them


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Scott Reed 
 Date: 9/2/16  4:04 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
sc...@flhsi.com, WISPA General List  Subject: Re: [WISPA] 
Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable 

I would expect Panduit does similar.  Check with your local
  electrical supply house.




On 9/2/2016 1:25 PM, Scott Carullo
  wrote:



maybe half inch hole in the middle you can put them around
  cable up to that size - like a fiber or ethernet cable.  The
  plastic flexes and they can be used outside.  Who uses them
  and where do you get them from etc having hard time locating
  what I want.
 
Like this - just need a little smaller
 
http://www.safetysign.com/products/p29327/fiber-optic-cable-marker
 
  Scott Carullo
  Technical Operations
  Florida High Speed Internet
  (321) 205-1100 x102
  
   
  
   
   

  
  

  
  

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Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable

[Jeff Evans]

Urine, Google cable tags or labels there's hundreds of them


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Scott Reed 
 Date: 9/2/16  4:04 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
sc...@flhsi.com, WISPA General List  Subject: Re: [WISPA] 
Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable 

I would expect Panduit does similar.  Check with your local
  electrical supply house.




On 9/2/2016 1:25 PM, Scott Carullo
  wrote:



maybe half inch hole in the middle you can put them around
  cable up to that size - like a fiber or ethernet cable.  The
  plastic flexes and they can be used outside.  Who uses them
  and where do you get them from etc having hard time locating
  what I want.
 
Like this - just need a little smaller
 
http://www.safetysign.com/products/p29327/fiber-optic-cable-marker
 
  Scott Carullo
  Technical Operations
  Florida High Speed Internet
  (321) 205-1100 x102
  
   
  
   
   

  
  

  
  

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Re: [WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable

[Scott Reed]

I would expect Panduit does similar.  Check with your local electrical 
supply house.



On 9/2/2016 1:25 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
maybe half inch hole in the middle you can put them around cable up to 
that size - like a fiber or ethernet cable.  The plastic flexes and 
they can be used outside.  Who uses them and where do you get them 
from etc having hard time locating what I want.

Like this - just need a little smaller
http://www.safetysign.com/products/p29327/fiber-optic-cable-marker
*Scott Carullo*
Technical Operations
Florida High Speed Internet
(321) 205-1100 x102




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[WISPA] Cable labels plastic with slot that wrap around cable

[Scott Carullo]

maybe half inch hole in the middle you can put them around cable up to that 
size - like a fiber or ethernet cable.  The plastic flexes and they can be 
used outside.  Who uses them and where do you get them from etc having hard 
time locating what I want.
  
 Like this - just need a little smaller
  
 http://www.safetysign.com/products/p29327/fiber-optic-cable-marker
   Scott Carullo
 Technical Operations
 Florida High Speed Internet
 (321) 205-1100 x102

  

  
  


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[WISPA] Cable for sale

[Scott Reed]

I have the following lengths of LMR equivalent cable for sale.  It is 
all from Shireen so it is RFC400 or RFC600.
The used 400 was installed in water towers and so only on end has been 
in the weather. Most of it has N-Male and
N-Female Bulkhead connectors.
The 600 is all new, end of spool tails, no connectors.

RFC 400
Used
172'
164'
156'
166'
155'
160'
162'
164'
164'
162'
117'
162'
New
756' on spool

RFC 600
New
65'
38'
26'
26'
15'
15'
24'
24'
20'
30'
30'
33'
44'

Make an offer on any or all of it.  Shipping will be our actual cost, 
prefer UPS.

-- 
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Owner
NewWays Networking, LLC
Wireless Networking
Network Design, Installation and Administration
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Re: [WISPA] Cable Testers

[Faisal Imtiaz]

If you are not looking to certify cable or for anything fancy, to check 
continuity, wire map, and cable length . 

Search of SC8108 on ebay These are in-expensive and get the job done. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -

> From: "Mark Spring" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:11:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable Testers

> basic wire testing, anything more advanced would be a bonus so we are just
> weighing cost options to see if it would be worth the upgrade to get
> additional features. Maybe Ubiquiti should develop a meter that replaces the
> microscanner2(it looks looks nice) for 1/4 the price...i'd wait two years
> for that!

> Mark Spring
> Systems Analyst

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> 301 W. South St.
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> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Jay Weekley < par...@cyberbroadband.net >
> wrote:

> > What details are you looking for? I should get a new tester myself.
> 

> > Mark Spring wrote:
> 
> > > can anybody make any recommendations for cat5/cable testers they have
> 
> > > had good luck with? We had good luck with the testum(jdsu) testers but
> 
> > > apparently they were discontinued. We are looking at the micromapper
> 
> > > from fluke but something with a little more detail might help. Fluke
> 
> > > makes bigger brothers to the micromapper but they are a little more
> 
> > > than economical.
> 
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> 
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Re: [WISPA] Cable Testers

[Mark Spring]

basic wire testing, anything more advanced would be a bonus so we are just
weighing cost options to see if it would be worth the upgrade to get
additional features. Maybe Ubiquiti should develop a meter that replaces
the microscanner2(it looks looks nice) for 1/4 the price...i'd wait two
years for that!

