Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n frame aggregation vulnerability

2015-07-02 Thread Joshua Wright
http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/38234/hacking/802-11n-flaw.html Fortunately, there are several methods to mitigate the attacks, including MAC layer encryption, disabling Aggregated Mac Protocol Data Unit (A-MPDU) frame aggregation, configuring the system to drop corrupted A-MPDUs, the

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11N Design

2012-10-26 Thread Ron Walczak
Ekahau has a built in selection of client adapters that simulate end user results - you can select various laptop, IPphones, etc. Still waiting for an ipad/droid selection. You can manually reduce client power to customize. As user densities increase - shift your process to creation of small

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n phased deployment approaches

2010-06-03 Thread James F Eyrich
With Meru it is strongly suggested to do entire buildings at a time. Beyond Meru's suggestions based on how their tech works I still think it is a good idea. User experience would be consistent for the whole building instead of only having better connections in the strategic locations. I

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n phased deployment approaches

2010-06-03 Thread Caroline Owens
I agree with Jim...I think you can do it, it's just more work and more room for error For example, if you are going to have APs within hearing distance of each other with different band configurations (like b/g vs b/g/n) they need to be on separate ESS profiles at least that's my

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n phased deployment approaches

2010-06-03 Thread Chris Drever
Of James F Eyrich Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:43 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n phased deployment approaches With Meru it is strongly suggested to do entire buildings at a time. Beyond Meru's suggestions based on how their tech works I still think

Fwd: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n phased deployment approaches

2010-06-03 Thread Caroline Owens
I should have been more specific - I was talking about Meru ...sorry about that! Original Message Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n phased deployment approaches Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 11:02:10 -0400 From

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n configuration on Cisco

2010-04-16 Thread Johnson, Bruce T.
Is the AP configured with 2 transmit antennas? Try rebooting/ resetting the AP to factory default? Toggling ClientLink? Bruce T. Johnson | Network Engineer | Partners Healthcare | 617.726.9662 bjohns...@partners.org On Apr 13, 2010, at 11:33 AM, Mike King m...@mpking.com wrote: Ok. I

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n configuration on Cisco

2010-04-16 Thread Sullivan, Ryan
: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Johnson, Bruce T. Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 3:15 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n configuration on Cisco Is the AP configured with 2

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n configuration on Cisco

2010-04-13 Thread Chris Murphy
Mike, Make sure WMM Policy is set to allowed for the WLAN config. -Chris On Apr 13, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Mike King m...@mpking.commailto:m...@mpking.com wrote: Ok. I had my controller tweaked to where I liked it, but I forgot to hit the save configuration settings button, and the controller

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n configuration on Cisco

2010-04-13 Thread Mike King
Yep, I have that set to allowed. On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Chris Murphy ch...@mit.edu wrote: Mike, Make sure WMM Policy is set to allowed for the WLAN config. -Chris ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n configuration on Cisco

2010-04-13 Thread Hector J Rios
Wireless 802.11a/n or 802.11b/g/n High Throughput (802.11n) Also, have you made sure that the APs are actually using 40Mhz channels? WirelessAccessPointsRadios802.11a/n Finally, what channels have you selected? Remember that some clients don't support UNII 2 and UNII-2e bands. Hector

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n AP recommendations

2010-04-08 Thread Lee H Badman
Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Lowry Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 2:41 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n AP recommendations We have a robotics research

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n AP recommendations

2010-04-08 Thread Lee H Badman
Sorry- meant to say early 11n Mac, not early Mac. -Original Message- From: Lee H Badman Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 3:21 PM To: 'The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv' Subject: RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n AP recommendations Tom, I have played with Cisco 11n

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n AP recommendations

2010-04-08 Thread Bruce Marshall
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n AP recommendations We have a robotics research group that wants the highest-speed wireless connections possible. All the equipment is in the same room -- approximately 50'x 50'. Many consumer grade 802.11n APs seem to top out at well below

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n AP recommendations

2010-04-08 Thread Voll, Toivo
-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n AP recommendations We have a robotics research group that wants the highest-speed wireless connections possible. All the equipment is in the same room -- approximately 50'x 50'. Many consumer grade 802.11n APs seem to top out at well

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n AP recommendations

2010-04-08 Thread Jason Cook
We are also a cisco shop and have both 1142 and 1252 AP's on capwap. We've also recently evaluated Meru wireless gear and found it very competitive. You will definitely want to investigate user devices to ensure throughput. For desktops we have older 2.4 only Belkin USB's (F5D8051) that

