Re: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report released onEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over

2007-01-15 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Marlon, You mean to tell me you read this report and that was the only comment you could come with? Please point out where you got the idea that the city of San Francisco was paying for this network. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Whoa, hold the phone there Haus. I though

RE: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report releasedonEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over

2007-01-15 Thread Ralph
It is. SF has no financial investment at all. They just get a free ubiquitous network covering their city, like many other cities already have. As far as the 300k free tier goes, 300 k is fine if you had nothing. What do they think, that the dial up people had free dialup already? Fiber to the p

[WISPA] Orlando WISP

2007-01-15 Thread Peter R.
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[WISPA] SF Earthlink study

2007-01-15 Thread Kimo Crossman
From: "Ralph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >It is. SF has no financial investment at all. They just get a free >ubiquitous network covering their city, like many other cities already have. >As far as the 300k free tier goes, 300 k is fine if you had nothing. What do >they think, that the dial up people had

Re: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst reportreleased onEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over

2007-01-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
First page, first paragraph. No I've not read the whole thing yet. I've got family and customers to take care of first. I'm also working on the next wisp fcc meetings. Working on getting a meeting with the broadband group at the ftc and talking to the fbi about calea (more on that in anothe

[WISPA] calea

2007-01-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Hi All, I've finally found the folks at the FBI that we need to talk to. We'll have a lot more info soon. We've also got Kris and Larry working on documentation for us. First, CALEA is NOT a data retention requirement. Do do NOT have to routinely store any customer data in order to be com

Re: [WISPA] outdoor webcam

2007-01-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I've got one from Inscape data. It works very well. I've also got one of the DLINK ones from 3 or 4 years ago. I hope they are better now, I never did get the other one to FTP alarm images to anyone. Finally gave the cam away. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181

RE: [WISPA] calea

2007-01-15 Thread Rick Harnish
I am working on a CALEA solution that will be available by subscription by a third party vendor. We will be working out the details in the next few weeks. The deadline for CALEA compliance is May 14, 2007. This is a federal mandate imposed on all ISP's and with my understanding has no funding av

Re: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst reportreleased onEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over

2007-01-15 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Marlon, I have the paragraph you referred to below. It says that the city is going to conduct a feasibility study to see if it was possible for the city to pay for and run the network. It does not say the city has funded any network what so ever. "The Budget Analyst’s Office has been directe

Re: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst reportreleased onEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over

2007-01-15 Thread Peter R.
Easy there, Dawn. Muni wireless is just one of those topics like gay marriage -- it fires up the constiuency. Like everything else, every one has the right to his/her opinion without getting personal (or political), no matter how wrong that opinion may be. - Peter Dawn DiPietro wrote: I

[WISPA] IPsec/UDP and my border NAT gateway

2007-01-15 Thread rabbtux rabbtux
Anyone have suggestions on what I need to do to allow my customer to do this type of VPN. I currently have customers behind my linux/iptables firewall that masquerades them out a single IP. This is the first customer who is having problems. Do I need a special rule to accomodate them?? The cu

Re: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst reportreleased onEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over

2007-01-15 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Peter, I would agree with what you have to say about opinions but this was not opinion. It was a statement based on a misunderstanding of what was written in a public document about a high profile project. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Peter R. wrote: Easy there, Dawn. Muni wireless is just one

RE: [WISPA] IPsec/UDP and my border NAT gateway

2007-01-15 Thread Eric Rogers
You have to create a rule to allow the GRE tunnel back to your customer from the VPN Server IP. Are you forwarding ALL public IP traffic to his private IP? I believe it is Protocol 47 or something like that. You also need to allow certain udp ports through but I don't remember off the top of my

Re: [WISPA] IPsec/UDP and my border NAT gateway

2007-01-15 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007, rabbtux rabbtux wrote: Anyone have suggestions on what I need to do to allow my customer to do this type of VPN. I currently have customers behind my linux/iptables firewall that masquerades them out a single IP. This is the first customer who is having problems. Do I ne

RE: [WISPA] SF Earthlink study

2007-01-15 Thread Ralph
Kimo- please explain what Webnetic is. Numbering my responses to Kimo's questions: 1. Right now, a handful of cities (I think they are the 3 Metro-Fi cities in Silicon Valley, plus Mtn View) are getting 1Mb. This is totally dependent of the depth of the pockets of Metro-Fi's backers and on the

RE: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report releasedonEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over

