On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 09:14, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:
Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am the RF guy, not the network
guy. But its kind of on topic because its connected to a wireless link.
:-)
What does this tell everybody??? Its from a Cisco 2960 switch.
Don't know that there's much more you could get from this other than just
up/down. Seems like a strong possibility of a bad cable to me, but of
course, many other possibilities.
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Behalf Of Bob
So this is showing a hard disconnect? No chance the port was shut off?
Any chance its a bad GBIC ?
Tnx
-B-
Jason Hensley wrote:
Don't know that there's much more you could get from this other than just
up/down. Seems like a strong possibility of a bad cable to me, but of
course, many
Hi Bob,
This shows the port simply going up and down. And noting more.
Is this a Fiber Port ? Or Copper ?
If copper, then the wire needs to be tested, (no loose connector, right kind
of cable, cat6, and the cable not exceeding 300ft,etc.)
If it is fiber then, check the fiber, clean the fiber,
show int gi0/21 cou err
This could show if there are any errors and what type they are.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.comwrote:
Don't know that there's much more you could get from this other than just
up/down. Seems like a strong possibility of a bad cable
If you're seeing carrier-sens or alignment errors things like duplex could
be the issue. Most common issue is cable crimp or continuity on the line.
These will show up with input errors, etc.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Nick Huanca n...@greataukwireless.comwrote:
show int gi0/21 cou err
I've had that happen here when I picked up a LOT of RF on an ethernet cable.
I've also seen it when a device didn't auto negotiate correctly with a Cisco
switch (they seem to suck). I now force all of my Cisco switches to a set
port speed rather than allowing auto negotiation.
Just for kicks,
Does the wireless link by chance have the rapid port shutdown feature?
If so, you may have a wireless link issue.
-Kevin
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:
Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am the RF guy, not the network
guy. But its kind of on
To All,
OK Its a fiber interface. The system has been working fine.
Configuration is this:
2960 --- fiber --- Gig Radio 60ghz Gig Radio
---fiber 2960
The interface went down twice in the same day. The radio never went
down. the fiber tests fine and no one has screwed with
Its fiber. And I would think if it was an autonegotiate issue it would
have been intermittent all along. It has been operating pretty nuch
error free other than this event.
But I guess I could try the ferrite beads on the fiber. Hey..It
wouldn't hurt. :-P
Tnx
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
How close are these links? We find that at 0.10 in/hr of rain fall will
cause our 60GHz link to drop and because of the Ethernet follows
Wireless setting this also drops our Ethernet connection, normally we
only see this in hard rain.
On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 10:55 -0400, Bob Moldashel wrote:
To
: Friday, October 30, 2009 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Question
To All,
OK Its a fiber interface. The system has been working fine.
Configuration is this:
2960 --- fiber --- Gig Radio 60ghz Gig Radio
---fiber 2960
The interface went down twice in the same day
AM
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Its fiber. And I would think if it was an autonegotiate issue it would
have been intermittent all along. It has been operating pretty nuch
error free other than this event.
But I guess I could try the ferrite beads on the fiber. Hey..It
wouldn't
They are a block away. The rain was light and only occurred for a few
hours that day. It rained like hell over the weekend without a hiccup.
We also have 7 other 60 Ghz hops within the same 10 block radius with
longer paths and they did not hiccup during the same time period. This
link is
General List wireless@wispa.org
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To All,
OK Its a fiber interface. The system has been working fine.
Configuration is this:
2960 --- fiber --- Gig Radio 60ghz Gig Radio
---fiber 2960
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Behalf Of Bret Clark
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How close are these links? We find that at 0.10 in/hr of rain fall will
cause our
: Friday, October 30, 2009 8:18 AM
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No
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
That almost sounds like someone *physically* unplugging the devices. Did
any of you show up during the outage? (I assume yes but have to ask)
marlon
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No
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
That almost sounds like someone *physically* unplugging the devices. Did
any of you show up during the outage? (I assume yes but have to ask
, October 30, 2009 11:43 AM
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Its on a commercial rooftop on both sides. Ladies from the cleaning
union don't go up there. The cabinets are locked. The rooftops are
alarmed and on CCTV on both sides. And it was a crappy day so nobody
...@wispa.org] On
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Its on a commercial rooftop on both sides. Ladies from the cleaning
union don't go up there. The cabinets are locked. The rooftops are
alarmed and on CCTV
Of Butch Evans
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On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long
time, starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate
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Scott Lambert wrote:
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 08:21:37AM -0800, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
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Here's an example from yesterday. My new
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In a message dated 12/9/2007 11:25:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
dreaded MS Vista
Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 08:21:37AM -0800, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
wrote:
Here's an example from yesterday. My new laptop is Vista (the old one has
a concrete floor induced broken screen). There is a device somewhere on my
network that is answering arp requests incorrectly. No
Scott Lambert wrote:
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 08:21:37AM -0800, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
Here's an example from yesterday. My new laptop is Vista (the old one has
a concrete floor induced broken screen). There is a device somewhere on my
network that is
Why should Windows refuse to accept an IP just because there is a
conflict on the network? As long as that machine has a unique address,
why should it care about the duplicate? Makes it hard to troubleshoot
the network when your troubleshooting machine won't get an address.
