Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-07 Thread Brad Belton
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 2:30 PM To: WISPA General List; Tom DeReggi Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? I just bought a 2 port GigE card for $800 to go in a machine. -- Justin Wilson http://www.mti

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-07 Thread Justin Wilson
I just bought a 2 port GigE card for $800 to go in a machine. -- Justin Wilson http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support From: Tom DeReggi Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:19:44 -0400 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
Broadband - Original Message - From: "Tom Sharples" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 2:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? I picked up the Gateway model, equipped with nine 4-port ethernet expansion boards, for $625 on Ebay. Seems like a good deal altho

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-06 Thread Tom Sharples
Won't know till we get it, probably next week. Do these use a standard motherboard? Tom S. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Broadwick" To: "Tom Sharples" ; "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 4:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? &g

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-06 Thread Jeff Broadwick
uthman" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:57 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? > > > Call support and they can fix your ImageStream issues. Need to push a > little bit and use the phone. To this day I've not had a response to > m

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-05 Thread Tom Sharples
al Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? Call support and they can fix your ImageStream issues. Need to push a little bit and use the phone. To this day I've not had a response to

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Call support and they can fix your ImageStream issues. Need to push a little bit and use the phone. To this day I've not had a response to my emails without a phone call. On 4/6/10, Scott Lambert wrote: > On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 11:37:54PM -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: >> I really think you'll lov

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-05 Thread Justin Wilson
I have always been a fan of the Imagestream routers. The main advantage I see is you can actually pickup the phone and call someone if you have issues. One network I work on had a BGP issue a few months back. After a call to Imagestream we had a course of action to fix this weird issue. To me, i

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-05 Thread Scott Lambert
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 11:37:54PM -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: > I really think you'll love ImageStream... I don't mind the three living ImageStream TransPort routers we inherited. Once I changed the editor to default to vi, I was pretty happy. I am not much of a fan of the interface configuratio

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-05 Thread Scott Lambert
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 04:48:38PM -0700, Tom Sharples wrote: > Have you run into the pfsense pptp limitation? That is, only one > customer (behind your pfsense NAT router) , can establish a pptp > session to the same external pptp server at a time. At least, that's > what the pfsense download site

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-05 Thread Josh Luthman
I really think you'll love ImageStream... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Scott Lambert

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-05 Thread Scott Lambert
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 07:52:41PM -0400, Glenn Kelley wrote: > Scott > > One limitation currently with BGP is you cannot have more than 1 peer. > I am awaiting that fix myself. In the GUI anyway. 1. mount -u -w / 2. vi config file 3. Don't change the config in the gui again until it gets up

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-05 Thread Glenn Kelley
t;> Chuck Hogg >> Shelby Broadband >> 502-722-9292 >> ch...@shelbybb.com >> http://www.shelbybb.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >> boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Jos

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-05 Thread Josh Luthman
ess-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:42 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? > > Hang tight! We'll get through this!!! > > *draw some action movie with protagonis

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-05 Thread Chuck Hogg
, April 05, 2010 8:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? Hang tight! We'll get through this!!! *draw some action movie with protagonist over acting in a fake storm* Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "Succ

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Hang tight! We'll get through this!!! *draw some action movie with protagonist over acting in a fake storm* Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” ---

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-05 Thread Glenn Kelley
Fayette County is right in the middle of it - so for Bob and Larry - I know it will hit... :-/ hail right now here in Court House - just a little however have a good one On Apr 5, 2010, at 8:20 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > ht screen = monitoring system > > Top screen = weather > > Bottom screen

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Right screen = monitoring system Top screen = weather Bottom screen is me hoping for the best =) It looks like a small storm, most of my stuff is north of the storm. I don't think it will go near anyone else. At least I'm hoping not! Thanks for the luck! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Dir

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-05 Thread Glenn Kelley
i hear ya but then again - windows is a virus anyhow is it not ;-) ok - knowing I said that - I am sure that I am about to start a war... PS Josh, Bob, Mark and Larry - good luck w/ tonights lightning storms here in Ohio - know they tend to kick hard ... :-( On Apr 5, 2010, at 7:55 PM, To

