Chuck Daddy Wy-Fi is in. What's the deal? Who do I have to talk to?
What's the process?
Chuck Profito wrote:
ATT Wants to Dump Riverside Network on City
One of the legacy muni-Fi networks will have new (or no) owners: Esme Vos
writes at MuniWireless.com about the current state of the
Start with Steve Reneker, CIO of Riverside, California
http://www.muniwireless.com/2010/03/11/whats-up-with-riverside-citywide-wifi-network/
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373
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-Original Message-
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:11:46
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIVERSIDE NEEDS YOU
Start with Steve Reneker, CIO of Riverside,
If you are competing on price alone you will always be chasing the
customer. The telco has deep pockets. Providing DSL to the customer is
secondary to them. They are more interested in the subsidy they get from
that line, and adding a number for the next lobby opportunity.
There are
How weird. We need exactly this too. A building we're in that used to be
two, but were combined, and each have their own service drops. There's a
difference in ground potential.
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
I've seen a telephone (copper pair)
Travis Johnson wrote:
True... but we are also heavily discounting the installation (down to
free)... it's hard to make money if you do a free install, and then a
month later they get a DSL promo in the mail and switch. You have lost
about $200 on that one customer.
And _every_ cell phone
Or or most of you doing like we did:
Old Plans: 384K $33/month, 512K $45/month
New Plans 1M:$35/month, 2M $48/month
Existing customer could stay or move. New customers get new rates
Sam Tetherow wrote:
Travis Johnson wrote:
True... but we are also heavily discounting the installation
As of now the SW guys haven't contacted me nor replied to the post on the forum.
Greg
On Mar 11, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Ben Moore wrote:
Hi Greg,
Just wanted to let you know that this won't go unanswered...This was
discussed last night and one of our SW guys will be reaching out (if they
True... but we are also heavily discounting the installation (down to
free)... it's hard to make money if you do a free install, and then a
month later they get a DSL promo in the mail and switch. You have lost
about $200 on that one customer.
And _every_ cell phone company in the nation
Excellent news. Do you know if there is an easy way now to see where
the TDWR radars are (for curiosity's sake)?
Randy
On 3/11/2010 3:56 PM, Jack Unger wrote:
Randy,
The 5 GHz equipment approval process is currently on hold at the request
of the FAA and the NTIA. Airport Terminal Doppler
Ignore my question - I've been out of the office and didn't read the
responses that already answered it.
On 3/15/2010 10:27 AM, Randy Cosby wrote:
Excellent news. Do you know if there is an easy way now to see where
the TDWR radars are (for curiosity's sake)?
Randy
On 3/11/2010 3:56
list of frequencys per site.anyone?
--- On Mon, 3/15/10, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote:
From: Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 legal ptp radios
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 12:38 PM
Ignore my question - I've been
In the enforcement letters, it mentions licensing some of the 5.4
frequencies. Is that really even an option?
Randy
On 3/13/2010 9:50 AM, Jack Unger wrote:
That requirement was done several years ago to avoid military radars.
Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
If this radar operates at 5600-5650 why
I requested this from the FCC last Friday. This morning they advised me
that they are going to discuss my request with the FAA and NTIA.
I'll advise as soon as I hear more.
jack
Jason Bailey wrote:
list of frequencys per site.anyone?
--- On Mon, 3/15/10, Randy Cosby
I don't recall hearing or reading that but I don't have a photographic
memory (at least not anymore). Can you cut and paste a copy of the
language that you are referring to?
Randy Cosby wrote:
In the enforcement letters, it mentions licensing some of the 5.4
frequencies. Is that really
Maybe I read too much into it, but here it he language I was referring to.
*
Radio stations must be licensed by the FCC pursuant to 47 U.S.C. S: 301.
*The only exception to this licensing requirement is for certain
transmitters using or operating at a power level or mode of operation that
Randy,
Thanks for the copy and paste.
What happened is that the WISP took a 5.8 GHz Motorola and re-tuned it
for the 5470-5725 MHz band. Therefore they were using it on a band that
it was not certified to operate on thus they were using a radio that
was not certified on the frequency that
Hey Guys,
Trying to choose the best channel for a new installation.
http://ewbhonduras.tumblr.com/post/450395382/1hr-wispy-rf-2-4-capture-from-the-horizontal
This is what I see, I attached the WiSPY along with a laptop, and
mounted both on the tower we are planning on using for one hour.
The whole spectrum is pretty much toast, but if you're tied to that polarity
11 would be best.
Also, what is the best way to handle crimping gel-filled cat5e cable?
We are having a heck of a time with the ends slipping off and the
individual conductors slipping out.
Are you talking about the
REVIEW OUTLOOK MARCH 15, 2010
Broadband Trojan Horse
The FCC has a new plan but doesn't want a vote.
