Re: [WSG] Australian Communications Authority

2004-05-05 Thread Universal Head
Just came across this thread and by coincidence I had been told about the site and tossed off this email to them: --- I thought I would take the time to make you aware of some problems with your website. The site does not communicate to Mac users at all. In Safari 2, the most common MacOSX

RE: [WSG] Australian Communications Authority

2004-05-05 Thread Miles Tillinger
Three cheers for Web Standards evangelism! Kudos for making the effort to spread the gospel, but I don't know if I agree with the approach. Fair enough that you'd like to win the job, but the end of the email starts sounding like marketing spam. A political approach might be more effective

Re: [WSG] Australian Communications Authority (Out of office)

2004-05-05 Thread Leon Wild
Sorry, I'm away Thurs AM for study. I will read your email when I return. For any urgent Intranet queries or assistance please contact Marion Haworth on 02 9230 8542 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many thanks, Leon Wild. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/05/04 18:15 You're right, but in my defense I didn't

Re: [WSG] Australian Communications Authority

2004-05-05 Thread Universal Head
Jeez mate give me a break. Just because every site I've done doesn't get the little W3C gold star doesn't mean I'm not making professional sites. And since I've been making sites since the web started, and designing for years before that, some jobs go back ten years. They were cutting edge enough

Re: [WSG] XHTML considered useful

2004-05-05 Thread Tonico Strasser
Mark Stanton wrote: Well at least someone has found a use for it - http://diveintomark.org/archives/2004/05/02/user-friendly-feeds That's just the beginning ;) XML is by far more powerful than what we see today. The bottleneck is the client software. I'm very anxious to see new technologies like

Re: [WSG] Australian Communications Authority

2004-05-05 Thread Andy Budd
Sorry mate (and the WSG). I was merely giving you my reaction to your post. I was just saying that If I was in the shoes of the person you emailed, my first reaction would be to go and visit your site. On visiting said site I'd think, what a loverly looking flash portfolio with lot's of nice

Re: [WSG] Re: Ten questions for Anne van Kesteren

2004-05-05 Thread Chris Bentley
Tim Lucas wrote: If you don't need to serve valid XML, and you can not systematically serve well formed XML documents, then I recommend sticking with a less strict data format (such as XHTML transitional). XML is a strict data format and, like most, can't reliably be written by hand without

Re: [WSG] Re: Ten questions for Anne van Kesteren

2004-05-05 Thread Patrick Griffiths
I thought XHTML transitional _is_ XML. In what way is XHTML transitional is a less strict data format? It's a transition. It's a half-way house between HTML 4 and XHTML as it is intended (XHTML Strict). Patrick Griffiths (PTG) http://www.htmldog.com/ptg/

Re: [WSG] Re: Ten questions for Anne van Kesteren

2004-05-05 Thread Patrick Griffiths
I thought XHTML transitional _is_ XML. In what way is XHTML transitional is a less strict data format? It's a transition. It's a half-way house between HTML 4 and XHTML as it is intended (XHTML Strict). Patrick Griffiths (PTG) http://www.htmldog.com/ptg/

Re: [WSG] Re: Ten questions for Anne van Kesteren

2004-05-05 Thread Patrick Griffiths
I thought XHTML transitional _is_ XML. In what way is XHTML transitional is a less strict data format? It's a transition. It's a half-way house between HTML 4 and XHTML as it is intended (XHTML Strict). Patrick Griffiths (PTG) http://www.htmldog.com/ptg/

[WSG] Next IE version coming soon?

