Well they just announced it...
http://tinyurl.com/dx99wd
Chuck Profito
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CV-ACCESS, INC
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g] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 3:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
On Feb 12, 2009, at 3:55 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
And, CTI has published their exact pricing for the Trango. Why is
nobody else putting out the DW price?
ry 12, 2009 3:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
On Feb 12, 2009, at 3:55 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
> And, CTI has published their exact pricing for the Trango. Why is
> nobody else putting out the DW price?
>
I don't know, but our last quote from CTI h
>Charles, Thanks for the prompt response , I was thinking more on
>availability.
>Say I'm on a crowded area, what would be the chances of not getting
>the license?
Hard to say...but keep in mind, we were able to get that license for you after
Micronet said "no-go"
That said, even though you ha
On Feb 12, 2009, at 3:55 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
> And, CTI has published their exact pricing for the Trango. Why is
> nobody else putting out the DW price?
>
I don't know, but our last quote from CTI had the DW coming in less
than Trango.
-Matt
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ispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
>From what I gather in this post my synopsis is as follows.
Both Dragonwave and Trango are fine ptp products with small
differenc
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 12:33:41PM -0600, Charles Wu wrote:
> >For one of our busy sites right now, we have two 5ghz links to it in
> >order to have good speed, as one wasn't enough (and the redundancy was a
> >good byproduct). I would love a few cost effective <2 mile links that
> >don't need lice
gt;
> -Original Message-
> From: "3-dB Networks"
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:47:09
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
>
>
> Sure... at the end of the day I guess that is all I care about too.
> But if
> your
Original Message-
> From: "3-dB Networks"
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:47:09
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
>
>
> Sure... at the end of the day I guess that is all I care about too. But if
> your ODU fail
-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:38 AM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
>
>>From what I gather in this post my synopsis is as foll
orks fine -- 36 months later Trango or Dragonwave
>> goes completely bankrupt
>>
>> Who cares? For your next link...go buy a Trango/Dragonwave/Ceragon/
>> Harris/Nera/whatever -- the installed link will continue to work --
>> and by then, you'll be looking to upgrade
gt;Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:15 PM
>To: WISPA General List
>Cc: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
>
>Charles, Thanks for the prompt response , I was thinking more on
>availability.
>
>Say I'm on a crowded area, what would be the chance
l List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
>
>>For one of our busy sites right now, we have two 5ghz links to it in
>>order to have good speed, as one wasn't enough (and the redundancy was
>a
>>good byproduct). I would love a few cost effective <2 mile links that
&
Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Charles Wu
>Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:31 AM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
>
>My personal opinion regarding point-to-point links is that it
ess-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:38 AM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
>
>>From what I gather in this post my synopsis is as follows.
>
>Both Dragon
e-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:42 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
>
> On this subject
>
> Charles, others:
>
> Wh
/Ceragon/Harris/Nera/whatever -- the installed link will
> continue to work -- and by then, you'll be looking to upgrade your backhauls
> anyways
>
> -Charles
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] O
C $240 / site for a major modification
>
> -Charles
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:42 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re:
>For one of our busy sites right now, we have two 5ghz links to it in
>order to have good speed, as one wasn't enough (and the redundancy was a
>good byproduct). I would love a few cost effective <2 mile links that
>don't need licensing, doesn't use 5ghz and can do 200mbps actual data or
>faster. I
:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
>From what I gather in this post my synopsis is as follows.
Both Dragonwave and Trango are fine ptp products with small
differences. Both companies have problems either financially or
historically.
I think the geeks in us care
40 / site for a major modification
-Charles
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:42 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
On this subject
Charles, oth
I wanted to clear up, a signficant undersight in my previous post.
There are additional options for 100mbps FDX 24Ghz unlicensed link.
Cable-Free wireless, http://www.cablefree.co.uk/ has a 24Ghz unlicensed
product shipping, for sub $9k.
Likely significantly less, but I'll leave detailed price
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of jp
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:39 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
We are facing two simultaneous issues at some of our sites. I'm sure
we're not the only ones with such dilemas
gt; From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:13 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
>
> > The only reason we don't attach
> > it here in the factory
>From what I gather in this post my synopsis is as follows.
Both Dragonwave and Trango are fine ptp products with small
differences. Both companies have problems either financially or
historically.
I think the geeks in us care about the products and the operation
managers in us care about the bu
>>Dragonwave did not ship $50mil last year, it
>>was closer to $40Mil - and by the way they are losing tons of money
>>quarter-after-quarter. Trango is, and has always been profitable.
>Well you can read Dragonwave's latest financial statement here...
>http://www.dragonwaveinc.com/docs/corporate/
LOL. I do. "Wireless technology" :-)
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: "Mike Hammett"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:08 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18
Tom, you need a hobby. :-p
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: "Tom DeReggi"
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:47 PM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18gh
er (instead of the transition) in the event they want to
>connect the ODU to piece of flex waveguide so that it can be used with
>any dish with a waveguide flange.
Fair enough... but I would think it's probably the exception more than the
rule in most deployments. The Dragonwave transiti
ginal Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Brad Belton
>Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:07 AM
>To: 'WISPA General List'
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
>
>Hmmm...sure sounds like you have an inor
er the price
>> of
>> their 24Ghz line, to OUTPRICE the Trango 23Ghz. And justify the lower
>> cost
>> based on lower power and shorter range, without compromising their
>> higher
>> margins for 23Ghz carrier level products. They have a way to UNDERCUT
>>
potential is doubted, it would be VERY COST effective, to just add
> another ODU to the existing Giga Platform.
