Re: [WSG] accessible calendars? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2007-10-27 Thread Rob Mason
Smashing Magazine have done an article on loads of different types. Most should be easy to make accessible: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/10/23/online-calendars-and-date-pickers/ Rob -- Rob Mason t/a Sponge Project www.spongeproject.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] Re: Alt text for purely aesthetic images

2007-10-27 Thread Ben Buchanan
I have two questions regarding images added via CSS. 1) I added an image for each bullet via CSS .box ul li. How do I specify alt text in this situation? Do I add alt text in the HTML...even though there would be no image if CSS was disabled? Since it adds no meaning/information, it doesn't

[WSG] Fwd: WSG Digest

2007-10-27 Thread Simon Cockayne
Hi James, Ok, that's good statement. I like it. Aesthetic goes in CSS and therefore no need for ALT text. Cheers, P.s. My wife was flattered by your compliment. :-) * From: James Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 26 Oct

[WSG] Accessibility awareness vs site's cleanliness

2007-10-27 Thread Simon Cockayne
Hi, So...again with reference to http://phd.london.edu/ygrushkacockayne/ I am on track to add the WCAG conformance logo: http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG1-Conformance.html and the XHTML compliance could also be added (and CSS I suppose)... However, my client (my wife) is none too happy about me adding

Re: [WSG] Accessibility awareness vs site's cleanliness

2007-10-27 Thread Olly Hodgson
On 10/27/07, Simon Cockayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So...how can I spread the good word of valid CSS, XHTML and WCAG...without spoiling the site with verbose text or logos? To be honest, I wouldn't bother. If the client doesn't want it, and it's not adding anything to the site, why are you

Re: [WSG] Accessibility awareness vs site's cleanliness

2007-10-27 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Simon Cockayne wrote: However, my client (my wife) is none too happy about me adding the logo(s)...as she believes that will spoil the clean feel of the site. And I'd say he's right. To the end user of the site, it's completely irrelevant. So...how can I spread the good word of valid CSS,

Re: [WSG] Re: Alt text for purely aesthetic images

2007-10-27 Thread Melissa Forrest
There is really no hard and fast rule that states all presentational images should be background images, there are plenty of situations where is is not practical or inappropriate, as others have stated if an images is purely for presentation than an empty alt attribute (alt=) is appropriate. Not

Re: [WSG] WCAG conformance and checking

2007-10-27 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Dave Woods wrote: http://chrispederick.com/work/web-developer/ A bit old now, but could still be of some use... http://www.webaim.org/articles/evaluatingwithfirefox/ -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned.

[WSG] skip to content: care of accessibility causing usability

2007-10-27 Thread Tee G. Peng
I am having an issue and I can't seem to see the whole picture objectively. Thanks to your influences, it has become my second nature to have 'skip to content' in every site I do (sites I have control over the design and layout); when I do markup coding, clients often ignore the 'skip

Re: [WSG] skip to content: care of accessibility causing usability

2007-10-27 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Oct 28, 2007, at 11:44 AM, Tee G. Peng wrote: ... so I came out with this technique: teesworks.com/ (move your mouse to the top to see the result). Haven't show it to client yet. Been working on this site in the last 2 days, I find that I am getting so annoyed by the surprise'

Re: [WSG] skip to content: care of accessibility causing usability

2007-10-27 Thread John Faulds
Been working on this site in the last 2 days, I find that I am getting so annoyed by the surprise' everytime the hover pops up. There is no way to miss it everytime I move the cursor to the top. Leaving aside considerations as to whether you should actually be bothering after the client

Re: [WSG] skip to content: care of accessibility causing usability

2007-10-27 Thread Tim Offenstein
At 7:44 PM -0700 10/27/07, Tee G. Peng wrote: I am having an issue and I can't seem to see the whole picture objectively. Thanks to your influences, it has become my second nature to have 'skip to content' in every site I do (sites I have control over the design and layout); when I do markup

Re: [WSG] Leopard mail and standards

2007-10-27 Thread Al Sparber
From: Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/22/07, Al Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Breton Slivka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you tried outlook 2007 Lately? the way it reads/displays html has been THE issue ever since it was released. No. I'd assumed it displayed the same as OE6 or

Re: [WSG] skip to content: care of accessibility causing usability

2007-10-27 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Tee G. Peng wrote: teesworks.com/ Been working on this site in the last 2 days, I find that I am getting so annoyed by the surprise' everytime the hover pops up. If I, the site builder, find it annoying, what will the users find ? As a user I find that kind of visual flicker highly