Thanks! We live, we learn, we conquer!
At 10:50 AM 10/7/2009, you wrote:
>Mikrotik added it in 4.0beta4.. 4.0rc1 is out now too btw..
>
>Gerard
>
>Mike wrote:
> > v4.0beta3
> >
> > At 10:23 AM 10/7/2009, you wrote:
> >> Make sure you have the latest RouterOS installed.
> >>
> >> Bob-
> >>
> >>
The R5H cards are very sensitive and should never be powered up without
antenna. Any high powered card should not be powered up without antenna. I
would avoid power up any other radio card without at least a pigtail on it at
least but a high powered card need a antenna or risk burn the transmitt
R52N the one marked J2 is chain 0 and the one marked J3 is chain 1. If the mpci
connector towards you J2 is the one on the left.
/Eje
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From: "Robert West"
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 02:25:24
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] W
As I said in my previous email j2 is chain 0 and j3 is chain 1. By default v4
rc1 only enable chain 0.
/Eje
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From: Data Technology
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:09:59
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which connector is which o
I guessed right on the J2 connector.
One thing I did was set the card power to manual and lower it to 17db
I guess for testing & programming I could have went down to 5 db or so.
I also had an antenna connected to it.
I have always powered up cards with out antennas on them but I use
mostly cm9's
I was talking to an associate, and he said he had a "PCI compliance issue"
with a PtP link that was like 7 miles.
If each end is encrypted with an AES key (along with a ton of other stuff,
including a 2nd node of the same time as the 1st end), what is the issue?
Does PCI need something additional?
I use rubber ducks but I tend to get pretty aggravated with those things
flopping around on the pigtails. If I had a choice now I'd go for the dummy
loads and ditch the rubber ducks. The loads look like less of a hassle, I
have enough wires getting tangled into things.
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Complete 1G Full Duplex link in 11 GHz with 6' parabolic dishes, 5 yr
overnight replacement warranty: less than US$33,000. They will not
be available until Jan 2010.
I've got mine on order.
mc
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Rogelio wrote:
> You ever get an answer on this?
>
> (Just curious)
Patrick,
Not being one for gov money
We have excellent credit. We have that because we only expand at a
rate the will allow funding (new business) to cover our costs. So the
cycle goes:
1. Build out X number of Towers.
2. Market X number of Areas.
3. Install Customers to X*Y until well
Dragonwave and Ubiquiti aren't all that different afterall. ;-)
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: "Marco Coelho"
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:14 AM
To: ; "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re:
Yeah, what he said!
I'm gonna work REALLY hard to pay down debt and put some money in the bank
over the next 3 or 4 years. I want to be ready to pick those companies up.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: "Marco Coelho"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:20 AM
Marco,
What's the range with 11 GHz and 6' dishes ?
Rubens
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Marco Coelho wrote:
> Complete 1G Full Duplex link in 11 GHz with 6' parabolic dishes, 5 yr
> overnight replacement warranty: less than US$33,000. They will not
> be available until Jan 2010.
>
> I'v
I think the major barrier to wisp growth is lack of quality, NLOS spectrum.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:21 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barriers to W
I second that. The opportunists who saw a quick buck will be selling off
equipment in a few years. Good thing the government is giving them lots of
cash so they can buy some expensive gear to be sold later for cheap!
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireles
Bingo!
Sent from my Motorola Startac...
On Oct 8, 2009, at 12:15 PM, "Robert West" wrote:
> I think the major barrier to wisp growth is lack of quality, NLOS
> spectrum.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On
> Behalf Of
Does anyone have or sell a 11 ghz antenna 2 foot for remec mount like the
hp2-11-rr from Radiowaves. None of the big distis seem to have it in stock
and a 2-3 week lead time is too far out. Feel free to contact me offlist.
