[WISPA] circular multi polarity antennas

2007-08-07 Thread RickG
I've heard some success stories with circular and multi polarity antennas. Some speak highly of wifi-plus and others of luxel. What are others out there finding? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] 60Ghz backhaul....

2007-08-07 Thread Adam Greene
We've had very good success with Bridgewave gear. They have 60GHz unlicensed and 80GHz licensed solutions which support 100Mbps and Gigabit speeds. Link range on the 60GHz is about 1-2 miles; I think the 80GHz is similar. Reliability is very high. Good luck, Adam - Original Message

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread David E. Smith
Felix A. Lopez wrote: Dave/Mike: Handango has a bevy of software and handheld applications. See weblink below http://www.handango.com/home.jsp?siteId=1 Okay, now let's poke at details... I need, specifically, a working Ctrl key, and key chording. I couldn't find any Windows Mobile SSH

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Matt Liotta
David E. Smith wrote: I need, specifically, a working Ctrl key, and key chording. I couldn't find any Windows Mobile SSH client that supported those (when I started on this project a few weeks back, I tested substantially all of 'em). Can anyone confirm/deny whether there's one that works that

[WISPA] Re: How FCC screwed USA boradband

2007-08-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
deep sigh First, the survey these guys all like to point to is a BS survey. It doesn't count us WISPs. Coarse, neither does the government :-). Next, whining about the 200k broadband definition is useless. The FCC 477 STARTS at 200k. It goes up to something like 10 meg service. 200k is

Re: [WISPA] Re: How FCC screwed USA boradband

2007-08-07 Thread Mike Hammett
FTTx is a great idea and is the best long term solution. It is the only thing that should be considered for greenfields, and with proper planning and scheduling, should be rolled out to everywhere else. It has always sounded like the system in your neck of the woods has been managed

RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Mac Dearman
David, I wish you luck! I have not found anything suitable and I have been looking on off for a couple years - - and we are in the same shape as far as having to use Alltel. I am watching this thread closely :-) Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread David E. Smith
Matt Liotta wrote: This is my point from yesterday. These devices are designed to work well with web-based applications. You will spend far less time and money interfacing them with such. Hey, if you want to write a Web interface for StarOS, go right ahead. I'm sure Lonnie would love you

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Matt Liotta
David E. Smith wrote: Hey, if you want to write a Web interface for StarOS, go right ahead. I'm sure Lonnie would love you for it. :) I don't really have any incentive to do that. In the meantime, though, my network has a lot of things that can only be accessed through telnet or SSH, and I

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Adam Kennedy
While a web interface is a good idea there are times at which one would still need to SSH into a network. I would rather not have a php interface adjusting BGP or OSPF configs for instance. Matt Liotta wrote: David E. Smith wrote: Hey, if you want to write a Web interface for StarOS, go

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Matt Liotta
Adam Kennedy wrote: While a web interface is a good idea there are times at which one would still need to SSH into a network. I would rather not have a php interface adjusting BGP or OSPF configs for instance. Are you suggesting that you would want to SSH in via a cell phone and adjust BGP

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread David E. Smith
Matt Liotta wrote: It would appear you are making incorrect assumptions. Why would it cost a lot of money? A programmer can be hired on the cheap and the amount of work you need is small. If it cost you more than a few hundred dollars you are over paying. The original assumption was that

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread David E. Smith
Matt Liotta wrote: Are you suggesting that you would want to SSH in via a cell phone and adjust BGP or OSPF configs? If the alternative is having a broken network, yes. ;) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You!

Re: [WISPA] fcc committee survey

2007-08-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Can you double-check that Larry? It's my understanding that USF is ONLY for dialtone (well, voice as cell phone companies get it too). Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since

Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?

2007-08-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I tend to agree with this. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message

RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Cliff Leboeuf wrote: Butch, why not the Blackjack? Does it have issues or is it more limited than the others? 1. No touchscreen 2. It is SLOW 3. It has serious bluetooth problems 4. The world's smallest qwerty keyboard that they claim is the worlds biggest pita Those

Re: [WISPA] Cable

2007-08-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
but it should be nonconductive Yes, so it doesn't short out. But non-conductive also means that if it ooses between pins it prevents conductivity. Thus causing Ethernet Connection to intermittently temporarilly fail, until you pull them out and clean them. Of course there are best practices

Re: [WISPA] 60Ghz backhaul....

