Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-27 Thread Blake Bowers
Remember, you could still have the costs of defending that position in a court. - Original Message - From: "Sam Tetherow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:27 PM Subject: Re: 911 compl

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-27 Thread Sam Tetherow
My personal opinion is that if the customer signs a waiver that they understand you are not providing 911 support and that if they dial 911 they get a message that says that 911 is not available from this device then you should be covered. I KNOW that this is contrary to the law, I'm just stat

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-27 Thread Blair Davis
Actually, this is a real good question. Who would be liable when the customer picks up the phone and dials 911 and nothing happens? Sam Tetherow wrote: One interesting question would be what happens if the POTS line is down, but Matt's wonderful wireless network is up? ;) The customer would

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-27 Thread Sam Tetherow
You may be able to hold them to it later but you are still ultimately responsible. If a CPA screws up your taxes, you are still liable for that filing. You may have a case against them that you may or may not win in court. But you will still have to pay back taxes, and interest at best when

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-27 Thread Sam Tetherow
One interesting question would be what happens if the POTS line is down, but Matt's wonderful wireless network is up? ;) The customer would have voice service but no 911... Sorry, I just couldn't resist. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Lets take a step back

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-27 Thread Peter R.
Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Lets take a step back... I never wrote anything about offering VOIP or 911 or E911 - I merely mentioned selling an Asterisk based phone system that is capable of redirecting long distance calls over VOIP. The customer that I mentioned is not getting their long dis

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-27 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Lets take a step back... I never wrote anything about offering VOIP or 911 or E911 - I merely mentioned selling an Asterisk based phone system that is capable of redirecting long distance calls over VOIP. The customer that I mentioned is not getting their long distance through my VOIP system,

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-25 Thread Tom DeReggi
Friday, June 23, 2006 4:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype,Yahoo, MS) Tom, I have to go with Matt on this. I am on a lot of lists, so they get confused, but I have seen way too many people ask for advice on listservs that shou

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-25 Thread Tom DeReggi
Matt, Do you really believe that? I know the comments you made in regard to 911 compliance I countered with facts I can backup. Therefore, your ideas on 911 compliance were either just made up or worse, your lawyer agreed with you on them. You are making a gross misunderstanding. I did no

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-25 Thread Tom DeReggi
& Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 5:43 PM Subject: Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype,Yahoo, MS)

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-25 Thread Matt Liotta
On Jun 24, 2006, at 10:15 PM, Butch Evans wrote: If you look at what Matt Larsen posted, you will see that (as I have stated twice and he stated originally) that his PBX SUPPORTS E911. You are either forgetting that or ignoring it. Here is his post again: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-24 Thread Butch Evans
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006, Matt Liotta wrote: Your agree with Larsen for what reason? Did you know that currently five states require PBXs of all varieties to support E911? In fact, only three states specifically state that PBX vendors If you look at what Matt Larsen posted, you will see that (as

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-24 Thread Matt Liotta
beyond making a mistake! - :-) Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 4:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype,Yahoo

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-24 Thread Matt Liotta
On Jun 23, 2006, at 4:28 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Many on this list like to just make things up as opposed to getting an actual legal opinion from a practicing attorney that specializes in this field. I'm not aware of that going on much at all on this list, its just not true. Do you rea

RE: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-23 Thread Mac Dearman
n life - period. Keep in mind they are NOT beyond making a mistake! - :-) Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 4:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] Vo

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-23 Thread Peter R.
Tom, I have to go with Matt on this. I am on a lot of lists, so they get confused, but I have seen way too many people ask for advice on listservs that should have gone to either a CPA, state revenue department, or an attorney. You have no real idea who is replying. He could be giving you adv

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-23 Thread Tom DeReggi
s, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 6:56 AM Subject: Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-23 Thread Matt Liotta
On Jun 23, 2006, at 12:20 AM, Butch Evans wrote: The example Matt listed was a business that purchased a phone system. This phone system happens to be an Asterisk system that has a POTS line terminated in it. Some traffic is routed via VoIP offerings available on the net, while other tra

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-22 Thread Butch Evans
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006, Matt Liotta wrote: That is incorrect. A POTS line will only be able to provide ANI/ALI information as configured by the LEC providing the POTS line, which will not match the subscriber's call that you are routing through it. However, according to what Matt Larsen describ

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype,Yahoo, MS) Tom DeReggi wrote: Why can't I write a script in Linux/Asterix that says, if Source phone number equals my client, and destiantion phone number equalls 911, move this call to POTS Line A, a POTS line with an ar

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-20 Thread Matt Liotta
Tom DeReggi wrote: Why can't I write a script in Linux/Asterix that says, if Source phone number equals my client, and destiantion phone number equalls 911, move this call to POTS Line A, a POTS line with an area code/phone xxx-xxx appropriaite for the region where that customer resides. Sto

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:07 AM Subject: Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS) Tom DeReggi wrote: However, I believe it is allowed, that if at the provider's switch, they intercept 911 calls, and redirect to a pots line connected

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-20 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Horsecrap. All I am selling is the phone system. Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matt Liotta wrote: Anyone who thinks that providing a POTS line along with VoIP service for 911 compliance either has read the order and/or has checked with council. If you provide any VoIP service your VOIP must

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-20 Thread Matt Liotta
Tom DeReggi wrote: However, I believe it is allowed, that if at the provider's switch, they intercept 911 calls, and redirect to a pots line connected to the providers switch, it complies. That is incorrect. What gives you that impression? So if you ahve a local regional switch and terminate

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
Matt, I believe that means that the VOIP line to the customer must be able to dial 911. However, I believe it is allowed, that if at the provider's switch, they intercept 911 calls, and redirect to a pots line connected to the providers switch, it complies. So if you ahve a local regional swit