RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-23 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Feature rich firmware: -lets start by firmware that actually works and is really tested before release -Vlan capability on the SM to tag packets with Q, also with Vlan filtering -NAT cabability on the SM with DHCP Client and Server plus Port filtering and DMZ -Traffic filter in bridge mode,

Re: [WISPA] RB153

2006-09-23 Thread ofasa.wisp-lists
Onboard PSU is 10W max like the RB112. Board draws 3-4W that leaves 6-7W. It shuld only be able to handle 1 SR9! - Original Message - From: JNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 5:00 AM Subject: [WISPA] RB153 Does anyone

Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations

2006-09-23 Thread Pete Davis
According to the DOL (department of Labor) an employee can be paid by the hour or for piece work (by the job) from http://www.dol.gov/compliance/guide/minwage.htm The Act requires employers of covered employees who are not otherwise exempt to pay these employees a minimum wage of not less

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-23 Thread Matt Liotta
Travis Johnson wrote: Our biggest problem is frequency availability at all (regardless of radio choice)... we have a 2.4ghz AP at a repeater station that is full. We attempted to install a second sector today and ran a site survey at this location across the entire 2.4ghz band, the

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-23 Thread Charles Wu
If you're serving the residential market, and price is the big concern, it's worth noting that Canopy has a $40 / customer residential rebate program that's been going on for almost 2 years now It's also worth noting with Canopy that you need to add ~$10 / unit for power supplies (they are sold

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-23 Thread Matt Liotta
Gino A. Villarini wrote: GPS sync is extra $$. Of course you can also just string sync cables between radios for free. True, but this is truly what makes canopy works and you have nice 3rd party options like www.lastmilegear.com and www.packetflux.com for the gps sync units that start @

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-23 Thread Anthony Will
I haven't payed for a power supply in about a year. My distributor http://www.doubleradius.com usually tosses them in on specials and such. The prices I listed where from their website. Anthony Will Broadband Corp. Charles Wu wrote: If you're serving the residential market, and price is

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-23 Thread Charles Wu
snip 25 pack: LITE: $129 NET ($149 - 40 + 10) -- (this is currently a promo that ends December 31) Normal: $237 NET ($267 - 40 + 10) 100 pack: Normal: $186 NET ($216 - $40 + 10) /snip Lol -- can't add -- should be 25 pack: LITE: $119 NET ($149 - 40 + 10) -- (this is currently a promo that

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-23 Thread Anthony Will
I will agree that Trango prices are lower then Moto Canopy. The 900mhz can come with integrated or connectorized for different prices but they are more expensive then what I listed. I just wanted to show that the difference in pricing is not a world of difference that Alvarion. You have to

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-23 Thread Anthony Will
So does anyone out there use the Alvarion VL and willing to give real pricing and feature set? I am interested in how it stacks up for a BH solution. Anthony Will Broadband Crop. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I changed the subject line to reflect more the direction of this discussion (Trango

Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations

2006-09-23 Thread John J. Thomas
Id never said they couldn't be paid by the hour. I used to work for a roofing company, and they were regularly questioned about they way they paid their employees. If you have someone work in your office at for 6 hours, and then they go and flat-rate a 3 hour job, that looks like overtime to

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-23 Thread Travis Johnson
The biggest reason we use Trango is because we sell our wireless service as symmetrical. Even on the residential level, if they purchase 512k they get 512k down and 512k up. So, if I use Canopy, I have to do a 50/50 split, which means even the Advantage product only provides 7Mbps of usable

Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations

2006-09-23 Thread Scott Reed
That answered my comment.  As long as they are employees for everything, there is no problem that I am aware of to pay some piece-rate and some hourly rate. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-23 Thread Matt Liotta
Travis Johnson wrote: The biggest reason we use Trango is because we sell our wireless service as symmetrical. Even on the residential level, if they purchase 512k they get 512k down and 512k up. So, if I use Canopy, I have to do a 50/50 split, which means even the Advantage product only

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-23 Thread Charles Wu
Keep in mind...although, as techies, we love to get into a my @[EMAIL PROTECTED] is bigger/better then yours debate, the simple fact is that there's no magic bullet solution that will make your WISP succeed. Heck, the ones that I see fail or stagnate are generally the ones who spend all their

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-23 Thread Charles Wu
Matt, You guys are argueing about irrelevant topics If memory serves me correctly, you provide non-oversubscribed wireless DIA (leased line replacement) for SMB/Enterprises in a Tier1/2 urban market and sell for $200-400 (if not higher) ARPU Travis provides massively oversubscribed residential

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-23 Thread Brad Belton
Good point Charles and exactly the point I was making during a vendor presentation not long ago. Bottom line is we are a results driven company. I really don't care if two tin cans and twine is the best solution or if the solution is pulsed multi-wave fiber as long as the results are what we are

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-23 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Travis, WE provide Symetrical Business service with Canopy, why you couldn't ? A Regular AP has 7 Mbps if you split 75/25 that translates to : 5.25 / 1.75 Why can you sell a 512/512 over that type of AP split ? We use Advantage and have 10/4 MBps of capacity. My biggest Symetrical Plan is 3

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-23 Thread Gino Villarini
Advantage AP 14 Mbps will give you 7 / 7 Mbps, and thats at the same time, wheres with Trango you can only get 5 /5 ... Gino Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Because you will run out of upload capacity and the sector will be full. We sell up to 2Mbps connections (2Mbps down and 2Mbps up)... so I

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-23 Thread Travis Johnson
Yes, but I don't have to set the Trango it changes with the load automatically so I don't have to limit myself based on what the customers may be doing at that time. So I can load up the AP until the total up and down traffic is 10Mbps (which will probably be 8 down 2 up ratio). You

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-23 Thread Patrick Leary
How much detail do you want? Those not familiar with Alvarion are generally shocked at the level of what can be done in terms of features. Makes Trango and Canopy look like a kindergartener's product. But to be candid, that level of detail is also Achilles' heel. I'll try to find a way to

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-23 Thread Butch Evans
On Sat, 23 Sep 2006, Patrick Leary wrote: How much detail do you want? Those not familiar with Alvarion are generally shocked at the level of what can be done in terms of features. Makes Trango and Canopy look like a kindergartener's product. But to be candid, that level of detail is also

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-23 Thread Patrick Leary
I believe most if not all of the below are features not found among Trango or Canopy. I list a few of the advanced features. A few of these (probably some you have never heard of before or even thought of) I show in detail. Maybe this post will also explain why the VL is not simply an

[WISPA] ARIN IP Application

2006-09-23 Thread Carl A Jeptha
My upstream is trying to obtain a set of ip numbers to use between ourselves, but ARIN is rejecting the application because they feel that we do not require or have use for our own ip numbers. Any tips would be appreciated in assisting to achieve this. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A