2007-08-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
Distance? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Luke Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 3:26 PM Subject: [WISPA] 60Ghz backhaul I was wondering of anyone had any advise as to

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Matt Liotta
David E. Smith wrote: The original assumption was that replacing my whole network was where you were going with your statement, and I apologize for that misinterpretation. Not that your actual suggestion of write a bunch of Web interfaces is that much better... I haven't actually suggested

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread David E. Smith
Matt Liotta wrote: I certainly understand your point as we have a variety of radio vendor equipment with a variety of management interfaces. However, all of them have SNMP interfaces, which gave us a common way to manage all of our radios. Yeah, well, now we're kinda back to the whole you

RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Mac Dearman
This really isn't a hard subject to grasp - unless you try to make it that way. What a lot of us are looking for is an easy way to ssh or telnet into our networks and do whatever it is we need to do, but don't want to be tethered to a laptop. A real life example would be sitting at the ball park

[WISPA] Verizon Bandwidth

2007-08-07 Thread Jory Privett
Does anyone have a sales contact for Verizon besides the standard business markets group? They should have an ISP team I could contact or someone that specializes in IP Bandwidth. Jory Privett WCCS WISPA Wants

Re: [WISPA] Verizon Bandwidth

2007-08-07 Thread Zack Kneisley
Are you looking for Verizon ISP Wholesale Advanced Data Services? As in you want to wholesale DSL? If so, I can help.. you need an account rep first. On 8/7/07, Jory Privett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a sales contact for Verizon besides the standard business markets group? They

[WISPA] ethernet switches, again

2007-08-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I know this has come up from time to time but I need to ask again. Here's what I'm looking for. Cheapish. I have 20 plus sites out there so I need to watch the budget on this. I don't want too cheap though, more inexpensive than cheap. I need the ability to force all traffic to an uplink

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Matt Liotta
David E. Smith wrote: Yeah, well, now we're kinda back to the whole you wanna give me a new network? thing. If I have any say in it, any new gear will be easier to manage, but that doesn't magically make all the old gear work that way. I have backhaul links that only support read-only SNMP,

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Sam Tetherow
Not that it helps much, but I got you covered for most of the RouterOS stuff. I have a perl class that uses expect to interface with the command line interface for RouterOS. I know it doesn't quite fit into your pocket and they only work with cingular (for cell service) but the sony vaio

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread David E. Smith
Sam Tetherow wrote: Not that it helps much, but I got you covered for most of the RouterOS stuff. I have a perl class that uses expect to interface with the command line interface for RouterOS. Is it in CPAN, and if so, what's it called? I know it doesn't quite fit into your pocket and they

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread David E. Smith
Matt Liotta wrote: And in those cases you should probably use a laptop. Ah, but I'm at the baseball game. At best, my laptop's in my car. (If I felt like putting up with traffic, that means it's in a nearby parking lot, ten or fifteen minutes away, plus however long it takes me to find a

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Ryan Langseth
Honestly to find a cell phone or single device that is the prefect sysadmin device is a pipe dream imo. Here is one more thing for you to look at though. http://www.oqo.com/products/model02/features.html The price may make you jump though. Ryan On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 13:37 -0400, Matt Liotta

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Matt Liotta
David E. Smith wrote: Ah, but I'm at the baseball game. At best, my laptop's in my car. (If I felt like putting up with traffic, that means it's in a nearby parking lot, ten or fifteen minutes away, plus however long it takes me to find a wi-fi hotspot in an unfamiliar downtown area. Most of

Re: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again

2007-08-07 Thread Butch Evans
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Cheapish. I have 20 plus sites out there so I need to watch the budget on this. I don't want too cheap though, more inexpensive than cheap. I need the ability to force all traffic to an uplink port. In other words I don't want

RE: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again

2007-08-07 Thread Mac Dearman
Dang Marlon - sounds like you need a routed (Dynamic or the real ugly word STATIC) network :-) I use VLAN tagging and Linksys (SRW208) switches at my towers in small outdoor (non vented) enclosures. I haven't lost but 1 due to lightning in the last year, but then I lost everything on the tower.