Mark Spring
Systems Analyst

New Knoxville Telephone Company
301 W. South St.
New Knoxville, OH 45871
419.753.5000

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On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

> What details are you looking for? I should get a new tester myself.
>
> Mark Spring wrote:
> > can anybody make any recommendations for cat5/cable testers they have
> > had good luck with? We had good luck with the testum(jdsu) testers but
> > apparently they were discontinued. We are looking at the micromapper
> > from fluke but something with a little more detail might help. Fluke
> > makes bigger brothers to the micromapper but they are a little more
> > than economical.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark Spring
> > Systems Analyst
> >
> > New Knoxville Telephone Company
> > 301 W. South St.
> > New Knoxville, OH 45871
> > 419.753.5000
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Re: [WISPA] Cable Testers

[Josh Luthman]

I use a simple media tester.  It checks to make sure all the pairs have
continuity.  That's it.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Mark Spring  wrote:

> basic wire testing, anything more advanced would be a bonus so we are just
> weighing cost options to see if it would be worth the upgrade to get
> additional features. Maybe Ubiquiti should develop a meter that replaces
> the microscanner2(it looks looks nice) for 1/4 the price...i'd wait two
> years for that!
>
> Mark Spring
> Systems Analyst
>
> New Knoxville Telephone Company
> 301 W. South St.
> New Knoxville, OH 45871
> 419.753.5000
>
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>
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Jay Weekley 
> wrote:
>
>> What details are you looking for? I should get a new tester myself.
>>
>> Mark Spring wrote:
>> > can anybody make any recommendations for cat5/cable testers they have
>> > had good luck with? We had good luck with the testum(jdsu) testers but
>> > apparently they were discontinued. We are looking at the micromapper
>> > from fluke but something with a little more detail might help. Fluke
>> > makes bigger brothers to the micromapper but they are a little more
>> > than economical.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Mark Spring
>> > Systems Analyst
>> >
>> > New Knoxville Telephone Company
>> > 301 W. South St.
>> > New Knoxville, OH 45871
>> > 419.753.5000
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Re: [WISPA] Cable Testers

[Jay Weekley]

What details are you looking for? I should get a new tester myself.

Mark Spring wrote:
> can anybody make any recommendations for cat5/cable testers they have 
> had good luck with? We had good luck with the testum(jdsu) testers but 
> apparently they were discontinued. We are looking at the micromapper 
> from fluke but something with a little more detail might help. Fluke 
> makes bigger brothers to the micromapper but they are a little more 
> than economical.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark Spring
> Systems Analyst
>
> New Knoxville Telephone Company
> 301 W. South St.
> New Knoxville, OH 45871
> 419.753.5000
>
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Re: [WISPA] Cable Testers

[Eric Rogers]

We use the Fluke Microscanner2 as it will allow PoE and will test
without the other end being on.  You can see cable length, PoE, and if
there is a switch/Ethernet at the other end.

 

Eric Rogers

Precision Data Solutions, LLC

(317) 831-3000 x200

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Spring
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 10:49 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Cable Testers

 

can anybody make any recommendations for cat5/cable testers they have
had good luck with? We had good luck with the testum(jdsu) testers but
apparently they were discontinued. We are looking at the micromapper
from fluke but something with a little more detail might help. Fluke
makes bigger brothers to the micromapper but they are a little more than
economical. 

Thanks,



Mark Spring
Systems Analyst

New Knoxville Telephone Company
301 W. South St.
New Knoxville, OH 45871
419.753.5000

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[WISPA] Cable Testers

[Mark Spring]

can anybody make any recommendations for cat5/cable testers they have had
good luck with? We had good luck with the testum(jdsu) testers but
apparently they were discontinued. We are looking at the micromapper from
fluke but something with a little more detail might help. Fluke makes
bigger brothers to the micromapper but they are a little more than
economical.

Thanks,

Mark Spring
Systems Analyst

New Knoxville Telephone Company
301 W. South St.
New Knoxville, OH 45871
419.753.5000

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Re: [WISPA] Cable companies agree to nationwide Wi-Fi roaming deal, , Read more: Cable companies agree to nationwide Wi-Fi roaming deal - FierceWireless http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/cable-compa

[Ralph]

I have been involved with this for a while.

It is simply "Muni WiFi", but owned/operated/funded by the local cableco.
The cable companies have been stringing up strand-powered APs for a few
years along some of their routes. In underground areas they have some that
are mounted below the surface with the antenna mounted flat under the cover
to the enclosure.  Most of the rest look like cable amplifiers with a couple
of short (6") white plastic antennas. Some companies are using Cisco gear,
like the model 1522 but Bel Air Networks is Comcast's choice.  Comcast has
Philly done.  Optimum Cable and Time Warner have done lots of NY and NJ.
All this says is that, since cablecos are really not competitors in the same
market, why the heck not make a deal where they add each other's SSIDs on
all the networks.

The hope is that they will get lots of money for cellular offload of data
from phones over WiFi as the cell companies strike deals with the cablecos.
When I have tried the NY/NJ systems, I can use my Comcast cable login from
back in Georgia and I get around 1-7 Mb/S.  

For WISPS, the downside of this is that there are hundreds, if not thousands
of WiFi devices located at street level, most running maximum power and
transmitting on 2.4 and 5.7 GHz, thus raising the noise floor to tremendous
levels.  One project I am working on is a City surveillance camera network
and the noise from these now has the noise level on my rooftops up to
between -80 and -87 and any backhaul that was on 5.8 now is faced with worse
noise than that in the direction the dish is pointed.

ralph


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:13 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Cable companies agree to nationwide Wi-Fi roaming deal, ,
Read more: Cable companies agree to nationwide Wi-Fi roaming deal -
FierceWireless
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/cable-companies-agree-nationwide-wi-fi-r
oaming-deal/2012-05-21?utm_med




http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/cable-companies-agree-nationwide-wi-fi-r
oaming-deal/2012-05-21?utm_medium=rss&utm_source=rss

anybody can comment on this?

is it real 2.4Ghz or some form of "licensed-picocell" ?

Thank you


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[Gino Villarini]

Wifi is wifi is wifi...

2.4 and 5 ghz

Gino A. Villarini
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Subject: [WISPA] Cable companies agree to nationwide Wi-Fi roaming deal, , Read 
more: Cable companies agree to nationwide Wi-Fi roaming deal - FierceWireless 
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/cable-companies-agree-nationwide-wi-fi-roaming-deal/2012-05-21?utm_...




http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/cable-companies-agree-nationwide-wi-fi-roaming-deal/2012-05-21?utm_medium=rss&utm_source=rss

anybody can comment on this?

is it real 2.4Ghz or some form of "licensed-picocell" ?