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-05 Thread Tom Sharples
Sure, but that's the default Windows VPN client. Tom S. - Original Message - From: "Glenn Kelley" To: "Tom Sharples" ; "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? > there are other options than pptp s

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-05 Thread Glenn Kelley
Scott One limitation currently with BGP is you cannot have more than 1 peer. I am awaiting that fix myself. I love PFSENSE - Chris has done an awesome job on that project. On Apr 5, 2010, at 7:30 PM, Scott Lambert wrote: > he same way. But, now they have support contracts based on > resonabl

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-05 Thread Glenn Kelley
pptp server at a time. At least, that's what the pfsense > download > site lists under known limitations. > > Tom S. > > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Lambert" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 4:30 PM

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-05 Thread Tom Sharples
ssage - From: "Scott Lambert" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? > On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 10:15:24PM -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote: >> What Vyatta does is pretty cool. And they have also been giving back to &

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-05 Thread Scott Lambert
On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 10:15:24PM -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote: > What Vyatta does is pretty cool. And they have also been giving back to open > > > > But the bad is its priced wrong. They are going high end, targeting a > coporate user that might have one or two routers. > They make their mo

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-05 Thread Tom Sharples
7;" ; "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 5:47 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Vyatta? > Hi Tom, > > They are available new with pretty good prices too! :-) > > > Regards, > > Jeff > > > Jeff Broadwick > ImageStream > 8

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
om DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? *Versions 3.10-20 (ish not sure exactly where) h

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
SL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 1:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? So who has used Vyatta and Mikrotik? Differences? On 4/3/10, Gle

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
ts. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Glenn Kelley" To: "Tom Sharples" ; "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? >I love Vyatta. I lo

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-03 Thread RickG
 Rock solid when not configured by me. > > Bob- > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com > Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 11:43 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-03 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Mikrotik did have some very nasty BGP lock-up problems and multi-processor lock-up bugs. It definitely wasn't the hardware because once they got it fixed, everything worked fine on the exact same hardware. BGP would just die. Router would still be up and working but with no BGP sessions. We the

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Bob- > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com > Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 11:43 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? > > I would have to agree. Have

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-03 Thread Robert West
03, 2010 11:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? I would have to agree. Have had routers doing lot of work that had uptime over a year (one that almost hit 500 days but lightning got the better of one ethernet port). The ones I seen problems it tend to be bad PC hardware or

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-03 Thread eje
B450G works great as 5 managed port switches and very affordable. /Eje Follow us on twitter.com/wisprouter Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Glenn Kelley Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 02:37:33 To: Tom Sharples; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? I agree a

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-03 Thread Josh Luthman
eed > reboot, 1GB and no issues after running for months). > > /Eje > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -Original Message- > From: Travis Johnson > Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 00:12:38 > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? > > Hi, > &g

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-03 Thread eje
t: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? Hi, I would like to be the first to say that the article about Skybeam seems a little over dramatic. The quote that their Mikrotik routers had to be rebooted every few days would indicate to me that they had hardware problems, not software (Mikrotik) problems. I have Mik

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-03 Thread Glenn Kelley
I just loaded community edition 6 - and its rock solid w/ bgp One thing to note - is their release schedule. In short - 6 months - every 6 months they release a community edition - AND it is always what was available to the paid folks So - ... 6 months max wait for the "newest" software to bec

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-03 Thread Jeff Broadwick
n) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 12:53 AM To: Tom Sharples; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? I love Vyatta. I love PFSense...

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-03 Thread Jeff Broadwick
rples Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 10:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? Fair question. As you know, almost every product has at least one irritating limitation that can drive you nuts (for example the later discussion about having to retype the vyatta config by hand) and

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-02 Thread Glenn Kelley
I agree all HP here have a great night - and holiday weekend. On Apr 3, 2010, at 2:15 AM, Tom Sharples wrote: > We run HP Procurve switches here exclusively. Anything else seems > like junk > by comparison :-) > > Let's talk sometime next week. > > Thanks! > > Tom S. > >> >> Quick ? do you

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-02 Thread Tom Sharples
We run HP Procurve switches here exclusively. Anything else seems like junk by comparison :-) Let's talk sometime next week. Thanks! Tom S. > > Quick ? do you have a good switch that supports vlanning ? > > And yes - PF I think is ruled out (although vs 2 might work) > > Feel free to chat me