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread David E. Smith
Matt Liotta wrote: You are suggesting that there is a situation where there is a problem so important or complicated that only you can fix it yet you want to be able to fix it remotely via a cell phone at a baseball game. Yup! I refuse to tether myself to my job. I've done that over the

RE: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again

2007-08-07 Thread Russ Kreigh
You could use a Mikrotik RB532 with a 564 db, that'll get you to about 20mbps. Or, you could go the Mikrotik RB192 route, I think they will have 9 ethernet ports. The RB 150's have 5 ports. Then there is this too. http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwo/reliawave-snmp24b.html

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Matt Liotta
David E. Smith wrote: I refuse to tether myself to my job. I've done that over the last few years, and I'm not doing it any longer. I do accept, though, that there are some things that, out of the eight or so employees working under my boss, I'm the only one who knows them. The ability to fix

RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Russ Kreigh
I use a Verizon AudioVox 6600 to Terminal service into my Work PC, I run 1280 x 1024 on my main screen, so it requires scrolling. But, I have all my applications and everything I need. The 6600 has a slide down keyboard. The phone is probably 3 years old, not sure if you can still get them new

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Clint Ricker
Well, to chime in late and throw in my two cents... Don't bother. Back when I was in that sort of deal, I went down this road a few times and the reality is that it is not worth it. (I've done this on about 6 different devices and none of them are really viable for anything more than a simple

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Travis Johnson
For what it's worth, Circuit City had a cheap (Everex) laptop for $349 a few days ago. Why mess around with a small screen and keyboard on a phone when you can just buy a laptop and have everything you need? :) Travis Microserv Clint Ricker wrote: Well, to chime in late and throw in my

[WISPA] OT FYI: 5.4 GHz cert from FCC is in for BreezeACCESS VL

2007-08-07 Thread Patrick Leary
Just wanted to drop the community a note that the FCC grant for the new 5.4 GHz BreezeACCESS VL multipoint is in. We also have the grant for the BreezeNET B100 point-to-point product in 5.4 GHz. https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/Eas731GrantForm.cfm?mode=COP

Re: [WISPA] 60Ghz backhaul....

2007-08-07 Thread Mike Hammett
Depends on where you are. 60 GHz and 70\80 GHz gear is very location dependent. I believe 70\80 GHz gear goes further and has less fade. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread David E. Smith
Matt Liotta wrote: Is this a statement of I've used SSH and found it wanting, or I haven't done this but I don't think it'd work? Of course I have used SSH. That was one of the applications I was planning on using when I bought the phone. I have since learned my lesson. Why didn't you just

Re: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again

2007-08-07 Thread Mike Hammett
RB192. I have received pricing on it from Electro-Comm, waiting for my preferred vendors to step up. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc:

Re: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again

2007-08-07 Thread Mike Hammett
Provantage is a good place to buy from. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 3:04 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ethernet

Re: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again

2007-08-07 Thread Mike Hammett
I've heard that Ethernet only the MT boards move an impressive amount of data... don't quote me, but I heard almost 100 megs. Wireless would be the 20 - 30 megs you describe. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Russ

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Ryan Langseth
I am going to go off-topic here a little with a story. I have been working for InvisiMax for a little over a year now. I do not know who knows the history of this company for the last 1.5 years but we are just finishing up going through a very rough stage in the companies existence. Six months

Re: [WISPA] OT FYI: 5.4 GHz cert from FCC is in for BreezeACCESS VL

2007-08-07 Thread Mike Hammett
Congrats. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 2:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] OT FYI: 5.4 GHz cert

RE: [WISPA] OT FYI: 5.4 GHz cert from FCC is in for BreezeACCESS VL

2007-08-07 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Cool. When will the too be added to the Comnet program? :) hehe I had to poke you... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 2:58 PM To: WISPA General List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] OT FYI:

RE: [WISPA] OT FYI: 5.4 GHz cert from FCC is in for BreezeACCESS VL

2007-08-07 Thread Patrick Leary
Thanks Mike. Just glad it is out. I never much liked will be, preferring instead to be able to say is. Much less vapor! Patrick Leary AVP, Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit Alvarion at WiMAX World Chicago, September 25-27 Booth #409 -Original