Thanks,
Mike Goicoechea
m...@cielosystems.net
Cielo Systems
-
Imagine WISPs using 700mhz to service their customers. No stimulus package
needed.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur C
Exactly! So instead, they want to squander it and hope to get cash from
selling or big license fees. A little bit backwards, don't ya think. So
they give out a few billion bucks and it still doesn't cover 50%. If they
would even just light license good spectrum we'd be all over it with no
stimu
> Stimulus: I don't believe in it and did not apply.
I want to understand people's opposition to the Broadband Stimulus programs.
Rick and other people opposed to the stimulus, can you expand on why you
don't believe in the Stimulus and why you didn't apply? Are there things you
think the govern
depends on a lot of different variables, but with clear Fresnel zones,
you're looking at just shy of 20 miles with 99.995% of reliability.
That was my first quick run at it. I will be doing the real path
analysis later this week.
Marco
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Rubens Kuhl wrote:
> Marco
>Are there things you think the government - FCC, congress, etc. - could do
to help ISPs and expanding broadband?
Seriously? Name one thing the government has done right in the last 200
years. The list should start and end with the military and that can be
argued either way. The only thing the
One of my issues is that it isn't necessary. We make money at this
business, or at least try to. If an area is underserved or not served,
that's usually because of middle mile issues or terrain. It's all line of
sight and no one, not even the people trying to start up a wisp with this
"free" mon
No please, let's not go there Josh. Obviously lots of people in the
world, not just in the US are going to disagree vehemently with you.
That's a completely useless conversation for a public list. Private
conversation over a beer? Sure ;-). In a worst case, what you see as a
banana gone bad
The problem I've seen in general is that a lot of areas are cherry-
picked. Anything with any reasonable density (say, the Village centers
in a Town) already have access. You can't really make a business case
based on what people can afford to roll out service in many areas out
here because
Whatever happened to the American work ethic? What ever happened to
the American way of working towards the future? Both have been
replaced by a want-it-now instant gratification
mentality. Traditionally, a small business could become a big
business by grit, determination, and hard work.
It
Yes. However my point in it all is that if the government wants to help
then cash really isn't the answer. You can throw money at anything and
still have no useable result. Cash versus spectrum. I need tools, not
money. With the correct spectrum we wouldn't have to worry about cherry
picking.
Mike took the words right out of my mouth.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:20
Title: Thank You,
Part of the issue for the rural markets is the
actual household density. There are some areas that on their own, will
not sustain a viable business model even if you have grant money to
fund the initial build out. The internet should be viewed as a utility.
When other utility
Some are conservatives and don't believe the government should have spent a
dime of the ARRA. (I'm conservative, but not that conservative... they
should have at least built roads).
Some don't want the government red tape.
Some have plans and don't want to stray from them.
Some don't think they
> I also further the idea that
> release of public spectrum in the UHF bands would be a great shot in
> the arm towards the goal of ubiquitous broadband. Cheaper than a
> stimulus package too.
OK. We are getting somewhere. You do want the government to do something.
You want the government to ope
In general, in the rural areas I work in, spectrum availability isn't
ever the issue. In cities and sometimes village centers, yes, but not
in the areas that should be addressed with broadband funding.
Chuck
On Oct 8, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Robert West wrote:
> Yes. However my point in it all is
Hear, hear Mike! Well said! Are you running for office? A vote against
nearly ANY congressional incumbent in 2010 is a vote for REAL change!
I'll add that many of the applications we've seen are from those that have
watched their "Angel Funding" & risk venture capital sources dry up with the
po
The stimulus will only make things worse in this regard. The areas that
REALLY need it, still won't.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: "Chuck Bartosch"
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:15 PM
T
Let's not forget that the aim of the stimulus grant was to get money moving
again, create jobs, etc. People getting broadband is only an after thought.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: "Mike"
Se
Thank You,I think reasonable white spaces policy would solve a lot of it. If
you could serve a 60 or 100 mile radius from 1 tower in Alaska, Texas, Montana,
Nevada, Utah, Dakotas, etc. you probably could make a good business case.