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n AP recommendations

2010-04-08 Thread Philippe Hanset
Tom, One detail that I forgot to mention. It seems obvious but we got bitten by it many times! Make sure to use Gigabit ports on switches that uplink the APs. And if you use a midspan power-injector, also make sure that it supports Gigabit Ethernet! Philippe Univ. of TN On Apr 8, 2010, at

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Solutions

2009-12-19 Thread Frank Bulk
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Jason Mueller Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:25 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Solutions Pablo, Our experience with the HP MSM765 controller is mixed. It has a conceptually different architecture

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Solutions

2009-12-16 Thread Tupker, Mike
- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Pablo J. Rebollo-Sosa Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 5:55 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Solutions Hi, We are looking for 802.11n

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Solutions

2009-12-16 Thread Lee H Badman
: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:55 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Solutions Hi, We are looking for 802.11n solutions. I would like know more about Enterasys and HP solutions experience. Best regards, Pablo J. Rebollo ** Participation and subscription

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Solutions

2009-12-16 Thread Jason Mueller
Pablo, Our experience with the HP MSM765 controller is mixed. It has a conceptually different architecture than most of the other controller models out there. One key difference is that the controller works much better in an environment where you forward traffic from wireless users

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Solutions

2009-12-16 Thread Pablo J. Rebollo-Sosa
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Solutions Hi, We are looking for 802.11n solutions. I would like know more about Enterasys and HP solutions experience. Best regards, Pablo J. Rebollo ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Solutions

2009-12-16 Thread SuperPass
, December 16, 2009 6:55 AM Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Solutions Hi, We are looking for 802.11n solutions. I would like know more about Enterasys and HP solutions experience. Best regards, Pablo J. Rebollo ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Solutions

2009-12-16 Thread Lee H Badman
Listserv [wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Pablo J. Rebollo-Sosa [pablo.rebo...@upr.edu] Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 1:24 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Solutions He Lee, We currently own a wireless system with over a 150

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Solutions

2009-12-16 Thread John Rodkey
[ pablo.rebo...@upr.edu] Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 1:24 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Solutions He Lee, We currently own a wireless system with over a 150 autonomous APs. Now we are working to move the infrastructure to 11n and to have

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n antenna

2009-09-17 Thread fred
Nathan, I am using one now connected to a Cisco 1252. It works just OK. This was the highest gain I could find in an outdoor MIMO antenna. I have a challenging application where the distance is several hundred feet shooting down from a tall building into a ground level coffee shop. Over a

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n testplans

2009-01-29 Thread Barber, Matt
- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Johnson, Bruce T Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 11:36 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n testplans Toivo et al, Great comments. Does

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n testplans

2009-01-29 Thread Johnson, Bruce T
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n testplans Hi Bruce, We didn't have a formal test plan, but have had many experiences I am more than willing to share. Surveying was pretty interesting, as we deployed before there were any 11n capable tools available. Back in the summer

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n testplans

2009-01-29 Thread Lee H Badman
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n testplans Thank you Matt, I appreciate the feedback and may want to get more of your Meru experiences offline. A 5GHz RSSI (PHY) survey seems to be the common denominator for legacy and .11n clients. Its likely this provides adequate coverage for 2.4GHz

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n testplans

2009-01-29 Thread Barber, Matt
- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Johnson, Bruce T Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:25 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n testplans Thank you Matt, I appreciate

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n testplans

2009-01-29 Thread Barber, Matt
Listserv [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:42 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n testplans I had an interesting exchange with Ekahau (we use them and AirMagnet) about how 11n should change

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n testplans

2009-01-29 Thread Johnson, Bruce T
...@partners.org From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of Barber, Matt Sent: Thu 1/29/2009 11:07 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n testplans Yeah, that is something I should have mentioned

[WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n testplans

2009-01-28 Thread Johnson, Bruce T
Toivo et al, Great comments. Does anyone have any 802.11n testplans they are willing to share? 802.11n Survey experiences? Has it turned the traditional survey methodology on its head, or do we still have to consider legacy and so the n simply stands for Nice (if you have it). Anyone with

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n and WPA/WPA2...

2008-06-19 Thread Paynter, Jeffrey
: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n and WPA/WPA2... So, we've been testing 802.11n with a couple of Cisco 1250 radios. In order to support it on our 802.1X/WPA/TKIP WLAN, we had to add WPA2 to our layer 2 security parameters. So now we support either WPA or WPA2. We are finding out that some systems don't like

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n and WPA/WPA2...