RE: [WISPA] OT FYI: 5.4 GHz cert from FCC is in for BreezeACCESS VL

2007-08-07 Thread Patrick Leary
You should keep on poking Cliff. Working to make it happen. Patrick Leary AVP, Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit Alvarion at WiMAX World Chicago, September 25-27 Booth #409 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] Verizon Bandwidth

2007-08-07 Thread Mike Hammett
Terry Sponsler Account Manager Verizon Partner Solutions Phone 918-590-5317 Fax 918-562-5317 My new e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've worked with Terry in the past and have gotten good rates. Say I sent ya! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [WISPA] OT FYI: 5.4 GHz cert from FCC is in for BreezeACCESS VL

2007-08-07 Thread David E. Smith
Patrick Leary wrote: Thanks Mike. Just glad it is out. I never much liked will be, preferring instead to be able to say is. Much less vapor! Okay, then, dumb questions time! Will the pricing be comparable to the existing BreezeACCESS VL gear? In the real world (or at least in your testing)

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Jeff List
A hearty AMEN to that Ryan! Key-Man life insurance is another good idea. Jeff - Original Message - From: Ryan Langseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! I

RE: [WISPA] OT FYI: 5.4 GHz cert from FCC is in for BreezeACCESS VL

2007-08-07 Thread Patrick Leary
The DFS2 kicking in question is a good one David. We have learned that, at least in our customer field tests, that it does not happen that often. I think in one location it happened once a week, same time each week. I do not think we saw any case where it happened more than once a day. But the

RE: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again

2007-08-07 Thread Russ Kreigh
Yeah, I've heard that also. And I've got some good numbers going computer to computer through a RB532 with the Btest tool. However, our real world experience has been sadly different. Thanks, Russ Kreigh Network Engineer OnlyInternet.Net Broadband Wireless Supernova Technologies Office: (800)

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Felix A. Lopez
Dave: I was involved in a similar project as yours using Dexterra http://www.dexterra.com/ development software. Dexterra specializes in applications for mobile devices. They are located in Bothell Washington. For NOC monitoring, you may consider contacting CEO Tom Shaw and his team at WAMS -

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread John Scrivner
You really need your own OSS to manage all of your network. We looked around at smaller successful telecommunication companies and found that all of them had a good OSS. As such, we decided to do the same and it has been worth every penny. -Matt Sowhat is it? Scriv

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Matt Liotta
John Scrivner wrote: You really need your own OSS to manage all of your network. We looked around at smaller successful telecommunication companies and found that all of them had a good OSS. As such, we decided to do the same and it has been worth every penny. -Matt Sowhat is it?

RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Russ Kreigh
Yeah, I agree there, nothing like custom. We've developed an in-house system for our needs. I think it's just as good and in some area's better than any of the off-the-shelf one's I've seen, plus it's totally customized around our opererations. Russ Kreigh Network Engineer OnlyInternet.Net

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Blair Davis
I just use my razr v3i phone to view my system status pages and trip my remote reboots. I also keep my custamore phone and address list on it. If I can't resolve the problem with a remote reboot, and I need Telnet or ssh, I just plug the razr into my laptop and either work directly or PC

[WISPA] PtP Link Through Guy Wires

2007-08-07 Thread Mark Nash
There's a tower site that has mutliple towers. I'm wanting to mount a 5.8GHz Trango TLink-10 for a 24-mile link in such a way that it will hit a couple sets of guy wires from other towers about 100-200 yards away. I've not come across this situation yet. Are there any issues or problems with

Re: [WISPA] PtP Link Through Guy Wires

2007-08-07 Thread Travis Johnson
No. You won't even notice they are there. Install away. :) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: There's a tower site that has mutliple towers. I'm wanting to mount a 5.8GHz Trango TLink-10 for a 24-mile link in such a way that it will hit a couple sets of guy wires from other towers about

Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
Because its HEAVY! Because you have to Wait while it Turns On! Because you can't do it with one hand! We've been buying Used Vaios (12 screens 4lbs) on Ebay, for new techs, and putting in the ATT Edge Card. Been working well to enable the techs to do provisioning from the field. I've been using