Health care isn't the only policy arena in which the Obama Administration
aims to ram through controversial new rules. The Federal Communications
Commission is set to unveil a national broadband
It's those damn communists. They're on the march again. Quick, man the
barricades!
Wait, I'm wrong. It's ATT and Verizon. They're on the march again.
Quick, open the gates to the City.
Jeff Broadwick wrote:
REVIEW OUTLOOK MARCH 15, 2010
Broadband Trojan Horse
The FCC has a new plan but
Now for a twist
Got a customer with a need for a small tower spot in or close
to Hardinsburg KY. They will also need a T1. The antenna
will be a two way radio LMR antenna.
Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
Israel,
What channels can you use there? Can you go beyond 11? Is 5.8GHz an
option? If you have to use 2.4GHz you'd better use something that handles
interference well like Ubiquiti's AirMax at the very least.
When you find a way to keep the gel from acting as a lubricant and
Has anyone had any experiences good or bad with the RB750/750G as it relates to
the toughness of the Ethernet ports? I had an RB750 go down. Don't know if it
was due to some not very nearby lightning.
Greg
WISPA
A misplaced personal opinion rant:
The new United States, where everything is written and reported as us vs
the nefarious them, where everything is a conspiracy.
As if the sensationalist, yellow dog journalistic title, Broadband
Trojan Horse wasn't a big enough clue, I knew this article would be
Blake:
They need it built or looking for space? Hit me up offlist. It's about 2 or
so hours away from me.
Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com
On Mar 15, 2010, at 4:52 PM, Blake Bowers wrote:
Now for a twist
Got a customer with a
Wow, Jack and Patrick.
I respect the two of you as much as any two people in this industry. Has
the day come when posting an article about broadband, from a respected
national newspaper, warrants this sort of a response on list? I wasn't
trying to throw a bomb...I don't really have a firm
Hi Jeff,
Mine was not a return bomb to you Jeff, just a general comment about the
state of our society. To be sure though it was not a news article, it
was an opinion piece and one, in my opinion, laden with the codes du
jour intended to drive people apart into one camp against the other.
About
Sorry, meant that offlist to Jeff. Thread is over, for me. Sorry for the
list pollution.
Patrick
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 3:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re:
Will not be buying any more of them. Don't know how these things ever got
FCC/CE certified. Plug the ehernet into them and very broad noise is emmited
from the 145mhz-160mhz band. Local fire chief was not very happy with what
this did to his 2-way radio equipment.
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O.
I've got about 40 to 50 of the 750's in the field and I've not heard one
problem from any customer, (FYI one of these customers is the local
Volunteer Fire Dept.) I'm gona dig out my old scope and test this out
tonight..
Ryan
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
As soon as I plugged in an Ethernet cable the scanner started to go crazy.
Also my fire pager's squelch opened up and portable two way radio did as
well.
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
-Original Message-
From:
They have been very stable for us.
WISPA Wants You! Join today!
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Are you using shield cabling? I haven't seen any problem like that.
Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
As soon as I plugged in an Ethernet cable the scanner started to go crazy.
Also my fire pager's squelch opened up and portable two way radio did as
well.
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Do not feed the trolls :)
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote:
It's those damn communists. They're on the march again. Quick, man the
barricades!
Wait, I'm wrong. It's ATT and Verizon. They're on the march again.
Quick, open the gates to the City.
Jeff
Using shielded cable but it doesn't help because of plastic Ethernet ports.
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
_
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Bret Clark
Sent: Monday, March
Hi Patrick,
I'm sorry. My note was more directed at my good friend Jack than at you.
:-)
I'm not a fan of the government's intervention in the marketplace. I know
you've been frustrated too. $7 billion approved for broadband buildout a
year ago and they are just now getting the money out. I
DANG IT!
Now it's my turn to apologize for putting this onlist!
Sorry folks, just 3 friends trying to hash something out.
Regards,
Jeff
Jeff Broadwick
ImageStream
800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can)
+1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l)
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
I would try a different (i.e., better) AC-DC power converter before
blaming the board.
Rubens
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:
Will not be buying any more of them. Don't know how these things ever got
FCC/CE certified. Plug the ehernet into them and
I have had problems with ethernet causing noise on 145-150 Mhz also.
This was not Mikrotik anything.
I think it is several RF sources mixing in the switch and retransmitting
a harmonic. It depends on what the combination of transmit Freqs at the
site is. Shielded cable, ferrite beads and
If throughput requirements are up to 10 Mbps, forcing a 10 Mbps
Full-Duplex connection will change noise from the 125 MHz range
(100Mbps with 4B5B coding) to the 20 MHz range (10Mbps with Manchester
coding).
Rubens
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Gary Garrett ggarr...@nidaho.net wrote:
I
Being an old EMS and Fire Chief I can tell you - chances are it could
be their cruddy equipment.
