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nodes. I can't find any documentation for it on line, though,
and a distributor I've been talking to has never tried or sold
it. So does anyone on the list have any experience with the HWMPplus
mesh? Or any other suggestions? Thanks!
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difficult a
location to do otherwise.
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requirements clearer. This is a challenge to serve the most
impossible place we know of; our second expected project area some
miles away looks to be just a bit easier. (Still convex beach and
wooded hills, but it doesn't look as steep.)
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Order while meeting one
aspect of the letter.
(I'm probably out today so don't expect responses before much later.)
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node IDs in Layer 2, it becomes smarter than IP, and IP can
thus be run as a dumb stub protocol.
(Suggested reading: Patterns in Network Architecture: A Return to
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be some kind of
process taking place there that uses ISM, though radar looks more likely to me.
The FCC lets us use these bands without license because they're
basically junkyards.
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frequency. You'll find a lot of weather-related radar, especially
doppler radars used for wind profiling. Different radar frequencies
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), but I haven't seen it
in the unlicensed low-cost world.
Faisal Imtiaz
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On 6/19/2010 8:50 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
This is one of the problems with any kind of best efforts routing
or bridging. Loss does accumulate. Of course it's the
single-frequency meshes
of allocations, 915 is a federal primary,
not civilian, so it's not clear that a drill ship should be running
that radar, if that's what it is. The rules might differ in other countries.
Greg
On Jun 20, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
At 6/20/2010 07:36 AM, Greg Ithen wrote:
A quick
is underutilized in rural areas. USF and
large-area licensing policies have distorted the market.
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On 6/20/2010 11:19 AM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
At 6/20/2010 12:32 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
You know your stuff in-side out
a lot of details. And I'm
not sure what pole-mountable multi-radio processors it can run on.
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, a decent-sized node, even sectorized,
could be built out of this class of gear, given some nice packaging.
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antennas, something
like that will become relatively easy. But we're not quite there yet.
Thoughts?
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and will be replaced with a nano5m.
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(Customer - WISP) that is made using directive
antennas can follow PtP instead of PtMP rules, which would apply only
to the downlink (WISP - Customer) .
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On 6/21/2010 9:08 AM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
At 6/21/2010 01:01 AM, you wrote:
MicroTik says they have a meshing protocol, HWMPplus, that provides
Layer 2 (this is critical; we're not building a Layer 3 network, and
with this many
. It sure would be nice if either of the
dueling WRT teams implemented it.
And btw I stand corrected on OLSR -- it's IP only -- BATMAN-adv is Layer 2.
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At 6/26/2010 12:55 AM, Jack Unger wrote:
Fred Goldstein wrote:
At 6/25/2010 03:31 AM, Blair Davis wrote:
I thought this one was settled a long time ago... The FCC regulates
transmitters.
In general, yes. But they have claimed authority over receivers
too. Remember that even receive-only
could see a market, especially if it
nulled out interference.
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On 7/1/2010 9:57 AM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
I wonder how WiMAX would work on 900 MHz. Beamforming base antennas
would be rather large, but I could see a market, especially if it
nulled out interference.
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At 7/1/2010 12:45 PM, Rogello wrote:
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote:
It's not a fair comparison. Some people (is this especially an American
disease?) treat everything as a one-on-one death match, and in
this case act
as if there were a WiMAX
Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
Any specific band?
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At 7/7/2010 03:36 PM, Greg wrote:
Yes, but turning down the TX power is a better idea. An attenuator
is going to decrease the RX sensitivity.
I agree. And keep the hot spot inside, away from the windows. The
walls will attenuate the signal too.
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Lines, and was asking about 30-50 MHz (low band) or 170 MHz (high band).
Nowadays those both look like DC bands.
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editing my Comment in the current FCC Broadband
Internet NOI. My comment on USF, which I won't actually include in
the final submission, is that their treatment of WISPs is tantamount
to the Chinese policy of billing the families of executed prisoners
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.
;-)
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At 7/13/2010 12:31 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
That's a double edged sword... You don't pay into USF
more.
On Jul 12, 2010, at 11:36 PM, Jack Unger wrote:
WISPs get a share of the USF funds that will be redirected to broadband?
Noodle me that...
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over (around 1983). I had a
CompUServe account for a little while. It was $3/hour at 300 bps,
$9/hour at 1200 bps. Guess which one I used..
And my take-away is that at each step of the way, at each time, that
was seen as the cat's pajamas. And we got a lot done with it.
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used to fancy cellular and fiber
installs, not WISP-style radios. So we may also want to bring in
someone with this kind of WISP experience to do some consulting or
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with this kind of WISP experience to do some consulting or
setup with us too. Thanks.