Obviously those same power levels wouldn't work east of the Mis
Tim must be new to WISPA. ;-)
WISPA has done a lot of work with the FCC and TV WhiteSpaces. There have
been many filings with WISPA's official position.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: "Tim Sy
Not going there on this list, but there is a long list its done right
including funding the development of the Internet upon which you make
your living. I would add the highway system as well.
--Curtis
Josh Luthman wrote:
>> Are there things you think the government - FCC, congress, etc. -
I really would prefer the government do little except legislate and
execute that legislation.
I think a portion of the newly available UHF frequencies be allocated
to the public domain similar to the existing space available for
unlicensed usage.
The technologies I would embrace foremost would
I know it's not FUNNY FRIDAY yet but as Flip used to say, "the devil made me
do it"
Ya know, the IRS (US Government) took over a whore house in Nevada. Now some
law says the IRS has to run a running business to try to repay the
government for back taxes or incase the owner wins it back on appeal.)
Exactly. As I said earlier, the free money is sure to have a bunch of Joe
blows and hucksters emerge as "Wireless Internet" companies only to do such
a poor and uncaring job that it will give the rest of us a black eye and a
bad taste in the mouth of future customers. Time will tell and with
ever
Well said!
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:56 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barriers to WISP growth
Seriously? Name one thing the government has done ri
The government will never do things right. It all depends on what side of
the fence you are on. To walk softly here and bring a hint of religion into
a political discussion. Good and evil. Good is the same as evil and
evil is the same as good for a lot of things. Depends on the side of the
We are looking into a DHCP delivery method that doesn't require the use
of Mac Addresses to enter. We are using all Alvarion VL equipment (5.x &
900) the problem is:
We want Customer to plug in device and get a DHCP address, easy right.
Okay hard part, without the use of Mac addresses how can we t
But it sounds like this has PPPoE written all over it. What is the barrier
to PPPoE? Maybe we can look at that end of it as well to see if the
objections to it can be weeded out. Not to push that but I think some would
at least like to know why things have been rejected.
Bob-
-Original Me
You have to have a way to authenticate the client. A radius database with
MAC's that you setup is one, a PPPoE login is another, and the last is a Walled
Garden Hotspot with user name and password. (that I can think of) I guess you
can use WPA/WEP only to get them on but not sure you can do an
Having spent some time in some rugged spots in the world I can say by
comparison that Im happy with some things the government does. Clean,
potable water is nice as are decent roads, fire protection and lack of
Malaria. It aint all bad.
Chris
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...
Chris, thank you for that reality check. I agree with you. My only wish is
that those areas you mentioned is where the government stopped. Let business
do business. Let me make a buck without the government telling me how or giving
someone else the tax money I pay to try to compete with me.
Robert West wrote:
> But it sounds like this has PPPoE written all over it. What is the barrier
> to PPPoE? Maybe we can look at that end of it as well to see if the
> objections to it can be weeded out. Not to push that but I think some would
> at least like to know why things have been rejecte
And that's pretty much what they said about the Romans!
Had to add it..
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of chris cooper
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:03 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barriers
I understand that but he was looking for a way to track who was connecting
to his network and pulling from the DHCP without knowing the MAC ID of the
client. He wants to put a name to the client device, so to speak. Plain
DHCP is fine but it's pretty faceless as you said, but with the client not
This has DHCP option 82 written all over it. It's very popular in a
DOCSIS environment. I assume the Alvarion equipment doesn't support
option 82. If this is the case you could do it via an option 82 capable
switch. The switch could tell you what port, MAC, IP, etc.
Good luck.
-Eric
Cameron K
I've never seen that. Is it the switch that gathers the info or what?
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DHCP options
T
You guys are starting to develop this...I'm listening This option 82
sounds interested. Google here I come.
-Cameron
> I've never seen that. Is it the switch that gathers the info or what?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.or
Okay, I see the option 82.. I'm totally new to this one. How do you
log the info from it?
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: R
Yes, and there's more.
If you have a subscriber re-distributing the service through a Wi-Fi AP
(such as an apartment manager offering free Internet to the renters from
your service), you can get a lot of information to help you discover it.
