I'm curious if and how you are all using the address tag. The HTML 4
spec has this to say:
--
The ADDRESS element may be used by authors to supply contact
information for a document or a major part of a document such as a
form. This element often
From: Nick Lo
I'm curious if and how you are all using the address tag.
[snip]
However, the specs above don't make it fully clear if what
I'm doing is
wrong or right. The phrase to supply contact information for a
document or a major part of a document seems to rule out it's most
Hi!
IMHO the problem is, that the address tag is an inline element. I
would like to use it like this:
address
dl
dtname/dt
ddstreet/dd
ddcity/dd
ddcountry/dd
ddphone/dd
ddemail/dd
W3C validation - pages validate when I run the URL through the validator,
but for some reason my pages and Logo's linking to
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer has stopped working in IE (6.02) -
anyone else seen this, or know of a decent workaround?!?!
It still works in Mozilla and the
Hi Patrick,
On experimenting with it it also appears that address is an inline
element so fails to validate if you put e.g. a dl inside it.
From the XHTML 1.0 Transistional DTD:
!-- information on author --
!ELEMENT address (#PCDATA | %inline; | %misc.inline; | p)*
!ATTLIST address
%attrs;
Hi i am having problems with the positioning of the "Privacy Policy"
div tag element (id="privacy" in CSS) bottom right of the page.
it sits positioned 7px right and 7px bottom if there is no scroller,
but if you make the window small so that you get a scroller, then use
the scroller to scroll
This has been discussed in the legendary SimpleBits:
http://www.simplebits.com/notebook/2004/08/04/sq.html
Quite some discussion...
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:55:45 +1100, Nick Lo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm curious if and how you are all using the address tag. The HTML 4
spec has this to say:
Don't know if anyone's got time to offer me a lil' assistance...? working on
a new project, Funkdub, at the moment.
Would welcome any insight as to why WordPress is screwing up my CSS/XHTML
pages in Mozilla etc: http://www.funkdub.info/wp/
...seems to work fine in IE. Its controled by 2
Hi
Although the file extension reads .php, this is not a PHP question, but
a CSS-P related question.
working.ckimedia.com/index_lay_test.php
I solved the resizing issue, but have run into a centering boggle,
would some knowledgeable soul assist? Also a once over the in-line CSS
for efficiency
From: Sam Hutchinson
W3C validation - pages validate when I run the URL through
the validator,
but for some reason my pages and Logo's linking to
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer has stopped working
in IE (6.02) -
anyone else seen this, or know of a decent workaround?!?!
I'll
From: Nick Lo
On experimenting with it it also appears that address is an inline
element so fails to validate if you put e.g. a dl inside it.
Oops...I only tried it locally, and trusted the firefox Tidy extension
to flag this up...but it didn't. Ho hum, you're right...this only
strengthens
I have IE 6.02 too, but still SP 1 and all is ok!
greetings,
johannes
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 2:42 PM
Subject: RE: [WSG] W3C REFERER FIX?
From: Sam Hutchinson
W3C validation - pages validate
Nope. Checked with the host and all is well there. Any additional
thoughts?
~john
_
Dr. Zeus Web Development
http://www.DrZeus.net
content without clutter
on 11/28/2004 12:06 AM Kay Smoljak said the following:
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:19:24 +, john [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I will be out of the office beginning Friday, November 19 and will return on
Tuesday, November 30.
Please contact Dessica Love (ext.399) or Tanya Washington (ext.240) if you need
LMS assistance before my return.
Sincerely,
Ward Scott
Manager, Instructional Development
Gulf Coast Regional
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
This will do:
/div
br style=clear: both /
!-- End Menu --/div
That is: you need a clearer at the bottom to make Moz expand the
container and its background.
You can do it without any additional mark-up. See:
http://positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html
that's certainly done the trick.
many many thanks.
fixing the overriding footers now is the issue ~ so it doesn't kill the
footer text into pinpoint size, again, looks dandy in ie, but moz is killing
it
ps, if your into music your more than welcome to join the site.
i'm planning on running a
yeah it works on my slave machine running sp1, but I tend not to have that
connected, as it will just get eaten by the web (yours is still alive?). it
looks like it is a sp2 IE thing stripping the headers out. amongst other
things. this in itself is an example of a browser/OS affecting
From: Sam Hutchinson
this in itself is an example of a browser/OS affecting
accessibility.