Scott Lambert
I've seen this as well in the past.
Best to my recollection is has something to do with the consumer gateway
routers. Or it had something to do with someones pc. I can't remember
the actual situation, but I seen a bunch of times.
One more reason why I like using the router built into the cpe
, December 11, 2007 11:28 AM
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Scott Lambert wrote:
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 08:21:37AM -0800, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
wrote:
Here's an example from yesterday. My new laptop is Vista (the old one has
a concrete floor
Of Brian Rohrbacher
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Scott Lambert wrote:
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 08:21:37AM -0800, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
wrote:
Here's an example from yesterday. My new laptop is Vista
Games.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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We've
Is it still possible to buy a new computer and use XP?
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Games.
-
Mike Hammett
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On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for
a long
time, starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate
FYI-Vista SP1 Beta is available now, I have loaded it on this laptop and
another PC.
**Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest
products.
(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301)
:
Is it still possible to buy a new computer and use XP?
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Games.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent
6:01 AM
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Is it still possible to buy a new computer and use XP?
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On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long
time, starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate
Version,
without problems
..Question
Games.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, Jeff Broadwick wrote:
I'm getting close to a decision on a new computer for my family.
What Linux desk-top would be best at this point?
I have not used it extensively, but there are a number of users of
Ubuntu. The large user base means good support on forums and
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe if apple or linux had hundreds of thousands of programs
written for it, they would be of benefit or offer a little
competition to MicroSoft But when it is barely into the
hundreds, it is easy to have it work so easily.
What? There are
Adobe Photoshop
Scansoft Paperport
Quickbooks
iTunes (for my iPhone)
Streets and Trips 2008
Radio Mobile
Quark Xpress
Visio
thanks,
Travis
Microserv
Butch Evans wrote:
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe if apple or linux had hundreds of thousands of programs written
for it,
This is getting a little further astray, but what makes you think that
Fedora is geekier than Ubuntu? The ladies tell me I'm pretty geeky, but I
run Ubuntu and now you're stepping on my . Can we please agree that
there is nothing inherently more geeky about one distro vs another - though
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On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe if apple or linux had hundreds of thousands of programs written for
it, they would be of benefit or offer a little competition
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Travis Johnson wrote:
Adobe Photoshop
GIMP
Scansoft Paperport
Don't know what this one is. If it is a scanner driver, then there
is one called sane for Linux. There is possibly more
functionality in your app, but I am not familiar with what it is or
does.
Freshbooks is fantastic for service invoicing. It handles recurring billing
with supporting payment gateways, and also gives you the option to send
paper invoices (monthly, automatically!) for a little more than a dollar.
Roger Coude just announced Linux-friendly 8.6.0 this morning. It's worked
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Travis Johnson wrote:
Adobe Photoshop
GIMP
Scansoft Paperport
Don't know what this one is. If it is a scanner driver
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Dylan Oliver wrote:
This is getting a little further astray, but what makes you think
that Fedora is geekier than Ubuntu? The ladies tell me I'm pretty
geeky, but I run Ubuntu and now you're stepping on my . Can we
please agree that there is nothing inherently more
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Mike Hammett wrote:
There are too many Linux programs to count... unfortunately, most
of them are garbage and so is the support. You get what you pay
for.
Nobody is trying to convince you of anything. You are obviously not
very familiar regarding this topic, so your
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Brad Belton wrote:
Ok, here is a curve ball for you Butch; WinBox into a MikroTik
router running v2.8. grin
lol. Terminal with ssh? That is my preferred method anyway. I use
winbox mostly because it remembers passwords anyway. ;-)
Only because recently you said
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Butch Evans wrote:
Nobody is trying to convince you of anything.
CRAP. I apologize to the list (and Mike) for posting this to the
list. I did not intend for this to go here.
