Lachlan,I'm going to take your much appreciated response one bit at a time.By doing as you suggested, I lose the point of having used the JS in the first place.(For the purposes of this discussion, let's assume that having the copyright notices reflect the current year is a desired thing).With the
I suppose you mean PHP or ASP or similar?
If so, wouldn't this be taking things to an extreme just to do a
simple copyright that is already handled so well with this little JS?
Bob
Javascript is for behaviour, not content (or structure, really).
Therefore, if you want to dynamically change
Bob Schwartz wrote:
This one all alone on the page, with no linked JS in the head:
div id=copy
script type=text/javascript
...
document.write(copy; +yr);
/scriptnbsp;Cedar Tree Books
/div
p id=copy© 2005 Cedar Tree Books/p
No script (or entity reference) required.
I'm going to take your
I made the comparison to the construction industry because:
1. we are both in the business of building things
and
2. the standards used benefit the end user.
A 'brickie' lays bricks in one of a number of standard methods using standard materials. The benefit of this is that the house
Bob,
on Tuesday, December 6, 2005 at 18:57 wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote:
These connected to a linked JS in the head:
1. a href=http://www.fotografics.it; onclick=popUp
(this.href,'elastic',500,650);return false;nbsp;powered by:
FotoGrafics/a
a href=http://www.fotografics.it;
Martin Heiden wrote:
Do it on the serverside!!!
Maybe I'm a cycle head, but it seems silly to use computation cycles
(although very little) to compute a year that changes only once per
year. Use a server side include or hard code it in your footer template
and remember to change it in the
Hi Chris,
As JavaScript isn't a precompiled language (rather a scripting one),
functions, objects and variables are processed one after another,
following the source order. When you declare your variables, the browser
is not yet aware of the existence of the two requested elements. You
have
Dear colleagues,
Forgive my labouring the point, but after our discussions I have done
what Gunlaug did, i.e., made a page as xhtml, with the headers as below:
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;
html lang=en
It looks ok. It is validated.
2005/12/7, designer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Dear colleagues,
Forgive my labouring the point, but after our discussions I have done
what Gunlaug did, i.e., made a page as xhtml, with the headers as below:
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN
designer wrote:
Forgive my labouring the point, but after our discussions I have done
what Gunlaug did, i.e., made a page as xhtml, with the headers as below:
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;
html lang=en
Looks fine in Mac Firefox 1.5 and Safari 2.02.
Best regards,
Marilyn Langfeld
Langfeldesigns
http://www.langfeldesigns.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Dec 7, 2005, at 8:13 AM, designer wrote:
Dear colleagues,
Forgive my labouring the point, but after our discussions I have
done what Gunlaug
I was being specific and not defining the situation well, my bad. In
the UK it is against the law to provide an inaccessible service.
Therefore ONLY in the field of Accessibility, it is within the rights of
any disabled person to demand that any UK site should be accessible. In
practice, it
Peter J. Farrell wrote:
Martin Heiden wrote:
Do it on the serverside!!!
Maybe I'm a cycle head, but it seems silly to use computation cycles
(although very little) to compute a year that changes only once per
year. Use a server side include or hard code it in your footer
template and
I'm no Lawyer but what are the legal ramifications of a user having the
wrong year set on the client. If the client's clock were set to 1900
then wouldn't the Copyright notice then be invalid?
That is one of the ramifications of not Using PHP or ASP.
Stephen
Bob Schwartz wrote:
Lachlan,
Yes, the key to this argument/discussion is whether your site offers a service to the general public. As suggested earlier we cant expect someone hosting his/her home page on Geocities to follow web standards, but anyone offering services online bears a moral responsibility to make those
Designer wrote:
Dear colleagues,
Forgive my labouring the point, but after our discussions I have done
what Gunlaug did, i.e., made a page as xhtml, with the headers as below:
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;
html
On 12/7/05, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you choose to do content negotiation and serve application/xhtml+xml
to browsers that support it and text/html to those that don't, be aware
that it prevents incremental rendering in Mozilla.
So is the best thing to target xhtml browsers?
Mac report:
Worked fine in Safari v1 - bottom margin of about 1.5em, same as top
Worked okay in IE v5.2 - the bottom margin was extended 10em approx.
Worked fine in Opera v8.51 - bottom margin approx 3em
Personally I'd ignore the margin difference but I thought I'd mention it in
case it
Lachlan Hunt wrote:
You may as well just use valid HTML 4.01 Strict. See XHTML is not
for Beginners, the MIME type issue is just one of the many reasons.
http://lachy.id.au/log/2005/12/xhtml-beginners
(yes, I'm aware of the irony that the article itself is XHTML as
text/html, but that's the
Christian Montoya wrote:
doesn't work! You are all viewing text/html. Pretty soon everyone on
this list will think they are serving xhtml.
Yes, and a large percentage of them will serve complete garbage :-)
I'll get it started right:
DID NOT work in every single browser. Version 0.1 to
Peter,
on Wednesday, December 7, 2005 at 12:31 wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote:
Martin Heiden wrote:
Do it on the serverside!!!