Actually, it's a good example of something else: don't rely on any
outside data that's not under your direct control. Having a system
that purely relies on referers, and breaks down when they're not
so I shouldn't use the W3C referer code to check my website validity?
should I be using individual URL strings to validate?
What about my dynamically created pages? I don't want to edit each
individual page in my site just to add a validity link checker?
Again, the best way is to use a
Someone can told me why using charset if we have to write in our page this
kind of code #233; for the accent ? I understand that the charset give
the opportunity depend the langage browser to display page correctly but
It doesn't give the server the opportunity to display the page the right
Sam Hutchinson wrote:
yeah it works on my slave machine running sp1, but I tend not to have that
connected, as it will just get eaten by the web (yours is still alive?).
Besides avoiding using IE, having a good firewall helps. Personally,
I've been happy with Sygate.
At the risk of, once again, going off topic (which this whole thread
probably already is)...
From: Sam Hutchinson
Anyone out there doing this? I'd like to have a look at the
code in order to
implement it.
To use PHP as an example
a href=http://validator.w3.org/check?amp;uri=?php echo
Hi Berry,
Here is an example of a UTF-8 page with non-escaped French characters:
http://xstandard.com/page.asp?p=18BF64A8-DF0A-473E-8402-50E9E917E0C1
Are you able to see them in your browser?
Regards,
-Vlad
http://xstandard.com
Standards-compliant XHTML WYSIWYG editor
- Original Message
Peter Firminger wrote:
Definition lists are entirely appropriate for any name/value set and are quite different to other (ordered and unordered) lists. A div is far less semantically appropriate IMHO.
I tend to agree, though sometimes it seems like lists are becoming the
new tables.
Before a
Yes I am able to see it in my browser maybe the server is set to render
the accent, if not how come I am not able to see the same thing with my page?
I would be surprise, if we have to use XHTML to have accent ?
My Page use HTML4.1 strict.
Thanks in advance
Berry
Hi Berry,
Here is an
Best Wishes,
Which is why I think that
dd class=datedate/dd
would be better.
Now, for example, you can have the date before the name while keeping
it following the name in the source.
As I started this thread I'm unsure how or why this is necessary, would
you elaborate? Please reply off
Hello all,
No one should ever have to ask these sorts of questions..but due to the
pantsness of IE i have no choice
http://dontcom.com
You may notice that the right nav drops down to the bottom of the
document in IE. I've been looking at the CSS for WAY too long so its
all starting to
I hope this isn't too off topic.
I looked at the main web site to see if there was a way to contact members. I
was interested in getting some information from people in different countries
about the standards environment where they live. I found that there were four
people on the list from
Peter Firminger wrote:
ddemdate/em/dd
Mordechai Peller said:
Which is why I think that
dd class=datedate/dd
would be better.
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:49:53 -0800, Chris Kennon wrote:
As I started this thread I'm unsure how or why this is necessary,
would you elaborate?
Mordechai
Lea de Groot wrote:
Mordechai (if I can presume to speak for him!) is suggesting that
putting an em tag entirely around a block level element (the dd) is not
very semantic and a class on the containing dd is more so.
I'm inclined to agree.
While
divlorem ipsum dolor emsit amet/em consectetur/div
Hi
D*** you guys are good. When I grow up, I'm 38, I want to be just like
you ;) Thanks, I understand.
On Monday, November 29, 2004, at 01:15 PM, Lea de Groot wrote:
Peter Firminger wrote:
ddemdate/em/dd
Mordechai Peller said:
Which is why I think that
dd class=datedate/dd
would be better.
On
Two Times, one for you.
D*** you guys are good. When I grow up, I'm 38, I want to be just like
you ;) Thanks, I understand. So the following is semantic nirvana?
dl id=news
dtArticle Title/dt
dd class=date28November2004/dd
dd id=article
pullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea
I think div class=something to add emphasis is incorrect. The div
is in fact the redundant element in the given example.
We may as well do p class=header.
I do feel slightly unsettled using dl as a catch-all for anything
vaguely resembling a key value pair, but can't really articulate that in
Hi Darren
Your #container margin-right is -250 but this doesn't allow enough for
the width and padding of your #sidebar (200px + 40px). With a
margin-right of -250px you will only be able to have padding of 12px on
each side of the sidebar. Increasing the margin-right to -280px will
solve the
Well,
Should I use in-line xml and change the dtd? Or is this fast becoming
an RSS issue?
example:
news
headLine lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetu/headLine
byLineSam I Am/byLine
date76Juvember2207/date
article
Of course what I've written sounds daft (did I get enough sleep last
night?) - You have to consider the padding in the #content div as well.