2008-06-19 Thread Hector J Rios
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paynter, Jeffrey Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:32 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n and WPA/WPA2... We have 1,300 + APs with a mix of 1131AGs, 1242s, and 1250s. We broadcast our SSIDs and one of them is using Layer 2 security WPA + WPA2

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n and WPA/WPA2...

2008-06-19 Thread Paynter, Jeffrey
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n and WPA/WPA2... Jeffrey, Can you confirm that your setup has worked with Vista and Windows mobile? I did find out that at least on two Vista machines, upgrading to SP1 solved the issue. Hector -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n and WPA/WPA2...

2008-06-18 Thread Chanowski, John
] On Behalf Of Hector J Rios Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:06 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n and WPA/WPA2... So, we've been testing 802.11n with a couple of Cisco 1250 radios. In order to support it on our 802.1X/WPA/TKIP WLAN, we had to add WPA2 to our layer 2

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n and WPA/WPA2...

2008-06-18 Thread Frank Bulk - iNAME
] On Behalf Of Hector J Rios Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:06 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n and WPA/WPA2... So, we've been testing 802.11n with a couple of Cisco 1250 radios. In order to support it on our 802.1X/WPA/TKIP WLAN, we had to add WPA2 to our layer 2

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n WPA2/AES requirement

2008-03-17 Thread Barber, Matt
Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Moores Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 4:05 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n WPA2/AES requirement Just wondering what encryption type those of you that have started moving to (testing with) 802.11n APs

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n WPA2/AES requirement

2008-03-17 Thread Winders, Timothy A
: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n WPA2/AES requirement From my testing and from the systems engineer of the vendor's equipment that I was testing, an 802.11n client with WPA2/AES can connect at 802.11n rates, but if that same 802.11n client connects using WPA/TKIP, it gets a/b/g rates even though client and AP

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n

2008-01-16 Thread Lee Weers
+matchallpartial Nu=P_RollupKey -Original Message- From: Jonn Martell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 1:02 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n I won't speak for Bret but considering the cost differential of 11xx and 12xx models

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n

2008-01-15 Thread Bret Jones
PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Jonn: According to Cisco, if you have particular models of the 3750E, 4500, and 6500, you may be able to power their new 802.11n APs with full features. If that's not workable solution in a customer's environment

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n

2008-01-14 Thread Frank Bulk
. Frank -Original Message- From: Bret Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 5:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n 1. The technology is very new in the enterprise market and when rolling out thousands

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n

2008-01-14 Thread Jonn Martell
: Bret Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 5:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n 1. The technology is very new in the enterprise market and when rolling out thousands of AP's is just too risky

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n

2008-01-14 Thread Philippe Hanset
...? Philippe Hanset Univ of TN. Frank -Original Message- From: Jonn Martell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:19 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n It's interesting, Cisco, which still dominates the WLAN market has

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n

2008-01-14 Thread Frank Bulk - iNAME
gear. Frank -Original Message- From: Philippe Hanset [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 3:48 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n My question to you: how many of you will go with a single-radio 802.11n-capable AP

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n

2008-01-12 Thread Frank Bulk - iNAME
From: Dave Molta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:24 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n I think Peter has the right perspective here. The risk that a Draft 2.0/Wi-Fi Certified AP purchased today would be incompatible

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n

2008-01-11 Thread Lee H Badman
: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:45 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n I'd be interested in results being posted on-list...I've not yet heard of any manufacturer who is guaranteeing free upgrades to the finalized standard...only,...'should

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n

2008-01-11 Thread Jamie Savage
: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Actually, we did get a verbal commitment to that very notion yesterday from one of the more visible 11n vendors, but would have to see if that would be put in writing if we ever did proceed down that road. Lee From: Jamie Savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n

2008-01-11 Thread Peter P Morrissey
University From: Jamie Savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:26 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n exactly!...that's why I doubt any manufacturer would sign an agreement

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n

2008-01-11 Thread Daniel Eklund
Doug Payne wrote: I wonder if you'll have more issues now that Aruba has acquired AirWave? http://www.arubanetworks.com/company/news/release.php?id=56 Hopefully not, but in 2 years or so I won't have a multivendor wireless network, so it may not matter if Meru can improve their management