Maybe I'm a cycle head, but it seems silly to use computation cycles
(although very little) to compute a year that changes only once per
year. Use a server
Sorry, just the map you used. My comment was meant light-heartedly.
Your location map looks very like the one that can be got from
http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/. As these are crown
copyright, I assume that you haven't got an agreement with them to use
their data unattributed.
Martin Heiden wrote:
Peter,
on Wednesday, December 7, 2005 at 12:31 wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote:
Maybe I'm a cycle head, but it seems silly to use computation cycles
(although very little) to compute a year that changes only once per
year. Use a server side include or hard
Bert wrote:When it comes to search engines, can anyone prove that lean codeis better? Has anyone done research on this claim? Google is fullof tagsoup sites that are highly ranked.I searched for web design in Google (pages from Australia
only). The top 3 (non sponsored) sites used tables for
Hi folks
I have a site design which I am working on coding up and at
the moment it appears to be IE5.2.3 on OSX that is causing me problems. Safari
seems okay so far!
I have a right hand login box box which has a top and a
middle section. The div I am looking at is :
Hey, I'm trying to build a daily schedule view which will have
schedules from 6am - 10pm.
I'm not sure if this is the correct approach so I'm asking for help...
I was thinking of using a table with 3 columns, 1 column for the name,
1 column for job title and 1 column for their daily schedule. I
Hi Greg,
Although it's an interesting thing you're trying to do. I think it's a
bit hacky. While it's seem table-like it's actually a graph and I'd
probably consider a few other options.
1. do the third column with images
2. do the entire graph as one big image
or
3. use SVG
If you still think
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
Lachlan Hunt wrote:
http://lachy.id.au/log/2005/12/xhtml-beginners
I am prohibited from getting comments through to that article.
That's weird, if you contact me off list and let me know what error you
received I might be able to do something about it. If you send me
Hi guys, I hate to bother all you guys with this, but I Cant Fix it!!!
On this address: http://www.addictivemedia.com.mx/limpeq/
I need to display the quienes somos and Nuestros clientes divs right below
the photo and bienvenidos section. I already clear them both, clear them right,
left, and it
G'day
On this address: http://www.addictivemedia.com.mx/limpeq/
I need to display the quienes somos and Nuestros clientes divs right below
the photo and bienvenidos section. I already clear them both, clear them right,
left, and it doesnt do it...
I've done a quick test in Firefox (with the
I was reading Matt's WordPress blog and noticed at the bottom of the
page he has an up arrow so you can click to go up, so I tried peeking at
his css with the Web Developer Toolbar so I could see how he did it.
But, something else caught my attention. I noticed in his other.css file
that he
Artemis wrote:
If anyone knows anything about this htc file, if it would be good to
use, how exactly it works, and where I might find a bit more
information about it I would be ever so appreciative :)
http://webfx.eae.net/dhtml/pngbehavior/pngbehavior.html
.Matthew Cruickshank
Hi all
I have someone who is looking for a commerce site (in Australia) to sell
their products from. They obviously would like a simple shopping cart, and
do not have too many products. It's not something I've learnt how to do,
and they are looking for someone closer to them and wanted some
Hi all
Just wondering if there is an altenative to textarea wrap=soft (for
e.g.) that validates.
I have come across the following:
textarea { overflow: auto; }
but there appear to be some problems with it.
Any other suggestions appreciated.
Thanks
Sarah
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email: [EMAIL
Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote:
Just wondering if there is an altenative to textarea wrap=soft (for
e.g.) that validates.
Just wondering why you need it. In which non-obsolete browser does the
value soft have any effect upon rendering or submission?
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http://lachy.id.au/
I'm modifying some of the Zen Cart code to ensure validation.
The FF Tidy plugin gives a warning on the wrap attribute, and I'm hoping
to do a find and replace to fix it.
Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote:
Just wondering if there is an altenative to textarea wrap=soft
(for
e.g.) that validates.
Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote:
Lachlan Hunt wrote:
Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote:
Just wondering if there is an altenative to textarea wrap=soft (for
e.g.) that validates.
Just wondering why you need it. In which non-obsolete browser does the
value soft have any effect upon rendering or submission?
G'day
The FF Tidy plugin gives a warning on the wrap attribute, and I'm hoping
to do a find and replace to fix it.
Does that (proprietary) attribute actually do anything in any
browser? The only values I have seen mentioned for it are off,
Virtual and physical - I've not seen soft
I was just thinking about that and I don't think google.com (or for that
matter - anything that company creates) would manage to get more than 1
star.
On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 12:00 +1100, Peter Williams wrote:
From: Herrod, Lisa
Who really pays attention to the badges?
Are the badges
On 12/7/05, Alan Trick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was just thinking about that and I don't think google.com (or for that
matter - anything that company creates) would manage to get more than 1
star.