The combined width of the #content and #sidebar padding, plus the width
of the #sidebar must be less than the margin allowed.
Cheers
Peter
---
Hi,
I would solve it like this, see:
http://cb2web.com/tests/dontcom/
Briefly, wrapped both content and sidebar divs with something like
#col {
margin:0;
padding:0;
}
... moved the container div up and, I think this was the most important,
changed the order of the sidebar and content divs.
On 29 nov 2004, at 22.58, Terrence Wood wrote:
While we can argue that the date, author and article name may well be
a list of meta-data for a news article the content is not... the
article is the data. I think the concept of a news article is a well
established one that doesn't need to be
Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
Another interpretation (that I assumed when I first read M's post) is
that
it seems contrary to semantics to have date emphasised. If the em is only
used for visual styling, it should be replaced by pure styling markup
(such
as adding a class instead).
If something truly
Terrence Wood wrote:
I do feel slightly unsettled using dl as a catch-all for anything
vaguely resembling a key value pair, but can't really articulate that
in an intelligent manner it just feels wrong somehow.
My thoughts exactly. Here's the way I'm starting to think about it though:
I
Chris Kennon wrote:
Should I use in-line xml and change the dtd? Or is this fast becoming
an RSS issue?
OK, RSS is also a standard, so it's still on topic.
Now let's say that you use XSLT to transform it into XHTML: What mark-up
should you use? This question basically brings us back to where
What is the section tag? How would it be used?
Ted
You said:
In summary,
It seems to me that dldtdd is unnecessary and a poor substitute
for XHTML 2.0's section tag. In the meantime I'd probably use div
class=section and nest it deeply.
Anyway, that's my thought process.
.Matthew
Hi,
yeah it works on my slave machine running sp1, but I tend not
to have that
connected, as it will just get eaten by the web (yours is
still alive?). it
The web never ate my machine pre SP2. Maybe I am more careful about where I
browse.
looks like it is a sp2 IE thing stripping the
yes, it is appropriate for a list of articles (but again, not the
article itself)... I think we're in agreement on that.
Terrence Wood.
On 2004-11-30 11:34 AM, Roger Johansson wrote:
On 29 nov 2004, at 22.58, Terrence Wood wrote:
While we can argue that the date, author and article name may well
Hi All - I've actually come across this before as well.
But for my machine, this error only happens when trying to validate pages
sitting on my hard-drive.
The link is for the form that checks online pages. Upload your page to a
server and try again :o)
You can get heaps of bookmarklets that
Ted Drake wrote:
What is the section tag? How would it be used?
See this intro to XHTML2,
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/web/library/wa-xhtml/
In part it means you don't need h1 h2 h3 anymore, you just have
h and you derive the heading level by the number of sections it's
within. It
Hi,
So I should simply use the traditional
hnblah/hn
pblah/p
mark-up for my purposes?
On Monday, November 29, 2004, at 03:03 PM, Terrence Wood wrote:
yes, it is appropriate for a list of articles (but again, not the
article itself)... I think we're in agreement on that.
Terrence Wood.
On
G'day
So I should simply use the traditional
hnblah/hn
pblah/p
mark-up for my purposes?
To my thinking, if there's a collection (list) of articles, each with a
caption or title and a summary paragraph, using a (definition) list
makes sense, as it allows you to group related items (a bunch of
Hi,
Is a list with one item really a list?
Yes absolutely. If there is one person in a room and you are asked to list
the names of the people in the room then the list will have one name.
P
**
The discussion list for
Bert Doorn wrote:
To my thinking, if there's a collection (list) of articles, each with a
caption or title and a summary paragraph, using a (definition) list
makes sense, as it allows you to group related items (a bunch of news
items).
Well visually they're the same. So we are just talking about
Hi,
Difficult as it is to believe, this is not a troll. I left the web industry
a few years ago and only started getting back into it now. When I left, IE 5
had just been released and Netscape was starting to get into trouble. Now,
it's IE 6 which is looking more and more like the dinosaur, if
G'day again
Peter
Yes absolutely. If there is one person in a room and you
are asked to list the names of the people in the room then
the list will have one name.