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be the bigger deal. The
big engineering firms are more used to fancy cellular and fiber
installs, not WISP-style radios. So we may also want to bring in
someone with this kind of WISP experience to do some consulting or
setup with us too. Thanks.
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. That
was several thousand dollars/month for a local loop.
But the vast majority of WISPs are in rural areas, where there are no
such choices. That's why Special Access reform is so important.
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and a bit clumsy. These sorts of
things aren't show-stoppers, just places where it helps reduce one's
sanity just a bit more. Which can be in short supply...
Fred Goldstein wrote:
At 7/21/2010 11:41 AM, MarlonS wrote:
Radio Mobile hates everyone that doesn't use it every day.
It's a great
to be
a for profit program
..accept it for what it is and be thankful
rather than complain. Any other options are far worse
Brian
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. At least it lets me
redraw the networks above it though.
Fred Goldstein wrote:
Brian,
Please don't misunderstand me. I am very appreciative of the work
done on RadioMobile and the fact that it's free! And, having
worked with RF for a long time, I'm well aware of how complex the
issues
cellular and fiber
installs, not WISP-style radios. So we may also want to bring in
someone with this kind of WISP experience to do some consulting or
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sites this week, I'll snap some pictures.
Here are the MTI brackets:
http://www.mtiwe.com/UserFiles/Image/MTI/Enclosure_Units/big/MT-120018-and-M
T-120018A%5B1%5D.jpg
-Paul
On Jul 27, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
At 7/27/2010 02:12 PM, you wrote:
We ourselves are an electric co-op
that it costs them (though it helps encourage the
sale of overpriced flat-rate usage plans).
The bill adds USF taxes to WISPs and basically prohibits them from
receiving anything. This is consistent with the FCC's current pay
for the bullet proposal. Such a deal!
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to power a nice Routerboard arrangement, maybe with
some Ethernet radios on the side. The fun will be mounting
everything on the pole. Questions like who gets the top, the antenna
or the windmill? (Probably the turbine, so it can move with the wind.)
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with the cable
industry. I am sure they would love to see Telco's lose their USF subsidies
in markets that are served by cable.
Brian
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that this bill will receive a fair amount of opposition
from the subsidy-suckers too.
Brian
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compelling reason
to document and map your network
designed
for its own system; I don't know how well it would work otherwise and
it's way expensive. Suggestions? Thanks!
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anywhere. Of course the Proxim stuff comes
at a Proxim price; I could probably gut a Powerbridge for half as much.
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he would pay it over a long period of time.
When he said he was paying cash outright, it cost a tiny fraction of
the amount the bill was for.
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MHz CPE, which I
may want in some heavy woods. Same form factor, two very different products.
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not a unalienable right and neither is health
care!
Of course, we could give up those rights and become serfs with no
choice but poor health care and watch the elite as they pay themselves
huge bonuses, yachts, and other luxuries.
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On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst
cable, and they'd be happy to
see WISPs go away. (When I see them opposing it, I think of Bre'r
Rabbit and the brier patch.)
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. Their ToS (I'm a customer)
prohibited file and web servers; the FCC found that unreasonable.
I do believe that if someone had complained about such activities on
Verizon's or ATT's part, the K-Mart FCC would have found it perfectly
desirable.
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is a good way to keep the average load and thus the
cost and price down.
Fred Goldstein wrote:
At 8/3/2010 06:24 PM, Jack Unger wrote:
Why would customers installing file servers cause you a problem if
you limited their throughput to the Terms and Conditions of their
contract where you would
neutrality, there may be hope yet...
Comments inline.
Fred Goldstein wrote:
At 8/3/2010 09:03 PM, Jack Unger wrote:
Fred,
Many WISPs throttle throughput according to the terms of the
contracted service that each customer purchases. For example, if a
WISP sells 1 Mb down and 512k up then they limit
Warner (TW Telecom) is my
upstream. We aren't paying for IP addresses, but we only have a /27
of addresses with them.
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of crowded to be having three access frequencies
plus two or more backhaul frequencies... thanks.
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At 8/4/2010 04:03 PM, you wrote:
Jerry Richardson
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Jerry, did the body of your message get lost? I just got your .sig. Thanks.
On Aug 4, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com
wrote:
At 8/4/2010 03:37 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
It will not work.
But you
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At 8/4/2010 05:14 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
Well this is the formula we
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At 8/4/2010 11:50 PM, Robert West wrote:
A mess. Just run Air View and it will answer your question. As long
as one radio can see one
links and use XR5s in 11a mode for everything else that doesn't need
the speed... Thanks!