You just now realized that Google doesn't care at all about standards
compliance??? I think
Trolling?
:)
Tip:(unrelated to this dead thread)
I found this good reference: a list of commonly confused HTML special characters
http://www.cs.sfu.ca/~ggbaker/reference/characters/#single
Paul
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan
G'day
Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote:
Hi Bert
So remove *wrap=soft* entirely?
Yep - I agree with Lachlan (for a change :-)
Soft is the default value, so it's completely unnecessary.
Remove it.
Regards
--
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http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/
Fast-loading,
One way around this is to use button type=submit instead of input type=submitThe button tag offers far more opportunity to style than input, and allows you to include an image inside a button tag.
The buttons look the same in all modern browsers regadless of OS.Did a little experimenting here:
I find it hard to believe but it looks like it's using an image file to draw
the button?!?!
I'v enever noticed this before. Perhaps I've never had buttons that long.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Tim Burgan
Sent: Thursday, 8 December
Hi Nick,
Does button type=submit still submit a form by default, or does it
require javascript to do so?
If it doesn't require javascript.. why doesn't everyone use button
type=submit?
Tim
Nick Cowie wrote:
One way around this is to use button type=submit instead of input
type=submit
Hi everyone, I'm having problems with IE adding a margin to images. As is always the case, it displays fine in Firefox / Safari etc. The footer at the bottom should have rounded corners which have been created by putting the images in the cell left + right, and having the center part as a
G'day Julia,
Firefox is actually not displaying properly either. Your text is quite
small on the page, so if you hit Control and the plus key a few times to
enlarge it you'll see what happens to your footer area.
I also note you have two doctypes in your code. One for xhtml and one
for
Best would be to rewrite the code at least in the footer, too many
nested tables.
For a quick fix - add hspace=0 to the corner images.
Alex
On 12/8/05, Julia Birks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm having problems with IE adding a margin to images. As is always the
case, it displays
Thanx for your response Bert,
My problem is this: If I display the page on 800*600 it would look
correct, the thing is when I use a higher resolution as 1024*786 or
bigger... the quienes somos text would move right below the bienvenidos
section, I need that the twocols items display on the same
Tim askedDoes button type=submit still submit a form by default, or does it
require _javascript_ to do so?button type=submit = input type=submit but don't take my word for it, do what I did when I found out about the button element, go visit the W3c
Thanks Nick,
Nick Cowie wrote:
The button element is the new kid on the block it was only
introduced in 1997 with HTML 4.0
http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-html40-970708/interact/forms.html#edef-BUTTON
input has be around a lot longer.
http://nickcowie.com
No kidding!
RIP:
Single sane reason: Well now, I suppose they're not trying to get
themselves indexed by a search engine, are they? ;-)
josh
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http://www.joahua.com/
+61 (0) 425 808 469
On 12/8/05, Lea de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 08/12/2005, at 12:54 PM, Paul Bennett wrote:
Lea de Groot wrote:
On 08/12/2005, at 12:54 PM, Paul Bennett wrote:
Trolling?
Well, it isn't the first thing that occurred to me!
I've often wondered why it is that Google doesn't validate.
I mean its not as if they were just a couple of errors, and we could
all just shake it off - they
On 08/12/2005, at 12:54 PM, Paul Bennett wrote:
Trolling?
Well, it isn't the first thing that occurred to me!
I've often wondered why it is that Google doesn't validate.
I mean its not as if they were just a couple of errors, and we could
all just shake it off - they are no where near
Dunno, doesn't it give you any feedback?
By the way, the page isn't valid according to w3c validator either.
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A//mouseriders.dk/check.php
On 12/8/05, Kim Kruse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I thought I've done everything correct with my forms...
Hi,
I thought I've done everything correct with my forms... but no.
So now I'm trying to figure out why Cynthia/WEBXACT fails my form pages.
I just don't understand what it is I'm supposed to do with these forms.
So if someone would tell me what it is I need to do to make cynthia
happy and
label for=NavnFor og efternavnspan class=required*/spanbr
input name=navn value= type=text
/label
You're using the name attribute, which isn't valid, and some of your
for values have the first letter capitalised, whilst the respective
input name does not. The
On 12/8/05, Joshua Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Single sane reason: Well now, I suppose they're not trying to get
themselves indexed by a search engine, are they? ;-)
josh
Good answer. Maybe also:
- they aren't making a browser
- they use lots of javascript
- they don't care
Maybe the
Well, you fixed another problem that I had... :-)
But I still having the problem...
The thing is this...
The Bienvenidos text and the photo are in one line,
The next line are quienes somos and nuestros clients (This two should be
displayed in the same line, without being one higher than the other)
Thanks you very much for helping me out. I've corrected the errors and
everything is fine now.
Kim
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G'day
Well, it isn't the first thing that occurred to me!
I've often wondered why it is that Google doesn't validate.
I never looked at it closely, but you're right - it's tagsoup,
tables for layout and deprecated elements and attributes galore
(font, center anyone?). No DTD either.
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