--
Butch Evans
Network Engineering and Security Consulting
573-276-2879
Glad we can be friends again! There is a 'server' edition for Ubuntu:
http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/serveredition. I just noticed a
version optimized for VMWare (
http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/jeos), which is
great for me as I run XP for Quickbooks and
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Mike Hammett wrote:
There are too many Linux programs to count... unfortunately, most of them
are garbage and so is the support. You get what you pay
, 2007 9:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question
Adobe Photoshop
Scansoft Paperport
Quickbooks
iTunes (for my iPhone)
Streets and Trips 2008
Radio Mobile
Quark Xpress
Visio
thanks,
Travis
Microserv
Butch Evans wrote:
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe
to Rural Central California
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Adobe Photoshop
Scansoft Paperport
Quickbooks
iTunes
Stumbler does not run under Vista either,
Mark
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Please add network stumbler to the list
@wispa.org
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Is it still possible to buy a new computer and use XP?
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Let's move this thread to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you care to continue please. I
have received several requests to kill this thread.
Thank you,
Rick Harnish
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I did basically the same thing a long time ago with Partition Magic and OSXL
boot loader. I resized the Windows partition, created a small one for OSXL
and used the remaining space for linux.
Mike Bushard, Jr
Wireless Network Engineer
320-256-WISP (9477)
320-256-9478 Fax
-Original
Vista doesn't need partition magic, it has it's own partition utility
built in.
So if you want to install linux, open up the vista partition utility,
squeeze the partition size down for vista and then install linux. Linux
will find the space.
Also, no reason why you can't just wipe vista and
That's what I thought. I just need to find a Dummies verson so I
can do it! :-)
-B-
On Dec 9, 2007, at 11:35 AM, Mike Bushard, Jr wrote:
I did basically the same thing a long time ago with Partition Magic
and OSXL
boot loader. I resized the Windows partition, created a small one
for
Thanks George. I just want to leave Vista on there incase something
happens and I need to take the machine back to the geniuses at Best
Buy. they love to turn stuff on and blame software for issues. Its
a just in case issue.
Thanks!
-B-
On Dec 9, 2007, at 11:41 AM, George Rogato
The only other issue you will have is finding all the XP drivers for the
laptop. HP/Compaq no longer publish the XP drivers for laptops that come
with Vista on them. You can still find them, it just takes a little
searching.
Travis
Microserv
Bob Moldashel wrote:
Thanks George. I just want
Bob:
Take a look at http://apcmag.com/5023/dual_booting_xp_with_vista
And goto the section labeled: Get Started - Using DISKPART.. Don't pay
any attention to the steps prior to the Get Started - Using
DISKPART...
It is very straight forward and simple...
It works.. I have done this for
In a message dated 12/9/2007 11:25:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
dreaded MS Vista
Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long time,
starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate Version, without
problems
[laptops and PC's]. I
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In a message dated 12/9/2007 11:25:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
dreaded MS Vista
Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long time,
starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate Version, without
K. Tnx
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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The only other issue you will have is finding all the XP drivers
, December 09, 2007 11:57 AM
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
dreaded MS Vista
Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long
time,
starting with the Beta Version-now using
Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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In a message dated 12/9/2007 11:25:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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dreaded MS Vista
Why
My appologies to the list. The one thing i was hoping to avoid was an OS
thread. We all know how that discussion loads up the list hard drive.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
WISPA Wants You! Join
Will do. Tnx
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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Bob:
Take a look at http://apcmag.com
, 2007 1:26 PM
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Thats because in about a year, SP1 will be released and clear up the
major problems.I consider the first version of any new MS OS to be a
release candidate at best. Frankly if they do not clean up the Usability
of Vista
control
that scans your devices and has a library of device codes for nearly everything.
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No, no, Dell is to blame
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long
time, starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate
Version, without problems [laptops and PC's]. I think it is more a
learning curve with so many changes rom the earlier
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On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long
time, starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate Version,
without problems [laptops and PC's]. I think it is more a learning
curve
In a message dated 12/9/2007 6:48:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Butch,
I'm getting close to a decision on a new computer for my family. What Linux
desk-top would be best at this point?
Jeff
Depending upon how 'top' you need it to be, either buy a HP on
In a message dated 12/9/2007 3:16:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long
time, starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate
Version, without
new computer for my family. What Linux
desk-top would be best at this point?
Jeff
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On Sun
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as the same or better. That argument doesn't fly anymore.
. . . J o n a t h a n
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Hi,
Every
You are either a troll or willfully ignorant. There are tens of thousands of
programs available for linux:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo wajig list-names | sed -e '/lib/d' | wc
Password:
17883 17883 239642
There are 17883 packages (which do not match the phrase 'lib', to weed out
about 7000
for my family. What Linux
desk-top would be best at this point?
Jeff
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On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long
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On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long
time, starting with the Beta Version-now using
cough*.
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Why is everyone so down on Vista
to a decision on a new computer for my family.
What Linux
desk-top would be best at this point?
Jeff
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