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[WISPA] Cable companies agree to nationwide Wi-Fi roaming deal, , Read more: Cable companies agree to nationwide Wi-Fi roaming deal - FierceWireless http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/cable-companies

[Paolo Di Francesco]

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/cable-companies-agree-nationwide-wi-fi-roaming-deal/2012-05-21?utm_medium=rss&utm_source=rss

anybody can comment on this?

is it real 2.4Ghz or some form of "licensed-picocell" ?

Thank you


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Re: [WISPA] Cable CMTS

[Chris Gotstein]

You can also look at the Arris C3 CMTS, it's EOL'd, but you can get them 
refurbished.  I would also stick with Cisco if you can make it work, the 
uBR7246 is pretty reasonable on the refurb market.

On 11/8/2011 7:13 PM, Kevin Owen wrote:
> I think we would like the Cisco better as well… however I don’t believe
> they can bridge for the pppoe passthrough.  If they can then we will
> re-evaluate.
>
> Kevin
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> *On Behalf Of *Blake Covarrubias
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> We have an older C9...one of the first models I believe. We had issues
> with it & have since replaced it with a refurbished Cisco uBR7200. We
> like the Cisco much better.
>
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> On Nov 8, 2011, at 14:49, Kevin Owen  <mailto:ko...@fsr.com>> wrote:
>
> We are expanding our cable internet markets by acquisition. We are
> currently using C9 CMTS’s at the head end in each community. We
> chose these since we need to be able to bridge PPPoE for
> authentication. None of the communities are very large so we don’t
> need high customer count capabilities on the CMTS, what we do need
> is bridging.
>
> Is anybody using a small CMTS for their cable internet services
> other than a C9? We would be interested in exploring other options.
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Cable CMTS

[Kevin Owen]

I think we would like the Cisco better as well… however I don’t believe they 
can bridge for the pppoe passthrough.  If they can then we will re-evaluate.

Kevin


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Of Blake Covarrubias
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 5:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable CMTS

We have an older C9...one of the first models I believe. We had issues with it 
& have since replaced it with a refurbished Cisco uBR7200. We like the Cisco 
much better.

--
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On Nov 8, 2011, at 14:49, Kevin Owen mailto:ko...@fsr.com>> 
wrote:
We are expanding our cable internet markets by acquisition.  We are currently 
using C9 CMTS’s at the head end in each community.  We chose these since we 
need to be able to bridge PPPoE for authentication.  None of the communities 
are very large so we don’t need high customer count capabilities on the CMTS, 
what we do need is bridging.

Is anybody using a small CMTS for their cable internet services other than a 
C9?  We would be interested in exploring other options.

Thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] Cable CMTS

[Blake Covarrubias]

We have an older C9...one of the first models I believe. We had issues with it 
& have since replaced it with a refurbished Cisco uBR7200. We like the Cisco 
much better.

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On Nov 8, 2011, at 14:49, Kevin Owen  wrote:

> We are expanding our cable internet markets by acquisition.  We are currently 
> using C9 CMTS’s at the head end in each community.  We chose these since we 
> need to be able to bridge PPPoE for authentication.  None of the communities 
> are very large so we don’t need high customer count capabilities on the CMTS, 
> what we do need is bridging. 
>  
> Is anybody using a small CMTS for their cable internet services other than a 
> C9?  We would be interested in exploring other options.
>  
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[WISPA] Cable CMTS

[Kevin Owen]

We are expanding our cable internet markets by acquisition.  We are currently 
using C9 CMTS's at the head end in each community.  We chose these since we 
need to be able to bridge PPPoE for authentication.  None of the communities 
are very large so we don't need high customer count capabilities on the CMTS, 
what we do need is bridging.

Is anybody using a small CMTS for their cable internet services other than a 
C9?  We would be interested in exploring other options.

Thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] Cable Modem Install's

[D. Ryan Spott]

Does anyone here whitelabel VOX service?

I would like to test out a phone. Can I pay someone here for service for 
a bit?

Thanks!

ryan

Josh Luthman wrote:
> Good information, surprisingly, here:
>
> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080201071706AAUxIfs
>
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> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:51 PM, 3-dB Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Pardon my ignorance. but I am coming across the first time I will have to
>> do
>> a coax cable install across a building to install a modem (by customer
>> request).  I've actually been fortunate and never had to mess with cable TV
>> type installations (done plenty of LMR-400 coax work.)
>>
>>
>>
>> Cable termination will be on the bottom floor of a building.  To
>> consolidate
>> equipment with the wireless gear, customer wants me to run coax from that
>> box to the cabinet with the other switches, etc. in it.  I'm not sure what
>> the cable length is at the moment, but what is the max cable length of RG-6
>> or RG-11 for broadband internet?  What if I use an amp?
>>
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>> Any other sage advice would be welcome!
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Cable Modem Install's

[3-dB Networks]

I thought it was too... but it really isn't very specific to broadband
modems... so I don't know how much cable loss can they take (I wish I knew
what model number I was going to be hit with)

Daniel White
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> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable Modem Install's
> 
> Good information, surprisingly, here:
> 
> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080201071706AAUxIfs
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
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> 
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:51 PM, 3-dB Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Pardon my ignorance. but I am coming across the first time I will have
> to
> > do
> > a coax cable install across a building to install a modem (by customer
> > request).  I've actually been fortunate and never had to mess with cable
> TV
> > type installations (done plenty of LMR-400 coax work.)
> >
> >
> >
> > Cable termination will be on the bottom floor of a building.  To
> > consolidate
> > equipment with the wireless gear, customer wants me to run coax from
> that
> > box to the cabinet with the other switches, etc. in it.  I'm not sure
> what
> > the cable length is at the moment, but what is the max cable length of
> RG-6
> > or RG-11 for broadband internet?  What if I use an amp?
> >
> >
> >
> > Any other sage advice would be welcome!
> >
> > Daniel White
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Re: [WISPA] Cable Modem Install's