2007-01-15 Thread Ralph
Where do they guarantee anon usage? I have used both Sunnyvale and Santa Clara and had to sign up to use it. No one is going to allow anon usage! Too many things can happen when users do bad things. If you were in this business, you would understand. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PRO

RE: [WISPA] IPsec/UDP and my border NAT gateway

2007-01-15 Thread Frank
A "Standard" Ipsec VPN will use GRE, protocol 47: http://www.iana.org/assignments/protocol-numbers It's not UDP. It appears that CenterBeam VPN uses Cisco gear: http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/prod_121201.html If this is the case, then they should be able to encapsulate this into UDP or IP and t

RE: [WISPA] San Francisco Legislative Analyst report releasedonEarthLink Google WiFi deal - says Start Over

2007-01-15 Thread Kimo Crossman
Ok to Clarify, here is what EPIC says about MetroFi's Privacy policy: MetroFi proposes an advertising-supported service with a 1 Mbps connection, or the same connection without advertisements for $20 a month. As with many companies operating under self-regulatory privacy norms, MetroFi's privac

RE: [WISPA] Looking for Trangos

2007-01-15 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
She don't like us anymore. lol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 10:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for Trangos hey, you are back! I was wondering where you've been

RE: [WISPA] calea

2007-01-15 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
Sounds simple enough. Any MT can stream packets a packet capture device. As far as VPN, that's simple, etc. So, the only thing that it would require is double the customers bandwidth during the time they were monitored. Unless you had a box to store it locally and then ship that off via dvd or so

RE: [WISPA] outdoor webcam

2007-01-15 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
Ya, I have been selling the inscape webcams for a while. They work quite well, simple and do work well. We usually use them for the wired POE installations though. The only time I needed a wireless camera, we ended up just putting a CB3 next to the camera (already had power) and connected to the

RE: [WISPA] IPsec/UDP and my border NAT gateway

2007-01-15 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
In case someone ddi'ent say, if they are using CISCO IPSEC, etc, what happen is this. 1. Client requests via TCP to start a VPN session 2. Server sends back UDP packets to start the session 3. NAT/MASQ blocks these un-authed UDP packets. The two anaswers are. 1. Tell the customer to change the

RE: [WISPA] IPsec/UDP and my border NAT gateway

2007-01-15 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
IPSEC uses the GRE, but also traverse UDP. CISCO VPN clints do use UDP, they use GRE to do the establishment sometimes as well.The Cisco VPN client is a pain, regardless, but there is a option for TCP connectivity. Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PRO

RE: [WISPA] IPsec/UDP and my border NAT gateway

2007-01-15 Thread Frank
I seem to remember specifically allowing this UDP years ago when I used iptables, ipfwm and ipchains. Once these rules were in place, the Cisco VPN (encapsulated inside UDP) worked fine. Frank > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denni

RE: [WISPA] IPsec/UDP and my border NAT gateway

2007-01-15 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007, Frank wrote: I seem to remember specifically allowing this UDP years ago when I used iptables, ipfwm and ipchains. I've not done a lot of research in this area, because I've always provided public IP space to my customers. However, I suspect that the IPSEC passthrough i

RE: [WISPA] Looking for Trangos

2007-01-15 Thread wifi
Always love you guys. You know where to find me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 6:31 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Looking for Trangos She don't like us anymo

[WISPA] WTB: DS3 - Ethernet converters

2007-01-15 Thread Gino Villarini
Looking for Net to Net 6 port ds3 - Ethernet converters ... Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: ht

Re: [WISPA] calea

2007-01-15 Thread Forrest W. Christian
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: There are already standards in place on what and how to do this for the DSL industry, cable is working on a standard. The conversation was more technical than I can recall word for word, but it sounds like it would be a very very good idea for us to

Re: [WISPA] IPsec/UDP and my border NAT gateway

2007-01-15 Thread rabbtux rabbtux
I have one rule that I thought would work with all NAT friendly vpns: # Masquerade for wireless 10.10.0.0 iptables -A POSTROUTING -s 10.10.0.0/16 -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE So is this Centerbeam VPN not 'NAT friendly'? I don't currently have the option to pass routable IPs to customers :( On 1/15/

Re: [WISPA] IPsec/UDP and my border NAT gateway

2007-01-15 Thread Pete Davis
My approach is a little more lazy than most firewall management people provide, I suspect. If a customer isn't able to function within the set of firewall rules that I have set for most of the customers, I add his IP to a "whitelist" list of IP addresses in my firewall. These addresses don't ge