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n

2008-01-11 Thread Dale W. Carder
On Jan 11, 2008, at 9:48 AM, Lee H Badman wrote: Actually, we did get a verbal commitment to that very notion yesterday from one of the more visible 11n vendors, but would have to see if that would be put in writing if we ever did proceed down that road. For hardware or software

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n

2008-01-11 Thread Jonn Martell
From: Lee Weers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:46 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n We have a campus wide wireless project just starting that we are going to do 802.11n everywhere we can place a Cisco

RE: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n tied to 802.3at

2007-11-19 Thread Frank Bulk - iNAME
Do any of the bands have lesser/no DFS requirements? If so, those are will be more attractive. Frank -Original Message- From: Jon Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 6:32 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n tied

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n tied to 802.3at

2007-11-19 Thread Jon Freeman
, 2007 5:49 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n tied to 802.3at Do any of the bands have lesser/no DFS requirements? If so, those are will be more attractive. Frank -Original Message- From: Jon Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n tied to 802.3at

2007-11-19 Thread ray
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007, Jon Freeman wrote: As higher level standards in 802.11 call for more AP control, this will become more valuable in ensuring less co-channel interference across heterogeneous environments. But, it will also mean less need for IT intervention as the access device will make

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n, DFS2, and channel assignment in the 5 GHZ range

2007-11-19 Thread Frank Bulk
to me by a vendor. Frank -Original Message- From: Zeller, Tom S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 1:17 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n, DFS2, and channel assignment in the 5 GHZ range Interesting TechWorld article

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n tied to 802.3at

2007-11-18 Thread Kevin Miller
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n tied to 802.3at Good points, Philippe. For those organizations that want to be bleeding edge, I don't think PoE concerns are going to hold them back. Every vendor has a way to address them today in a way that's not a show-stopper. Has anyone heard

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n tied to 802.3at

2007-11-18 Thread Dale W. Carder
On Nov 18, 2007, at 7:06 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: One thing to note is that 300Mbps as a symbol rate is only possible with 40MHz channels (versus the 20MHz standard width for 802.11a/b/ g) .. which in 2.4GHz takes you from 3 non-overlapping to 1 non- overlapping. In 5GHz you have at least 8

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n tied to 802.3at

2007-11-17 Thread Justin Dover
- From: Frank Bulk - iNAME [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 8:07 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n tied to 802.3at Good points, Philippe. For those organizations that want to be bleeding edge, I don't think PoE concerns

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n tied to 802.3at

2007-11-16 Thread Lee Weers
they hadn't decided on 33 or 48 watts of power per port. -Original Message- From: Frank Bulk - iNAME [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 8:07 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n tied to 802.3at Good points, Philippe. For those

RE: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n tied to 802.3at

2007-11-16 Thread Frank Bulk
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n tied to 802.3at I heard from Cisco 2 days ago that the 3750E and the modules that will power their 1252 will be availble around the end of Dec/Januarary time frame. I'm trying to pry out of HP if the 5400's and 3500's will be firmware upgradable

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0

2007-11-14 Thread Kevin Miller
: Tue 11/13/2007 9:30 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0 Those are two events with rather technically savvy people who will set their radios to prefer 802.11a. =) So I would call 60% the high watermark. Most organizations will see less than

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0

2007-11-14 Thread David Gillett
prove to be David Gillett -Original Message- From: Dan McCarriar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 3:14 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0 Lee, As was noted by others earlier today, we recently

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0

2007-11-14 Thread Peter P Morrissey
practical that would prove to be David Gillett -Original Message- From: Dan McCarriar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 3:14 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0 Lee, As was noted by others

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0

2007-11-13 Thread Lee Weers
: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0 Hi Lee- I would encourage an eyes-open, non-biased bake-off if you have no wireless now. Regardless of what APs you settle on, scrutinize the management component closely. You may end up with a whiz-bang WLAN, but if you become a slave to the management tool, you'll

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0

2007-11-13 Thread Jorj Bauer
Had they received Wi-Fi certification? I think that could be a differentiating factor. I remeber that there was talk of 802.11g being certified *after* the final release, but not during draft. Some 802.11g draft hardware was specified as compliant after the final spec was approved, though.