[Josh Luthman]

Good information, surprisingly, here:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080201071706AAUxIfs

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:51 PM, 3-dB Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Pardon my ignorance. but I am coming across the first time I will have to
> do
> a coax cable install across a building to install a modem (by customer
> request).  I've actually been fortunate and never had to mess with cable TV
> type installations (done plenty of LMR-400 coax work.)
>
>
>
> Cable termination will be on the bottom floor of a building.  To
> consolidate
> equipment with the wireless gear, customer wants me to run coax from that
> box to the cabinet with the other switches, etc. in it.  I'm not sure what
> the cable length is at the moment, but what is the max cable length of RG-6
> or RG-11 for broadband internet?  What if I use an amp?
>
>
>
> Any other sage advice would be welcome!
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
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[WISPA] Cable Modem Install's

[3-dB Networks]

Pardon my ignorance. but I am coming across the first time I will have to do
a coax cable install across a building to install a modem (by customer
request).  I've actually been fortunate and never had to mess with cable TV
type installations (done plenty of LMR-400 coax work.) 

 

Cable termination will be on the bottom floor of a building.  To consolidate
equipment with the wireless gear, customer wants me to run coax from that
box to the cabinet with the other switches, etc. in it.  I'm not sure what
the cable length is at the moment, but what is the max cable length of RG-6
or RG-11 for broadband internet?  What if I use an amp?

 

Any other sage advice would be welcome!

Daniel White
3-dB Networks

 




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Re: [WISPA] cable throughput

[Chuck McCown]

Yes, but don't tell 'em ;-)
They have been in the cat-bird seat all along and have fumbled repeatedly.

When they became CLECs and started selling dial tone, they invented a whole 
new layer to do it rather than adopt ISDN/DS0/IP-VOIP or other pre-existing 
telco methods.  I know telcos that bought CATV systems and actually put 
analog subscriber carrier phone systems on TV channels back in the late 
1970s.

And then they didn't pick up on long distance packages or equal access or 
any of the other features that telco subscribers are used to having.

If I had had a HFC cable system, you can bet FTTH would have been already 
deployed by now.
They cling to the technology that is unique to only CATV operators and for 
some reason have ignored the natural evolution of all things fiber.
And while they delay FTTH, the RBOCs are going to sail right past them and 
have all physical facilities based customers if they price it right.

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> They'd have a lot more bandwidth available for Internet and HD if they
> abandoned their analog services.  There are also more aggressive MPEG4
> systems out there that produce high quality images with less bandwidth 
> being
> used by IPTV companies.
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>> It's interesting to me that the cable companies who at present have some
>> of the fastest available consumer broadband speeds are actually shooting
>> themselves in the foot by giving the bandwidth to cable modems, but at
>> the same time running out of space for their  tv programming.
>>
>> Here's a decent article talking about HD and the complaints from it's
>> customers.
>> Notice the amount of bandwidth to deliver some HD channels.
>>
>> snip/
>> For example, Discovery's bit rate was 14.16 megabits per second on
>> Verizon's FiOS system but only 10.43 Mbps on Comcast; A&E HD was 18.66
>> Mbps on FiOS compared with 14.48 Mbps on Comcast. The FiOS system didn't
>> offer Sci Fi HD, which Fowler's testing showed at 12.59 Mbps on Comcast.
>>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080421/ap_on_hi_te/compressed_hd;_ylt=AuEPJDRe3CN7TvgY1hhBuN0jtBAF
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Re: [WISPA] cable throughput

[Mike Hammett]

They'd have a lot more bandwidth available for Internet and HD if they 
abandoned their analog services.  There are also more aggressive MPEG4 
systems out there that produce high quality images with less bandwidth being 
used by IPTV companies.


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> It's interesting to me that the cable companies who at present have some
> of the fastest available consumer broadband speeds are actually shooting
> themselves in the foot by giving the bandwidth to cable modems, but at
> the same time running out of space for their  tv programming.
>
> Here's a decent article talking about HD and the complaints from it's
> customers.
> Notice the amount of bandwidth to deliver some HD channels.
>
> snip/
> For example, Discovery's bit rate was 14.16 megabits per second on
> Verizon's FiOS system but only 10.43 Mbps on Comcast; A&E HD was 18.66
> Mbps on FiOS compared with 14.48 Mbps on Comcast. The FiOS system didn't
> offer Sci Fi HD, which Fowler's testing showed at 12.59 Mbps on Comcast.
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080421/ap_on_hi_te/compressed_hd;_ylt=AuEPJDRe3CN7TvgY1hhBuN0jtBAF
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[WISPA] cable throughput

[George]

It's interesting to me that the cable companies who at present have some 
of the fastest available consumer broadband speeds are actually shooting 
themselves in the foot by giving the bandwidth to cable modems, but at 
the same time running out of space for their  tv programming.

Here's a decent article talking about HD and the complaints from it's 
customers.
Notice the amount of bandwidth to deliver some HD channels.

snip/
For example, Discovery's bit rate was 14.16 megabits per second on 
Verizon's FiOS system but only 10.43 Mbps on Comcast; A&E HD was 18.66 
Mbps on FiOS compared with 14.48 Mbps on Comcast. The FiOS system didn't 
offer Sci Fi HD, which Fowler's testing showed at 12.59 Mbps on Comcast.

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Re: [WISPA] Cable Quote

[Marty Dougherty]

Yes about right for riser rated- we use www.fiber.com- 

Don't forget to put "lub" in the conduit- that's a long run

Marty



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Does $410 sound about right for this?