Just to clarify my point. I did not mean to ask whether it is possible to
call a list of one item a list. More a question of
Now, I agree completely about the security risks. That alone is worth
dumping the browser for. Yet, I want to find out how exactly is IE falling
short of the DOM specs for e.g. Apart from some pet complaints about PNG
support, div border width calculation and default styles (which actually is
Bert Doorn wrote:
Just to clarify my point. I did not mean to ask whether it is possible to
call a list of one item a list. More a question of why would you call it a
list and in HTML terms, why use the extra element. If we take this
further, we might as well make every section in a html
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:14:20 +1300, Matthew wrote:
What you say as makes sense is not expressed in the W3C standards,
and the W3C haven't (to my knowledge) corrected anyone.
I'm not sure that we should use the information that 'the W3C hasn't
corrected anyone on this' as confirming evidence -
Peter Firminger wrote:
Is a list with one item really a list?
Yes absolutely. If there is one person in a room and you are asked to list
the names of the people in the room then the list will have one name.
Your example work because there's an unknown number. In cases where
there's only
kkk!! Are you saying that expressions in CSS don't work with IE6
SP2??? And, What does H.S. mean?
(no punctuation was seriously hurt in the creation ofthis email =) )
Terrence Wood.
On 2004-11-30 3:49 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
Personally, I'd like to see max/min width/height
Hi, this is the first time here so I hope i do thinks right. I have as
part of a student group written a website for the school i work at. I'm
using IE6 and the site displays images in 800 by 600 fine but in 1024 by
768 the image displays a bit to the left until i hit refresh and then its
alright.
Lea de Groot wrote:
I'm not sure that we should use the information that 'the W3C hasn't
corrected anyone on this' as confirming evidence - to my knowledge they
have never corrected anyone on anything.
True, they don't usually name names. They have to be diplomatic but
they
WSG Sydney is holding our end of year drinks, and have decided to combine it
with a Firefox birthday bash.
What: WSG end of year drinks and Firefox birthday bash
Where: Opera Bar
http://www.operabar.com.au/htmlfiles/index.html
When: Friday 10 December
Time: 6.30pm
Cost: free, pay for your own
On 11/29/04 12:15 PM Ted Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this
out:
I looked at the main web site to see if there was a way to contact members. I
was interested in getting some information from people in different countries
about the standards environment where they live. I found that there were
Terrence Wood wrote:
kkk!! Are you saying that expressions in CSS don't work with IE6
SP2??? And, What does H.S. mean?
Reports indicate that IE-expressions on my pages fall short in IE6, 5.5,
5.0 in XP-SP2 with High Security setting. H.S. = High Security.
I can't test this, as I don't
Hi everyone,
I am new to XHTML/CSS, and I am just working on my first layout, I
need some advice regarding a couple of things, I wondered if anyone
can help. I am sure that these are very simple things that have been
covered before, but I just need pointing in the right direction.
The layout
Sorry,
Here is the screen shot of IE Mac:
http://220.233.11.63/Misc/dev/Mac-IE-screenshot.gif
You can view all of the files here:
http://220.233.11.63/Misc/dev/
Cheers,
Matt
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:05:49 +1100, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi everyone,
I am new to XHTML/CSS, and I am
That was the case but I use Firefox (and Safari) with no problems with
my bank here in Australia (Westpac)
Regards PAUL ROSS
SkyRocket Design Co http://www.skyrocket.com.au
Just to add on, I'd been using Firefox since 6 months ago and it's my
primary browser for everything except internet
BTW to add to Paul, I've found that Commonwealth Bank, ING Direct, and
Members Equity's netbank services all work fine in Firefox
Neerav
Paul Ross wrote:
That was the case but I use Firefox (and Safari) with no problems with
my bank here in Australia (Westpac)
Regards PAUL ROSS
SkyRocket Design
Hi,
Got a question about W3C recommendations and drafts. Let's say I'm reading
the recommendations for DOM Core Level 1 and 2. Does Level 2 cover Level 1
and its own additions or does it say we only cover the new stuff and
whatever we specifically override in Level 1?
RTFM Disclaimer: I have
G'day
Got a question about W3C recommendations and drafts. Let's say I'm
reading the recommendations for DOM Core Level 1 and 2. Does Level 2
cover Level 1 and its own additions or does it say we only cover
the new stuff and whatever we specifically override in Level 1?
From
Finaly I have the answer !
I understand that it is not the uft-8 wich give the ability to render the
accent on the screen but the language content. meta
http-equiv=Content-Language content=fr
which tell the agent to render the accent using the UFT-8
Then Why the validator gives an error for
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