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0

2007-11-13 Thread Hizny, Michael
, November 13, 2007 3:42 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0 For wireless we currently have an Aruba 2400, and a HP WESM xl module. About a year ago I did a comparison (mostly on paper) of a campus wide deployment of Aruba, Trapeze, Procurve

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0

2007-11-13 Thread Russ Leathe
Carnegie Mellon just went through an extensive N evalthey chose Aruba. http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/071112/0324644.html From: Lee Weers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 3:25 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0

2007-11-13 Thread Peter Morrissey
: King, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:29 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0 Great question.. Two points you need to know... 1252's require gigabit Ethernet ports. (Any 802.11n is going to need

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0

2007-11-13 Thread Kevin Pait
We are currently rolling out Cisco a/b/g wireless and asked the vendor about designing with 802.11n in mind. The overall response was that the technology is too immature and any predictions would be highly speculative. They also said that the consumer base would not be populated with N - capable

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0

2007-11-13 Thread Kevin Miller
It probably is no surprise but we have a 1252-based pilot in operation now, with ongoing conversations about when/how to expand. All of the concerns raised so far are valid, and under discussion. Currently we're using individual power injectors to Gig switches, but we all know how well individual

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0

2007-11-13 Thread Lee Weers
, November 13, 2007 3:38 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0 We are currently rolling out Cisco a/b/g wireless and asked the vendor about designing with 802.11n in mind. The overall response was that the technology is too immature and any

RE: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0

2007-11-13 Thread Frank Bulk
. Frank From: Toby Krohn (tkrohn) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:00 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0 Actually, all but the lowest end of client devices are already shipping with n. With that said

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0

2007-11-13 Thread Philippe Hanset
Lee, It's all about be willing to pay the price of being an early adopter! Is it better to deploy an early 802.11n today and deal with the consequences (two cat5, two 802.3af ports, I wonder if you can etherchannel two 100 Mbps ports for each AP since you bring two cat5 anyway!) or wait for a

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0

2007-11-13 Thread Toby Krohn (tkrohn)
. From: Frank Bulk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:54 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0 Good point, though those legacy client devices seem to stick around longer than you think. In any case, shipping chipsets

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0

2007-11-13 Thread Dan McCarriar
Lee, As was noted by others earlier today, we recently announced our new Wireless Andrew 2.0 project, which will bring 802.11n to the campus wireless network using equipment from Aruba and Xirrus. I'm happy to answer any questions you might have. -Dan Dan McCarriar Assistant

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0

2007-11-13 Thread Tom Magrini
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:02 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0 Lee, I think you are right on. I think as long as your a/b/g network is working well, the students aren't going to care about 11n. In my mind

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0

2007-11-13 Thread Frank Bulk
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:58 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0 Lee, It's all about be willing to pay the price of being an early adopter! Is it better to deploy an early 802.11n today and deal with the consequences (two

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0

2007-11-13 Thread Frank Bulk
: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0 Lee, As was noted by others earlier today, we recently announced our new Wireless Andrew 2.0 project, which will bring 802.11n to the campus wireless network using equipment from Aruba and Xirrus. I'm happy to answer any questions you might have. -Dan

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0

2007-11-13 Thread Jon Freeman
-2666 -Original Message- From: Frank Bulk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 06:05 PM Pacific Standard Time To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject:Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0 For those organizations that are risk-averse and/or price

RE: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0

2007-11-13 Thread Frank Bulk
, 2007 8:16 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0 We supplied wi-fi to Interop this year where 60% of all clients connecting were 11a. We're seeing the same stats at the ITU in Geneva during the world radio congress last month. Del'Oro indicated

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0

2007-11-13 Thread Lee H Badman
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n Draft 2.0 Those are two events with rather technically savvy people who will set their radios to prefer 802.11a. =) So I would call 60% the high watermark. Most organizations will see less than this. Regards, Frank _ From

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n thoughts?

2006-12-13 Thread John Rodkey
We just had preliminary discussions with Aruba about this. Although it's true that we have very little or no need to support 11n through our infrastructure, the existence of rogues is a substantial concern. Since 11n uses different frequencies than 11[abg] it can't be detected directly by an

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n thoughts?

2006-12-13 Thread Frank Bulk
period. Users may benefit from some burst headroom, but that's about it. Regards, Frank -Original Message- From: Lee Badman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 8:31 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n thoughts? Looking forward

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11n thoughts?

2006-12-12 Thread Simon Kissler
Lee, I don't know if it's an issue of not thinking about it. I for one keep my eye on it, but until a standard is ratified and we get some gear with that standard on campus to do some real assessment in our environment, I keep on coming back to the point that it's largely academic at the