Fiber Jumper, 2-Count, Multi Mode, LC Connectors on both ends, 700'
Length, Price ea  *Includes Pulling Eye & Spool


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[WISPA] Cable Quote

[Mike Hammett]

Does $410 sound about right for this?

Fiber Jumper, 2-Count, Multi Mode, LC Connectors on both ends, 700' Length, 
Price ea  *Includes Pulling Eye & Spool


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Re: [WISPA] Cable network for Internet, VoIP and Video distribution

[Clint Ricker]

Javier,
If I'm understanding the question correctly, which is basically "Can I
send DOCSIS over IP networks (wireless or otherwise), the answer is
no.

If you think about it in terms of OSI model, it will become a little
clearer--the CMTS use a QAM to read the RF signal and pull the
Ethernet frames (this is layer one / layer two); your basically asking
if that information can be encapsulated inside of a layer-3 IP packet
(and the answer is no).

There are DOCSIS over wireless solutions (look at various "wireless
plant extensions" for more detail) that basically shove the RF out
over wireless instead of out the HFC plant, but that doesn't seem to
be what you're looking for...

What problem are you trying to solve?  I'm assuming there is some
reason why you aren't just using IP wireless links directly to the
customers

-Clint Ricker
Kentnis Technologies






On 9/25/07, Javier Arigita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The CMTS does have ethernet interface. The problem is the distribution
> of the video data and voice. The CMTS seem to have an IF (intermediate
> frecuency) interfaces and coaxial interfaces.
>
> The IF if is meant to transmit the CMTS "signal" over wireless links
> (not IP ones of course), the coax ifs do the same over coax lines.
>
> I would like to transmit that "signal" using IP wireless links (such
> as Alv B100 or whatever) to other areas. If we do not manage to do
> that we will have to install one CMTS for each area and that is really
> expensive.
>
> Many Thanks for your responses. If you have any other clue on how to
> solve this please let me know.
>
> On 9/25/07, Allen Yu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The Motorola PTP 600 radio support both Ethernet and T1 interface. Not sure
> > which CMTS you are refer to, but the compact CMTS/Router does have Ethernet
> > interface, does that combination will work?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Allen
> >
> >
> > On 9/25/07, Mark Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > If they're only going to use 1 CMTS then you must get wireless links that
> > > shoot video, which will pretty much kill any IP wireless links in the area
> > > running on the same channel.
> > >
> > > A CMTS usually must have a management server for provisioning &
> > > management,
> > > so you could buy several cheaper CMTSs (I purchased a used Nortel/Arris
> > > CMTS1000 years ago and it's never had a hiccup) and place them at each
> > > site,
> > > linking them to the management server via wireless links.
> > >
> > > I've also investingated DOCSIS wireless radios (they'll just do the data
> > > part).
> > >
> > > The problem with all this is if you don't have some kind of circuits
> > > (wired
> > > or wireless) between the sites, then you'll have to have feeds for all the
> > > channels you're going to provide at each location.  Depending on mileage,
> > > you may be able to use dry copper circuits.  I know that some of this can
> > > be
> > > done over T-1 circuits, but the project I'm involved in didn't go that
> > > route, so I never spent too much time on it.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > > Mark Nash
> > > UnwiredOnline
> > > 350 Holly Street
> > > Junction City, OR 97448
> > > http://www.uwol.net
> > > 541-998-
> > > 541-998-5599 fax
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Javier Arigita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:17 AM
> > > Subject: [WISPA] Cable network for Internet, VoIP and Video distribution
> > >
> > >
> > > > One of my customers is designing a Cable operator network for several
> > > > estate areas. They plan to use a Motorola CMTS device to serve those
> > > > areas.
> > > >
> > > > The areas are not connected by fiber and the problem they are facing
> > > > is the way to extend the CMTS service to those areas. They have think
> > > > in PTP radio links but the CMTS devices are not IP, so they should use
> > > > 1 CMTS for each area and that is very expensive.
> > > >
> > > > Is there any way to extend the CMTS coverage to this areas by using
> > > > PTP IP radio links?
> > > >
> > > > Many Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Javier
> > > >
> > > ---

Re: [WISPA] Cable network for Internet, VoIP and Video distribution

[Javier Arigita]

The CMTS does have ethernet interface. The problem is the distribution
of the video data and voice. The CMTS seem to have an IF (intermediate
frecuency) interfaces and coaxial interfaces.

The IF if is meant to transmit the CMTS "signal" over wireless links
(not IP ones of course), the coax ifs do the same over coax lines.

I would like to transmit that "signal" using IP wireless links (such
as Alv B100 or whatever) to other areas. If we do not manage to do
that we will have to install one CMTS for each area and that is really
expensive.

Many Thanks for your responses. If you have any other clue on how to
solve this please let me know.

On 9/25/07, Allen Yu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Motorola PTP 600 radio support both Ethernet and T1 interface. Not sure
> which CMTS you are refer to, but the compact CMTS/Router does have Ethernet
> interface, does that combination will work?
>
> Regards
>
> Allen
>
>
> On 9/25/07, Mark Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > If they're only going to use 1 CMTS then you must get wireless links that
> > shoot video, which will pretty much kill any IP wireless links in the area
> > running on the same channel.
> >
> > A CMTS usually must have a management server for provisioning &
> > management,
> > so you could buy several cheaper CMTSs (I purchased a used Nortel/Arris
> > CMTS1000 years ago and it's never had a hiccup) and place them at each
> > site,
> > linking them to the management server via wireless links.
> >
> > I've also investingated DOCSIS wireless radios (they'll just do the data
> > part).
> >
> > The problem with all this is if you don't have some kind of circuits
> > (wired
> > or wireless) between the sites, then you'll have to have feeds for all the
> > channels you're going to provide at each location.  Depending on mileage,
> > you may be able to use dry copper circuits.  I know that some of this can
> > be
> > done over T-1 circuits, but the project I'm involved in didn't go that
> > route, so I never spent too much time on it.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Mark Nash
> > UnwiredOnline
> > 350 Holly Street
> > Junction City, OR 97448
> > http://www.uwol.net
> > 541-998-
> > 541-998-5599 fax
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Javier Arigita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:17 AM
> > Subject: [WISPA] Cable network for Internet, VoIP and Video distribution
> >
> >
> > > One of my customers is designing a Cable operator network for several
> > > estate areas. They plan to use a Motorola CMTS device to serve those
> > > areas.
> > >
> > > The areas are not connected by fiber and the problem they are facing
> > > is the way to extend the CMTS service to those areas. They have think
> > > in PTP radio links but the CMTS devices are not IP, so they should use
> > > 1 CMTS for each area and that is very expensive.
> > >
> > > Is there any way to extend the CMTS coverage to this areas by using
> > > PTP IP radio links?
> > >
> > > Many Thanks,
> > >
> > > Javier
> > >
> > 
> > >
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Re: [WISPA] Cable network for Internet, VoIP and Video distribution