2004-05-05 Thread Tonico Strasser
http://radio.weblogs.com/0001011/2004/05/04.html#a7387 Robert Scoble writes: While we're on it, this page has one falsehood. It says that the next version of Internet Explorer won't come out until Longhorn. That is absolutely NOT true. The next version of Internet Explorer comes with a ton of

Re: [WSG] Re: Ten questions for Anne van Kesteren

2004-05-05 Thread Chris Bentley
On 05/05/2004, at 10:09 PM, Patrick Griffiths wrote: I thought XHTML transitional _is_ XML. In what way is XHTML transitional is a less strict data format? It's a transition. It's a half-way house between HTML 4 and XHTML as it is intended (XHTML Strict). Are you saying that XHTML transitional is

Re: [WSG] Re: Ten questions for Anne van Kesteren

2004-05-05 Thread Justin French
On 06/05/2004, at 12:03 AM, Chris Bentley wrote: On 05/05/2004, at 10:09 PM, Patrick Griffiths wrote: I thought XHTML transitional _is_ XML. In what way is XHTML transitional is a less strict data format? It's a transition. It's a half-way house between HTML 4 and XHTML as it is intended (XHTML

[WSG] Re: Next IE version coming soon?

2004-05-05 Thread Irapuan Martinez
At 16:02 5/5/2004 +0200, Tonico Strasser wrote: http://radio.weblogs.com/0001011/2004/05/04.html#a7387 Hm, will they make it more standards compliant as well? Will it work in older versions of Windows? Hum, I donĀ“t believe. Presto (Opera) and Gecko (Mozilla) engines pass a profound redesign of

Re: [WSG] Re: Ten questions for Anne van Kesteren

2004-05-05 Thread Patrick Griffiths
I thought XHTML transitional _is_ XML. In what way is XHTML transitional is a less strict data format? It's a transition. It's a half-way house between HTML 4 and XHTML as it is intended (XHTML Strict). Are you saying that XHTML transitional is a less strict data format than XML

[WSG] my List problem again

2004-05-05 Thread Barbara Dozetos
Hi all, Last week several of you chimed in to help me fix an IE weirdness in my nav list on this page: http://www.pcc.com/benchmark/welcome.html The same thing is happening (space between the 'buttons') on this page: http://www.pcc.com/benchmark/financial.html seems that the if/else statements

[WSG] hover in FF

2004-05-05 Thread Barbara Dozetos
While I'm at it, can someone tell me why my a:link:hover rule is working perfectly in IE and not at all in FF? The nav buttons on the left are working, but links in the text and in the top nav are not. www.pcc.com/benchmark/financial.html -- Barbara Dozetos [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] hover in FF

2004-05-05 Thread Jack Kennard
Did you just add a visited state? I like the lay out and it seems to work in Mozilla. Jack Kennard Web Designer Marketing dba/ Web Sailing Designs http://www.websailingdesigns.com 404 459-6621 New Presidential slogan: Avoid the Mud slinging, take a trip. Barbara Dozetos wrote: While I'm at it,

RE: [WSG] hover in FF

2004-05-05 Thread Letsky-Anderson, Christine
Do you have your CSS in order: link, visited, hover, active? Sometimes if they are out of order it causes the problem you described. http://www.456bereastreet.com/lab/developing_with_web_standards/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

[WSG] First Post - Help with Graphic on Home Page

2004-05-05 Thread YoYoEtc
Hello Everyone: This is my first post to this list and I do hope it is not off topic. I am creating a web site and am working on the home page (fairly new web designer, too). Normally, I make the page small so it can be seen by older monitors but this time I wanted to see if I could have it fill

Re: [WSG] hover in FF

2004-05-05 Thread Barbara Dozetos
that's the problem -it's not working once they're visited doh! Jack Kennard wrote: Did you just add a visited state? I like the lay out and it seems to work in Mozilla. Jack Kennard Web Designer Marketing dba/ Web Sailing Designs http://www.websailingdesigns.com 404 459-6621 New Presidential

[WSG] Question on javascript

2004-05-05 Thread Jack Kennard
I notice there are a lot of sites in this group, that are using javascript. Are they mostly for determining browsers and then redirecting, or ? -- Jack Kennard Web Designer Marketing dba/ Web Sailing Designs http://www.websailingdesigns.com 404 459-6621 New Presidential slogan: Avoid the Mud

Re: [WSG] First Post - Help with Graphic on Home Page

2004-05-05 Thread Ryan Christie
I'm not clear to what your problem is from the email? You have 3 graphics (at least the only three that are showing up in FFox + IE6). One is a solid purple column, one is a city and is horizontal, and the other is a purple to white blender for the city bottom edge. In FFox and IE, your

