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Hit me off list and I can offer some suggestions.
Brian
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:24 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF Reform Bill Introduced - The most
At 7/29/2010 08:01 AM, Brian wrote:
Hit me off list and I can offer some suggestions.
As I mentioned, the 75% rule only applies to wireline providers
(i.e., cable), so mapping WISP coverage buys nothing.
The Boucher-Terry bill has nothing in it to help WISPs and plenty to
hurt them, including
Ok, since we have been talking grounding, what would be the proper
grounding method for a 'typical' water tower (bowl with maintenance rail
and ladder up the leg). I have a Canopy 900 AP with a vertical antenna
mounted at the top using shielded CAT5 routed down the bowl and ladder.
There is a
Fred,
That is understood, however I think that WISPA may try to lobby to
have the term wireline removed such that any technology that delivers the
defined broadband and voice services should be qualified to meet the 75%
requirement. This is still a bill and not a law so there are
Is cable not considered a wireline service?
Regards,
Jeff
Jeff Broadwick
ImageStream
800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can)
+1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l)
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Webster
Sent: Thursday, July
Yes but if the cable companies could also ally with wireless carriers to get
other areas excluded from USF subsidies, the field would be a more level one
should the cable companies try to compete in other markets. We might also
get Clearwire and the cellular carriers to support the position
You'd think there would be an excellent legal argument to fight that.
Seems it'd be difficult to enact a law that in effect discriminates
against certain classes of providers, especially since WISPs are the
only pure play broadband providers out there. Theorectically the
re-configured USF is meant
The IDEA of an HSA (Health Savings Account) is not for the employer to save
money.
See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_savings_account
It's for the employee to have a employer-funded savings account for medical
expenses. Putting the normal, small expenses on the employee. So if
Yes Patrick I agree with you but remember who is lobbying this bill. They
will play to win even though the government is not supposed to be picking
winners..
Brian
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From: Patrick Leary [mailto:ple...@apertonet.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 10:37 AM
To:
At 7/29/2010 10:34 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
Yes but if the cable companies could also ally with wireless carriers to get
other areas excluded from USF subsidies, the field would be a more level one
should the cable companies try to compete in other markets. We might also
get Clearwire and the
I am so glad you moved over to the Wispa list Fred! I don't always agree
with you, but I REALLY appreciate how much thought and detail you put into
your responses.
Regards,
Jeff
Jeff Broadwick
ImageStream
800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can)
+1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l)
-Original
Anyone have the 30dB Dishes in stock?
-Gary-
- Original Message -
From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:43 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge
For this I would use two Rocket M5's with the 30dB
Fred,
Does the bill state that the voice and data service have to be
provided by the SAME carrier or just that the consumer has access to them?
Would cellular service qualify in that case? Thought is that is there is
cell or CLEC service and a WISP also covers the same area with only
Streakwave in Salt Lake
- Jerry
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Kosinet Wireless
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 8:46 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Speed Bridge
Anyone have the 30dB Dishes in
Yes, he is very informative! Thanks Fred. Always helps for everyone to know
the other side of the fence and get a reality check of the world we play in.
Brian
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
Sent:
At 7/29/2010 11:51 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
Fred,
Does the bill state that the voice and data service have to be
provided by the SAME carrier or just that the consumer has access to them?
It says that they purchase it from the unsupported non-incumbent
provider. So that implies at
Hello,
We have been considering changing our email provider from Everyone.net
to another service and wondered if anyone else shares our experience. We
started using their service in 2008, migrating our older Linux and
Windows servers to them. Initially, they were very helpful, and went to
Anyone cover that town?
Kevin
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I'm not sure how others might answer this, but here goes.
Unless water towers are constructed differently than those I have dealt
with, they are by nature a solidly grounded structure.
Having said that, the only problem I would see is having any ungrounded
metal on the side of that tower which
I will get flak for this, don't know why.
We use Google Apps Partner Edition. We initially started because it
was free. We have had almost 0 issues with our email. It's months
between ANY issues. The issues themselves are usually the older
generation stuck on Eudora/Outlook interfaces and get
If you've put in your own ground rod and not bonded it to the electrical
ground, then you're doing more harm than good. That will create a ground
potential difference and smoke your equipment. You absolutely must have all
the grounds tied together. I would make sure the water tower, your
Also, if you want to know proper grounding practices, try to get your hands on
the Motorola R56 manual. I would imagine you can find the pdf floating on the
web somewhere.
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Patrick Wheeland
Sent: Thu 7/29/2010 1:07
Wow that's memories, I used to be the Fire Chief in Belfair in the
early/mid-90's, but to answer your question no I don't..
Forbes
On 7/29/2010 10:04 AM, Kevin Sullivan wrote:
Anyone cover that town?
Kevin
Paul,
I would suggest using a WISPA vendor member for your training needs.
www.linktechs.net is a vendor member and provides Mikrotik certification
training.