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-02 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I would like to be the first to say that the article about Skybeam seems a little over dramatic. The quote that their Mikrotik routers had to be rebooted every few days would indicate to me that they had hardware problems, not software (Mikrotik) problems. I have Mikrotik routers on my net

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-02 Thread Glenn Kelley
-- Original Message - > From: "Glenn Kelley" > To: "Tom Sharples" ; "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 9:52 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? > > >> I love Vyatta. I love PFSense... I love a bunch of other >

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-02 Thread Tom Sharples
; "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? >I love Vyatta. I love PFSense... I love a bunch of other > applications that can do this as well... BUT it might be worth asking > what the job that you want the router to perform.

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-02 Thread Glenn Kelley
Josh Largest difference I have seen is in regards to load (and cost) Freeware community editions ... well cost is pretty low - especially if you have vmware already running, xen running - or a good pc or server around. that being said Mikrotik from experience can choke on DDOS attacks above

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-02 Thread Josh Luthman
So who has used Vyatta and Mikrotik? Differences? On 4/3/10, Glenn Kelley wrote: > vyatta overview: http://www.vyatta.com/products/index.php > > PFSense overview: http://www.pfsense.org > > > On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:52 AM, Glenn Kelley wrote: > >> I love Vyatta. I love PFSense... I love a bunc

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-02 Thread Glenn Kelley
vyatta overview: http://www.vyatta.com/products/index.php PFSense overview: http://www.pfsense.org On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:52 AM, Glenn Kelley wrote: > I love Vyatta. I love PFSense... I love a bunch of other > applications that can do this as well... BUT it might be worth asking > what the

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-02 Thread Glenn Kelley
I love Vyatta. I love PFSense... I love a bunch of other applications that can do this as well... BUT it might be worth asking what the job that you want the router to perform. While some may bash vYatta - Keep in mind - when the reload happened - they specifically did that for their own

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-02 Thread Josh Luthman
at pretty good > prices. > - Original Message - > From: Travis Johnson > To: Tom Sharples ; WISPA General List > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 7:09 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? > > > Hi, > > I'm curious what you would need to add or

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-02 Thread Tom Sharples
General List Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? Hi, I'm curious what you would need to add or access on a "main" router? Shouldn't you just let the router "route" and put everything else somewhere else? Hardware is cheap cheap c

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-02 Thread Charles Hooper
Tom DeReggi wrote: > Then there is the free community version, > but. past history showed they have policies to discourage against using > it commercially based on what they update. For example, it was not possible > to upgrade from one version to another, not to long ago w/ community > ver

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
What Vyatta does is pretty cool. And they have also been giving back to open source community some of the source they write fixes to. They are trying to make Linux look and feel like a cisco router. I have a lot of respect for their effort. But the bad is its priced wrong. They are going h

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-02 Thread Travis Johnson
quot;Tom Sharples" ; "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:06 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? > > > I've heard of many WISPs using MT, Imagestream and Cisco as their core > routers. Never heard of Vyatta. I've always liked

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-02 Thread Josh Luthman
es" ; "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:06 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? > > > I've heard of many WISPs using MT, Imagestream and Cisco as their core > routers. Never heard of Vyatta. I've always liked following what > w

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-02 Thread Tom Sharples
that regard? Thanks, Tom S. - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "Tom Sharples" ; "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta? I've heard of many WISPs using MT, Imagestream and Cisco as their c

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-02 Thread Josh Luthman
I've heard of many WISPs using MT, Imagestream and Cisco as their core routers. Never heard of Vyatta. I've always liked following what works. On 4/2/10, Tom Sharples wrote: > Time to update our ancient and overloaded main router. I'm intrigued by > Vyatta > > and am wondering if anyone out her

Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?

2010-04-02 Thread Charles Hooper
A year or so back an employer I worked at had issues with Vyatta on Dell hardware. It was no fault of Vyatta's; Vyatta is based on Debian and either the Debian or the kernel maintainers had decided to change/remove the network driver from that particular release. Unfortunately, I don't remember