[Allen Yu]

The Motorola PTP 600 radio support both Ethernet and T1 interface. Not sure
which CMTS you are refer to, but the compact CMTS/Router does have Ethernet
interface, does that combination will work?

Regards

Allen


On 9/25/07, Mark Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If they're only going to use 1 CMTS then you must get wireless links that
> shoot video, which will pretty much kill any IP wireless links in the area
> running on the same channel.
>
> A CMTS usually must have a management server for provisioning &
> management,
> so you could buy several cheaper CMTSs (I purchased a used Nortel/Arris
> CMTS1000 years ago and it's never had a hiccup) and place them at each
> site,
> linking them to the management server via wireless links.
>
> I've also investingated DOCSIS wireless radios (they'll just do the data
> part).
>
> The problem with all this is if you don't have some kind of circuits
> (wired
> or wireless) between the sites, then you'll have to have feeds for all the
> channels you're going to provide at each location.  Depending on mileage,
> you may be able to use dry copper circuits.  I know that some of this can
> be
> done over T-1 circuits, but the project I'm involved in didn't go that
> route, so I never spent too much time on it.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Mark Nash
> UnwiredOnline
> 350 Holly Street
> Junction City, OR 97448
> http://www.uwol.net
> 541-998-
> 541-998-5599 fax
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Javier Arigita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:17 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] Cable network for Internet, VoIP and Video distribution
>
>
> > One of my customers is designing a Cable operator network for several
> > estate areas. They plan to use a Motorola CMTS device to serve those
> > areas.
> >
> > The areas are not connected by fiber and the problem they are facing
> > is the way to extend the CMTS service to those areas. They have think
> > in PTP radio links but the CMTS devices are not IP, so they should use
> > 1 CMTS for each area and that is very expensive.
> >
> > Is there any way to extend the CMTS coverage to this areas by using
> > PTP IP radio links?
> >
> > Many Thanks,
> >
> > Javier
> >
> 
> >
> > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at
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Re: [WISPA] Cable network for Internet, VoIP and Video distribution

[Mark Nash]

If they're only going to use 1 CMTS then you must get wireless links that 
shoot video, which will pretty much kill any IP wireless links in the area 
running on the same channel.


A CMTS usually must have a management server for provisioning & management, 
so you could buy several cheaper CMTSs (I purchased a used Nortel/Arris 
CMTS1000 years ago and it's never had a hiccup) and place them at each site, 
linking them to the management server via wireless links.


I've also investingated DOCSIS wireless radios (they'll just do the data 
part).


The problem with all this is if you don't have some kind of circuits (wired 
or wireless) between the sites, then you'll have to have feeds for all the 
channels you're going to provide at each location.  Depending on mileage, 
you may be able to use dry copper circuits.  I know that some of this can be 
done over T-1 circuits, but the project I'm involved in didn't go that 
route, so I never spent too much time on it.


Hope this helps.

Mark Nash
UnwiredOnline
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

- Original Message - 
From: "Javier Arigita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:17 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Cable network for Internet, VoIP and Video distribution



One of my customers is designing a Cable operator network for several
estate areas. They plan to use a Motorola CMTS device to serve those
areas.

The areas are not connected by fiber and the problem they are facing
is the way to extend the CMTS service to those areas. They have think
in PTP radio links but the CMTS devices are not IP, so they should use
1 CMTS for each area and that is very expensive.

Is there any way to extend the CMTS coverage to this areas by using
PTP IP radio links?

Many Thanks,

Javier


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[WISPA] Cable network for Internet, VoIP and Video distribution

[Javier Arigita]

One of my customers is designing a Cable operator network for several
estate areas. They plan to use a Motorola CMTS device to serve those
areas.

The areas are not connected by fiber and the problem they are facing
is the way to extend the CMTS service to those areas. They have think
in PTP radio links but the CMTS devices are not IP, so they should use
1 CMTS for each area and that is very expensive.

Is there any way to extend the CMTS coverage to this areas by using
PTP IP radio links?

Many Thanks,

Javier


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Re: [WISPA] Cable

[Tom DeReggi]

but it should be nonconductive


Yes, so it doesn't short out.
But non-conductive also means that if it ooses between pins it prevents 
conductivity. Thus causing Ethernet Connection to intermittently 
temporarilly fail, until you pull them out and clean them.  Of course there 
are best practices like Drip loops. But it can still finds a way to creep up 
the cable in some situations.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:43 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Cable



I agree the oozing gel can be a mess, but it should be nonconductive and
have no adverse effects to an Ethernet port.

Years ago I found an eight port Netgear switch nearly flooded with the 
oozed

gel mess.  Didn't seem to affect it in the least.

Best,


Brad


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Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable

Definately call Shireen, (www.allrfcables.com)
He stocks the non-gel cable that is a replacement/equivelent for 
ArcWireless


type.
(sometimes he has it with Gel)
We use it for most of our outdoor installs, its been working well.