Its obvious they are not on digital yet...
I could tell you some really big horror stories from my EMS days ...
Volunteer Dept's are even more fun (done both sides of the fence)
If you really want
Ironically, NBP still calls for low cost near free networks to be built.
Ironically the city wont event take it for free, DUH!!! Looks like they
realize that SUPPORT of the network and reoccurring costs of that are the
BIG COSTs.
What, really, the city doesn't want to run and be responsible for
The way to compete with $15 DSL is NOT TO. The day we have to, we might as
well pack it up, and hope that we reserved a little bit of time over the
previous few years to plan for our second career, after wireless.
I'm a firm believer that we are better off trying to increase capacity, than
Having worked for a major metro EMS service, as well as a
major metro Fire service, as well as presently being the
Chief of a rural department, and president of our local
Chiefs association, I can tell you - you are a dick.
But I digress.
Lots of volunteer fire departments out there are doing
With apologies to all on the list, I meant to send that privately.
Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
- Original Message -
From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com
To: WISPA General List
As a ran out of job by nextel moto radio tech,the problems generated can be a
simple harmonic,but ,neverthless!most departments operate vhf analog
systems,and cannot justify digital systems...they suck!! and are very
expensive!!and I as a wisp know that if i were causing harmful interference to
The only good statement out of this which may deserve Merit to us WISP is:
At the urging of liberal advocacy groups like Free Press and Public
Knowledge, Mr. Genachowski also wants to use the national broadband
plan as a vehicle for returning to the bad old 1990s era of open access
I agree this is not a Mikrotik thing, but rather a problem with ethernet in
general. Seems the HAMS don't like Ethernet either.
http://www.hamuniverse.com/linksys.html
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
-Original Message-
From:
Absolutley. Digital is coming, but it ain't ready for prime time, at
least for the Fire Service.
Thanks.
Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
- Original Message -
From: Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com
To:
I would agree - was joking...
Ask Atlantic City how well Digital worked... I can tell you from
personal experience.
Ask Philadelphia City how well digital has worked...
Trunking on the scene can be scary...
Roll me a field Com and day
Cincinnati Fire - just this January was screaming for
To all, Glenn and I have worked this out via email.
I have apologized.
Back to the Ethernet issues!
Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
- Original Message -
From: Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com
To:
There really is very little difference between these tyrants and the Iranian
Mullahs.
Both need to be deposed instantly tried for their crimes against humanity.
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any recommendations on the best jailbreak program?
I used Backra1n and it ran fine for a couple of weeks then crashed for no
apparent reason.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, March 12,
http://www.quickpwn.com/
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Jerry Richardson
One of the things you have to keep in mind, is that you really do have to
offer your customers a decent value for their dollars.35 Bux for a
fraction of a meg is darn steep pricing these days. We offer a 300K for 25
and 2 meg for 38.50, which is reasonably competitive.
You don't' need to
BIG surprise!!!notice near the bottom of the page..windows 7 sells 90 million
copies already!!!get used to the extra clicks to get to things!!btw, I run a
Blackberry,no use for iphone...just use logmein or your fav vpn and a
laptop.Life is easy!!
--- On Tue, 3/16/10, Josh Luthman
I pay 70.00 a month for multiple static, 6mbps down/768 up.
Att dsl.
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-Original Message-
From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:14:55
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
One
The really big wave of mass stupidity.
I can't imagine how ANYONE would want Congress's or the FCC's fingers on
ANYTHING.There is only ONE way to ensure that things get more expensive,
cost us terribly, and work worse... and that's to put the people who know
absolutely NOTHING about real
Interfering with emergency comm is a sure way to generate a very fast response
from local law enforcement. Do it in a major metro area and the FBI shows up.
Seize gear, ask questions later.
Its very serious stuff and is taken quite seriously by law enforcement.
Take the time to understand
Good advice,Our ham radio community is very good at fox hunting(finding hidden
transmitters)We jump quickly to find any form of interference to any of our
public safety bands...I'm sure you have others in your area?Befriend them,they
can be your best friend!
--- On Tue, 3/16/10,
can you name me one thing that the government has given that it has
not first taken?
funny I keep asking - but never given an answer.
Im with you MDK
On Mar 16, 2010, at 1:20 AM, MDK wrote:
The really big wave of mass stupidity.
I can't imagine how ANYONE would want Congress's or the
Freedom...I'm feeding the trolls...hate to see anyone hungry?I never post this
much,but i love watching this list and about to join $$$ with wispa.All keep it
up...feeding the trolls!
--- On Tue, 3/16/10, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote:
From: Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com
Subject:
Scottie, the problem is nothing at all to do with open access.This
open access has the effect of fixing the type of access. Once you
build a network, and a third party mandates you share it at prices they set,
no more networks will be built. The prices will be fixed, the technology
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