>
> Lastly, don't just ask this list, that is mostly rural providers. Go ask
> Tower Stream who's doing markets like NY and LA. Ask them how mnay
> custoemr
oss the street. You get 23Ghz-18Ghz to the taller
building, and then extend the service to the shorter neighbor building
across the street via 24Ghz.
WISPS are becomming PTP. We need gear for EVERY OUNCE of spectrum that is
out there for our use.
Truth is... What I REALLY want is a 100mbps 24Gh
On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:02 PM, John Seaman wrote:
> Matt, there is no DFS detector in the Atlas5010. It was not a firmware
> issue, but rather a hardware limitation. That is why we released the
> 5055, aka the TrangoLINK-45 which is essentially the same product as
> the
> Atlas but has DFS supp
buying decissions. With PTP you are not. You can change
> buying patterns link by links, as you see fit, without abandoning previous
> investments..
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message -
> F
...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 1:54 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
Trango has a way of destroying their reputation even when their product
is not at fault. We've had them offer us volume discounts only later to
see the same
>
>> Patrick Leary
>> Aperto Networks
>> 813.426.4230 mobile
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
>> boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of John Seaman
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:32 PM
>>
ange
buying patterns link by links, as you see fit, without abandoning previous
investments..
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: "Josh Luthman"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Wednesday, Feb
@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:13 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
> The only reason we don't attach
> it here in the factory is to enable the user the option to use a
> waveguide
use a
> waveguide adapter (instead of the transition) in the event they want to
> connect the ODU to piece of flex waveguide so that it can be used with
> any dish with a waveguide flange.
> - Contact us or CTI for pricing off-list.
>
>
>
>
> John Seaman
> Trango Syst
pa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of John Seaman
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:32 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
>
> Hi Randy, There are three people in our support group..plus me and Ray.
> We're a small sales and
ge-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:29 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
>
> Can I ask an honest question about the PTP licensed gear?
erto Networks
813.426.4230 mobile
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of John Seaman
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
Hi Randy, There are three people in our suppor
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:29 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
Can I ask an honest question about the PTP licensed gear? Tell us about
the tech support departme
ess-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 6:36 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
Brad,
Go back through the list achieves... I think I have made my stance on
why Dragonwave is better in my opinion than Trango.
roduct. If anyone is
> interested in the promos let us or CTI know.
>
>
> John
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:12 PM
> To: WISPA
PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
So when you build a Trango backhaul network you hope they don't ruin you
like they did for us trying to do use 700 dollar CPEs.
I have not used Trango backhaul products due to the horrible experience,
cost and support for the
can be used with
> any dish with a waveguide flange.
> - Contact us or CTI for pricing off-list.
>
>
>
>
> John Seaman
> Trango Systems, Inc.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@w
cing off-list.
John Seaman
Trango Systems, Inc.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 6:36 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz li
...@believewireless.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:16 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
We are in Baltimore and now have Sprint WiMax to compete against in the
residential market. Hearing a lot of people say how great it was, I
decided to check it out.
What I
t; From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:43 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
>
> I have to run out into the field to work on a Bridgewave l
al Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:43 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
I have to run out into the field to work on a Bridgewave link (people pay
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
Hi,
I have a better idea someone compile a simple side-by-side comparison of
the Dragonwave vs. Trango 18ghz radios. List all the benefits of each radio,
and then also list the current price
.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Brad Belton
>Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:06 PM
>To: 'WISPA General List'
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
>
>Hello Daniel,
>
>Well, that is disappointing as I was hoping for more substance from you
t'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
I will second this, I would love to hear it!
-Cameron
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: R
I will second this, I would love to hear it!
-Cameron
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
Isn't
Ehman
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:08 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
All,
When comparing exactly apples to apples, there is about a 10-20% premium
for a Dragonwave product.
There are plenty of threads on this topic. I would be happy to grab a
bunch for you so
'll have to chalk up your comments as all show and no go...
Best,
Brad
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:49 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ne
ess-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Jeff Ehman
>Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:08 PM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
>
>All,
>
>When comparing exactly apples to apples, there is about a 10-20% premium
>for a Dragonwave product.
>
>
-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:36 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
Hello Daniel,
Can you elaborate in what way the Dragonwave "performance is much better"?
Do you have a comparison chart you can sha
: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
Hello Daniel,
Can you elaborate in what way the Dragonwave "performance is much better"?
Do you have a comparison chart you can share with us explaining how a
Dragonwave stacks up against competing products. Namely
rg] On
Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:25 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link
Well...
I'd be happy to quote you a Dragonwave link... I think you will be surprised
how close it comes to the Trango pricing... and I think the performance
Well...
I'd be happy to quote you a Dragonwave link... I think you will be surprised
how close it comes to the Trango pricing... and I think the performance is
much better (I don't want to rehash that whole thread).
We also will take care of all of the licensing work for you.
Hit me offlist if y
CTI has a special on them right now.
http://www.cticonnect.com/
David Blood
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Andrew Niemantsverdriet
> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:08 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subjec
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