WISPA vendor members help in providing financial support for WISPA and
it's efforts in promoting our industry. You can find a list
Ok, so I am in the market for a Generator. Looking for probably
30-45kW. I've heard people say I need a PMG Exciter?? Anyone with
experience in doing this? It's to support our datacenter, a few racks,
a few 2200 UPS's and PDU's, and Cooling. I find all kinds of different
ones on eBay and
Stick with Kohler.
There are tons of brands - however... The Sine wave that is produced buy
others will absolutely kill your UPS's
Take it from someone that has learned the hard way.
Cat has some higher end that work very well - as well. Kohler does much of
what the PMG will do for you
Agreed, very much so!
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 7/29/2010 10:41 AM, Jeff Broadwick wrote:
I am so glad you moved over to the Wispa list Fred! I don't always agree
with you, but I REALLY appreciate how much thought and detail you put into
2 out of how many?
We had a NASTY storm last night. Lost 1 nic card out of hundreds and
hundreds of them.
We used to loose modems from time to time too.
In my mind, you're just going to loose some once in a while during storms.
Part of the cost of doing business, just like flat tires out on
Don¹t skimp on the transfer switch. THE PMG exciter is a way of
providing good clean power to the voltage regulator. It¹s basically a kick
butt magnet.
Justin
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http://www.mtin.net/blog
Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support
From: Chuck Hogg
At 7/29/2010 04:32 PM, you wrote:
Agreed, very much so!
Thanks guys!
And I do appreciate the help I get from you on all of my silly little
equipment questions.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 7/29/2010 10:41 AM, Jeff Broadwick wrote:
I am so
Ours is a 35kW from Cummins Power Generation. We chose to run ours on propane
so as to require little maintenance and full independence from other utilities
(Natural Gas). We sized our tank so as to have plenty of runtime and the
propane co is just down the road in case we need an emergency
You could also simply use both.
there are kits to allow either/or for most genset's
On Jul 29, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
Ours is a 35kW from Cummins Power Generation. We chose to run ours on propane
so as to require little maintenance and full independence from other
How big of a tank is that propane generator? How long does that give you
power?
On Jul 29, 2010 5:25 PM, Paul Gerstenberger pa...@hrec.coop wrote:
Ours is a 35kW from Cummins Power Generation. We chose to run ours on
propane so as to require little maintenance and full independence from other
Except today based on GAO reports, Rural America had something like 34%
unserved and Urban America had something like 25% unserved on average.
I think Brian's data suggested that the USA was something like 24% unserved on
average.
My point here is that USF is already going to areas that
Oversize. It's the most practical way to ensure stability when powering
a load that can have a poor power factor or a leading power factor.
Datacenter loads being a perfect example. Switching power supplies with
poor input filtering, UPSes that dump their entire load on the genset
all at once,
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 13:44 -0500, Jim Patient wrote:
I would suggest using a WISPA vendor member for your training needs.
He already asked about a WISPA vendor member (Mikrotik specifically). I
simply offered the information on my training opportunity coming up next
week. Of the HUNDREDS
Oooo!
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-Original Message-
From: Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com
Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:35:42
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA]
I do see Butch's point. Need to relax on the wording.
My personal recommendation is to use Butch as he is the first and last
consultant I have needed.
On Jul 29, 2010 7:49 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:
Oooo!
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From:
I second Butch as a personal recommendation. We haven't had to use him
much, but he has always had great recommendations for questions I have
asked on the list as well as questions I wanted to ask and someone
else beat me to it.
Also, his QOS script for RouterOS is pretty good as well!
On Thu,
I agree with Josh's comment. Butch has been the first and last MikroTik
consultant we've needed.
Best,
Brad
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Alan Bryant
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 7:16 PM
To: WISPA General List
roflol
I'm glad I'm not the only one that does silly things from time to time!
Having said that let me drift this conversation a little bit.
What are the reasons to use a consultant?
For me it's mainly two fold.
1: I can hire the best in the field. I'm not stuck with what talents I've
got.
On Jul 29, 2010 7:49 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:
Oooo!
SIGH! Sorry, list.
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* Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation*
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Consultants are significantly cheaper to start with, I think. I can't
afford someone full time.
If I can't do something then I go to Butch. Have him train me once
and I go from there. He is my back up in case I'm stuck at some
point.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100
Available 2015.
JOKE!
But.. Could be true. Who knows. Not me...
Joe-
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:52 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA]
I'll hang out and be in awe. Then again, I am lacking in brain cells.
Me-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 12:45 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How is your grounding plan?
They say August. But that would be the happy announcement email from them.
Availability, probably October! :)
Will be on the boat for at least a month.
But I'm ready!
Bob-
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of
It does when you are promoting your products and services as a Vendor
Member and you are NOT a WISPA Vendor member.
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Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services
Office:
I need a cheap / easy app to monitor a temporary link setup. Must be able to
monitor and Email / Txt me if there are any outages...