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routers are
expensive. So rather than let anything conductive touch them (other
than the power feed, which presumably has its own protectors), use a
jumper of all-dielectric fiber to isolate them from anything that
goes near the outside. Sort of an air gap, but made of glass...
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leased lines, selling to ISPs and wireless carriers. It's basically
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might not be that
great, which could help keep it small.
jack
Fred Goldstein wrote:
At 8/10/2010 10:15 AM, Blake Bowers wrote:
Although they do use that satellite word a lot, elsewhere in
their page they talk about 40,000 cell sites - as in possibly
they are doing their backhaul using
and I
don't like those outdoors. The forums have had some complaints about
heat in the CPU, so downclocking it might make sense. (Somebody
posted a note about the new heat sink, with a picture of an anvil.)
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mistreated for another
century. Finally they get good lawyers and lobbyists and open casinos.
Sounds like its a lot better than being a WISP or an Integrator. :-)
When you add it all up, I don't really think so. :-(
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of
satellite stuff. The BTOP side was a little more varied.
On 08/17/2010 06:51 PM, Charles Wu (CTI) wrote:
Word on the street is that there are a few more award announcements
coming out tomorrow
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-- it
comes from USF, another tax.
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Fred Goldstein
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At 8/20/2010 02:49 PM, you wrote:
Where does Bip/Btop post these awards?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites
regulating all
ISPs in a manner that would hurt the big guys a little and the little
guys, like WISPs, a lot. So VZ, who is impacted the least, is happy
with it. The correct answer is to open the networks, and leave
self-provisioned ISPs (WISPs) alone.
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provide the PS users with
some assurance of capacity. But I don't know if it can be
provisioned in any of the low-cost router OSs. Sure would be nice.
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. An SO-239
was on top and it could absorb a kilowatt for a brief test, or a
smaller load for a longer time. I did watch somebody smoke one with
a serious 2-meter grounded-plate amplifier. Those 8877 tubes were
great. It was a very generous kilowatt amp.)
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radios in one rb. As I recall there is interference but someone
had a
solution. I am sure someone will chime in or you could check the
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the
performance of broadband Internet access services at any given time,
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will hit different heights
at different times.)
Horizontal polarization is said to work better over water. So is it
crazy to try a dual-polarization MIMO link?
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on what you mean by the term, though; I use it generically.
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote:
At 9/13/2010 07:02 PM, you wrote:
900 won't do 10 megs.
The new Ubiquiti M-series Airmax 900 MHz radios should do it. MCS10
in a 5 MHz quarter-channel
RocketM sectors look better than
anything MT has. The specs are pretty close but the scuttlebutt on
the boards is that the UBNT cards outperform the R52HNs.
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At 9/13/2010 09:23 PM, you wrote:
With the low cost
, and thus the whole sector counts as PtP for
regulatory power limit purposes. With TDMA it's only transmitting to
one at a time, after all...
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R52's (not Ns) died or went into
a super spew mode with lots of noise.
Are you using any RF Armor or other shields? What sector antennas
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hacking, but they've gotten approved. So why shouldn't Airmax or NV2
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\radio mobile directory, with the executable.
The latest one seems to be from January, though I'm sure it's
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links too. A Part 101-type path licensing regime would also allow that.
This might be a more practical compromise position, no?
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? I'm thinking of using HWMP+ to automatically create paths
(route, but not in the IP layer) them across the network (mesh,
in the literal topological sense). Thanks...
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On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote:
On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 11:29 -0400, Fred Goldstein wrote:
Glad to hear it's working. My plan is to put a router at the core and
run layer 2 beyond. How flexible
threads have suggests Mikrotik over Vyatta. Cheaper and
better. I have not used Vyatta.
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they wouldn't risk using them for long links over 10miles or
so, because a low price product likely was lower grade. I got to say, way
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to establish height limits for
personal/portable devices. As the Commission stated in the Second
Report and Order, there is no practical way to enforce such limits,
and such limits are not necessary due to the different technical and
operational characteristics of personal/portable devices.
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Fred
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On Behalf Of Fred Goldstein
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 4:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Transmit Antenna Height
This item alone may be the show-stopper, the poison pill that makes
it useless to WISPs in much of the country.
In places where the routine
devices. As the Commission stated in the Second
Report and Order, there is no practical way to enforce such limits,
and such limits are not necessary due to the different technical and
operational characteristics of personal/portable devices.
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Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com
and
operational characteristics of personal/portable devices.
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Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com
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reasonable.
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Fred Goldstein
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 2:57 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Transmit Antenna Height
At 9/24/2010 02:16 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
There is one other benefit
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