On a side note, as policy we now prefer to select non-Gell Filled. We 
found

it unnecessary (If actually not burying cable in ground), because the gel
usually just ended up oosing out over time causing failure of Ethernet
connectors, or a mess dripping inside premise at terminations.  Basically 
we


predict that radio solutions without gel-filled would end up with a longer
life without maintenance using non-gel filled.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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From: "Blair Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:56 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Cable



I have been using an outdoor, shielded, flooded, with drain wire cat5e
cable from Arc Wireless/Winncom for all my outdoor work and have had great
luck with it.

Now, it appears this cable is no longer available.  I'm looking for a
replacement.

While I'd prefer the same cable, I'd be able to live with a non-flooded
version.

Any recommendations?  I'm running out of cable here!


--
Blair Davis

AOL IM Screen Name --  Theory240

West Michigan Wireless ISP
269-686-8648

A division of:
Camp Communication Services, INC






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RE: [WISPA] Cable

[Brad Belton]

I agree the oozing gel can be a mess, but it should be nonconductive and
have no adverse effects to an Ethernet port.

Years ago I found an eight port Netgear switch nearly flooded with the oozed
gel mess.  Didn't seem to affect it in the least.

Best,


Brad


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable

Definately call Shireen, (www.allrfcables.com)
He stocks the non-gel cable that is a replacement/equivelent for ArcWireless

type.
(sometimes he has it with Gel)
We use it for most of our outdoor installs, its been working well.

On a side note, as policy we now prefer to select non-Gell Filled. We found 
it unnecessary (If actually not burying cable in ground), because the gel 
usually just ended up oosing out over time causing failure of Ethernet 
connectors, or a mess dripping inside premise at terminations.  Basically we

predict that radio solutions without gel-filled would end up with a longer 
life without maintenance using non-gel filled.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Blair Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:56 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Cable


>I have been using an outdoor, shielded, flooded, with drain wire cat5e 
>cable from Arc Wireless/Winncom for all my outdoor work and have had great 
>luck with it.
>
> Now, it appears this cable is no longer available.  I'm looking for a 
> replacement.
>
> While I'd prefer the same cable, I'd be able to live with a non-flooded 
> version.
>
> Any recommendations?  I'm running out of cable here!
>
>
> -- 
> Blair Davis
>
> AOL IM Screen Name --  Theory240
>
> West Michigan Wireless ISP
> 269-686-8648
>
> A division of:
> Camp Communication Services, INC
>
>


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Re: [WISPA] Cable

[Tom DeReggi]

Definately call Shireen, (www.allrfcables.com)
He stocks the non-gel cable that is a replacement/equivelent for ArcWireless 
type.

(sometimes he has it with Gel)
We use it for most of our outdoor installs, its been working well.

On a side note, as policy we now prefer to select non-Gell Filled. We found 
it unnecessary (If actually not burying cable in ground), because the gel 
usually just ended up oosing out over time causing failure of Ethernet 
connectors, or a mess dripping inside premise at terminations.  Basically we 
predict that radio solutions without gel-filled would end up with a longer 
life without maintenance using non-gel filled.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Blair Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:56 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Cable


I have been using an outdoor, shielded, flooded, with drain wire cat5e 
cable from Arc Wireless/Winncom for all my outdoor work and have had great 
luck with it.


Now, it appears this cable is no longer available.  I'm looking for a 
replacement.


While I'd prefer the same cable, I'd be able to live with a non-flooded 
version.


Any recommendations?  I'm running out of cable here!


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[WISPA] Cable

[Blair Davis]

I have been using an outdoor, shielded, flooded, with drain wire cat5e 
cable from Arc Wireless/Winncom for all my outdoor work and have had 
great luck with it.


Now, it appears this cable is no longer available.  I'm looking for a 
replacement.


While I'd prefer the same cable, I'd be able to live with a non-flooded 
version.


Any recommendations?  I'm running out of cable here!


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Blair Davis

AOL IM Screen Name --  Theory240

West Michigan Wireless ISP
269-686-8648

A division of:
Camp Communication Services, INC


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[WISPA] Cable....

[Blair Davis]

Hi all...

I'm looking for some kind of  24 pair cable to run up a tower.  This is 
going to be used as 6 cat5e ethernet cables with POE.


I'd like shielded cable if they make such a beast.

While I could run 6 individual cables, it would be much easier to run 1 
big cable and break it out up there.


I need about 200 ft.

Anyone got any to sell?


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Re: [WISPA] Cable right of entry

[Ryan Spott]

chris cooper wrote:

  
  
   I have a marketing exclusive with an MTU for
broadband.  The cable sales folks keep showing up soliciting new
business
for their phone/broadband/video offering.  Property mgmt. has been
telling
the cable reps that they do not have rights to solicit, only install on
his
premises.  Their isn’t a valid contract between MTU and Cable Co. Cable
mgmt. keeps spouting off about right of entry.  I always thought this
gave
them the right enter to install or make service calls, period. Can
someone give
me the text book definition of right of entry? 
  

Along these same lines

I keep seeing all sorts of new neighborhood development in my area.
They subdivide large lots and place houses on each. The infrastructure
includes 1.5-2 inch conduit for the local phone company, but they do
not pay to put it in. 

My question is, who owns that conduit? Does the local *LEC own it or do
they only own the wires inside?

If I could get access to that conduit.. 


ryan


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[WISPA] Cable right of entry

[chris cooper]

I have a marketing exclusive with an MTU for
broadband.  The cable sales folks keep showing up soliciting new business
for their phone/broadband/video offering.  Property mgmt. has been telling
the cable reps that they do not have rights to solicit, only install on his
premises.  Their isn’t a valid contract between MTU and Cable Co. Cable
mgmt. keeps spouting off about right of entry.  I always thought this gave
them the right enter to install or make service calls, period. Can someone give
me the text book definition of right of entry?