Re: [WSG] Question on javascript

2004-05-05 Thread Ryan Christie
I never got into the idea of redirecting browsers to different pages using JS. Using standards to make web pages renders that practice obsolete for the most part since you get a one page serves all product in the end. If I use JS on any pages it is usually to make remembrance cookies on a

[WSG] print style - reposition a div

2004-05-05 Thread Phillips, Wendy
Not sure how to tackle this ... I have a two column table - in the right hand column is a div. I have a print style sheet and would like this div to position itself at the end of all other content in the print version. Is this possible? Thanks WP Wendy Phillips Job Ready (Learning

Re: [WSG] Question on javascript

2004-05-05 Thread Mark Stanton
I agree with Ryan - coding for specific browsers is a futile excerise. We do use javascript quite a bit but its usually to provide additional funcitonality to users who are able to handle it. The empahsis is on people still being able to use the site without javascript. This could include things

Re: [WSG] First Post - Help with Graphic on Home Page

2004-05-05 Thread YoYoEtc
Yes, I found out what was wrong. I didn't know you had to put the width and height in the cell tag as well as in the img src tag :) Re designing for 800x 600 or 1024x768, I think I will do that. From what I am reading, stretching the city horizontal graphic will degrade the quality and I

Re: [WSG] print style - reposition a div

2004-05-05 Thread Tim Lucas
Phillips, Wendy spoke the following wise words on 6/05/2004 9:17 AM EST: I have a two column table - in the right hand column is a div. I have a print style sheet and would like this div to position itself at the end of all other content in the print version. Is this possible? Ahh now see if

[WSG] Screen Reader resources

2004-05-05 Thread Luke Moulton
Hi people, Can anyone tell me where to find a JAWS style screen reader (without the hefty price tag) for testing purposes. Thanks, Luke * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] First Post - Help with Graphic on Home Page

2004-05-05 Thread Ryan Christie
Re designing for 800x 600 or 1024x768, I think I will do that. From what I am reading, stretching the city horizontal graphic will degrade the quality and I can't take that risk Yes, stretching out the image manually by forcing widthheight properties on the tag itself with distort and

Re: [WSG] First Post - Help with Graphic on Home Page

2004-05-05 Thread YoYoEtc
Thank you for all the good tips!! I am a relative beginner but I love it!! I am just learning CSS, too. At 08:31 PM 5/5/2004, Ryan Christie wrote: Re designing for 800x 600 or 1024x768, I think I will do that. From what I am reading, stretching the city horizontal graphic will degrade the

[WSG] screen reader - links

2004-05-05 Thread Neerav
some useful links re: screen readers http://www.iso.gmu.edu/~swidmaye/portfolio/edit797assistivetech.htm - *An Introduction to Screen Readers* http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_downloads/jaws_form.asp - jaws demo (doesnt expire ?) http://www.netmechanic.com/news/vol4/accessibility_no14.htm -

[WSG] XHTML transitional is a half-way house [WAS] Ten questions for Anne van Kesteren

2004-05-05 Thread Chris Bentley
On 05/05/2004, at 10:09 PM, Patrick Griffiths wrote: I thought XHTML transitional _is_ XML. In what way is XHTML transitional is a less strict data format? It's a transition. It's a half-way house between HTML 4 and XHTML as it is intended (XHTML Strict). No its not. There is no such thing as a

Re: Read: [WSG] screen reader - links

2004-05-05 Thread Neerav
Sorry folks! looks like I forgot to turn off read receipts when I upgraded to Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 . Theyre set to off now. -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy Your message To: WSG Subject: [WSG] screen reader - links Sent:Thu, 6 May 2004

Re: [WSG] XHTML transitional is a half-way house [WAS] Ten questions for Anne van Kesteren

2004-05-05 Thread Noa Groveman
Document Type Definition. It defines what all the tags mean. YoYoEtc wrote: What is DTD? At 09:03 PM 5/5/2004, Chris Bentley wrote: On 05/05/2004, at 10:09 PM, Patrick Griffiths wrote: I thought XHTML transitional _is_ XML. In what way is XHTML transitional is a less strict data format? It's a