Preferably Windows based, as I don't have time to do this one myself.
What are you guys running?
Thanks, Gary.
Use the free version of PRTG
- Jerry
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of KosiNet Wireless
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 8:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Monitor / Notify App
I need a cheap / easy app to
The dude :) Cheap, FREE! Windows! E-mails, SMS :)
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Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
LIVE On-Line
I think I speak for many of us when I say I'm not going to stick with
WISPA if people are going to act like this.
Butch was on the board at one point in time which has to count for
something in this matter.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH
If it's a Mikrotik link you can do it right in the radio.
What equipment are you using?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:30 PM, KosiNet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote:
I need a cheap / easy app to
Man, that was on a recent discovery/science channel show about lighting.
Kewl stuff. They talked about how most of this went up vs down i.e.
you see the trail starting up from a tower or tree in some cases vs how
most people see it come down.Acutally, once you get done with the
video ::
Yes a few months to fill a vacancy. He also did work with CALEA committee
among other thngs. Not saying he did not do things for WISPA, but that still
does not give him the right to advertise his products.
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Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+,
My point still remains. If someone's smoking in a bar and I don't
like it, I leave.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Dennis Burgess
dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote:
Yes a few months to fill a
Ya, but that person is not paying in the bar, and I am ..
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Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
LIVE
Life isn't fair. My example goes both ways. No one is forcing you to
drink here.
Maybe we should have a poll with all the paying members and see who
all has a problem with it? Base rules on the decisions of the group.
Are we really going to make a rule that says non-members can't offer help?
He reminds me of Tom!
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net wrote:
I am so glad you moved over to the Wispa list Fred! I don't always agree
with you, but I REALLY appreciate how much thought and detail you put into
your responses.
Regards,
Jeff
Jeff
Well, 900Hz is slower :)
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
They say August. But that would be the happy announcement email from them.
Availability, probably October! :)
Will be on the boat for at least a month.
But I'm ready!
Bob-
I agree with Fred on this. I have read many of his statements on
cybertelecom's email list. If you are an ISP, I strongly recommend that
you join it off of http://www.cybertelecom.org/
Since around 2002, maybe a little earlier, at the time of The
Tauzin-Dingell Telecom Bill, the Congress, and
I was under the assumption that in order to advertise services on the lists one
needed to be a paying vendor member.
Doesn't seem fair that if one guy is paying for the right to advertise, that
another guy can pop in and tout his stuff fwithout paying the fare (nothing
against Butch, I'm just
OK, so I finally got around to upgrading one of my oldest towers. It
had 3 WRAP/StarOS boards with CM9 cards on 15DB Superpass 120 degree
sectors. I added the first RocketM unit with the 15DB 120 degree
sectors. The receive signals are low, much lower than the old
equipment. Any ideas?
-RickG
Josh,
Sorry but that email was out of line, why would you take the we'll take
our Butch fans and leave attitude? it's totally against what we have
all worked for in improving conditions for WISP's and access to our paid
vendors. The first thing Dennis did was go on the Board list and
Exactly Patrick.
The rural telco's in my coverage area are getting those per telephone
served. They are not going to give it up without a fight. The only
recourse would be to distribute USF funds across the providers providing
Internet access and Land line access. That will not happen.
That is called taxes...and we are about to see what it really costs. Just
wait until next year.
Cameron
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
Health Insurance?
Hey, George! (In Canada)
What kind of budget to you have for health insurance?
Gotta love the free ads...but hey, when you're good you're good. More power
to you Butch.
Cameron
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote:
roflol
I'm glad I'm not the only one that does silly things from time to time!
Having said that let me drift this
How long is temporary?
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:
If it's a Mikrotik link you can do it right in the radio.
What equipment are you using?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
It has little to do with Butch specifically. It's the fact we have an
entire thread dedicated to this, what I consider, tiny little issue.
I will stand alone in this. I was only imagining that I wasn't alone,
I apologize for speaking for others. I ask that everyone think for
themselves. What
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 00:36 -0400, Jerry Richardson wrote:
I was under the assumption that in order to advertise services
on the lists one needed to be a paying vendor member.
FIRST: I did not advertise my services. I simply answered a question
that was asked. Anyone who reads the original
While not really a training event, I've been to every US MUM in the last 4
years and always found it productive and informative. I'd personally put it
on par with last weeks Wispa Regional in StLouis. The ones I've been to were
about the same in size and while the topics were not as diverse, I
I've only ever had one problem on a water tower and that was a direct strike
to MY antenna, not the tower. I found the antenna on the ground, and all my
radios were toast. That was before shielded cable made its way into my
network.
Cameron
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Patrick Wheeland
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 00:29 -0500, Cameron Crum wrote:
While not really a training event, I've been to every US MUM in the
last 4 years and always found it productive and informative.
100% agreement from me.
I'd personally put it on par with last weeks Wispa Regional in
StLouis.
I agree
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