 

Thanks

Chris






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Re: [WISPA] Cable....

[Ron Wallace]

Blair,
I have a spool, non flooded, STP, 5e, Beldin 7919a or 7929A, just got it.  won't need for a while, cost me 349, you can have it for 300.  I will be going to Michigan City tomorrow, couldswing by Allegan and drop it off.
ron wallace
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-Original Message-From: Blair Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2006 02:54 PMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: [WISPA] CableI need a spool of outdoor, shielded, flooded, with ground or drain wire, cat5 cable.I have been getting it from Arc Wireless, but they will be out of stock until mid April.  If it helps, Arc's part number is SW-CAB-108190 for the 1000 ft spool.Anybody got a spool they can spare?   Please hit me off list or give me a call at the number belowThanks.--
Blair Davis

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[WISPA] Cable....

[Blair Davis]

I need a spool of outdoor, shielded, flooded, with ground or drain
wire, cat5
cable.

I have been getting it from Arc Wireless, but they will be out of stock
until mid April.  If it helps, Arc's part number is SW-CAB-108190 for the
1000 ft spool.

Anybody got a spool they can spare?   Please hit me off list or give me
a call at the number below

Thanks.

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AOL IM Screen Name --  Theory240

West Michigan Wireless ISP
269-686-8648

A division of:
Camp Communication Services, INC



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Re: [WISPA] cable needs for relief efforts?

[Dawn]

Mac,

Ken says get hold of Jim Patient and have him get in touch with 
Bizsyscon. They have N-Connectors in stock according to their last email.

Why don't you have them ship directly to Tim?

We are looking out for you!

Dawn



Mac Dearman wrote:


Tim,

  I will pay the freight and pay for the ends if you will make me up 
about 20 lmr400 NMale - Nmale jumpers 3' long. You opened your mouth 
and I stepped up. :-) That is the one thing that we have been in short 
supply of this whole campaign. I have used up all my fittings and have 
ran across a small box of fittings in Ponchatoula yesterday that is 
still packed in my truck  - - - so I think I have the fittings to make 
some more, but if you are willing  - - - it would sure be NICE


Thanks Bro!

Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
www.inetsouth.com
www.radioresponse.org
318-728-8600 - Rayville
318-303-4229
318-303-4231
318-450-4349 - Monroe, La
318-303-4227 - NOC





Tim Wolfe wrote:

Hey Gang(Mac, Johnny O etc..), Since I can not be there right this 
moment, I can still make cables(LMR 400, CAT5). If You have a need 
for any LMR400 jumpers, or CAT5 cables that are pre-made let me know. 
I have about 1300 ft of LMR400 and quite a bit of CAT5. Just tell me 
the lengths etc. and I can make them and overnite'um to Ya' and that 
is one less thing You have to worry about. Ask and You shall 
receive!(All free of charge, as I wouldn't have it any other way! :-)  )




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Re: [WISPA] cable needs for relief efforts?

[Tim Wolfe]

OK, If You are out there reading this, and You have the crimp on 
connectors(No screw on types please) N male, I could use some. If every 
WISP out there would just send me 6 connectors, I can crank out 3 foot 
jumpers until the cows come home. I have the heat shrink, and I solder 
the center pin and I have enough of that stuff. I just need connectors. 
I was in my truck, and I will have enough ends to make around 12 or so. 
If You have them, my address is as follows:

WaveCrazy Communications
71 Hain Ave
Lebanon PA 17046

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717-273-6122 fax
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Re: [WISPA] cable needs for relief efforts?

[Tim Wolfe]

Mac, You will pay nothing!. I will make them up today if possible, but 
more than likely, it will be Sat. till I get them done. Consider it a 
done thing. I will look at my connectors also, and if need be, I will 
order more and keep knocking them out!


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Re: [WISPA] cable needs for relief efforts?

[Mac Dearman]

Tim,

  I will pay the freight and pay for the ends if you will make me up 
about 20 lmr400 NMale - Nmale jumpers 3' long. You opened your mouth and 
I stepped up. :-) That is the one thing that we have been in short 
supply of this whole campaign. I have used up all my fittings and have 
ran across a small box of fittings in Ponchatoula yesterday that is 
still packed in my truck  - - - so I think I have the fittings to make 
some more, but if you are willing  - - - it would sure be NICE


Thanks Bro!

Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
www.inetsouth.com
www.radioresponse.org
318-728-8600 - Rayville
318-303-4229
318-303-4231
318-450-4349 - Monroe, La
318-303-4227 - NOC





Tim Wolfe wrote:

Hey Gang(Mac, Johnny O etc..), Since I can not be there right this 
moment, I can still make cables(LMR 400, CAT5). If You have a need for 
any LMR400 jumpers, or CAT5 cables that are pre-made let me know. I 
have about 1300 ft of LMR400 and quite a bit of CAT5. Just tell me the 
lengths etc. and I can make them and overnite'um to Ya' and that is 
one less thing You have to worry about. Ask and You shall receive!(All 
free of charge, as I wouldn't have it any other way! :-)  )



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Re: [WISPA] cable needs for relief efforts?

[Tim Wolfe]

Hey Gang(Mac, Johnny O etc..), Since I can not be there right this 
moment, I can still make cables(LMR 400, CAT5). If You have a need for 
any LMR400 jumpers, or CAT5 cables that are pre-made let me know. I have 
about 1300 ft of LMR400 and quite a bit of CAT5. Just tell me the 
lengths etc. and I can make them and overnite'um to Ya' and that is one 
less thing You have to worry about. Ask and You shall receive!(All free 
of charge, as I wouldn't have it any other way! :-)  )


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WaveCrazy Communications
http://www.wavecrazy.net
717-274-8730 office
717-273-6122 fax
717-507-2221 cell

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