For example, NetStumbler (if you do a truckroll to the
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 16:37 -0400, Cameron Kilton wrote:
> We want Customer to plug in device and get a DHCP address, easy right.
> Okay hard part, without the use of Mac addresses how can we tell which
> customers are what and log this into a database. Is there a way to
> control this via the rad
I have no idea how the Alvarion equipment handles bridging, but when I
have needed to bridge the CPE and also give the client an address via
DHCP, I have done it with a Mikrotik DHCP server, inputting the MAC of
the radio, but specifying "use src mac address". That lets the client
plug whatever the
They got that all backwards though at the FCC. First auction off 700 Mhz and
then give all these ISP's a shot at $$$. But, then again, I don't think the FCC
had us WISP's in mind that much with the stimulus money?
Scottie
-- Original Message --
From: "Rob
Agreed. And to take down those stupid height restrictions on whitespace
spectrum.
Scottie
-- Original Message --
From: "Robert West"
Reply-To: WISPA General List
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:06:38 -0400
>
>The only true Broadband Stimulus would be to open
Brian makes good points, as long as the FCC would allow any ISP the rights to
this: "It's time to do the same for the internet and broadband. Not just one
time funding for build outs, but also money to help sustain the operations over
time in markets that just can't do it otherwise." The Rural T
I think it should not be auctioned. Not to get into the details, but the
government has somehow subsidized or gave money to the big telco's over the
last 30 - 40 years just to get a single line of communications to our
home(Brian eluded to this in earlier posts). Most telco's have benefited
gre
Maybe he should have legalized marijuana? Would have probably done better! J/K!
Scottie
-- Original Message --
From: "Mike Hammett"
Reply-To: WISPA General List
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:52:38 -0500
>Let's not forget that the aim of the stimulus grant wa
"put some money in the bank"
The question is: which currency?
With the dollar falling (or failing) what good is it going to do in the bank?
I guess I'll just keep pouring it back into the company because its
gonna be worthless soon.
Any other ideas guys?
-RickG
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Mar
Oh, hell yes, Brother-man! This is looking good. Can you then block that
mac?
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:29 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DHCP
Ditto :)
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:
>>Are there things you think the government - FCC, congress, etc. - could do
> to help ISPs and expanding broadband?
>
> Seriously? Name one thing the government has done right in the last 200
> years. The list should start and end w
They're politicians. They only have to be able to say they offered cash,
actually handing it over is less than secondary.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:54 PM
To: WIS
I don't know but I heard that the wireless mic lobby in Washington is a
pretty influential bunch.
Bob-
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subj
The government would figure out a way to lose money on that too.
They could provide the bulk of it to Baptists. Ie, folks who really don't
need it.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Thursday, Octobe
"I'll add that many of the applications we've seen are from those that have
watched their "Angel Funding" & risk venture capital sources dry up with the
poor economy and their poorer performance."
Even worse, their poor performance drys up their funding in good times!
-RickG
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 a
Huh? The high system?
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003226851_fragile26.html
http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2008/06/part_one_america_is_falling_ap.html
http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2008/05/09/us-infrastructure-is-falling-apart/
As far as making a living upon th
At one time, we decided to try our hand at a salt water fish aquarium.
Before we began, I read a book on the subject. It started out saying
that the aquarium in not he fish's natural environment and they
survive (barely) in spite of what we do.
I liken this to government. Any and all of them, not j
Au, Ag
RickG wrote:
"put some money in the bank"
The question is: which currency?
With the dollar falling (or failing) what good is it going to do in the bank?
I guess I'll just keep pouring it back into the company because its
gonna be worthless soon.
Any other ideas guys?
-RickG
On Thu,
Chuck Profito wrote:
I know it's not FUNNY FRIDAY yet but as Flip used to say, "the devil made me
do it"
Ya know, the IRS (US Government) took over a whore house in Nevada. Now some
law says the IRS has to run a running business to try to repay the
government for back taxes or incase the ow
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